People are probably going to flame this thread for me saying this but what the heck.....
there have been countless threads about how to remove, replace, and/or delete system apps and their functions. And with a little searching you will find there are many answers.
At the least I should say, is that system apps can be removed, however; there are certain ones that should not be removed because it will break your system....that's been established already, duh?, yes I know...but here is what my point is to cover:
The system apps that were known to be removed with no problem are calendar, clock, IM, mail, work email, and other little third party apps added to the system by whatever Dev made the rom,
and the ones recommended that SHOULD NOT be removed are main phone functioning apps such as..Mms, Music, Dialer, Contacts, Camera and so on ad so forth,
Well that is correct. Those can't be removed, but yes they can be replaced and no it will not break the system.
I use Handcent sms as my default Mms, the original system version is removed.
I use Meridian music player as my default Music app, the original system version is removed,
I use Camera zoom Pro, as my original Camera app, the original system version is removed.
So in a nutshell, I basically chose all the stable 3rd party phone functioning apps that I use daily and made them replacements to the default system versions, so I don't have two music apps, two message apps, two camera apps and so on.
Did it break my stability?, Crash my phone?, Cause crazy reboots? Screw with the incoming and outgoing calls,tex, and mms?
The answer is no, no, no, and NO. Everything is fine. I have been doing this for a long time now, so this is not some new technique that I have only tested once, on one rom.
I have replaced every system app except dialer, there is really no replacement for that in my opinion that is worthy. Contacts I have replaced before with a 3rd party app called phone book. It worked. But it crashed, because Contact and Dialer go hand in hand, so to successfully replace one you would have to replace the other...my recommendation, don't screw around with those. Besides, Devs implement constant updates and new features to those in every build anyway.
I will more than happily share my method of replacement in a new thread over in the the apps forum if anyone is interested, but feel free to share your opinions, experiences, and your own personal methods here.....
and if enough users request, I will create a "How to" for everyone later.
What's your point?
lbcoder said:
What's your point?
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What's yours?
My point is that your "discovery" is one of the VERY BIGGEST defining design features of the android platform. This is nothing new and nothing that even lacks understanding. WE ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS!!!
I suggest that you go and read all the platform documentation. Its all there.
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My point is that your "discovery" is one of the VERY BIGGEST defining design features of the android platform. This is nothing new and nothing that even lacks understanding. WE ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS!!!
I suggest that you go and read all the platform documentation. Its all there.
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links please?....have a few of my own, but Im interested to know if there is something I haven't seen
lbcoder said:
My point is that your "discovery" is one of the VERY BIGGEST defining design features of the android platform. This is nothing new and nothing that even lacks understanding. WE ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS!!!
I suggest that you go and read all the platform documentation. Its all there.
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yes, but quite a lot of people don't know this and would be scared to delete mms.apk. jesus christ, do you EVER think outside the box? please, please, please, get rid of that narrow mind of yours and expand your train of thought.
@ lbcoder
also did you see this:
Quote from my original post above:
that's been established already, duh?, yes I know....
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A tut would benefit us noobs..
Umm a tut like this?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Barebones
Klyentel said:
links please?....have a few of my own, but Im interested to know if there is something I haven't seen
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Why don't we start with the most obvious:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
lbcoder said:
Why don't we start with the most obvious:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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nope...still doesn't explain my method, I have a much easier...more understandable way of doing this (for noobs)...I will post later.
Sleeepy2 said:
Umm a tut like this?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Barebones
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Thats a great link by the way^^ but still only explains how to delete, it doesn't state how to successfully replace system apps.
Couldn't you just replace the files (/system/app) in any ROM and resign and flash?
that seems easiest to me.
cal3thousand said:
Couldn't you just replace the files (/system/app) in any ROM and resign and flash?
that seems easiest to me.
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BINGO!^^ that's exact same way I do it, however there is another method I'd like to share, just don't have the time to type it up,
note to those who don't know when replacing the apps, rename the apk the same as the original, so if you want GDE for your home replacement, remove the original Launcher.apk then drop in GDE and rename it Launcher.apk....very important step, you will get unstoppable reboots and freezing.
Its called Terminal Emulator.
mount system and remove the apps in the system/app directory. virtually everyone knows this. There was a post on how to do this in the general section. fin.
Macrophage001 said:
Its called Terminal Emulator.
mount system and remove the apps in the system/app directory. virtually everyone knows this. There was a post on how to do this in the general section. fin.
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dude read the topic, Im talking about replacing not removing, so if you're going to post commands then put one up on how to replace an app already running from data partition to system/data replacing the one already there I.E. handcent(data partition) replaces Mms.(system/data)....otherwise you're not helping, No sh**t, I know everyone knows that but dont know this....so
for those who don't give a dam for codes and commands, or screwing with zips and resigning...patiently wait and I will post easiest method- you can do it right from your phone, without even rebooting!
I'll try to have it up later today.
ehh basically the same thing only you would push the apk's to the system/app directory.
Or you can just put em in the data/app directory and delete the apk in the system/app directory. still not that hard =/ a lot of people already know how to do this as well.
There are a lot of easy methods. sorry if I came out rude and sarcastic its my nature =/
just let him write his tut
then you can
say he has reinvented the wheel
call him a plagiarist
give him a pat on the back for making it nice and easy for noobs to understand
Well I wasn't assuming that I had re-invented something or made an all new discovery...Im pretty sure everything around here has had atleast a dozen how to threads, and everyone, after a little research should pretty much know how to do everything, I admit
So I don't want to come off as some obnoxious asshole that think he knows everything, because Im not, I just wanted to share my opinion, the whole reason I became a member of xda,
So those of you who already know how to do this, then ease off, don't jump down my back just because you know of other threads and topics in relation, or you have easier methods and how to's or whatever, I'm not starting a conspiracy here...geez, I make one topic that's been seen before, and now it's like I can't express my freedom of discussion just because someone else did first. That's a load of crap and you guys know so.
Anyway here is my tut:
For those of ya with some type of root explorer this would be the preferable procedure for you
go to the /data/apps directory select the apk that you would like to use for replacement, such as Meridian music player, rename it to music.apk
then copy
navigate to system/data/apps directory, paste...it should say it already exist and would you like to replace click yes.
Done. Do the same for any other system app, by renaming it as original, copy and replace.
Be sure to put system in Read/Write or this won't work.
That's it. Simple, brief, and no problem.
For those who also put their input into this thread I thank you for your time..your knowledge is noted and appreciated.
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Umm a tut like this?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Barebones
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well good link... i dont follow cyanogen and i know how to delete apps. what i am after is replacing the sys apps with third party apps... i am sure it is more involved than pushing to /system/app... hence i asked for a tut
well thats it?!! rename the replacement app to the app itss replacing in system! wow thanks for the tidbit... ill try the resigning thing also. thanks!
Related
I present to you a FAQ for newcomers or the generally uninformed to find quick answers.
General
Q: What is a ROM?
A: A ROM is a complete system image of the Android operating system. For much more detailed info, read here.
Q: How do I install a ROM?
A: ROMs can be flashed once you have rooted your phone and flashed a custom recovery image. After that, you can apply a rom zip via the recovery menu. Detailed info here.
Q: Where can I find more info about ROMs?
A: In the two links above.
Q: What is Apps2SD and how do I use it?
A:Apps2SD is a script that will do exactly as it implies so you are no longer limited to your phone's internal storage. First you must be running a custom ROM that supports it and secondly you need to format your SD card as FAT+ext2. Once that requirement is met, the rest will be automatic. Alternative you could install a2sd on stock rom manually if you wanted to for whatever reason. Warning: Formatting your SD card will erase ALL of the data on it. If you want to keep it, make a backup.
Q: All the Market downloads are stalling. How can I fix this?
A: Sign into Gtalk. The two are closely related even though you'd never guess. For an in-depth discussion head over to this thread.
Q: How do I sign my zip or apk?
A: First you must have java installed on whatever OS you're running. Windows users download the Win-sign.zip attachment. Linux users download Linux-sign.zip attachment.
HTC Hero Specific
Q: How do I root my Sprint CDMA Hero?
A: You've got a few options concerning this. There's the auto-root, flashrec method, and asroot2 method.
Q: How can I remove pre-installed apps?
A: Head on over to How remove apps thread for detailed instructions.
Q: How can I get rid of ringtones and notifications I've downloading from showing up in the Music app and use them without downloading a Market app?
A: Create a folder in the root of your SD card called "media" and a folder called "audio" inside that one. Inside the "audio" folder, create a "notifications", "ringtones", or "alarms" depending on your needs and place the files in the desired folder. Example: media>audio>ringtones>custom-ringtone.mp3
Q: How can I tether my Hero to my PC?
A: You've got several options here. There's Wifi Tether, EasyTether, PDAnet, or without any app! You can read up respectively on each of the apps listed about to learn more about which might be best for you. Now, here's how you can tether without any of that stuff.
Step 1: Connect your phone to your computer with a USB cable and make sure all other forms of internet are disconnected.
Step 2: Install HTC Sync.
Step 3: On your phone go to Settings>Wireless controls and enable Mobile networking sharing. Your PC will try to recognize your phone and install proper drivers and will probably fail. So do it manually using the drivers from HTC Sync located in the directory you installed it. PC should be recognizing your phone now if done properly.
Step 3: Within the Wireless controls menu go into Mobile network settings and change Mode of operation to 1x only.
Step 4: Go back one menu to the Wireless controls and turn off the Mobile network. Now, turn Mobile network back on and enable Mobile network sharing as quickly as possible.This may take a couple of tries. If you did this fast enough you'll get a message saying HTC sync is disable but you won't get Error 67.
Step 5: Change your Mode of Operation back to Hybrid and enjoy.
Leave a suggestion if there's something you think should be added.
Me likes.
Though I think that this would work best as a Wiki so that other informed users can add to it as things come up and we dont have to rely on just one user/dev to maintain it.
Thanks for taking the initiative on this, I am getting quite tired of all the useless threads and continuous thread hijacking over issues that have already been covered 20 times. I dont have all day to read through all the BS that has been filling up the threads lately.
Almost 200 views and no suggestions?
I don't know if this is up you guys' alley, but if any Cricket folks could put together a step-by-step on how to flash to Cricket, especially how to flash with sms/data working, that would be so helpful.
Something else that I can't find good and thorough instructions for is the Cricket broadband workaround, where (if I understand correctly), you use your Cricket USB Broadband modem for all data on the Hero via proxying into it. All I really find on the latter is vague directions to use Anycut/Bettercut and no details about what to do in either program or how to input proxy settings. The most detailed guide I was able to find seems to actually be for a different model phone, since the instructions either only relate to WM or a GSM Hero.
I am trying to figure this out, and if I do before anyone else straightens it out, I'll write something up. I know how annoying it is to get the same questions over and over in these forums. (I've tried my best to help out the Axim x51v community at HTCGeeks with these kinds of things.)
At any rate, it would be awesome to see some more Cricket Hero chatter, even if it isn't revelations, on this thread. I know we're out there lurking, appearing to be Sprinties.
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I think this would be great for all people that take time to read before posting.but most the post are people not caring enough about their device to read the great info already provided for them. I'm goin to pm u a crazy idea I have.
This is a great idea, whether it is a wiki or a thread.
One question though, don't you need to put a blank "nomedia" file in the ringtones folder?
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This is a great idea, whether it is a wiki or a thread.
One question though, don't you need to put a blank "nomedia" file in the ringtones folder?
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nope. I have lots of random mp3s and stuff i use for ringtones and notifs and i do exactly like above and none of it shows up in the music app.
theresthatguy said:
nope. I have lots of random mp3s and stuff i use for ringtones and notifs and i do exactly like above and none of it shows up in the music app.
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Mine is the same. Im just organized, just now realized that it is like that lol.
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One question though, don't you need to put a blank "nomedia" file in the ringtones folder?
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I use that 'trick' to hide certain pics from the album.
Negrito said:
I use that 'trick' to hide certain pics from the album.
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Can you explain this album trick?
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Can you explain this album trick?
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The trick is create a file any directory, that want to hide from Music & Gallery, called ".nomedia".
To make a .nomedia file, just take an empty .txt file and rename it.
How about a Q&A on how to sign an .apk
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Can you explain this album trick?
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See Below. Then, personally, I hide the folder severals folders deep in the most random place i can think of in the file directory.
gu1dry said:
The trick is create a file any directory, that want to hide from Music & Gallery, called ".nomedia".
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Exactly.
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To make a .nomedia file, just take an empty .txt file and rename it.
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Thats what i did, but it didint work on my MacBook, so i did it at work on my Win98 box.
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How about a Q&A on how to sign an .apk
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Deal.
edit: windows or linux?
I have a notifications and ringtones folder on the root of the SD card and works, but some people prefer just 1 folder that contains both I guess.
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Deal.
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Windows for me
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theresthatguy said:
Deal.
edit: windows or linux?
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Windows for me
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Linux for me!
I literally just installed Mint on an old PC of mine.
If you're short on time though, windows would be good enough (and much appreciated).
No Mac love? Wait, can it even be done in OS X?
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No Mac love? Wait, can it even be done in OS X?
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haven't come across a single bit of info of rom cooking/dev work on mac.
edit: plus i don't own a mac and pretty much have never used one.
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haven't come across a single bit of info of rom cooking/dev work on mac.
edit: plus i don't own a mac and pretty much have never used one.
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i think this is because (almost) EVERYONE that owns a mac also owns a iphone...annnd a ipod....and a macbook....and a ipad....and don't need to develop android software because they have something with a shiny apple on it.
nothing against you, Negrito but most people (that i know...personally) who use macs are completely nuts for apple. hardcore apple fanboys.
my "friend" won't even hold my hero, i think he thinks it will convert him...and he knows that i know this...
I have been reading this forum for some weeks now and wanted to thank you all for the great info here. I got my first Android phone (Vibrant) a few weeks ago.
I found out about rooting just yesterday. Since I really don't want to spend a lot of time troubleshooting the phone, I had a few questions to figure out whether I should root or not:
Will rooting my phone be overall worth it? Will I have to troubleshoot it a lot as a result? It works well now.
How will the updates work in the future? For example, I won't have to worry about Android 2.2 because it will be included in Cyanogen? Will my phone notify me when it's time to update?
This one is important: are there any instructions that tell me how to backup my current phone so that I can restore it to the original condition in case something happens?
Is Cyanogen accepted to be the best for rooting?
Will all my applications become uninstalled? Will anything else change besides my access level? I read some conflicting into on this.
Can you think of any disadvantages to rooting (other than possible voiding of warranty if you can't hide it)?
Do you guys have a list in this forum as to which applications are bloatware and should be removed (and are safe to remove)? I don't know anything about Android, so I have no idea
And finally, is there a thread/list where all the most important/useful applications that should be installed after rooting are listed? I know titanium backup is one. I couldn't understand what BusyBox does. So a list with explanations would be great.
I haven't liked the battery life of this phone and I am hoping that after removing all the bloatware from it that issue might be fixed as well. My phone starts with 160M+ memory. Even though I keep killing open applications, the performance keeps dropping over time until I can't get more memory beyond ~90M. This is when I have to shut down the phone and turn back on. Other than tethering, my main reason for rooting is 1.performance gain and 2.battery life extension.
Thanks for all the help. A lot of talented people on this forum.
There is no reason to not root this phone in my opinion. You can unroot it. You will get OTA updates using the stock ROM. Many of the recommended apps, guides, useful information is in the sticky at the top. Please read that, then ask any more detailed question you may have.
edit: when you root, there will be NO change to your apps/contacts/settings/etc.... you will reboot and be like "well, am I rooted?"... look for the superuser app in your app drawer, there? Good, you were successful.
Ok, you got an excellent thread there that pretty much answered all my questions! I will root my phone and get back here if I have any more questions, with a cleaned up list. Thanks.
will applying the RyanZA fix stop the OTA update?
A lot of people have this misconception that rooting means modifying their phone. Rooting by itself is not really modifying anything on your phone, all it does is give you super user privileges.
Think of your Mac or Windows PC, you have administrative accounts and you have user accounts. Admins can do anything, user accounts are typically limited.
When you have root access to your phone, you are the admin. You can access features that default account can't.
With that said, once you do have su you step into a whole new world with many different paths. You can can simply stay rooted and use apps that required root access and leave it at that.
Or you can dive into custom ROMs. This is where you step off the manufacturers intended path and follow community developed versions of the operating system.
Alternatively, in between those two extremes above you can do many things in between. You can stay with stock rom but have custom (modules or programs) APKs, or other modifications that change or expand on stock ROM.
Always keep in mind that once you choose to root, what happens to your device is your responsibility. Once again, your responsibility. If you are not willing to accept that, then stay non-rooted/stock and responsibility will be on Samsung to add/remove features, provide updates, fix bugs, etc.
Ok, so a few questions:
I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
Where is the restart function?
How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
Thanks!
Awesome, Glad to hear your root went well.
1. I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
I remove almost all non-system apps unless it is logical wht said app would need to function, aka, text received you would not want to block messanger/handcent..... if there is something you are questioning, just let me know.
2. You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
Now that you have root, remove all of the bloatware and it will not be an issue. These run in the background and very likely are not using ANY of your resources.
3. There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
I used that thread because a lot of people posted the apps they removed. Almost all of them can be removed, if there is one you are questioning, let me know.
4. You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
I mentioned in the sticky that I do not use TB. I know it allows you to remove apps, but Root Explorer does this and a lot more. For example..... #6
5. Where is the restart function?
Not sure I know what you mean? if you want a reboot option you can get Quick Boot from the market.
6. How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
In the sticky I show where the files are located. With Root Explorer you can navigate to them and delete the files.
I agree with a lot on this thread. A master Guide for rooting/unrooting and usage should be made. The FAQ currently stickied is informative for the most part but it focuses on far too many things to be able to go into enough detail on each. Personally I would like a "All things root" guide or something sticked which is comprehensive and focuses JUST on that, with the most common root usage apps and things posted (including safe disabling or removal of bloat, backing up, flashing roms, etc.) so that people who have NO idea whatsoever and it is their first phone or something can just read that and feel at home. I may start working on one if no one else does it, we'll see.
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so that people who have NO idea whatsoever and it is their first phone or something can just read that and feel at home.
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I'd say that if someone has no idea what they are doing, the last thing they should be attempting is flashing firmware on their phone.
The layer of obscurity and technical difficulty associated with rooting/modding is of benefit in terms of preventing people from doing things they should not be doing without sufficient knowledge base.
There is plenty of info here and online in general to start someone off if they are interested in learning about this in general.
IMHO, creating a trail of bread crumbs for someone who doesn't know what they are doing is more likely to hurt them or community in general rather than help them.
In my experience rooting your could be fun and a nightmare, if not done properly and, you have of time on you're you could become a rom switching addict cyanogen is currently available for the vibrant you can still root, but you will be on stock vibrant rom.till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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Awesome, Glad to hear your root went well.
1. I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
I remove almost all non-system apps unless it is logical wht said app would need to function, aka, text received you would not want to block messanger/handcent..... if there is something you are questioning, just let me know.
2. You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
Now that you have root, remove all of the bloatware and it will not be an issue. These run in the background and very likely are not using ANY of your resources.
3. There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
I used that thread because a lot of people posted the apps they removed. Almost all of them can be removed, if there is one you are questioning, let me know.
4. You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
I mentioned in the sticky that I do not use TB. I know it allows you to remove apps, but Root Explorer does this and a lot more. For example..... #6
5. Where is the restart function?
Not sure I know what you mean? if you want a reboot option you can get Quick Boot from the market.
6. How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
In the sticky I show where the files are located. With Root Explorer you can navigate to them and delete the files.
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1. What I don't understand is that the category says "New Outgoing Call" and GVoice beneath it. So I should NOT disable it, right? Because it has nothing to do with startup? But if so, then almost every other category has nothing to do with startup either. It is only the first listing that says "After Startup" and it misses A LOT of applications that do start up, like TeleNav. I don't even see TeleNav anywhere in that list. Same is true for "Email," Gallery," "Voice Dialer," and a bunch of other apps that I don't want to start on startup. I don't see any way of killing these other than by ATKiller. Am I missing something here?
2. See the problem is this: right now I have Telenav and I use it sometimes. However, I don't want it to run just whenever. So if I don't want to uninstall it, isn't my only solution ATKiller? There are other programs like this. And I can't disable them from the Autostart menu either since they're not there (Filtered out System files).
3. That site does not list what each of the bloatware does. For example, I am not sure I want to remove Account and Sync because I might need it for my bills. Same thing with "MyFiles." I don't even know what "vvm" is.
4. I am not able to tether the phone. I already tried Barnacle and it said "Running..." after I disabled supplicant, used channel 6, and disable ad-hoc. Then I tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739147&highlight=tether, but I am still not able to connect. My laptop detects the phone as "computer-to-computer network," but when I click connect, it keeps trying to connect and then doesn't. I am not sure where to go from here.
Thanks.
One more thing I still don't know: how are the updates going to work from now on? Whenever an Android update comes out, like 2.1update or Froyo, do I have to come here and do everything manually? Or is there a way from within the phone to find out with one click? I am assuming whatever update is available for the phone will also be available for custom download (otherwise I could unroot, update, reroot?).
Thanks.
By the way, I also agree about a complete guide. It's not that it will enable the clueless to mess up their phone, but rather the opposite - it will allow the clueless to become cluefull. Such a guide would be very helpful. Meanwhile I am having to jump from thread to thread and then to Google trying to find out about this or that. That's not to say that the guide available isn't very helpful already.
I've already contacted a few people about starting said guide. I have not got much feedback from people willing to help....
^ you've asked a lot man... I can try and answer some, but you need to keep doing some reading. I feel like I've offered up a lot as is.
Just b/c you have root, does not mean you will not receive the OTA updates. If Froyo is released, you can update from the phone, you will lose root though. Most of us, will wait for the developers to have a stock froyo + root that we can flash.
why use telenav? I am not familiar.. just curious why not use google nav?
autostarts, just b/c you have it set to not start an app on boot, does not mean when you click the icon to open it will cause an issue. Really not that big of a deal. If you notice an issue, just set the app back to enabled.
Do not use a task killer.
The thread I linked has plenty of information for what you can remove from the phone, with instructions.... same for the barnacle tether app. If you want, download Wireless Tether, google it... the source code is on google.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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In my experience rooting your could be fun and a nightmare, if not done properly and, you have of time on you're you could become a rom switching addict cyanogen is currently available for the vibrant you can still root, but you will be on stock vibrant rom.till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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Cyanogen is not yet available for the Vibrant. It will soon.
Froyo-cooked ROMS are already out for the Vibrant (alas with some bugs) so I don't think there's a reason to think Cyanogen won't be on Froyo.
Also: Never having done a root/rom flash does not make someone stupid or signify they should never try it. It just means they should READ some documentation and be technically up to the challenge before they do. I don't think having a clear guide on most of the process will hurt anyone who is coming into this but doesn't yet know all the details and steps of what to do.
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Ok, you got an excellent thread there that pretty much answered all my questions! I will root my phone and get back here if I have any more questions, with a cleaned up list. Thanks.
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glad the root went well for you. I am wanting to root my phone too, but not sure which root method is easiest and best.
Which root method did you use?
I had a mytouch rooted before the Vibrant, but they are way different and I dont want to screw up
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I've already contacted a few people about starting said guide. I have not got much feedback from people willing to help....
^ you've asked a lot man... I can try and answer some, but you need to keep doing some reading. I feel like I've offered up a lot as is.
Just b/c you have root, does not mean you will not receive the OTA updates. If Froyo is released, you can update from the phone, you will lose root though. Most of us, will wait for the developers to have a stock froyo + root that we can flash.
why use telenav? I am not familiar.. just curious why not use google nav?
autostarts, just b/c you have it set to not start an app on boot, does not mean when you click the icon to open it will cause an issue. Really not that big of a deal. If you notice an issue, just set the app back to enabled.
Do not use a task killer.
The thread I linked has plenty of information for what you can remove from the phone, with instructions.... same for the barnacle tether app. If you want, download Wireless Tether, google it... the source code is on google.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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I appreciate all your answers. I don't mean to say that anyone else can't answer as well. I am still unclear on several things I asked and would appreciate if someone could chime in, at least about the exact procedures for using autostart and the reasoning behind not using the task killer. I am new to Android, but I am pretty good at computers, including building them. So when I am learning about doing this or that, I would like to know about the reasoning behind that. I am sure that all of the questions I ask here I can find out on my own, but I was hoping that I could utilize the purpose of the forum and learn something from the veterans rather than reinventing the wheel myself.
I am using Telenav because I have a one month free trial. I discovered Google Nav just yesterday. I just want to compare them myself, even though it is unlikely I will pay $10/month in either case. But remember that Telenav is just one of the applications causing issues.
Thanks for all the answers. Please don't feel pressured to answer all the things I might ask. If I don't get enough answers, I'll just do a quick thread search and if that's not fruitful, I'll create a specific thread for autostart usage.
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till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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Isn't this illegal? I thought the whole point of Android was opensource and under the GPL License, they are required to post the full source code, right? Or I could just be way off base here.
kboater said:
glad the root went well for you. I am wanting to root my phone too, but not sure which root method is easiest and best.
Which root method did you use?
I had a mytouch rooted before the Vibrant, but they are way different and I dont want to screw up
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I used the first procedure recommended in the sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7150299&postcount=1
I am not sure why it said that you have to restart several times. Here are some clarifications on the steps there that I think were not too clear:
1. When you connect your device, you need to pull down the message area, click on the USB, and only then you will see the option to MOUNT your phone. I had to experiment to figure this out.
2. The guide doesn't say, but if your USB debugging mode is on, I would disable it, just to be safe: Settings (this is that leftmost button on your phone when you're at your desktop)-->Applications-->Development-->USB debugging (uncheck). This might be unnecessary, but I did it just to be safe.
3. When you are copying the Update.zip file into your phone, make sure you check the size of the folder. It must be your internal storage - it will be 12GB+ and will have your system files. If you have trouble identifying this, simply remove your SD card!
4. When you are restarting the phone, make sure you press the volume button in the MIDDLE so that it is entirely pressed (up and down). While holding it, press and hold the power. Do not let go of the volume button until your enter the recovery menu.
Anyway, that's what I did and rooted from the first time without any issues.
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Isn't this illegal? I thought the whole point of Android was opensource and under the GPL License, they are required to post the full source code, right? Or I could just be way off base here.
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It could be that Samsung has modified the code for their own phones making the code their property, while the "regular" 2.2 (unmodified) would be available to everyone. I could be wrong, but I think this how it would work.
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I used the first procedure recommended in the sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7150299&postcount=1
I am not sure why it said that you have to restart several times. Here are some clarifications on the steps there that I think were not too clear:
1. When you connect your device, you need to pull down the message area, click on the USB, and only then you will see the option to MOUNT your phone. I had to experiment to figure this out.
2. The guide doesn't say, but if your USB debugging mode is on, I would disable it, just to be safe: Settings (this is that leftmost button on your phone when you're at your desktop)-->Applications-->Development-->USB debugging (uncheck). This might be unnecessary, but I did it just to be safe.
3. When you are copying the Update.zip file into your phone, make sure you check the size of the folder. It must be your internal storage - it will be 12GB+ and will have your system files. If you have trouble identifying this, simply remove your SD card!
4. When you are restarting the phone, make sure you press the volume button in the MIDDLE so that it is entirely pressed (up and down). While holding it, press and hold the power. Do not let go of the volume button until your enter the recovery menu.
Anyway, that's what I did and rooted from the first time without any issues.
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thanks
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I'm new to the android platform. Coming from using an iPhone for years, I pretty much have no idea how to use it properly. It's going to take me a while to get used to it. But I'm working on it. I just have a few questions.
I believe I successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy s4, using motochopper. I followed the instructions to the T and now see the Superuser icon on my screen.
My first question is, are there any tips with this learning curve, going from an iPhone to an Android. The texting seems to be the most to get used to so far. I also notice Instagram and Facebook apps are totally different, and it looks like I cannot edit photos inside the Facebook app for Android?
Anyway, with the iPhone I would jailbreak, and use cydia to get my paid apps for free, or my tweaks, or customizations. How do I do this with Android?
My next question is a pretty stupid one I'm sure to most but not to me. How do I sync music, and photos, to my Android? With the iPhone I made a folder of images, and synced that folder and all subfolders with the iPhone through iTunes. Is there a simple way to do the same with the Android? Can I just create a folder inside the Pictures folder, and it will show up on the phone?
I appreciate anyones help and I'm sure I will have more questions just can't think of them at this moment.
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Anyway, with the iPhone I would jailbreak, and use cydia to get my paid apps for free, or my tweaks, or customizations. How do I do this with Android?
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I'll address this question as i'm unfamiliar with the iPhone and i don't use my phone for music so i don't know what the best methods are.
Rooting and jailbreaking are slightly different things. On the iphone, you are locked to iTunes and jailbreaking allows you to install apps from an alternative source (Like cydia). On an android phone, you just need to place a check mark in the setting "Unknown Sources" of your security settings, this will allow the phone to accept apps from any location, there are alternative markets to the play store f-Droid and amazon come to mind so rooting is not needed for this.
Rooting is gaining administrative rights to your phone and can let you do some spectacular things with your phone that would otherwise be impossible. With root access, applications have the ability to modify the system files, say for example, edit the host files to block most advertising, or edit yoru build.prop to make the play store think you are from a different provider. You can allow programs to back up other programs (Titanium backup is a fine example).
The developers on android work hard and should be rewarded for their work. I do block advertising, but i make a point of paying for the apps that i do use.
Very well put.
Nothing else needs to be said.
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Matridom said:
I'll address this question as i'm unfamiliar with the iPhone and i don't use my phone for music so i don't know what the best methods are.
Rooting and jailbreaking are slightly different things. On the iphone, you are locked to iTunes and jailbreaking allows you to install apps from an alternative source (Like cydia). On an android phone, you just need to place a check mark in the setting "Unknown Sources" of your security settings, this will allow the phone to accept apps from any location, there are alternative markets to the play store f-Droid and amazon come to mind so rooting is not needed for this.
Rooting is gaining administrative rights to your phone and can let you do some spectacular things with your phone that would otherwise be impossible. With root access, applications have the ability to modify the system files, say for example, edit the host files to block most advertising, or edit yoru build.prop to make the play store think you are from a different provider. You can allow programs to back up other programs (Titanium backup is a fine example).
The developers on android work hard and should be rewarded for their work. I do block advertising, but i make a point of paying for the apps that i do use.
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Hey there, thanks so much for the clarification.
I wasn't aware of the differences between Jailbreaking and Rooting. That definitely clears some things up. So I would mostly have no need for rooting, as I don't need to do anything you mentioned above and doubt I would ever have a need to edit or alter host or system files.
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TheAxman said:
Very well put.
Nothing else needs to be said.
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Not quite true. I still have other questions that I need answers for.
I understand the concept of paying for developers work. I only use the apps to discover if they are worth the money or not. I never "stole" apps on my iPhone and I do not intend to on the Android.
I just want to make that clear, I am just trying to learn how to do the things I did on my iPhone, on this phone. I am not trying to find out how to steal hardwork from others. I do end up paying for the apps I keep.
[email protected] said:
Hey there, thanks so much for the clarification.
I wasn't aware of the differences between Jailbreaking and Rooting. That definitely clears some things up. So I would mostly have no need for rooting, as I don't need to do anything you mentioned above and doubt I would ever have a need to edit or alter host or system files.
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Not quite true. I still have other questions that I need answers for.
I understand the concept of paying for developers work. I only use the apps to discover if they are worth the money or not. I never "stole" apps on my iPhone and I do not intend to on the Android.
I just want to make that clear, I am just trying to learn how to do the things I did on my iPhone, on this phone. I am not trying to find out how to steal hardwork from others. I do end up paying for the apps I keep.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...surfer&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
xBeerdroiDx said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...surfer&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
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Oh my god, the iPhone is just getting worse and worse as the days go by. haha Why is this not a thing on iTunes.
Thankyou!!
Still have questions about transfering/syncing songs and photos though.
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Hey there, thanks so much for the clarification.
I wasn't aware of the differences between Jailbreaking and Rooting. That definitely clears some things up. So I would mostly have no need for rooting, as I don't need to do anything you mentioned above and doubt I would ever have a need to edit or alter host or system files.
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You might be surprised. Root is needed for some changes. To give you another example, our phones, due to the nature of AMOLED are fantastic at displaying a deep black *and* save on power when using black backgrounds. Gmail app, is all white background with black text. There exists a "blacked out" version of gmail that has the colors inverted and many people tend to prefer this over the standard gmail.
Root access let's be backup things that are otherwise impossible to backup, things like the android ID (Used by many applications to individually identify a phone), phone logs, SMS messages and such. Games like farmville and Paradise Island will use the androidd ID to see if you moved your game to a new phone, invalidating the install and forcing you to start from anew (And maybe buying more in-app purchases).
Some applications are limited to certain countries or certain providers, so using an app like Market Enabler allows you to change where you appear to be from, to by-pass regional blocks.
Root is also needed to tweak the appearance of android, if you want the clock gone from your menu, you can remove it, you can change the battery icon there. You can remove your network provider from the lock screen (or rename it to something silly like i did).
On the flip side, some applications (like google wallet) may not work properly if root is detected, so it can be a toss up.
Me, personally, i use root mainly for 2 apps, adaway and titanium backup. Titanium backup also syncs to my dropbox, so i have now gotten to the point where i should never have to plug a wire into my phone.
Looks to me that you are still in love with your iPuke. You will find that if you do not root, you won't be able to do alot of things. If you are trying to turn an android into a iPuke..then whats the point. Learn what the android can do, you will find that it is all you want it to be.
Ax's opinion only!
Matridom said:
You might be surprised. Root is needed for some changes. To give you another example, our phones, due to the nature of AMOLED are fantastic at displaying a deep black *and* save on power when using black backgrounds. Gmail app, is all white background with black text. There exists a "blacked out" version of gmail that has the colors inverted and many people tend to prefer this over the standard gmail.
Root access let's be backup things that are otherwise impossible to backup, things like the android ID (Used by many applications to individually identify a phone), phone logs, SMS messages and such. Games like farmville and Paradise Island will use the androidd ID to see if you moved your game to a new phone, invalidating the install and forcing you to start from anew (And maybe buying more in-app purchases).
Some applications are limited to certain countries or certain providers, so using an app like Market Enabler allows you to change where you appear to be from, to by-pass regional blocks.
Root is also needed to tweak the appearance of android, if you want the clock gone from your menu, you can remove it, you can change the battery icon there. You can remove your network provider from the lock screen (or rename it to something silly like i did).
On the flip side, some applications (like google wallet) may not work properly if root is detected, so it can be a toss up.
Me, personally, i use root mainly for 2 apps, adaway and titanium backup. Titanium backup also syncs to my dropbox, so i have now gotten to the point where i should never have to plug a wire into my phone.
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Thankyou so much for the information. I appreciate your indepth responses. I will check out what you have mentioned.
TheAxman said:
Looks to me that you are still in love with your iPuke. You will find that if you do not root, you won't be able to do alot of things. If you are trying to turn an android into a iPuke..then whats the point. Learn what the android can do, you will find that it is all you want it to be.
Ax's opinion only!
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I really don't know how you're gathering such an opinion. I'm asking for help on learning how to do the things I did on my iPhone, on my new Android phone.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you have nothing useful to contribute, don't post.
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Thankyou so much for the information. I appreciate your indepth responses. I will check out what you have mentioned.
I really don't know how you're gathering such an opinion. I'm asking for help on learning how to do the things I did on my iPhone, on my new Android phone.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you have nothing useful to contribute, don't post.
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Sometimes it's best to ignore....
In regards to music.. look into the Google music app, personally I'm big into radio, so I use an app called tunein allot. Personally, I would just dump the music onto the phone through Windows explorer and see how it goes from there
Something else to keep in mind,a lot of the apps you are familiar with will be available in the play store. Do a good start is to look for familiar titles
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I personally prefer Google Play Music. I uploaded all my 320kbps music which I had in iTunes directly to the Google Play Music server, where you can access all of your songs on any device supporting the app, or in any web browser. You can also download copies to your devices for offline play. The all access feature of Google Play Music is nice as well, they have virtually every song I've searched for available on demand as well as download for offline use, for $7.99/month.
Matridom said:
Sometimes it's best to ignore....
In regards to music.. look into the Google music app, personally I'm big into radio, so I use an app called tunein allot. Personally, I would just dump the music onto the phone through Windows explorer and see how it goes from there
Something else to keep in mind,a lot of the apps you are familiar with will be available in the play store. Do a good start is to look for familiar titles
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Ok great, I will check out the Google music app and I appreciate your help once again.
blyndfyre said:
I personally prefer Google Play Music. I uploaded all my 320kbps music which I had in iTunes directly to the Google Play Music server, where you can access all of your songs on any device supporting the app, or in any web browser. You can also download copies to your devices for offline play. The all access feature of Google Play Music is nice as well, they have virtually every song I've searched for available on demand as well as download for offline use, for $7.99/month.
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Awesome thankyou for your input!
You guys have been super helpful! I'm sure I'll have more questions in the future so I'll be back if I do! Thanks guys!
Sometimes the truth hurts huh
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Sometimes the truth hurts huh
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Totally agree with the sentiment, just not with where it's directed.
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TheAxman said:
Sometimes the truth hurts huh
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And sometimes people think they know everything when in fact they do not. But thanks for your input regardless buddy.
[email protected] said:
And sometimes people think they know everything when in fact they do not. But thanks for your input regardless buddy.
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Who uses their hotmail account as their screen name? That's almost as bad as posting your imei number.
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jd1639 said:
Who uses their hotmail account as their screen name? That's almost as bad as posting your emei number.
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Hahah I didn't even realize I had done that. I think maybe when I signed up I thought it was asking for email. Obviously.
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Hahah I didn't even realize I had done that. I think maybe when I signed up I thought it was asking for email. Obviously.
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Obviously
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jd1639 said:
Obviously
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Don't suppose there's a way to change that huh? haha
[email protected] said:
Don't suppose there's a way to change that huh? haha
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Let me send you an email on that, lol. No, idk
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Hello All,
Not having the availability of a PC at the moment and wanting to edit apks had me thinking if it was possible to run Apktool straight from my Nexus 6p itself. After some research I found some information showing that it is indeed possible (at least it was), but nothing seems to work at the moment, rather nothing seems to be up to date.
I would like some insight on the matter if anyone has any or if anyone can point me to and updated version for Android Nougat.
Here are two threads from xda showing that it indeed it's possible, but not updated. Any help is appreciated thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-core/general/how-to-decompile-recompile-apk-using-t2818875/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488697&page=8
Jackson.Armstrong.Blow said:
Hello All,
Not having the availability of a PC at the moment and wanting to edit apks had me thinking if it was possible to run Apktool straight from my Nexus 6p itself. After some research I found some information showing that it is indeed possible (at least it was), but nothing seems to work at the moment, rather nothing seems to be up to date.
I would like some insight on the matter if anyone has any or if anyone can point me to and updated version for Android Nougat.
Here are two threads from xda showing that it indeed it's possible, but not updated. Any help is appreciated thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-core/general/how-to-decompile-recompile-apk-using-t2818875/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488697&page=8
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The SDmaid app has that feature included, at least the paid version does
GKti22 said:
The SDmaid app has that feature included, at least the paid version does
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No it doesn't. I use SDmaid regularly. Also have pro. Not sure what you mean. SDmaid is not able to decompile apps. APKtool is for decompiling apps so you can make edits to the code. For example, if you use any Team Blackout apps. They decompile the app and then edit the code and use image editors such as Gimp or Photoshop to black out the colors and then recompile it so that you can install and use it. SDmaid is absolutely not a decompiling tool. Two completely different things. Google APKtool to learn more.
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No it doesn't. I use SDmaid regularly. Also have pro. Not sure what you mean. SDmaid is not able to decompile apps. APKtool is for decompiling apps so you can make edits to the code. For example, if you use any Team Blackout apps. They decompile the app and then edit the code and use image editors such as Gimp or Photoshop to black out the colors and then recompile it so that you can install and use it. SDmaid is absolutely not a decompiling tool. Two completely different things. Google APKtool to learn more.
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You're right. I meant to say it can recompile apk files from apps you have already installed, just compiling, which is no big deal you have root anyways since you can grab it directly from system folders.
GKti22 said:
You're right. I meant to say it can recompile apk files from apps you have already installed, just compiling, which is no big deal you have root anyways since you can grab it directly from system folders.
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Where exactly are you talking about? SDmaid can't do any of that to my knowledge.
Edit: APKtool is used to basically rip an app apart so that you can manually edit the code and images inside of it. The inner files that make the app what it is. It separates the app into a bunch of different folders and files. You edit the files and images you want and then recompile it which basically *puts humpty dumpty back together again*. SDmaid is a system cleaning tool to remove unwanted files and folders left over from uninstalled apps. It does not recompile or decompile apps.
#2: See here; https://ibotpeaches.github.io/Apktool/
APKtool and SDmaid are in 2 completely different ballparks in 2 different states. One ballpark is NFL, the other is NBA. Two completely different things.
RoyJ said:
Where exactly are you talking about? SDmaid can't do any of that to my knowledge.
Edit: APKtool is used to basically rip an app apart so that you can manually edit the code and images inside of it. The inner files that make the app what it is. It separates the app into a bunch of different folders and files. You edit the files and images you want and then recompile it which basically *puts humpty dumpty back together again*. SDmaid is a system cleaning tool to remove unwanted files and folders left over from uninstalled apps. It does not recompile or decompile apps.
#2: See here; https://ibotpeaches.github.io/Apktool/
APKtool and SDmaid are in 2 completely different ballparks in 2 different states. One ballpark is NFL, the other is NBA. Two completely different things.
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It can do this, nothing fancy as I said, there are ways that can get the OP full fledged APKtools into his phone but not a legal or XDA friendly I know of...
GKti22 said:
It can do this, nothing fancy as I said, there are ways that can get the OP full fledged APKtools into his phone but not a legal or XDA friendly I know of...
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Your screenshot points to "System" indicating it's a system app. Frozen, an option to freeze the app. And autostart which will list any receivers the app uses to run at boot. I see nothing in your picture about recompiling anything. Then again the quality is badly pixelated. APKtool is a reverse engineering tool. SDmaid is not.
OK. Imagine it like this. You make an omelette (app) with bacon, mushrooms, onions and peppers. You fully cook it (compile it) and then realize that you don't like onions or peppers. So you uncook the omelette so the egg is raw again (decompile it) and you pull out all of the onion and peppers and add diced tomatoes (editing the code). Now you cook it again (recompiling it). Show me exactly where you can do that in SDmaid.
I'm not sure you understand what APKtool is. It is not just a tool to freeze, force close, uninstall, revert to first install or edit receivers. It fully reverse engineers the app so you can edit the code that makes the app what it is.
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The SDmaid app has that feature included, at least the paid version does
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I know all about SDmaid and it's not what I'm looking for nor does it do what I'm asking about @RoyJ is absolutely correct
Jackson.Armstrong.Blow said:
I know all about SDmaid and it's not what I'm looking for nor does it do what I'm asking about @RoyJ is absolutely correct
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Thanks, I felt like I was taking crazy pills lol. I couldn't find anything newer either. If you do end up coming across something here sooner or later, mind tagging me in it? Oh and also, I have APKtool on my laptop. Anything in particular you were looking to do?
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Thanks, I felt like I was taking crazy pills lol. I couldn't find anything newer either. If you do end up coming across something here sooner or later, mind tagging me in it? Oh and also, I have APKtool on my laptop. Anything in particular you were looking to do?
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Yes if I find anything newer working for Nougat I will tag you.
As for your offer I have a few different mods for Nougat that I have collected, the problem is if flash one I erase the current one due to the fact the are SystemUi modifications. What I wanna do is combine them all into one super mod I currently have 3 different systemui mods. I have all the codes that need to be modified as well.
I also would like to tweak the pixel launcher a little. Again I have so.e of it done already I just need finishing touches I guess.
If you willing to take on the task let me know and if not then that's cool as well, either way I will have to learn myself someday and as soon as my laptop is up and running I will begin my education
Jackson.Armstrong.Blow said:
Yes if I find anything newer working for Nougat I will tag you.
As for your offer I have a few different mods for Nougat that I have collected, the problem is if flash one I erase the current one due to the fact the are SystemUi modifications. What I wanna do is combine them all into one super mod I currently have 3 different systemui mods. I have all the codes that need to be modified as well.
I also would like to tweak the pixel launcher a little. Again I have so.e of it done already I just need finishing touches I guess.
If you willing to take on the task let me know and if not then that's cool as well, either way I will have to learn myself someday and as soon as my laptop is up and running I will begin my education
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Sure I'll give it a go in a few hours when I'm back at my laptop. PM me your stock SystemUI.apk and the code you want edited and I'll see what I can do. If it goes well, we'll see about the Pixel launcher. Fair warning, I've only really used it to decompile an app and then recompile and sign. It worked and I could install it, etc., but I haven't messed around with making edits yet. Still willing to give it a shot, there's plenty of threads I could ask in if I run into trouble. It's something I've wanted to do for a while now, so yeah. Learning experience for us both. :good:
RoyJ said:
Sure I'll give it a go in a few hours when I'm back at my laptop. PM me your stock SystemUI.apk and the code you want edited and I'll see what I can do. If it goes well, we'll see about the Pixel launcher. Fair warning, I've only really used it to decompile an app and then recompile and sign. It worked and I could install it, etc., but I haven't messed around with making edits yet. Still willing to give it a shot, there's plenty of threads I could ask in if I run into trouble. It's something I've wanted to do for a while now, so yeah. Learning experience for us both. :good:
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Okay bet I'll send in right now
Jackson.Armstrong.Blow said:
Okay bet I'll send in right now
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Never got anything, did you send them?
Edit: Nevermind, I did. XDA labs is pretty bad about giving me notifications...
RoyJ said:
Never got anything, did you send them?
Edit: Nevermind, I did. XDA labs is pretty bad about giving me notifications...
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if he's on stock Android N, systemui should be odexed so you won't get all the source code from decompiling without deodexing the app first.
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I would like to get rid of as many LeEco apps as possible because I am convinced that they phone home and steal my personal data. Have you successfully installed any LeEco apps without triggering any issues and, if yes, please let me know the names of the system apps that can be safely uninstalled with an unintaller having root access.
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Does anyone know where I can download AOSP dialer/sms/contacts? Thanks.
Just replace the launcher, install Google Camera and disable the LeCloud services
-Tiz- said:
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I would like to get rid of as many LeEco apps as possible because I am convinced that they phone home and steal my personal data. Have you successfully installed any LeEco apps without triggering any issues and, if yes, please let me know the names of the system apps that can be safely uninstalled with an unintaller having root access.
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Does anyone know where I can download AOSP dialer/sms/contacts? Thanks.
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Sorry but lmao really. If you are sure they steal your data, why the hell did you buy the phone, i dont understand
Veidas said:
Sorry but lmao really. If you are sure they steal your data, why the hell did you buy the phone, i dont understand
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Why not? Hardware is good and phone is cheap. Once CM or a clean ROM is installed, the LeEco software doesn't matter. Do you understand or shall I explain in more detail. It's not really that complicated.
-Tiz- said:
Why not? Hardware is good and phone is cheap. Once CM or a clean ROM is installed, the LeEco software doesn't matter. Do you understand or shall I explain in more detail. It's not really that complicated.
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Dont be smartass for me buddy, im not the one unable to debloat a rom, so maybe i should explain it to you in more details? Its really not that complicated. For someone trying to teach me about custom roms you sure know little. Whats even more funny, is you acting like you know anything about leeco or their software stealing your data, then acting as if your personal data is reaaaally important to you, and then still buying the phone dispite it having zero development so far. Amusing, please continue
Veidas said:
Dont be smartass for me buddy, im not the one unable to debloat a rom, so maybe i should explain it to you in more details? Its really not that complicated. For someone trying to teach me about custom roms you sure know little. Whats even more funny, is you acting like you know anything about leeco or their software stealing your data, then acting as if your personal data is reaaaally important to you, and then still buying the phone dispite it having zero development so far. Amusing, please continue
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Sorry that I bruised your ego. You are a hero and to the god of custom roms for sure
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Sorry that I bruised your ego. You are a hero and to the god of custom roms for sure
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Lol, my ego has nothing to do with anything here. Its the way you are thinking, or the complete lack of logic. And ofcourse you resort to insults, when have nothing else clever to say.
If you are still sure leeco is stealing your data(which is complete nonsense and you have exactly zero facts to back you up) and you dont know how or what to delete(despite being so clever and knowning so much about custom roms) you could just block all leeco IP's in hosts file. Im sure being the pro you are, you know how to get these ip adresses and what hosts file is
Joms_US said:
Just replace the launcher, install Google Camera and disable the LeCloud services
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Thanks Joms. I already did and, moreover, I blocked LeeCo apps with a firewall. However, I would like to completely uninstall them and I am sure that other users want this, too.
In fact, I already did uninstall a few of them and - so far - I did not get any error messages. It might be nice to have a list of LeEco apps that can be safely uninstalled because there are so many of them.
Veidas said:
Lol, my ego has nothing to do with anything here. Its the way you are thinking, or the complete lack of logic. And ofcourse you resort to insults, when have nothing else clever to say.
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You laughed at me (re-read your first post) and now your are whining and complaining. I did not insult you at all. You did this all to yourself.
-Tiz- said:
You laughed at me (re-read your first post) and now your are whining and complaining. I did not insult you at all. You did this all to yourself.
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I laughed at your non existing logic, not you personally. And you did try to insult me with your smartass expressions and 100% sarcasm replies, which implies you were the one with hurt ego lol. And im not whining and not complaining, not sure what you are talking about lol. Anyways, not gonna waste my time (or yours) here anymore, goodluck fighting against SPYware lol
Veidas comes off as the ass in this scenario....
I used this app to uninstall most of the LeEco system apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=de It comes with a restore function.
I need to check in more detail/need a few more days in order to confirm that there are really no issues. (Uninstalling the dialer/contacts app was not a good idea though.)
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I used this app to uninstall most of the LeEco system apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=de It comes with a restore function.
I need to check in more detail/need a few more days in order to confirm that there are really no issues. (Uninstalling the dialer/contacts app was not a good idea though.)
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Hi Tiz
Do you see any clashes in rom after uninstalling system apps?
Hi!
If you want you can additionally add the LeEco servers to your hosts file to prevent that any app can contact them. I collected a list of all hostnames I found in the system applications and/or logcat in this posting here.
Additionally here a list of (system) apps I have disabled (via "pm disable") command:
Code:
[email protected] ~> adb shell pm list packages -d
package:com.letv.android.FuseWire
package:com.letv.android.quicksearchbox
package:com.letv.android.agent
package:com.letv.android.zxing
package:com.letv.android.account
package:com.letv.android.wallpaper
package:com.letv.android.wallpaperonline
package:com.letv.leui.sdk.data
package:com.letv.android.letvlive
package:com.lesports.glivesports
package:com.letv.android.note
package:com.le.android.webview
package:com.letv.android.usermanual
package:com.letv.letvshop
package:com.android.browser
package:com.le.share.zl1
package:com.letv.android.personalized
package:com.baidu.input_letv
package:com.letv.app.appstore
package:com.stv.stvpush
package:com.android.mms
package:com.letv.android.backup
package:com.letv.android.client
package:com.letv.android.setupwizard
package:com.android.calendar
package:com.letv.android.backupclient
package:com.letv.walletbiz
package:com.android.VRAdmin
package:com.letv.gallery3d.syncservice
package:com.lvr.wizzard
package:com.android.gallery3d
package:com.letv.agnes
package:com.letv.games
package:com.letv.wihd
package:com.letv.lesophoneclient
package:com.letv.android.fannation
package:com.letv.android.bugreporter
package:com.letv.android.accountinfo
package:com.letv.wallet
package:com.letv.android.filemanager
package:com.letv.android.cloudservice
package:com.android.music
package:sina.mobile.tianqitongletv
package:com.letv.android.videoplayer
package:com.sohu.inputmethod.sogou.leshi
The only limitation I noticed so far, is that the media control buttons (Previous/Play/Next) in the control center stop working, when you disable/remove the LeTv Music player (package name "com.android.music") because the buttons do not broadcast Android standard media Intents but instead LeEco-specifiic ones (which are only received by LeEco Music player which then performs the desired actions - even controlling 3rd party players).
I changed the behaviour of the media buttons with this Xposed module here: Xposed-module-EUI-MusicControls.
xsystem1 said:
Hi Tiz
Do you see any clashes in rom after uninstalling system apps?
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Not yet. (Except for the dialer/contacts app.) It's probably best to freeze apps first and take androchecks list as a guideline.
i dont understand why you suspect that the phone ( lepro3) steals your data? i have been using the phone for banking, share trading, etc, and i never found any issues. i also install a 360 antivirus on day 1 , and let it to run in the background to secure the phone. when i first bought the phone, it had customer rom 019s, when i first run 360 antivirus, there was one virus found. had it removed, since them, no more trouble. later i re-flashed the factory rom ( chinese version 018s), plus google play, etc. i have no issues at all. for those phone apps which you dont need them to access internet ( such as LeEco's apps) , you can also disable them from the phone's manager ( no access in both data and wifi). leEco is a company on stock list ( Hong Kong). i wont think it will risk its reputation adding some spywares in the phone. as it can be found easily. unless you have 3rd party app with virus....
can try
from here http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-711361-1-1.html
Based on the original system to streamline official 18s, first download the following unloader, showing sequential streamline my list is the same
Security system program uninstaller .apk 832.48 KB,
Open unloader, remove the hidden core application of the hook, and restart the unloader, the effect is as follows
cacimbo said:
from here http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-711361-1-1.html
Based on the original system to streamline official 18s, first download the following unloader, showing sequential streamline my list is the same
Security system program uninstaller .apk 832.48 KB,
Open unloader, remove the hidden core application of the hook, and restart the unloader, the effect is as follows
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Is this a debloater (does this remove all of the unnecessary apks that LeEco installs, and would probably release some ram)? Thanks for showing us this, I can only browse those forums with google translate, and that leaves a lot to be desired.
masterofstuff124 said:
Veidas comes off as the ass in this scenario....
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In only this scenario????
just ordered Le Eco S3, not the Pro, haven't received it yet, but do you need to have this phone rooted (is it even possible??) in order to disable/uninstall apps?