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Sudden hardresets with newer roms

Yesterday I've HSPL'd my leo.
Then I flashed the Dutty0.3v and thought everything was fine. Until this morning the device was unlocked with S2U2 and hung afterwards (not able to show manila page). After a softreset, device hung at white bootscreen (three red version lines bottom). Several softreset later, it actually lost all its settings, windows welcome center was welcoming me. So it did a hardreset.
Then I flashed another rom, the freyberryROM.V5.3. After flashing, I always hardreset the phone of course.
After two hours configuring and installing, all of a sudden some application weren't starting anymore, so I thought let's do a softreset, to see, if it fixes things. The same happened, device hung a bootscreen. After softreset, a hardreset occured again....
First I wanted to put the blame on the HSPL, but I think it was coincidence. But thinking over and over about my procedure and reading the dutty rom's thread, I think this has to do with S2U2. Maybe some of you experienced this as well, and we can put together what might be the culprit.
Details:
Using S2U2 v2.24 (video rawbuffer mode) - imported settings from reg-file.
Using T2Pro-Theme on SD-Card
Manila and every other HTC/WM setting concerning language set to German.
Hooked on Exchange2010 - Pushmail activated.
Somebody in Dutty's thread said, that those hard-resets get quite common with the newer ROMs, and it would help to flash a stock rom before, can somebody comment on this?
Thanks for any input!

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I have had the same too with my former Blackstone, as I flashed it with T2M PDViet, I thought it is a virus, however I solved it by downloading a new version and installed it all over again, good luck

Donald24 said:
Yesterday I've HSPL'd my leo.
Somebody in Dutty's thread said, that those hard-resets get quite common with the newer ROMs, and it would help to flash a stock rom before, can somebody comment on this?
Thanks for any input!
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We had to do this on all the WM6.5 cooked roms for Kaiser, not heard of it being required for HD2 yet, why not post this in the thread for the ROM you are using?

Before flashing another custom ROM, flash an official stock ROM (1.42/1.48).
I encountered these issues on my TytnII and this weekend, I got the same problem on the HD2. Flahing 1.48 WWE before flashing custom ROM solved the issue for me.
Also: flashing 2.xx ROMs using 1.42xxx SPL may result in unexpected issues.

tomasz said:
Before flashing another custom ROM, flash an official stock ROM (1.42/1.48).
I encountered these issues on my TytnII and this weekend, I got the same problem on the HD2. Flahing 1.48 WWE before flashing custom ROM solved the issue for me.
Also: flashing 2.xx ROMs using 1.42xxx SPL may result in unexpected issues.
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I've had this on my TytnII as well, but I never heard it for the HD2. So Custom to Custom ROM flashing is a NO GO?
?? Is there any other SPL? SSPL and HSPL are both 1.42 based....

In the diamond and other devices like tynt you could fix this with MTTY but dont know if it will work with the hd2

I thought MTTY was for recovering a device after a bad/interrupted flash??
Can you really use it to fix the non-boot situation and recover your installation?
So, when talking about stock-rom flashing is SoftSPL-flashing enough, or is a full HSPL- or even CID-ID-corresponding flash (incl. radio-rom) necessary?
Can somebody shed some technical background around this issue? I don't understand that there are mysterious areas, which don't get flashed and updated when flashing from custom to custom rom. There is no logic that this works for ONE flash ONLY.

Viewing this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1 , I think a task 32 in MTTY after flash must be a solution (official RUU seem to make it). But never tried.

xvx45 said:
Viewing this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1 , I think a task 32 in MTTY after flash must be a solution (official RUU seem to make it). But never tried.
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Nope, officially hardresetting a device is recommended after flashing custom rom, I even ran into these issues without hard-resetting after flash (actually forgot it) , so leaving it intentionally out won't fix it.

Are you using CustomRUU to flash your device. I'm sure I read somewhere that flashing from the MicroSD card can cause problems but can't remember what they were now....just a thought

Donald24 said:
Nope, officially hardresetting a device is recommended after flashing custom rom, I even ran into these issues without hard-resetting after flash (actually forgot it) , so leaving it intentionally out won't fix it.
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Ok, so, we have to found the "Format BINFS" task for HD2 bootloader. It's the command "task 29" on the Diamond (1) and the HD (BlackStone).
So for my experience on the Diamond, we have to do a task 29 before to flash to have a fully cleaned storage before write on this.
So I'ven't found any documentation on this for the HD2, I still investigate with IDA and original RUU, but it's my first attempt to decompile a soft...and it's not really easy to understand.
So we need people with two phone and able to practice JTAG to test a task 29 on Leo bootloader without risk to brick it...and it's not my case.
ps : sorry for my poor English.

crazyman1 said:
Are you using CustomRUU to flash your device. I'm sure I read somewhere that flashing from the MicroSD card can cause problems but can't remember what they were now....just a thought
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It's not the flashing, me thinks. I experienced the issues only after flashing from custom TO custom rom. So I just think, it's like to old KAISER's times:
Always flash stock rom before!

Has anyone else noticed this?
I've never flashed a stock rom between custom roms and never had any lock up problems. I always use sspl or customRUU. Just thinking it might be the way you're flashing as I'm sure I read somewhere on the forum that there were problems with flashing from the MicroSD card.

xvx45 said:
Ok, so, we have to found the "Format BINFS" task for HD2 bootloader. It's the command "task 29" on the Diamond (1) and the HD (BlackStone).
So for my experience on the Diamond, we have to do a task 29 before to flash to have a fully cleaned storage before write on this.
So I'ven't found any documentation on this for the HD2, I still investigate with IDA and original RUU, but it's my first attempt to decompile a soft...and it's not really easy to understand.
So we need people with two phone and able to practice JTAG to test a task 29 on Leo bootloader without risk to brick it...and it's not my case.
ps : sorry for my poor English.
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I am absolute unfamiliar with this tasks you do with the RUU....
So task 29 did solve any "leftovers" and freaky behaviour on a diamond?

Donald24 said:
I am absolute unfamiliar with this tasks you do with the RUU....
So task 29 did solve any "leftovers" and freaky behaviour on a diamond?
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yup, diamond, hd, tynt and i think all htc devices... but nobody have tryed with the hd2... be carefull if you try but i think there shouldnt be any problem.. anyways at your risk

makeveral said:
yup, diamond, hd, tynt and i think all htc devices... but nobody have tryed with the hd2... be carefull if you try but i think there shouldnt be any problem.. anyways at your risk
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hey - we're getting closer. thinking about a sub-forum about flashing techniques, they will surely get device-dependant at some point.
if a call of task 29 would not make any problems, should it not be made and considered as standard for custom flashing?
did ever anybody brick his device with it? there must be something, causing that fear...
nobody on xda normally shows this respect for trying out undocumented functions

Donald24 said:
hey - we're getting closer.
if a call of task 29 would not make any problems, should it not be made and considered as standard for custom flashing?
did ever anybody brick his device with it? there must be something, causing that respect
nobody on xda normally shows this respect for trying out undocumented functions
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ya some people have bricked his device because of this... but well it can usually get fixed! problem was that they used mtty without having a hardspl and then they couldnt flash any rom... but if you have hardspl then no problem because you can flash from bootloader!
And if you dont have hardspl then you should also be able to flash HTc official rom(or the official rom that came with your device)
Anyways i wouldnt be first one to try it on my hd2 xD (only if i had problems)

makeveral said:
Anyways i wouldnt be first one to try it on my hd2 xD (only if i had problems)
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Why hesitating? I'd love to see a "call task 29" as a menu item in your BSB tool I woke up this morning, and I felt for yelling "Task 29" to my girlfriend. No, to be honest, I didn't, I said "69" and enjoyed the morning.
I am going to try this method out and report back, but as it seems, it will be seen as a hack, that doesn't fit for everybody. But I would prefer this against always preloading a stock rom, if it would do the job.
Thanks for putting light on this!

Donald24 said:
Somebody in Dutty's thread said, that those hard-resets get quite common with the newer ROMs, and it would help to flash a stock rom before, can somebody comment on this?
Thanks for any input!
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Hi,
this is correct, you can stop this happening by flashing a OFFICIAL rom before your cooked rom.
Although i have just posted a thread on MTTY, which is the EXACT answer to all problems in this thread.
THREAD HERE - (It is Under Construction so please dont use until the big red warning has gone, you cant miss it!!)
MG

I was having the same exact problems with softspl and hardspl and with any custom rom. My cousin has the same issues too. I flashed back to stock 1.61 and dont have hardresets anymore.

I still haven't flashed a cooked rom and not sure if I will. Anyone else?

I have upgraded my orginal rom to offical roms such as 1.48 and the latest 1.61. I really want to try a cooked rom (which I did many a time on my Blackstone which I have sold), but other than wanting the Documents tab which I would find very useful for me.... well I just am not sure if flashing cooked roms are a good idea.
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
I just read in the Leo Rom forums that when you flash roms of different sizes it can leave residule files behind in the rom which can make the phone unstable or sluggish.
I so want to try a new rom and every time I see an updated cooked rom in the rom thread I aways go to the last posts and still read of some problems some users have which puts me off.
I am not degrading the wonderful lengthy work these rom cookers do but I think I am happy enough with my phone with official roms. I just wish I could add in a documents tab without having to flash the entire rom.
Also why is it that the phone is super fast after a hard reset and as soon as you start installing stuff it becomes less so? Shame really. I am thinking one day to try the phone with no third party apps just to see if the speed stays the same. However, that is defeating the whole purpose of the phone about not installing apps.
Rant over

Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.

I'm not going to flash a new rom until I'm looking around for a new phone. Then I might try to dash in some new roms, but untill then I'm rolling stock all the way

Shasarak said:
Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.
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do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...

josep54 said:
do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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My phone is on vodafone but I got the phone from Phones4u does this mean it's branded to vodafone? Also if this is the case that it will void my warranty I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one

Jammie_1989 said:
I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one
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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable

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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable
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lol I know but think is how are they ever going to find out as long as your not posting on forums saying 'I've done this' lol they will be none the wiser. Serves them right for offering insurance to people who are on the sh*test network going lol. Wish I could have got mine on a different network but apparently as it's from phones4u I already have the 1.48 rom and can upgrade straight from HTC woohooo

josep54 said:
do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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Flashing an official ROM through the PC won't overwrite the hspl, flashing an official ROM via sd card WILL overwrite the HSPL.
You should read the HSPL thread, it talks about uninstalling hspl half way down the first post.

tboy2000 said:
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
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This decrease in speed has to do with you installing apps and the registry gets filled up and through the installing and uninstalling of things, things slow down as the rom gets fragmented just look your computer. This is why overall performance decreases and not primarily because of flashing.
Another reason that the device can all of a sudden perform worse is also due to the different builds out there. They all have difference strengths and weakness. Some are more fast and some of them are more stable. The device itself does not mutate however I'm sure over 1000 flashes, there is a natural wear and tear. Most of us are no where near that.
Wait for your providers to provide stock upgrades so that reverting to stock is possible. I know quite a few members don't have any stock roms to fail back on. That would be the only reason not to flash a cooked rom.
Happy flashing people...!!

Custom ROM Questions

I have had my HD2 for a month now. Been running the stock 1.48 ROM with all the tweaks and fixes from XDA. Everything works great. The newer 1.66 ROM has just been released in my country (I'm in South Africa, things are a bit behind here), and i was thinking of either flashing the stock or a custom ROM.
I've read on these forums from a fair number of people who claim that cooked ROMS are inherently unstable and suffer from random freezes.
Is there any truth to this. I was running Sakajati's Hyperdragon ROMS on my old Kasier, and they were 100% stable.
Or is the instability a result of multiple ROM flashes without using the MTTY process?
Thanks for your help.

I'd say run the stock 1.66 ROM and see how you get on, it might be fine with a few tweaks. After that, look into custom ROMs if you feel you need one

Hi Eddy.
Thanks for the reply.
I'll give the stock 1.66 a go.

was thinking of changing the original rom
which custom rom should i go for need advice

adamo86 said:
which custom rom should i go for need advice
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it really depends on your needs and deires... the only thing you can do is look through the various ROMs and then choose one that suits you or that you like... if its not what you want then change it...

I have been looking at a lot of ROMS, have not tried any yet.
I think i will probably go with Laurentius Ultimate power. I like the fact that his ROM includes a Radio, and he also does a lot of beta testing before releasing a ROM.
I've just flashed stock 1.66, will try that for a while. Then go the cooked route.

Duttys HG series are very good, using it at the moment (WinMo 6.5-style as I hate the new new buttons) - link is in my sig for those interested

from my personal experience i can tell you the best custom roms are faster, more stable and also have extra features that make them more fun compared to stock. but for this to happen you need to be careful with your flashing method.there is an excellent thread in the 1st page of the ROM development forum which i recommend you study thoroughly before attempting your first custom flash. also, remember to always flash a stock ROM in between 2 customs (or use mtty) and always hard reset the phone after the 1st boot. roms are also radio sensitive so you might also have to flash different radios to obtain the best combination. perhaps it sounds a little complicated but it's not really and definetely worth to try.
cheers mate and have fun!

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If u r looking for stable rom, try 6.5 rom, not 6.5.x.
6.5.x roms is more finger friendly but contain more bugs than 6.5
Try Miri's rom or Xanny's rom. I used both and satisfied with both

Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2

Savage-wp said:
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
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glad to help mate. i'm not a flash addict (just yet ) so i tried only roms from the notorious chefs - dutty, laurentius, xannytech, energy, etc. i wasn't disappointed by any of them, all are very good but each is different in its own way. my favorite is artemis (from sternas) because i find it closest to my needs - leo only packages, close to stock, essential addons and of course great, great performance. i recommend you try a few yourself so you can decide which is best for you.

To flash or not to flash - that is the question

Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David

for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.

i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .

i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.

as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.

As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.

Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!

dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!

flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!

i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation

I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...

dio62000 said:
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.

Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?

dio62000 said:
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.

Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).

so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
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it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.

Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.

hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?

samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.

How Do I Change the Radio ROM?

i got static on my hd2 when i make calls. it was suggested that i change the radio rom to hopefully eliminate the static. i've never modded an hd2 phone before. i got a stock 6.5 on it. i hope its possible to change the radio rom without modding the stock 6.5. how do i change the radio rom? what are the steps?
i ask ONLY serious ppl to reply, no trolls or negative ppl.

You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.

*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.

samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
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Shame on you Sam

samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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listen, stop f***ing harassing me already!!! no one has an attitude, the only one with it is you! you harassed me on the other thread and youre on the verge of getting banned on this one!! get off my thread!!

T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. good to hear from u again. ok, i read your message on my other thread. below are my current specs. but honestly, this phone shouldnt make any static calls whatsoever. its brand new. it should make CLEAR calls right out the box and i shouldnt have to flash it with any roms as a result.
os version: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
manila version: 2.5.20181424.0
rom version: 3.14.531.1 (04666) WWE
rom date : 9/29/10
radio version: 2.15.50.14
protocal version: 15.42.50.11W
it looks like i got the most current version of the radio and stock rom.
but to be honest, all this flashing sounds risky and complicated. i already owned TWO hd2s and they gave the same static. i sent the 1st one to htc for repair TWICE and it came back unrepaired. i bought a 2nd hd2 and it had the SAME static. at this point, i cant beleive that any hd2s are static free. are you guys sure u dont have static everytime someone talks on a call?
also, this loser, samsamuel, is harassing me and i dont know why!! i STRONGY urge u to ban this guy from my thread and any of my future threads. he harassed me in my prior thread and hes creating problems on this one.

Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.

lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers

samsamuel said:
Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
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T-Macgnolia i'll be sending you a private message about this troll.. please read.

ASCIIker said:
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
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i dont want your help.. dont comment on my thread anymore.

Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers

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Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.

koolxx said:
hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
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Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
I assume since you said it was a prepaid card you do have your HD2 SIM unlocked, Ialso know you-know-what what SIzm unlocking is as you talked about it in the first thread I seen you in.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.

T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS so that i can install the right radio ROM on it? I want one that looks exactly like WM 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.

T-Macgnolia said:
Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
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Oh wow, sorry T-Macgnolia. i failed to see your last reply to me before I sent you my last post to you. i havent tried a different radio ROM yet becuz i need your advice on that before i proceed. can you please read my last post to you concerning the steps and installation of radio ROMS? I'd HUGELY appreciate it. as a reminder, i got a locked TMOUS phone.
I'll await your reply.. thanks again man!!.

koolxx said:
Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS? I want one that looks exactly like WP 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
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Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Looking at the download folder you will find two core versions of my ROM.
* The 21916 Build which is the most reliable and bug free release. It has the Start menu button at the top left corner! I recommend you start with this first!
This is the number for the closest to stock ROMs when you go to the download link.
* The 29017 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.X series with the Start menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys. These builds are not as stable or perfect, but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft. These are also much more finger friendly throughout.
This is number for the ROMs that are a little more modified but still close to stock if you use the ROMs I suggested.
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Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.

T-Macgnolia said:
Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.

koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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WM6.5 Stock uses an older Windows Mobile Build.. Build 6.5.3 I believe was the when it started to be more finger friendly and in turn has the larger buttons.. So if you like how the older build looks then look for roms that have that version of WM6.5
Look in the WM6.5 Themes you might find something you like
As for Battery Life.. It all depends many factors... Some say the latest Radio has a higher battery usage while others say the complete opposite.. You must check which combination of Radio/ROM fits your location the best and if the battery is decent enough to stick with.. That why most people start out thinking they wont flash roms, but once they start having problems or want better performace they change their mind

koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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21916 will give you start menu in the top left corner without the big ugly softkeys... thats the other build number.
It only shows that in the pic as it seems to be the most popular version.
Battery life with energy roms tends be less than some other roms as they are optimised for speed. Battery life is by no means bad though. You should still be able to make it through a full day without worrying about running out of juice. That said, there are other roms which will give you better battery life if this is a huge issue for you.
Also, not sure if this has been mentioned yet but when trying out different radios its apparently a good idea to test it out for at least 48hrs before you decide if its making a difference or not.....

Yes koolxx as canantroutman posted the 21916 ROM will give you the same soft keys at the bottom and the same start key at the top like the stock ROMs do.The ROM you like the Reference ROM is based of the latest stock ROM so yes it is the latest ROM. So far as battery life goes I can not give any first hand feed back on this as AI have not used that ROM. What I can do though is refer you to member facdemol's "Various ROMs power consumption" thread, link is below. If you go and read his first post you can see from his test resoults that all ROMs use just about the same power as far as power consumption goes, but he does say that all around the Energy ROM does best on power consumption. Go check the thread out it is a very informative thread and project he is working on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018833