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So, after following this forum on and off over the past few months, I finally decided to root my Rogers Dream.
I was one of the first customers to receive a phone with SPL 1.33.0010, as mine was shipped to me directly from rogers as a hardware upgrade. Because of this, rooting was a little more difficult for me than I had initially anticipated, however, after having found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558301), I was able to downgrade to SPL 1.33.2005.
From this point, I started following the instructions found here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod. I was able to re-flash the downgraded OS, and rebooted to a T-mobile G1 splash screen. After going through the various steps, I got stuck where it said to reboot into recovery mode. I held down the home key while powering up, as instructed, but instead of booting to the recovery screen, I was greeted with an image of an exclamation point inside a triangle, hovering over a cartoon of a G1.
I was able to reboot using the 3 fingered salute (send-menu-power), but I was unable to load the recovery screen. I then attempted to bring up the boot loader by holding down the camera button while powering on. The screen I was greeted with did not resemble the boot loader I was used to seeing. It is composed of four horizontal coloured bars, and lists the phone information as follows:
DREA210 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
I'm looking for suggestions on how I should proceed from here. Any help would be most appreciated. Although the phone does make phone calls, and will send and receive text messages, it will not send or receive data, unless connected to wifi.
Thanks,
Grant
So I'm a little rusty but let me give it a shot. While holding home + power it may seem to just get stuck after a minute, but have you tried pressing alt + L ? This makes the recovery text visable (if it's not by default).
hope this helps..
Looks like you've ended up on the stock g1 bootloader.. did you flash the rc29 DREAIMG?
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Looks like you've ended up on the stock g1 bootloader.. did you flash the rc29 DREAIMG?
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Yes. The phone thinks it's a T-mobile G1, but it still works with my Rogers SIM.
sonikamd said:
So I'm a little rusty but let me give it a shot. While holding home + power it may seem to just get stuck after a minute, but have you tried pressing alt + L ? This makes the recovery text visable (if it's not by default).
hope this helps..
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I did this, and the recovery text did indeed become visible, however, I now have a new problem.
I hit Alt+W as per the instructions in the wiki, and it reset the phone. I then hit Alt+A, and nothing happens.
This is the text I see on the screen when I'm in recovery mode:
Androind system recovery utility
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/com
mand
Home+Back - reboot system now
Alt+L - toggle log text display
Alt+S - apply sdcard:update.zip
Alt+W - wipe data/factory reset
After attempting Alt+A, I hit Alt+S, just to see what would happen. Of course, it tried to update from package, but returned an error because there is no "update.zip" on the phone. I'm tempted to rename "update-cm-4.2.5-signed.zip" as "update.zip", just to see what happens. I'll post again once I've done this, but any suggestions from more experienced people would be most appreciated.
Grant
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
Alright, so I renamed "update-cm-4.2.5-signed.zip" as "update.zip", and it aborted the installation because there was no signature. I did the same thing with "signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip", with the same result.
It sounds like you still have the stock recovery image
jackslim said:
It sounds like you still have the stock recovery image
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When you say stock recovery image, are you referring to the one I have installed on the phone already, or the one I'm trying to install with no success?
The image currently on the phone is the DREAIMG.nbh (rc29), which I downloaded via the wiki. The images I am trying to load also came from links in the wiki.
By recovery I'm refering to what you access when you boot with home + power where you can apply your updates (where you're seeing your triangle & exclamation point)
I just looked at cyanogen's wiki and it seems like that particular part could stand to be updated androidandme has a decent guide on how you could do this though.
http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
I'm not sure if flashrec works with RC29 which is what version you should be on after flashing DREAIMG.nbh, but you can give parts A1, A2, & A3 a shot, that would probably be the easiest way to update your recovery. If you can't get flashrec to work skip down to B2 and that will show you how to do it using telnet which does work from RC29
Once you update you're recovery image you should be able to apply "update.zip" or without renaming them by selecting the "apply any zip from sd" option
Thanks, Jackslim. I did as you suggested, and was able to install the CM update, as per the wiki, however, when it boots up, it shows the blue cyanogen android, and then reverts to a completely blank screen. I'm going to try reinstalling everything to see if that fixes it. Thanks for your help though.
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Thanks, Jackslim. I did as you suggested, and was able to install the CM update, as per the wiki, however, when it boots up, it shows the blue cyanogen android, and then reverts to a completely blank screen. I'm going to try reinstalling everything to see if that fixes it. Thanks for your help though.
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After you install that recovery image you still have to go through the steps to install the ADP image before you add the cyangen update, then you should be cookin' with crisco
So just start back up on cyanogen's wiki from the section called "File Download"
Just to clarify, even though it is not booting up properly, I am now able to install whatever I want using recovery mode, so it's just a matter of figuring out what will work. Thanks again for all your help.
jackslim said:
After you install that recovery image you still have to go through the steps to install the ADP image before you add the cyangen update, then you should be cookin' with crisco
So just start back up on cyanogen's wiki from the section called "File Download"
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I did get it working, thanks. Now I just have to reload all my contacts and apps, but I have already noticed a difference in device responsiveness. It's like going from Windows Vista to Windows 7. Thanks again.
I bought a Rogers HTC Magic for a pretty cheap price. It had The Rogers 1.5 Sense UI update on it. I decided I wanted to root it and load other ROMs, etc. So I read that the easiest method was to use Universal Androot to root it, and ROM Manager (from the Market) to flash the appropriate recovery image.
So, I installed both apps. I first ran Universal Androot and rooted. I confirmed root through ADB and also Super User permissions. I then restarted the phone just for peace of mind. After the restart, I ran ROM Manager. It automatically popped up and asked me if I was running an Ion/My Touch or an HTC Magic. I selected HTC Magic, because that's what this is. So then it flashed the recovery image and restarted the phone. When it restarted it went to the Rogers boot screen for a few seconds, and then started a loop of restarts. That's all it does now. It shows the Rogers screen for a few seconds, goes black and reboots over and over. I have tried booting into HBOOT, Fastboot, and into recovery. I cannot boot into any of them. One thing I did notice is that when I'm pressing any of the combinations (volume down + power, home + power, menu + power) for a very brief half a second right before the phone restarts, the bottom of the screen says "ClockwordMod ..." where ... is the version of the image (I'm at work without the phone, so I don't recall the exact number there).
So, is this thing officially a paperweight now, or is there some sort of hope?
Thanks.
Paul
Well, I don't know if you are full-bricked but here is what went wrong. The HTC Magic recovery is incorrect for the mytouch3g (at least the 32b). There was a top option for "saphire/mytouch 3g" which is what you should have chosen. So, you can't load the incompatible recovery. Can't you boot back into the rom you were using? The recovery flash shouldn't have messed with it. If you can, boot back in and flash the correct mytouch3g recovery in rom manager.
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Well, I don't know if you are full-bricked but here is what went wrong. The HTC Magic recovery is incorrect for the mytouch3g (at least the 32b). There was a top option for "saphire/mytouch 3g" which is what you should have chosen. So, you can't load the incompatible recovery. Can't you boot back into the rom you were using? The recovery flash shouldn't have messed with it. If you can, boot back in and flash the correct mytouch3g recovery in rom manager.
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Okay. That's weird. I mean, my phone is a Magic so choosing the option for the Magic instead of the Ion/MyTouch seemed to make sense.
Anyway, I cannot get anywhere. Holding vol+ and power does nothing, neither does home and power or back and power. Are there any other tricks to getting anywhere beyond this endless restart loop?
Thanks.
Starting to think I'm screwed.
PaulieORF said:
Starting to think I'm screwed.
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You may be, I'm not sure exactly what state you are in but the recovery you installed was for a magic 32a (that you have) with a 3.x radio (that you don't have)
The rogers sense rom uses the 6.x hero radio and needs a hero recovery.
The mt3g uses a 2.x radio thus yet another recovery.
Try booting with volume down to see if you can get into the hboot/fastboot screen, but I think you tried this already.. you may also try letting it loop unplugged until the battery drains it may error out giving you access again..
Besides that there is the option of jtag and fixing the software stack that way.
ezterry said:
You may be, I'm not sure exactly what state you are in but the recovery you installed was for a magic 32a (that you have) with a 3.x radio (that you don't have)
The rogers sense rom uses the 6.x hero radio and needs a hero recovery.
The mt3g uses a 2.x radio thus yet another recovery.
Try booting with volume down to see if you can get into the hboot/fastboot screen, but I think you tried this already.. you may also try letting it loop unplugged until the battery drains it may error out giving you access again..
Besides that there is the option of jtag and fixing the software stack that way.
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Thanks for the reply!
Right, I cannot get into fastboot or hboot. I'll try running the battery down when I get home today. Interesting idea.
Unfortunately running the battery dead with restarts didn't do the trick.
Any idea if there's any place I can send it to who has the smarts to jtag recover this thing?
Thanks.
me too
I did the same thing on a 32B. Rooted. loaded ROM Manager. Ran the recovery, I choose the Ion/MT3G option. tried to load CM6-FroyoRedux-v1.7-32b-blk.zip. Now it's stuck in the boot screen.
tmokeith said:
I did the same thing on a 32B. Rooted. loaded ROM Manager. Ran the recovery, I choose the Ion/MT3G option. tried to load CM6-FroyoRedux-v1.7-32b-blk.zip. Now it's stuck in the boot screen.
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I don't think it's the same thing.
I rooted, loaded ROM Manager and installed the recovery. I was never even able to get into recovery in order to try to load any ROMs.
I have a Rogers magic, and its a 32a. One way to fix it is to go to the HTC website and punch in your serial number and download the rogers update. Only problem is that will make it a pain to root again. But should fix that reboot loop. But do that as a last resort to get the phone running again.
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nate_benji said:
I have a Rogers magic, and its a 32a. One way to fix it is to go to the HTC website and punch in your serial number and download the rogers update. Only problem is that will make it a pain to root again. But should fix that reboot loop. But do that as a last resort to get the phone running again.
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The phone does not identify itself to the computer, so this doesn't work.
The program should try to put the phone into fastboot mode, and install the upgrade. Have you tried pulling the battery and pressing the power button + back, once the battery is installed again?
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nate_benji said:
The program should try to put the phone into fastboot mode, and install the upgrade. Have you tried pulling the battery and pressing the power button + back, once the battery is installed again?
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Oh yes. I've gone crazy trying every key combination with every combination of taking battery out, plugging it in, USB cable attached, detached, etc.
The phone never identifies itself as a piece of hardware to the computer in the 5 seconds between reboots.
I had the same problem yesterday, and i was doing the same rooting with Universal Androot and flashing recovery witch Rom Manager (choose the same options). I tried to go into recovery and then it started to bootlooping the whole time.
I was pretty scared when that happens, can't open fastboot menu and the only thing that my phone was showing was HTC logo and a quick blink of clockwork sign over and over.
I don't know exactly how i managed to fix it, but it started to work when i quickly plug off baterry and i immiediatly plug it in (I was doing it at the exactly time when the phone reboots) while holding the power button.
Now my magic turns on, but recovery won't work (just flash for a moment, and reboots) and it always say at the beginning of booting system that SD card was removed which means i can't use any SD card.
I hope it somehow helped you.
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I had the same problem yesterday, and i was doing the same rooting with Universal Androot and flashing recovery witch Rom Manager (choose the same options). I tried to go into recovery and then it started to bootlooping the whole time.
I was pretty scared when that happens, can't open fastboot menu and the only thing that my phone was showing was HTC logo and a quick blink of clockwork sign over and over.
I don't know exactly how i managed to fix it, but it started to work when i quickly plug off baterry and i immiediatly plug it in (I was doing it at the exactly time when the phone reboots) while holding the power button.
Now my magic turns on, but recovery won't work (just flash for a moment, and reboots) and it always say at the beginning of booting system that SD card was removed which means i can't use any SD card.
I hope it somehow helped you.
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I tried doing this quickly for about 5 minutes this morning but didn't get it to go anyway. I can try some more after work today.
When you say it booted after this battery pull thing, do you mean the phone booted right into Android, or you were able to get to hboot or fastboot?
Thanks.
PaulieORF said:
I tried doing this quickly for about 5 minutes this morning but didn't get it to go anyway. I can try some more after work today.
When you say it booted after this battery pull thing, do you mean the phone booted right into Android, or you were able to get to hboot or fastboot?
Thanks.
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I wasn't able to get hboot or fastboot. I pluged off and on the battery in the exact moment when the Logo came out after restarting. The logo was on the screen for the whole time, even while battery plugged off. I guess, i've done it so quickly that phone didn't switched off.
I think i was holding the power+home or power+back buttons all the time.
Can't really rember the exact way, sorry.
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I tried doing this quickly for about 5 minutes this morning but didn't get it to go anyway. I can try some more after work today.
When you say it booted after this battery pull thing, do you mean the phone booted right into Android, or you were able to get to hboot or fastboot?
Thanks.
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Try removing the SD card and booting if its not restarting due to the wrong radio too soon that may help.. if you get into android restore the SD card and run the exploid process I posted a bit back for rogers magics, or the older goldcard method.
I've played around with taking the battery out and putting it right back in at all different times during the booting and can't get the phone to behave any differently. Iv'e tried it with SD card in and SD card out, USB cable in and USB cable out. I can't get anywhere.
I did notice that the phone does show up as an Android device for a second when it's booting. Tried to catch it in adb but no luck.
Starting to think this thing is shot. Any other ideas?
Just so everyone can see what's happening, I recorded a video and uploaded it. Linked below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPoxMzm0MVU&hd=1
try to hold and KEEP holding the back + power... Not volume down!
Don't push and release like you did in the video.
I have been searching and can find no conclusive answer. I have tried to boot into recovery and when the screen comes up I select Recovery and it just takes me to the dreaded Triangle with red exclamation point. I have tried this time after time and even temp rooted and installed Rom Manager and selected flash Clockworkmod recovery and I received a selection for the MT4G and it then said Clockworkmod Recovery flashed. However when I try to do a back up it just goes to screen with device and triangle. After powering off, When I hold down the power button and volume down button I get the screen with different selections including recovery. When I select recovery it just goes to the screen with the device and the triangle. I only have 3 days left on buyers remorse and I will not keep a device that is this difficult or impossible to boot into recovery. As I am sure it is obvious that I am quite a nubie but I am trying to learn and increase my abilities. I have a Vibrant that I have rooted and flashed numerous roms on and while not an expert I am gaining confidence in working with the device.l Not so with the MT4G lease any and all help will be greatly appreciated. I am looking for positive signs to keep this phone and not send it back.
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I have been searching and can find no conclusive answer. I have tried to boot into recovery and when the screen comes up I select Recovery and it just takes me to the dreaded Triangle with red exclamation point. I have tried this time after time and even temp rooted and installed Rom Manager and selected flash Clockworkmod recovery and I received a selection for the MT4G and it then said Clockworkmod Recovery flashed. However when I try to do a back up it just goes to screen with device and triangle. After powering off, When I hold down the power button and volume down button I get the screen with different selections including recovery. When I select recovery it just goes to the screen with the device and the triangle. I only have 3 days left on buyers remorse and I will not keep a device that is this difficult or impossible to boot into recovery. As I am sure it is obvious that I am quite a nubie but I am trying to learn and increase my abilities. I have a Vibrant that I have rooted and flashed numerous roms on and while not an expert I am gaining confidence in working with the device.l Not so with the MT4G lease any and all help will be greatly appreciated. I am looking for positive signs to keep this phone and not send it back.
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At the screen with the red triangle press VOL UP and POWER.
I had the same problem with my phone. I am guessing this you are rooted and S =off. Now when u flashed the clockwork recovery first time, it probally did not stick. So u need to go back into rom manager again and click on flash clockwork recovery. hopefully this time it will stick. This is what i had to do and it worked for me. Then bootup back into recovery and see if it works.
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At the screen with the red triangle press VOL UP and POWER.
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thanks so much for your kind reply. I did this and it did offer me another menu which included apply udate ziip wipe data wipe cache, factory reset and reboot now. At the bottom of the screen there was the following message:
E:cannot open /cache/recovery/command
I have never seen that error message before. I am not rooted and have only used temp root with Visionary. I used the reboot now and it worked. I was hoping to find a backuip and restore choice. But it is not there.A little afraid to try any of the other choices. On the second try i t took me about 3 minutes of playing around with volume up and power to get the screen again. Is this normal for this device? If so then I am quite sure I am going to return it on Friday. This phone has a lot of wonderful features and is a great solid all around phone but I am looking for something I can play around with and learn without a huge chance of major problems.Perhaps this phone is more for more experienced and knowledgeable and courageous users. I have a Nexus one that I have flashed roms using update.zip method that I am comfortable with and I am fairly familiar with Odin on my Vibrant and have flashed numerous roms with it but have never used adb although I have it set up on my computer. Both other phones are rooted using the one click root. Any further info is certainly warmly appreciated.
I'm pretty sure I have these items in the correct order to "Permaroot" my MT4G and begin using Clockworkmod to load ROMs (and or/also want to be able to back up my default ROM)
My current attempts:
Downloaded and installed: VISIONary, from android.modaco.com, sorry I can't post actual links (VISIONary+, most recent version) was no longer avalible in the market so I had to install it from the URL)
Downloaded and installed "Clockwordmod" from the Market.
Put the phone into USB-Debugging mod, and disabled fast boot.
VISIONary+ question: I setup TEMPROOT, and "Root on Boot", assuming I would than be able to boot into "Recovery mode" via "Clockworkmod"
The phone reboots, and I'm assuming that would boot into "Root" **Root on boot** (Yes I know the temp. should fail after a reboot, but I thought, I'll stay away from "Permaroot" for now). However, I don't get to any sort of recovery mode, instead I get a screen with a triangle and exclamation in red, and that's it, it just hangs there, I'm thinking that this is just USB-Debugging, and I'm not achieving recovery mode, so this must be the result of not booting into a root mode.
Going back to VISIONary+, I attempt to "Permaroot", the phone's homescreen goes blank and nothing happens. The phone eventually turns itself off but doesn't reboot, subsequently, I must restart it manually, again, I'm not sure if I've achieved anything?
Advice, suggestions? Would be very appreciated.
Questions that might explain what's wrong?
Even in USB-Debugging mode, should I be connected to a PC via USB-Cable during all of this?
Any thoughts on why the PERMAROOT fails, or the "Root on boot" fails to get me to "Recovery mode"?
Last thing, I get a complaint from "Clockworkmod" when loading, that my SD Card must be mounted (which I'm assuming it isn't due to USB-Debugging mode and/or being connected to the PC) So should I get a good charge and disconnect from the PC while attempting all this? Fixed, disconnected USB-Cable, and mounted SD card in settings, this stopped this error
Also, I'm interested in backing up my default ROM ASAP as a safety-net in-case I screw something up. Is this possible via recovery mode in "Clockworkmod"? Links to advice on doing this?
Thanks everyone! Great board!
you should follow this as it worked for me flawlessly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9534017#post9534017
thanks! that post seems to answer a lot of the specifics I might have been missing! Guess I missed it in search! I'll report my results!
I followed it exactly but I still get the Red Exclamation Point. I have rooted my phone s-off and I have superuser and rom manager. I did the Flash Clockwork Recovery but when I reboot into recovery I get Red Exclamation Point then when I click vol up and power the next says " E:Can't open /cashe/recovery/command " What should I do??
[*]The phone reboots, and I'm assuming that would boot into "Root" **Root on boot** (Yes I know the temp. should fail after a reboot, but I thought, I'll stay away from "Permaroot" for now). However, I don't get to any sort of recovery mode, instead I get a screen with a triangle and exclamation in red, and that's it, it just hangs there, I'm thinking that this is just USB-Debugging, and I'm not achieving recovery mode, so this must be the result of not booting into a root mode.
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You can NOT flash clockwork without S-OFF and the red triangle is recovery. It is stock recovery if you press volup+power you will see the menu
S is off I rooted my phone using the terminal Emulator and that worked fine
When I press upvol and power I see
Reboot system now
Apply sdcard:update.zip
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cashe partition
E:Can't open /cashe/recovery/command
This is what my screen shows when I try to go into recovery and again my phone is rooted s-off and I use superuser
Try flashing the recovery again... for some reason people have reported it not sticking... just go back and flash it like 2 or 3 times then reboot
I found out the problem it was so easy but I never would of thought of checking but my wife said maybe my Rom Manager is a bad copy (because I get all my apps from a not so honest site) so I deleted my RM and downloaded the freebie on the market and it worked on the first try.....Now I have Glacier Rom running and I feel like a new man
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Try flashing the recovery again... for some reason people have reported it not sticking... just go back and flash it like 2 or 3 times then reboot
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+1 on that, When I first flashed it, I was still getting the red triangle, after a quick google search I re flashed it an extra 2 times and it worked flawlessly
A message popped up from Samsung to install an update (I had been pressing cancel for the past week on this update). It says click OK to reboot and apply update (something along those lines) so I do. Now I am stuck with a tablet that won't boot. If I hold the power button it says "Samsung Galaxy 10.1" after about 12 seconds, but then it goes away and back to darkness. Nothing else. Holding power and volume up does nothing.
Someone know what is going on and have any idea how to resolve?
The best way is to restore any backup you have from cwm recovery. Else grab a stock firmware and flash it with ODIN or if zip than CWM recovery. For luck, try clearing cache and data in recovery, first!Perhaps it may work saving you all fuss of flashing a firmware.
I cannot even boot that far too get into recovery. And I just noticed that although I can't boot, the backlight is on (on a solid black screen).... wtf
You can't hold volume down and power button to enter recovery?
Nope. I plugged into my computer and for some reason with the USB connectd it let me enter recovery. Flashed a backup and rebooted, but now I have no wifi... im confused.
it occured once to me when i tried to overclock, it never worked except when installing a new rom... Try to root the device and then install a new rom
OK, was a helluva night messing with ROM and kernel installs... I have yet to go back to completely stock (that's next up tonight, unfortunately), but I installed Starburst ROM and the Wifi still didn't work so I then installed pershoot's kernel and now when I boot the screen is extremely distorted kind of like this: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsKa5IoQxnesGdUjykWDDggoQZ38yZ2VXSgPAQ09NOCnETzl9-
As a side note, when I say the wifi is not working, it still shows all networks and allows me to connect just like normal. However when connected no apps can access the network...
Can someone point me to a thread on how to revert EVERYTHING back to stock so I can start fresh? TIA!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
Should have all the files you need. From where you are now I would flash the stock OTA 3.1 or TW then flash the stock recovery and do a factory reset from that recovery. That should get rid of the garbled screen.
Thanks buddy. On my way to grab the files now
I heard the update was pulled as it sometimes rewrites the bootloader improperly. You might need to send it in, unfortunately.