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The Russians are testing SPB Mobile Shell 3.0

This is RC. Screenshots

Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.

cool but nomore widgets?

we all are trying it lol. and yes there still is widgets.
probs so far.
- it conficts with touchflo 3d
- no box to deselect in home plugin menu
- finger scrolling working ok but could be a lot better
- no panel included in the cab install like there weather and travel software (i have a x1)
- uses a lot of wm stuff instead of there own software (eg, clock, sms, alarms, calender etc). not really a prob but would have prefered if they used the own software (jaze it up a little.

cktlcmd said:
Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.
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This theme?

cktlcmd said:
Actually, the entire world is. It was leaked to the public.
I saw a link of an all black theme for it, now I can't find it.
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there is a section in the program/settings menu called themes, black theme is in there but looks the same as having no theme

Installed this morning, loving it, does gradually hog the resources the more you do, but I guess the official version will be sorted, will definitely buy this, if there is only one bit of software you buy for your PPC, this is it..10 out of 10 from me.
Beats TF3D and SPB mobile shell 2 hands down.

to each their own, i installed the 'trial' and have to say that i got very disappointed; i used the v2 for a long time before i got my xperia and i loved it; now that i've seen the v3 it's uglier and less intuitive, i say no to that and stick to my tf3d which in general is also much smoother than this;
yark and blah...

Is WM6.5 worth an upgrade?

This question has been bothering me for a while now as there is nothing wrong with my current build rom with 6.1. I have been wondering if it is worth upgrading to 6.5 (apart from testing/ hassle of reinstalling all my applications).
Apart from the UI change are there any other noticable differences worth the upgrade? Would you say the 6.5 brings new life to the device (because of the UI) or are there other changes such as the way it manages the battery, gps etc.
I hear there is a small performance hit but that is understandable to power all the new ui but apart from that the new cooked up roms are pretty much there in terms of a near perfect rom.

The only things I noticed and found useful are better finger-scrolling (however, I can't select or drag&drop icons in Total commander when scrollbar is visible) and larger menus. No big changes, still "just Windows mobile".

Just like with any software upgrade, generally it's worth it - you get new features and bugfixes, etc... Likewise, the downside is higher resource utilization and new bugs What's of more value in your universe?
The answer is... 47.
You'll have to try it and then you'll find an answer that you may like better.

No!
The answer is 42!!!
Know the facts...

i think i know exactly what you mean, oh well i will have a look tonight at the 6.5 roms and see what has been cooked up. Who knows i may like it.
Does the touchflo work on 6.5 or does it use the default windows system?

A|ex said:
i think i know exactly what you mean, oh well i will have a look tonight at the 6.5 roms and see what has been cooked up. Who knows i may like it.
Does the touchflo work on 6.5 or does it use the default windows system?
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I think that Duttys 6.5 ROM includes TF3D 2.5 - the latest - but don't quote me.

TF3D (ver 2.0 and 2.1) works with WM 6.5. if you don't want/like TF3D, there are several cooked ROMs that exclude TF3D.

Definately flash this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524032, i did a couple of months ago and been updating regularly, the speed difference is awesome.

I have had major issues with battery life since I upgraded to the new SPL and WM 6.5.
I have noticed no less than a 40% decrease in battery life standby and talk time.
I have tried to go back to wm6.1 but still have the same issue so maybe its something to do with the SPL level?
Is there an easy way to go back to the original factory load? (warranty load)
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i think the 6.5 interface is awful, with icons spread all over the place. Not clean at all. i think its a step backwards. dutty 3.9 is my fav rom

I tried it out last night for a few hours and i have to say with the HTC touch flo and other things there is not much difference really to make me want to stick with 6.5. Ok there is a new menu system and the windows have a little ui improvement. Other than that its all the same + with the new bugs that xda devs are dealing with.
I am too going to stick with 6.1 as its been out longer and more bugs have been ironed out.
If it had some worth while features apart from ui i would give it a longer try and post bugs to chefs etc but its hard to test and continue using my phone, especially when i use constantly for call, txt, email,web and gps. It takes ages to reinstall all my apps and apply config.

i say it is worth it....... i hav the energyrom which in my own opinion is the best...... energyrom 6.5 with titunium

The only interest would be to access the "settings" menu in 2 clicks.
But I hate titanium and their ugly honeycomb menus.
I stay on Manila.
So for me : no interest.

i tried it and got a little confused with the menus as i did not know where anything was, the new menu system is also finger friendly but a sure waste of space.

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i think the 6.5 interface is awful, with icons spread all over the place. Not clean at all. i think its a step backwards. dutty 3.9 is my fav rom
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I agree, step backward's,like it's been changed,just for changes sake.

But you can organize them, using reSTART or do it manually

Ok then,an organized bunch of icon's all over the place.
6.5 seems to me,to be trying to appeal to both finger and stylus camp's,and doing neither particularly well.......TF3D on 6.1 is far better compromise for finger and stylus imo.
I use WM because I like the vastly larger amount of info that can be viewed and used on screen that stylus use afford's,bloating the size of menu's for finger use like in the app drop down menu's so that I have to scroll to find what I want and move twice as far up the screen because of the oversized space's,is not what I want....thus backward's step for me.

There's also a CAB makes the menu smaller too.

No doubt,probably will be one to give back the list start menu also.......question is "is WM6.5 worth the upgrade"
If they had gone back to pre WM5 volatile storage,and sped it up 50% it would for me,as it stand's,it's just the same 6.1/6/5 OS with a few more changes

Is there a way to change the start menu in wm6.5 back to 6.1 style? I like the scrolling and a few little effects but apart from the ui i do not see it worthwhile.
Its good to have something new and playwith but from the roms being released, the bugs still need to be ironed out.

Which UI do you prefer?

Just wanted to gauge what everyone's thoughts were about which UI they prefer the most now that there are so many options.
Which do you prefer using out of the below:
TF3D
TF3D2
Titanium
Point UI
SPB Mobile Shell

Voted for TF3D even tho I haven't tested any of the other, but I've seen youtube videos.

Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.
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It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.

tf3d2, love new calendar, and dipper manila

supersanj said:
It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.
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It doesn't matter if it hasn't been ported to the diamond..All I know is that Sense UI is the best UI out there. Just my two cents.

Wich UI do you prefer?
I would say PointUI Pro with the Sense UI themes and applets, works like a charm, feels smooth and lag free.

SPB Mobile Shell 3

SPB shell is the best for me, better than manilla, it can be configured like you want and everything it is very accesible and finger friendly.

Using titanium right now. But can't wait when HTC releases sense ui for winmo.
Also looking for good port of sense ui for now, which one you using CraZyLiLbOy ?

voted TF3D2 now it's very usable also with the "old" diamond
PointUI is really nice but wastes too much memory
SPB Shell isn't free

I really like SPB shell is the best.
Its finger friendly, customisable and easy to use.

I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!

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I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!
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Im with you on that one Trident. Can't wait for the Diamond Dev's to port it over

I feel all the new UIs are memory hungry, so use the old school Touch Home screen, got everything you need, and still room to fit a couple of home plugin's on the today screen, and it runs so much quicker than anything else I've tried (and I've tried them all)

does anyone knows where to find old school htc today for vga screen?
found couple htc today, but icons are too smal at vga screen.

This is the one I use, works fine both portrait and landscape.
Upload didn't work, here you :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5P18BXUV

I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU

matrix77 said:
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
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Agreed. Everything is so much easier with it. You dont even have to use the start menu if you configure it properly.

SPB mobile shell is well worth the $30

SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and choosing the right ROM

Done a little bit of searching but can't seem to find an answer to this question.
I've already flashed to HSPL and basically I'm now looking for a stable leaked or cooked ROM that works well with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 on my HTC HD2. A WM 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 version is preferred so that its possible to get the taskbar, start menu, etc altered to the way I'd like it, as that doesn't appear to be possible with the bog standard 6.5 release I think?
Does anyone have any suggestions or use a leaked/cooked ROM with SPB 3.5 with no major issues?
Many thanks.

All versions of spb have been power sapping in my experience so I wouldn't recommend any.

Anyone?
I've seen some videos on YouTube etc where people are using 6.5.3 on SPB 3.5 but they don't mention the actual rom.
Some info would be helpful as I don't want to have to test numerous roms or potentially harm my phone.

you will have to test it yourself by the looks, i would have thought the cooked rom wouldnt an the issue

I've tested SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 with most of my earlier custom ROMs and never had any problems. To be honest though I've fallen out of love with it: some aspects such as the contacts list are really ugly compared with Sense, and there is a lot of superfluous iconage that you can't hide or remove...it seems very cluttered and clunky since I've gotten used to Sense. I did notice a performance hit when using SPB as opposed to Sense too.
Out of interest, what is it that you prefer about SPB? I found that the only reason I was persevering in the end was because I had paid for the software!

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I've tested SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 with most of my earlier custom ROMs and never had any problems. To be honest though I've fallen out of love with it: some aspects such as the contacts list are really ugly compared with Sense, and there is a lot of superfluous iconage that you can't hide or remove...it seems very cluttered and clunky since I've gotten used to Sense. I did notice a performance hit when using SPB as opposed to Sense too.
Out of interest, what is it that you prefer about SPB? I found that the only reason I was persevering in the end was because I had paid for the software!
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The level of customization possible with SPB Shell 3.5 (together with Mskip ultimate) puts this interface light years ahead of SENSE in terms of functionality.

I understand that there are customisation options that Sense doesn't have but what exactly do they give you in terms of day-to-day usablilty?
I'm not criticizing your preference, I'm just interested as I find the simplicity of Sense to be deceptive as in terms of raw USABILITY it offers just as quick access to core functions as SPB but also FEELS nice. Many of the functions of SPB seem a little too showy and slightly pointless - like the spinning cylinder thing - and there is no way to remove the icons that lead to them. Maybe I should try SPB again but...Hmm well it just seems a little out of date, and I'm not keen on those Androidy cartoon icons that Mskip offers
Looking forward to V5 coming out though, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.

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Many of the functions of SPB seem a little too showy and slightly pointless - like the spinning cylinder thing - and there is no way to remove the icons that lead to them.
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True, but the idiotic cylinder is the only idiotic feature you can't disable in SPB.
Maybe I should try SPB again but...Hmm well it just seems a little out of date, and I'm not keen on those Androidy cartoon icons that Mskip offers.
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For me, Mskip is nothing about cartoonish icons, rather it gives me the ability to get rid of the lower bottom bar which originally links to things I don't need. Also, it gives me to use invisible icons, which I use on top of widgets to gain extra functionality.
I understand that there are customisation options that Sense doesn't have but what exactly do they give you in terms of day-to-day usablilty?
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In terms of day to day usability, well, let's take the main screen. In SENSE, a huge part of it is taken by a useless clock, you also can't watch more than 1 appointment (and even with the recent extension to watch more, you still need to slide your finder to see more than 1), you also can't see your tasks at all. In my main screen I have a preview of several appointments and tasks with very functional widgets. I've customized it using an invisible icon so that clicking on the appointments widget takes me directly to Thumbcall's "make new appointment" link, and the same for tasks. I also get mail/sms/missed phone call/voicemail notification on the main screen using widgets.
After some tweaking, SPB Shell 3.5 feels like a glove on your hand, yet with the SENSE UI I never get this feeling, it's more cumbersome and things aren't exactly where I want them to be. Also, I hate the stupid swipe in order to switch between tabs, it's slow and inaccurate.
Looking forward to V5 coming out though, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
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Please don't, V5 offers nothing above V3.5, apart from some nice 3D effects. It really should have gotten a V3.6 mark (But "5" is simply stupid).

The reason they skipped ahead to 5 is something to do with the number "4" being unlucky in eastern countries, or so I've read.
I got pulled in and paid for 3.5 after seeing seeing some HTC HD2 devices on youtube with different themes using its shell. But I am eagerly awaiting SPB MS 5 myself as I am a sucker for eyecandy with the ability to have as much custimization as possible a big plus in my eyes. It's a matter of taste.
All this aside I've been trying numerous 6.5.x roms and I have yet to find one that does not have some glitch somewhere or work seamlessly with SPB 3.5.
So again, if anyone out there is using a cooked rom that is 6.5.3 onwards with SPB 3.5 with little trouble, I'd be greatful to know which one.

i have used spb 3.5 withe the miri xtra light roms. currently on 5.1 but will be flashing 5.2 tonight. only one from the range i have had issues wih is 5.1. hope that

I'm using Leo Lite V2.5 ROM with SPB Shell 3.5 and have no problems...
What problems are you talking about ?

Spb 3.5 problems resolved
HI , I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM ON MY HTC HD2 A FEW DAYS AGO ND I RESOLVE WITH THIS PROGRAM (PocketShield_Setup) IS A LOCK AND UNLOCK APP. AND U CAN CHOSE MANY FUCTION ON HOW TO LOCK OR UNLOCK UR DIVICE AND ONE OF THOSE FUNCTIONS GIVES U THE OPORTUNITY TO EVERY TIME THAT U UNLOCK YOUR HD2 WILL TAKE U BACK TO THE ORIGINAL HTC SENSE SCREEN WITH ALL THE SETTINGS WORKING AND BACK TO UR MB 3.5 IF UR WANT WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
I HOPE THIS HELP U AND SORRY FOR MY INGLISH

Who else likes spb shell?

I love it, if you havent seen or heard of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGrfQ7IKGBs&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/

I use it exclusively. From an ease of use and efficiency standpoint I find it far superior to the HTC Sense interface. Admittedly, the eye candy isn't as nice as Sense, but that is not my priority. I have yet to find a better "search" screen for my contacts than the one included in the Mobile Shell.
My only two big issues with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is that I can only have 1 location for Weather and that it doesn't have a stock ticker screen built in. If you have a solution for those two issues, please let me know.
Andrew

been using SPB shell too. Lets just put it this way the phone lasted 2 days before I flashed it with Kumars and that lasted 5 days before i put SPB on and I have had that on for the last week and have not intention of changing it

do you think you could help me with installing this on my HD2, I.e the file for it and how to install it. Thank you

SBP V.5
I like SPB Shell V.5 coming soon

does anyone have the full cab file they could give me for SPB shell

Free 15 day full version demo available @ www.spbsoftwarehouse.com.

i see, so it must not be a cab file that is circulated around.

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i see, so it must not be a cab file that is circulated around.
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Nah, it's a commercial product that continues to evolve.
I'm guessing you weren't asking for a cracked version, since I am sure you know that's against the forum rules
I love this shell. I run it exclusively on my Wing, thanks to Tribulattifather over at "[ROM]TribShell WM6.5.5[SD Version Build 23545][26.20MB Prog Mem | 71.40MB Stor Mem]"
Yeah, I said "Wing". It runs just fine on stripped-down versions of 23545, despite the RAM limitations of the device.
I still haven't gotten over the "newness" of my HD2 yet, so I'm not running it here, but I may in the future. Right now, I really enjoy the Weather Home and other fancy bits like landscaped SMS that just wouldn't work on SPB Home.
Give me a few more weeks and I'll probably jump over, especially now that they have that sweet WinPho7 skin

i just installed the trial version, and its defiantely different. i think im just gonna leave it setup factory for now, i really like the weather info on the factory theme.

I'm just holding out, that is until SPBMS v5.0 is OFFICIALLY released by SPB Software.
v3.5 is excellent, but not worth disabling Sense, in my opinion. In fact, I rather prefer the look of Titanium over standardized Mobile Shell. Then again, you can theme the HELL out of Mobile Shell, make it look pretty snazzy. LOL!

So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?

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So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?
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SPB Software told mobile news and blog sites that we could expect to see the official release sometime during Q4 of 2010.

i probably wont even have this phone by then LOL, i go through Phones like crazy! Just sold my nexus one though, kinda wish i woulda kept it.

i'm using the full version right now with hero sense mobile ui theme installed on top of it. phone runs much more smooth then ever before. however, nothing beats the beauty of the stock hero sense ui. right now, im taking performance over looks tho
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I love it, if you havent seen or heard of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGrfQ7IKGBs&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
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ryan562 said:
i'm using the full version right now with hero sense mobile ui theme installed on top of it. phone runs much more smooth then ever before. however, nothing beats the beauty of the stock hero sense ui. right now, im taking performance over looks tho
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Hey, you got a link to that hero sense theme? I really like spb shell too.

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So with shell you cant use landscape mode in any programs then? It seems like there is a ton of different style themes you can change with it though. I just dont get how the trial version works, does it have everything the full version does and does your phone just reboot to normal after the 15 days then? When is the new version expected to be released?
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SPB Mobile Shell does not preclude running any apps in landscape mode - all apps work the same as before. The trial version is fully functional for 15 days after which it will prompt you to register and lock some functions of the shell. You can uninstall and reboot and your phone will function the same as before you ever install the Mobile Shell.

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i just installed the trial version, and its defiantely different. i think im just gonna leave it setup factory for now, i really like the weather info on the factory theme.
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Although not as fancy as the Sense software, you do realize you can customize SPB Mobile Shell to put a weather widget on the home screen? I have mine set this way and it gives me an icon for sunny/cloudy/rainy and hi/lo temperature . . . the widget is active so if I single tap it it will bring me to a more detailed weather screen showing hour by hour and day by day weather info for 5 days.
Andrew

Once u install spb shell....are u to disable htc sense....or do u disable it before the install.....

Snarksneeze said:
I still haven't gotten over the "newness" of my HD2 yet, so I'm not running it here, but I may in the future. Right now, I really enjoy the Weather Home and other fancy bits like landscaped SMS that just wouldn't work on SPB Home.
Give me a few more weeks and I'll probably jump over, especially now that they have that sweet WinPho7 skin
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What do you mean by landscape SMS not working when I am in the my SMS client i can turn it and it switches to a landscape mode