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I am a formula 1 race fan and the official website provides a rich and powerful java app for PDA's that is truly cool. It provides live timing, circuit data, weather conditions etc
See http://www.formula1.com/mobile_services/live_timing.html
The application detects I am downloading this to my HD2 and it installs well and runs quite well. However everytime I shut it down I have to go to the website to download it again !?
It doesn't appear in my installed applications list and I can't find the formula1.jar file it downloads.
Can one of the code gurus on here help track down where this app goes so we can have it all the time?
The only clue I can see is that it shares the same icon as the jblend application found in the tools section.
What is JBlend???
When I click on jblend I get the F1 2010 application appear with several options (one of which is local install) but nothing other than going to the full download works.
Can someone help please I am obviously not across the java implementation here
JBlend is a Java emulator.
Open it and your F1 app will be on list. Mark it and run - thats all.
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JBlend is a Java emulator.
Open it and your F1 app will be on list. Mark it and run - thats all.
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Hi Franq, I get "Uncaught exception!" when trying that. Thanks in advance of any additional help you can provide.
A lot of people have had problems with the F1 live timing, the issue is Jblend. Install Myriad Java then download the Living timing again and it should work properly.
In fact I'll just upload the stuff
xavierdemon said:
A lot of people have had problems with the F1 live timing, the issue is Jblend. Install Myriad Java then download the Living timing again and it should work properly.
In fact I'll just upload the stuff
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yes I can confirm this works
xavierdemon thanks for share! I did'nt know that there is some other Java emulator. I need it for emulate Java apps, which use Bluetooth - JBlend can't do that. I hope this one can. Thanks
Many thanks. I'll give it a go. Didn't realise the HD2 had such a crap Java emulator.
Myraid is the best java emu ^_^
xavierdemon said:
A lot of people have had problems with the F1 live timing, the issue is Jblend. Install Myriad Java then download the Living timing again and it should work properly.
In fact I'll just upload the stuff
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Hi I installed it and can't find it anywhere in my programs list though it is listed on my installed apps list.
Also I deleted the app from JBlend but when I go to download the app from the website again it choses JBlend to use for the install.
When I go to run the app I get the same problem in JBlend.
What am I doing wrong?
Reset after installing Myriad and then just unzip the attached file and copy the contents to your device and run it.
xavierdemon said:
Reset after installing Myriad and then just unzip the attached file and copy the contents to your device and run it.
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Brilliant ! A nice shortcut in the program group has appeared!
How did you do that ??
How did you guys get hold of the Install file and how did you setup the install to ask the extra questions such as where to install the app so it appeared?
Why did the application writers not write it to do this!?
LOL lots of question there but as I said before it's a well known problem caused by Jblend being frankly just utter rubbish .
The Live Timing is awesome though adds a whole new dimension to the races .
Agreed re the awesomeness of the livetiming. I always watched the races on my PC with the full web version of live timing running side by side to the broadcast. Now I can sit in front of the big screen and just watch the live timing from my PDA.
Many thanks
xavierdemon said:
LOL lots of question there but as I said before it's a well known problem caused by Jblend being frankly just utter rubbish .
The Live Timing is awesome though adds a whole new dimension to the races .
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Hey xavierdemon, I am getting prompted that a new version of the app is now available for download. I wonder if you could create a package like you did previously for my HD2 using the updated version?
I'd love to know how you did this so I can do this myself and I can stop hassling you my friend.
Just use this link
http://mobile.formula1.com/download/start/HTC-HD2/Formula1.jar
Thanks very much
quick question on the java side of things. Is there a sun java version for windows mobile still? i remeber having it my artemis but i can't seem to find a copy of it anymore.
The living timing app does sound cool, though. I think i'm gonna go get it and try it out this weekend. I'm also wondering if there is something similar for the Le Mans 24 hours. On that note check out radio le mans. I used it last year for the commentry and it was so much better than eurosport.
I also had problems with Formula1 and JBlend.
So I installed Java Myriad
With Myriad no problem using Formula1 (2010 App)
But I can not run.
When I open Myriad, I have my application but I do not know how to run it.
So every time I pass by the formule1.jar which retry installation, then launch it.
How to run it from Myriad or better make a shortcut to launch my application directly
coooool!!!!!
does it run java or not?
can someone go on a java applet and tell me what it says?or does?
guess ill have to buy one and see...
will
be posting an update soon
Sorry to kick this one alive.
I was hoping I could run scottrades live ticker aplet on here. No luck so far.
Anyone know a way to run java aplet?
Thanks
Yeah it doesn't support a java applets. Test it on my friends. I wonder if honeycomb supports it?
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Investigated this myself -- despite android have 'some java' built in (i.e. dalvik VM) it does't have a VM capable of running a java applet.
One of the big missing things in Dalvik is the class libraries that are part of a normal JVM/JRE/JDK. In particular, it doesn't have awt, and/or swing (class libs used for UI type stuff).
So applets -- nope. Sometime? Maybe ... I think the OpenJDK guys have all the needed class libs making it JDK compatible but not having any proprietary encumberances. Maybe using this, there is a snowball's chance in hell that some enterprising organization or person, could attempt to cobble in some sort of support for more vanilla java stuff; maybe even including applets.
anybody have any other info on this?
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Investigated this myself -- despite android have 'some java' built in (i.e. dalvik VM) it does't have a VM capable of running a java applet.
One of the big missing things in Dalvik is the class libraries that are part of a normal JVM/JRE/JDK. In particular, it doesn't have awt, and/or swing (class libs used for UI type stuff).
So applets -- nope. Sometime? Maybe ... I think the OpenJDK guys have all the needed class libs making it JDK compatible but not having any proprietary encumberances. Maybe using this, there is a snowball's chance in hell that some enterprising organization or person, could attempt to cobble in some sort of support for more vanilla java stuff; maybe even including applets.
anybody have any other info on this?
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Let us know thanks.
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anybody have any other info on this?
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There is Java SE embedded for ARM which should provide JavaSE with all standard libs such as awt and swing.
Don't know if this runs on the Galaxy Tab though, did not try for myself.
Hello
I'm planning to write a program that will interact with an active Android phone (Leo specifically). I plan to do this using ADB (since it fulfills exactly what I need to do), but I'm not comfortable having to open a program shell every time, it's not really an efficient and fail-safe method of doing things.
I noticed that the ADB files in the SDK come with two dll files called adbWinApi and AdbWinUsbApi, but I couldn't import them to Visual Studio, so I'm guessing they can't be used as external resources (or they can and I'm just too ignorant). Anyway, I found no resources on how to use them, so I'm guessing adb.exe uses them, and unless someone can reverse engineer them for me and found the references I need to use, they're useless.
Does anyone have an idea how to interface with an Android device programatically? Using C# preferably, but any open 'handle' I can use would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
This looks like it might be what you're after:
http://madb.codeplex.com/
This is a Managed port of the Android Debug Bridge to allow communication from .NET applications to Android devices. This wraps the same methods that the ddms uses to directly communicate with ADB. This gives more flexibility to the developer then launching an adb process and executing one of its build in commands.
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Wow, looks interesting, I'll look into it.
Thanks for the great find!
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Anyway, I found no resources on how to use them, so I'm guessing adb.exe uses them, and unless someone can reverse engineer them for me and found the references I need to use, they're useless.
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And why to reverse engineer a part of an open source project? Android is open, you know ;-)
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/core.git;a=tree;f=adb
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And why to reverse engineer a part of an open source project? Android is open, you know ;-)
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/core.git;a=tree;f=adb
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LOL, true. But is the SDK?
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LOL, true. But is the SDK?
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I think so, I have linked ADB sources above. Maybe these sources are for adbd daemon on a phone only, but even if, then you have docs about adb protocol in OVERVIEW.TXT and SERVICES.txt files.
True, and I also noticed the ADB client emulates TCP anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to replicate and 'hook in'. Thanks for the tip
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I love webOS but we have very little choice about applications, and OS really deserves to reach a very good support for apps and patch than what we have now(many thanks to webos-internals), for now if we look the other platforms are missing most of the more useful applications...so i open this thread for ask to webOS users and help developers to have a first idea about what people need it most at this time.
Is not necessary to specify the name of the existing app from the other OS is also enough to have just the idea of the application or patch that you miss.
I start with:
Something like Shazam and Whatsapp and another choice than the original browser...
Thanks
VOIP
Any VOIP and preferably Skype or Fring or any way to use Google Voice as a calling or receiving number...
2 patchs:
1. arabic enabling for webos 1.4.5
2. app catalog enabling for unsupported carriers
many apps:
1.shazam
2. fring
3. call recorder
4. word, excel sheet editor
5........ many others
Currently I would just like a patch to be able to bookmark things in Diigo or look up my Diigo bookmarks and read later items.
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Any VOIP and preferably Skype or Fring or any way to use Google Voice as a calling or receiving number...
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Linphone is in early alpha testing:
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Linphone
Make yourself known in the #webos-internals IRC channel on Freenode if you wish to participate.
Source code is in the WebOS Internals git repository:
http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary
-- Rod
leopard106 said:
2 patchs:
2. app catalog enabling for unsupported carriers
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You can use the WebOS Internals MetaDoctor to bypass activation and create a palm profile over wifi to access the app catalog. If you do not do this on an official carrier in an official launch country, then you will end up with no access to purchase paid apps, and (depending on your country) may not end up with access to any apps at all.
You can always, of course, use Preware to install homebrew apps, patches, themes and kernels.
-- Rod
Hi,
I would like to see:
1. shazaam
2. springpad
3. pulse
Thx
Would love to see an app like DroidWall for WebOS to control access to data and/or wifi for specific apps.
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love to see most of the apps on web os before launching of touchpad and pre 3
I crave an Agenda app
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You can use the WebOS Internals MetaDoctor to bypass activation and create a palm profile over wifi to access the app catalog. If you do not do this on an official carrier in an official launch country, then you will end up with no access to purchase paid apps, and (depending on your country) may not end up with access to any apps at all.
You can always, of course, use Preware to install homebrew apps, patches, themes and kernels.
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can you link me to correct thread where bypass is tutorial,my pre is o2 germany with 2.1 webos meta-doctor?
sorry for lazy question
I still say Dark Nova should be ported to WebOS. It's already a remake of THE BEST PalmOS games ever, SpaceTrader. Its open source and written for both Android and iPhone/iPad/iPod. If anyone is interested in doing this, I would LOVE to beta test it! Just Let me know!
-NightHammer
How about a different web browser with more capabilities, such as flash. And no, I'm not talking about flash lite or some derivative of it....but the real deal. Android has 10.1....., why can't someone port it to work with Web OS? They're both programmed in Linux. Don't know why this has'nt been done by now. Web OS is such an innovative and powerful system......it really deserves more attention than it's been getting.
On a side note, anyone in the mood for some custom roms? Are their any Web Os chiefs out there? Or does anyone know of any roms for the palm pre?
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On a side note, anyone in the mood for some custom roms? Are their any Web Os chiefs out there? Or does anyone know of any roms for the palm pre?
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No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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That actually cleared up an old question for me haha. I always wondered why nobody ever made custom "roms" like they did on Windows Mobile and Android.
Do you, by any chance, know if this is the same deal for iOS?
Thanks again for the info.
rwhitby said:
No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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Thanks for the insight. That cleared up alot of my questions. How about the deal with flash? Anyone know of a program or custom kernel that enables it? I know Web OS 2.0 is supposed to have some rendition of it. Is it the real thing like Android has? If so, would we be able to make it work on an older version of Web OS? Anyone got any ideas? And thanks for your response Mr. Whitby
Leeboy said:
Thanks for the insight. That cleared up alot of my questions. How about the deal with flash? Anyone know of a program or custom kernel that enables it? I know Web OS 2.0 is supposed to have some rendition of it. Is it the real thing like Android has? If so, would we be able to make it work on an older version of Web OS? Anyone got any ideas? And thanks for your response Mr. Whitby
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There are all kinds of tutorials on the WebOS Internals Wiki. Those guys are awesome. They have walkthroughs forWebOS 2.1 on legacy Pres and everything. Including enabling Flash. I have used the tutorial and its thorough and intuitive. Check out their site! hxxp://w w w .webos-internals. o r g
Good Luck!
-NightHammer
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There are all kinds of tutorials on the WebOS Internals Wiki. Those guys are awesome. They have walkthroughs forWebOS 2.1 on legacy Pres and everything. Including enabling Flash. I have used the tutorial and its thorough and intuitive. Check out their site! hxxp://w w w .webos-internals. o r g
Good Luck!
-NightHammer
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Cool man! Thanks for the advice I've been preoccupied with my Sprint Epic 4g. Time for a change of pace. I never really abandoned my Pre, just lost interest a few monthes back. Seems like there is far more information and programs available for WM & Android.....it's a damn shame I tell ya, the Pre is such a powerful little device. Thanks again for the info, I'll check it out tonight
Does anyone know of a video player that supports formats other than .mp4? Is it possible to create a video player that plays .wmv, .avi, divx or .mpg files? Maybe that's asking too much of this device. Any thoughts on this?
Hey guys im considering porting/recoding an app from VB.net to work on android, but i havent got a clue what language is used in android, could someone tell me its name or some sort of website with this information?
Finally if someone is experienced in programming apps for android, i would like to chat about a few capabilities of the language.
Thanks in advance!
Android is Java-ish based.
i would recommend you checking out the program Eclipse.
The main applayer is java based with some xml thrown in. But there is a native development kit that you can compile c c++ and many other languages to run on an android phone. But since java is virtual machine based an app written in java will run on all phones*(some caveats like os version) while the app in ndk will work on only hardware that it was designed for
Also, is Google not working? A simple search for "Android programming language" would answer this question
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killersnowman said:
The main applayer is java based with some xml thrown in. But there is a native development kit that you can compile c c++ and many other languages to run on an android phone. But since java is virtual machine based an app written in java will run on all phones*(some caveats like os version) while the app in ndk will work on only hardware that it was designed for
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hmmm, yes there is google but not what im exactly asking, and that makes me ask this:
You talk about c & c++ and other languages compilations to run on android phone, is vb.net a part of that list?
Could you show me a website or something that says more about that dev kit? im basically trying to port my apps from vb 2010 express (windows forms based) to android and if that thing is not possible should i use java to code it all over again?
Thanks in advance!
http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/ this is for the ndk but it is not as simple as just compiling your code with the ndk. You will need to rewrite some of it to actuallytie into the android apis
You should really just use the java sdk. You will reach more people and be able to find more help and info
And I stand corrected, while there are projects trying to bring other languages to the ndk it is at this point just C and C++
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killersnowman said:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/ this is for the ndk but it is not as simple as just compiling your code with the ndk. You will need to rewrite some of it to actuallytie into the android apis
You should really just use the java sdk. You will reach more people and be able to find more help and info
And I stand corrected, while there are projects trying to bring other languages to the ndk it is at this point just C and C++
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oh well in that case i will need to learn java.... thanks mate, i think its easier to just rewrite the whole thing really i like proper optimizations and ports most of the times lack them.
Thanks for the information thats all i needed.
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if you know vb.net well you'll have no real problem with java.. it just adds brackets and semicolons essentially lol. I learned java in college and then was thrown into the .net framework using c# and i love the .net framework.. its so hard for me to go from using Visual Studios to Eclipse to make an android application because Visual Studios (which im assuming you use, is so powerful).. But yes android is java code behind and html (preferred) GUI. You can make your GUI using java but trust me its terrible!
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But yes android is java code behind and html (preferred) GUI. You can make your GUI using java but trust me its terrible!
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Html? You mean xml?
Also try Intellij instead of Eclipse. Eclipse is way too bloated and IntellJ has some amazing autocomplete features. Its better in my opinion
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jr10000 said:
if you know vb.net well you'll have no real problem with java.. it just adds brackets and semicolons essentially lol. I learned java in college and then was thrown into the .net framework using c# and i love the .net framework.. its so hard for me to go from using Visual Studios to Eclipse to make an android application because Visual Studios (which im assuming you use, is so powerful).. But yes android is java code behind and html (preferred) GUI. You can make your GUI using java but trust me its terrible!
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what?? i really need a proper GUI ugh... yes im using visual studio, and indeed is amazing, the app i have and i want to port to android is windows form based, the most essential thing i would need about it is the calendar control :\
You can use Javascript+HTML5 (it's complicated to express here but the whole things is pretty much native).
Python aswell, use SL4x or Kivy (Kivy is pretty good but it's still too new).
Sorry, being hate Java too much.
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You can use Javascript+HTML5 (it's complicated to express here but the whole things is pretty much native).
Python aswell, use SL4x or Kivy (Kivy is pretty good but it's still too new).
Sorry, being hate Java too much.
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ok np, so to doublecheck this: to have an application with graphical interface i will need javascript and html5?
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ok np, so to doublecheck this: to have an application with graphical interface i will need javascript and html5?
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I dont know why people spread extremely non standard practices to people getting started...
No you dont need javascript or html5.
Android has a ui layout system based in xml. Its just there to arrange objects that you can access from the java code. So a little xml and java is all you need
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TheWarKeeper said:
ok np, so to doublecheck this: to have an application with graphical interface i will need javascript and html5?
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The right way to do GUI is with Java, with the official SDK from Google.
Some non-standard way to do this is with Javascript (just a GUI wrapper from Javascript to Java) and Python (again wrapper to Python).
You can choose which way you want, many people I know didn't like Java, and they choose to use a web application, and then they want to embed this to a native Android application, so they go with Titanium Mobile or some others framework like that. It's not as good as Java, but it's some other way to start with your application (Web app first and then Native app)
Funnnny said:
The right way to do GUI is with Java, with the official SDK from Google.
Some non-standard way to do this is with Javascript (just a GUI wrapper from Javascript to Java) and Python (again wrapper to Python).
You can choose which way you want, many people I know didn't like Java, and they choose to use a web application, and then they want to embed this to a native Android application, so they go with Titanium Mobile or some others framework like that. It's not as good as Java, but it's some other way to start with your application (Web app first and then Native app)
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i feel like i should probably stick with java, i want it to be quick and fast and have alot of stuff to code, the program should run in background so it must not affect performance at all, will use timers with a basic code ticking every second while on background and thats it really
TheWarKeeper said:
i feel like i should probably stick with java, i want it to be quick and fast and have alot of stuff to code, the program should run in background so it must not affect performance at all, will use timers with a basic code ticking every second while on background and thats it really
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Then use java bro, it's an awesome programming language, I don't know why some people don't like it, each programmer should learn to get used to each language.
Anyway, for likes.. colors
Cheers, D4.
D4rKn3sSyS said:
Then use java bro, it's an awesome programming language, I don't know why some people don't like it, each programmer should learn to get used to each language.
Anyway, for likes.. colors
Cheers, D4.
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well ive been learning vb and i will admit that im still on intermediate level, even though i know all the basic stuff such as messing with its own functions, etc i still havent used any of the apis for it, the main problem with programming is that if u learn a language you would waste your time learning that one or else if u go learn to many languages you will end up not knowing none of them at all.
Ill see if i can mess with java, some people say syntax is a bit similar to c & c++
EDIT: btw, im not saying i dont find java good, a programming language that will basically run on any machine independently of the OS makes the language itself possibly the best and most versatile around.
I'm learning Android and I use Java and XML. I'm still a beginner though.
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I am just curious, software like Titanium Backup, or Angry Birds, which programming language do they use? Could this stuff be programmed with Eclipse in Java?
killersnowman said:
Html? You mean xml?
Also try Intellij instead of Eclipse. Eclipse is way too bloated and IntellJ has some amazing autocomplete features. Its better in my opinion
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Hey, do you know how to use intellij idea fire Android development?
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