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Best Task Manager for Galaxy S (Sorry if this has been posted before)

Hi guys,
Sorry if this has been posted before, i searched for it, and couldnt find a decent reply to what I was looking for. I also googled it, and it only came up with results that were either outdated, or not very helpful.
Can you guys here tell me what kind of task manager you're using? And whats good/not good about it?
I am currently using TaskPanel. I've tried advanced task killer, and android system info (something along those lines) and found TaskPanel to be the best and simplest to use so far.
Thanks!

You don't really need a task manager app.
Read this http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
The key part is: "applications may seem present to the user without an actual process currently running the app; multiple applications may share processes, or one application may make use of multiple processes depending on its needs; the process(es) of an application may be kept around by Android even when that application is not actively doing"
This means that the taskmanagers can't properly manage the running apps. Also, android has a built in task manager, which should keep the running apps in check, and close any if more memory is needed

qakgob said:
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This means that the taskmanagers can't properly manage the running apps. Also, android has a built in task manager, which should keep the running apps in check, and close any if more memory is needed
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Thats correct, but some oif the Apps are not good implemented and the Android build in Task Manger isn't able to control them complete. So there is a smal need for a Taskmanager in Android also, yust use it carefully and do not use any AutoKill features or Apps.
Regards
Christopher

I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.

best solution... Reboot the S boots in like 30 secs anyways..

bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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sounds good! I will give it a try someday, but i'll need to root my device.
I know this is off-topic, but is rooting risky?? I come from a Samsung i900 omnia, and flashing that device could mean instant brick, rendering the device completely useless, i don't want that happening to my GS.
cheers!

When i had the Desire i didnt require any killer apps. But with the Galaxy S n the lag/blackout issues i needed to install task killers coz it was getting really really slow. I now have Auto Memory Manager installed which does a decent job.
Come on Samsung, show the world that u do care about your customers. The world is watching....

Autokiller is very good!
bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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Autokiller is very very good! I used to use the advanced task killer and set to auto-kill in crazy mode everytime screen is off. But even then, memory drops very fast to 30+ mb in less than 1 day of usage, with no other processes running. Yesterday I switched to autokiller and memory from morning till now never drops below 110mb! Phone feels and behaves alot snappier!

autokiller
bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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+1
first tried different task managers, but it doesn't work as good as the internal one

***AutoKiller memory optimizer***

This is a well ranked application on free android market!
It's so nice; it uses android way to kill applications not task killers!
Those are 2 threads on it:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645539
Did someone tried it on any android build?!
Coz i tried it on my phone with the "Ultimate" preset (which must kill applications when RAM goes less than 250MB but i'm not seeing any change!?!
Thx

What this application does is tweak froyo's ability to kill task when needed. If it see's no reason to kill the task it wont.
Further more seeting autokiller to aggressive will cause it to kill forground apps such as the clock or the market.
These things have no bearing on the performances of android and should be left alone.

what settings are you guys using now for this app
im currently on AGRESSIVE and seeing little difference, LOL

I run it on Optimum. Which isn't that far off the default values for Desire HD.

I was running it with fairly good results on my Evo with FreshEVO. Now I am running MIUI and for some reason it always resets to straight zeros. Does anyone have an idea if this is a fixable issue?

[Q] Are task killers safe for your phone?

I've read some posts and people said they are killing more battery.Other people said that they're good.So are they safe for your phone,or they can harm it.
I've used task killers since I got my phone and hadn't got a problem.

I found the answer by myself:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
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panoramixus said:
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
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I got rid of my task killer.I will provide some feedback after some use.Thanks for the reply by the way.

its good n safe if u use it wisely
i ever killed a running system n my phone become frozen

I've been using AutoKiller Memory Optimiser which utilises presets and works well with rooted phones.

i think not

Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.

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MegaBubbletea said:
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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Thanks for your reply.I also think that they aren't necessary.In the link above I read that task killers are dangerous for your phone.They are slowly killing your CPU and after some time the phone may start to crash.

Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"

I personally don't use them on my phone, but on my tablet, I use them as it can get very slow without it.

Haque92 said:
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
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I also thought that they were great,but after doing some research I decided to remove my task killer.My phone is working as smooth as before.But that's just me.

[Q] What takes up so much RAM?

Hi,
i just bought an Ideos x5 and it's great.
I've loaded most of the usuall stuff including task manager.
Now i found that on average my free memory when i'm not using so much apps is around 180(that's how much free RAM i have).
Is this normal..i mean...the thing says it has 512 mb of RAM.
Sorry for beeing a noob..
Van

its said 128MB go to the GPU, 32MB are used by android system, which leaves about 352MB (353MB as shown in Elixir) for application use..
and then those google apps (Maps, Search, Market, etc.) all take up RAM in the background, plus other background apps you have installed and widgets you have enabled..
on average i usually have around 80-120MB free RAM left.. and since android 2.2 is said to have a good task manager which frees up the RAM when needed, i dont think its a place to worry about..

As iamelton said, Android's in-built task managing system does a good job of managing what apps are using the processor, memory and battery. Task manager apps don't really do all that much useful, and can sometimes be counterproductive if you're trying to use them to save battery. Lifehacker has a really great article on this called Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn’t Use Them (I can't link because I don't have enough posts, but the article's a search away and is really worth reading). It runs through why it's generally best to avoid task manager/killer apps, plus it also explains how Android uses RAM - in a similar way to Windows Vista/7 (basically to speed up launching or re-opening apps).
It's probably worth noting that Android already has a function to force stop apps. If you go to Settings > About phone > Battery use, you'll get a list of what's been using the battery since it was last unplugged. Some widgets like Switch Pro have shortcuts to Battery use. It's useful if you've got Maps or a launcher or a rogue app sucking up battery in the background. As a rough idea, you may have an issue if anything not a system process is using more than 10%.
If you do need to force close an app, Battery use is generally the best way to go about it.

thx to cyvros for ur mentioning of the good article..
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
its a good read indeed, and for this topics discussion, i think the following paragraph gives a very good view on androids ram usage:
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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RAM and Task Manager/Killers explained!

This article was posted on Android Central and should be mandatory reading for everyone in these forums:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/andr...hat-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care

Good read, reminds me of how XP's memory handleing is compared to Vista/7's system.
Basic jist:
XP: System asks for very little: Task manager shows only ~100mb used on a very slim system
Vista/7: System uses ~40% of available memory if it's free, surrenders it back as programs are loaded that need it. Task manager shows ~2gb used on a slim system (assuming 4gb total rom)
What's it look like? Vista/7 uses 2gb vs XP uses 100mb.
What it does: Not much difference really, Vista/7 is just as stable with ram intensive apps (example: a virtual machine asking for 3gb ram on a 4gb system) both on XP and Vista/7 it will run and not bog the system down (from a ram perspective, we're completely ignoring cpu usage).
It's reasonably similar in android: recently loaded apps stay resident in memory, if the foreground app needs more ram android will unload older apps that arnt running. If you wanna run an app unloaded from memory, android has to reload it from storage.
If you task-kill everything immediately, android will ALWAYS have to reload from memory. The only exception is if the app didnt behave well in the first place (like auto-loading with a memory heavy service), if that's the case you're just as well off complaining to the dev because he/she needs to fix it anyway.
Though with the streak stageui is a pretty good example of this, widgets pretty much always stay loaded as they're widgets. Most of them use background services to update themselves and they're rather cpu/ram intensive.
You could task-kill them, but the right thing would be to freeze/completely remove them if you dont use them.

Thanks for sharing

I repair cell phones for a living and I notice carriers puting task killer on peoples phones....this is a phone killer some important processes get killed and I've had customers complain about phones not rotating right cause of thus also it causes alot of phone freezes and other problems cause of this....if u haveba task killer get rid of it and you will notice the difference..
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very useful.
personally never used task killers and the like , coming from the old school just dont feel at ease with applications doing things