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touch cube???

I saw that in the developing session they made a touch cube look a like application,but works for wm5-6....do you think it will be possible to have one for wm2003??

No it's not possible 'cause TouchFLO uses some files which aren't available for WM2003SE, I think!

at the end with our "fantastic specifications" of the Alpine but with wm2003, we can't try anything that could be useful...
.I think at the end I will take an HTC TOUCH CRUISE!!!

I should say that I am trying the spb pocketplus 4 and all smart scrolling (like iphone and Htc touch) are working...so why you say that it is not possible to have cube on wm2003 device???
They could do the same job they are doing for all other device without touchflow technology

i would also like the cube for wm2003, im using spb pocket plus 4 as well, & love the scrolling! is there any possible way for the cube to work on wm2003?? even a launcher? or somthing?

how can i activate the smart scrolling on spb 4
how can i activate the smart scrolling on spb 4?

Try this application, Slither2006's cube, SCLPC++. The latest version is WM5 only but he has released aversion which works just fine on my Alpine, the only caveat is that you can't use a finger swipe to start the application, just assign it to a button and you are good to go. All the other rotations etc are done withing the application itself.

WMP skin

Hi,
After seven years using imates, O2s and HTCs (all touch screen models) I had a go at Palm Treo Pro and must say I like it a lot. At least the qwerty keyboard keeps my screen free to actuelly view my aps while entering text. Also the phone part is much better supported.
btw, did you see the new Pre, looks awesome !
anyway, I find the Pro's WMP skin having too tiny buttons. OK, the navigation pad does a very good job, but I still i would like to install a skin with bigger buttons and yet keep album art displayed. I Tried Tweak Windows Media Player (pocketgear) but WMP/Options wont let me install it.
any suggestions for good square skins !

SPB vs TouchFlo 3D

I'm seriously thinking about flashing my HTC Touch HD with the basic WM6 ROM (without TF3D) and using the various SPB products to provide me with the interface I need.
The way I see it, the SPB products will probably be faster than TF3D (I've got my HTC Wizard running pretty quickly this way), more stable and they offer more variety (TF3D tabs are very limited in what they can do and hard to customize)
Has anyone done this? Can you tell me about your experiences?

You don't have to completely install a TF3D-free ROM. You can simply go into Settings > Today > Items, uncheck TouchFLO 3D and check your replacement UI.
That's what I did when I wanted to try the new PointUI Home 2 on my Touch HD.

Zaza le Nounours said:
You don't have to completely install a TF3D-free ROM. You can simply go into Settings > Today > Items, uncheck TouchFLO 3D and check your replacement UI.
That's what I did when I wanted to try the new PointUI Home 2 on my Touch HD.
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Ah yes! I forgot about that
What's PointUI and is it any good?

Tried PointUI
It's good - very fast and I like how colourful the interface is. It's still very limited though but hopefully that'll change in the future. It's definitely one to keep an eye out for
I'm installing the various SPB packages now and will report in a short while

Hmmm.. I'm torn about SPB
It's quite clearly a very good UI with a lot of capabilities but there's still something about it that I don't like
It has a weird sort of 'rigidity' which only allows you to do things the SPB way. I also don't like the flow from one screen to the next

Try spb mobile shell - the latest version and then install this free software from here http://www.imarche.net/omnia/index.php
Think you will be nicely surprised at what you can achieve....
regards
jpw

I really like the TF3D. It has a smooth design and runs pretty fast.
I also like the weather section and although there are some nice UI in the market i think i will stick with the TF3D.

JPW said:
Try spb mobile shell - the latest version and then install this free software from here http://www.imarche.net/omnia/index.php
Think you will be nicely surprised at what you can achieve....
regards
jpw
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Hmm.. still too rigid for my liking.

i use spb software and have ditched touchflo, dont bother with mobile shell as it offers me nothing in function
i use the following:
spb pocketplus
spb phone suite
spb weather
also on my today screen i have owner info edited to display as follows:
Owner: MY NAME
Touch to contact
at the bottom i have rsshub on autoupdate (trailling spb insight but not sure about it
in the past i have used spb diary on the today as well, but find it can comprimise some confidentiality issues so dont bother, after all my diary is but one touch away
i save at least 3mb of program memory and subjectively id say my machine is faster for it.
i can access all my functions i use daily with one touch on the pocketplus screen (ive done away with all the tabs and just have the one screen with my program icons) switch profiles with a swipe of my finger and likewise wifi etc on/off
sure it doesnt look as glam as tf3d but it offers me so much more function
as for the rigidity of spb products... yes they do want to do things their way, but ive used their software for a few years now and its second nature to me

I found this thread when looking for replacements to TF3D on my touch pro. I've been using SPB mobile shell for a few weeks now, and would mostly be ok with it if it wasn't for the annoying notifications that force me to exit mobile shell, and clear from the normal today screen. Do any other mobile shell users have that problem, or have you figured out a way around it?

Take a look at yrgo you might like it. It is highly customizable. here is a link to its website
http://www.2daysoft.com/yrgo/videos-and-tutorials/

Switched to SPB
I'm using SPB Mobile Shell + SPB Weather + SPB Phone Suite instead of TF3D.
Never looked back. And with SPB MS 3.0 coming TF3D will be like a toy
http://www.spbmobileshell3.com/

brusko1972 said:
Take a look at yrgo you might like it. It is highly customizable. here is a link to its website
http://www.2daysoft.com/yrgo/videos-and-tutorials/
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Wow, that's one heck of a customizable desktop. Seems like it could be really good once I get used to the UI.

I like the shell3 alot and have the tf3d and titanium actually removed from the 6.5 custom rom I'm using. Works much faster that way anyhow and I was growing weary of the limited functionality eyecandy of tf3d. But got a question and didn't want to start a new mobile shell thread. Anybody using ms who's figured a way to change font color on the shell ui? I know there are apps that will do it on the today screen, but can't seem to do it on the shell interface itself. Anybody got any info? Thanks

I bought SPB Mobile Shell 3 due to the good reviews it has generally received. However, after a week solid of use, I found it to be sluggish, so I asked for a refund which they promptly provided
It definitely has potential, looking forward to seeing what the next iteration is like. I'm using Point2Home now - quick, finger friendly and just pleasant to use, although I really wish some of these would go deeper in re-skinning the windows interface.

i like spb mobile shell 3 , but there is something which puts me off it but i just cant put my finger on what it is (maybe lack of customization) but im led to believe its getting better

I tried SPB3 and after a few weeks, I went back to TF3D. SPB was sluggish and it just was not as smooth as TF3D. I love the concept behind it and it definitely makes getting to your functions much easier. It just needs a lot more refinement. Especially in the area of text messaging

I'm not having sluggish issues at all and think it to be quite snappy. So I'm not understanding those comments, but there are so many diff roms out there that surely that is the difference in alot of cases. I thought that tf3d was sluggish on the email opening especially it would really lag at times. Then I read that the 6.5 roms had that issue. I'm not getting email open lagging at all with ms3. To each their own.

Hi there...
I've installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.0.1 and I LIKE IT A LOT!
but does anyone know HOW to get the name of provider onscreen?? (lifestyle)
thanx!

Adding 'TouchFLO' (not M2D/3D)?

I showed a friend of mine how, on my Fuze, I'm able to flick through my emails in Outlook and he was wondering if there was a similar app for his Palm Pro (Sprint).
Whenever I do a search for 'TouchFlo' on the forum, I usually end up with threads about M2D or M3D, which isn't what I'm looking for. Is there any way to add the TouchFLO from the Fuze/Raphael to the Treo Pro? If not, does anyone know if FTouchFLO provides the same functionality as HTC's TF?

I am almost certian Manilla is a code name from the developers for touchflo. As for the M2D(Manilla 2d) is touchFlo 2d and M3D(Manilla 3D) is touchflo 3D. So thats the case. Go and check youtube videos of M2D or M3D and see if thats what your looking for. But like you said on your Fuze (Touch Pro) then it was M3D which is not working for our treo pro

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965
You want this! I run it on my wife's TreoPro and it is flawless. The alphas are free, the final versions are now a paid app but include some other stuff along with being a bit more stable. Lighweight and dependable.

Brian:
I'm pretty sure Manilla and TouchFlo are different things. Manilla (2D and 3D) is just a user interface. I'm talking about the underlying gesture recognizer that comes on the Fuze. I call it TouchFLO because that is the entry in the control panel. The wiki says the name 'TouchFLO' is just HTC's branding, but it's also the finger interface that other devices lack.
furry:
I was looking at FTouchFLO, but wasn't sure it did everything my friend liked that HTC's TouchFLO does. On your wife's Treo, when you're in Outlook reading an email, can you flick the screen left for the next message and right for the previous?

Me and Zbop were talking about porting Touch Flo 3D to work on the Treo Pro.
He would patch the binaries to work under 320x320 and I would resize the graphic files and repoistion everything.
I'd have to get in contact with him to see if we can get this going or not.
I for sure would do it.

SO what is available for the Pro as of right now? Just TouchFLO 2D? How does it differ from TouchFLO 3D? I am just using SPB Mobile Shell 3 and find it a vast improvement over the standard Today screen crap. The interface is much sexier and much more condusive to fingering.

It is what it says. Its basically Touch Flo 2D except with 3D graphics and more eye candy.
Though it has more features.

My understanding about M3D vs. M2D is just aesthetics through hardware acceleration. For example, in M2D, the photo browsing tab lets you flick through your photos. M3D does the same, with the added effect of the photo actually sliding off the screen and the next taking its place. Just eye candy. (That, and I think M2D doesn't support VGA resolution as cleanly as M3D.)
You'll notice I'm referring to Manilla 2D and 3D and NOT TouchFLO. The HTC TouchFLO program I started this tread about is the underlying app that recognizes finger gestures for Manilla as well as adding 'flick-scroll' support to apps that don't internally support it (such as Total Commander or Outlook).
The main feature I'm looking for is specifically used in Outlook. It allows you to go to the next email by flicking the screen to the left or the previous to the right. It also allows you to flick to different email accounts if you're looking at the summary screen.

The program that you're looking for to have the finger scrolling option is called:
FtouchSL. I tried version 2.10 and it works just awesome on the Treo Pro GSM.
All you have to do is disable it in apps that don't like it. I'd HIGHLY recommend this proggie. Good luck!
Web Page
http://www.ftouchsl.com/

I don't see why you'd want/need the finger-flicking on devices that have a useable D-pad.
For a touch-only device, yes you need it, and it helps the screen to be the entire user interface.
The Treo Pro has buttons. If you don't want to use them, I suggest buying something with a bigger screen.

To go wm 6.5 from 6.1 when using SPB Mobile Shell?

Hi there!
I don't like manila / TouchFLO / Sense. I use SPB Mobile Shell and I'm quite contempt with that. I'm on WM 6.1 -would there be any reason for me to move to WM 6.5? I mean in terms of functionality?

windows 6.5 and SPB shell
Hi,
I've just updated my windows and found a lot of interference from windows 6.5 when using the sbp shell. Im considering to go back to 6.1.
If anyone can help to get 6.5 to work with spb shell please do.
Thanks!

Thanks, I guess I'll stick with 6.1 for now

No reason at all really, SPB Mobile Shell hides the interface of WM6.1 very good and you hardly see it. WM6.5 is laggy and unstable imo so I will stay with 6.1 for a while..

Cool, I'll do the same
I just hope SPB Mobile Shell will run smoothly on the HTC Leo when I get my hands on it

niknik76 said:
Cool, I'll do the same
I just hope SPB Mobile Shell will run smoothly on the HTC Leo when I get my hands on it
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No worries dude, if it can run WM6.5+HTC Sense 2.5/2.6 it will 100% run SPBMS without problems.

i think manila is much better than spb

spb shell 3.5 and wm6.5
i am using spb shell 3.5 with wm 6.5 for a couple of weeks without any problems.
The improvement of wm6.5 which is more finger friendly than 6.1. Is a better match for MS3.5.
Athorwise it doesn't matter much, what you use, because you're using MS3.5 most of the time.
You have to manually disable HTC Sense. Without third party applications they don't work well together.
I use tfd detacher to switch between them, but the downside is that it uses a lot of resources.
HTC Sense looks nicer but MS3.5 is more flexible and efficient when you design the lifestyle screen(s) to your needs.

I haven't tried wm 6.5.
From what I learn about the information of wm 6.5, I don't find anything that worth upgrading. I will stick to wm 6.1.

Feedback
I have installed SBP Mobile Shell 3.5 over my WM 6.1 and it works great .
I like below features of Mobile Shell:
- Multiple pages in home page (placed side by side), which can be used for multiple items in home page.
- Beautiful scrolling/touch.
- Widget features that can be placed anywhere in home page (in all pages).
There are couple of issues too:
- There is NO interface for making calls to a new number.
- We need to use the Luncher - Programs - Phone.
- But the other features of the call window does not work. Like we cant open the call history/contacts etc from that screen
Also refer another similar thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573320
Thanks.

You can press the call button or you can add the phone as an widget.

prabhat said:
- There is NO interface for making calls to a new number.
- We need to use the Luncher - Programs - Phone.
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Press call send key?

ArtieQ said:
Press call send key?
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Yes I know that and that is what I said in the post.
It does work by pressing the call key or adding the widget of the Phone too.
But the issue is:
- Other functions on the call window (like the opening contacts during call) etc does not work .
I am not sure how offen you open you contacts during a call. Which is NOT possible when you have SBPMS installed . Similarly there are many other issues too.
Thanks.

Indeed the functions on the call menu work only when touchflo3d is activated.
I think the shortcuts go to the actual touchflo3d.
Maybe there is a registry change so you can point them to the actual program and not to the touchflo3d alternative.
My workaround is press Startmenu - Today and from here anywhere you want.
You can read about this problem in the SPB shell forum under Topaz/Rhodium Dailer issue. They know the problem. The question is why is takes so long to come with an answer.

f.canak said:
Indeed the functions on the call menu work only when touchflo3d is activated.
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Yes. That is TRUE. It does work when TF3D is ON.
f.canak said:
You can read about this problem in the SPB shell forum under Topaz/Rhodium Dailer issue. They know the problem. The question is why is takes so long to come with an answer.
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Ohh OK. Thanks for this info. Infact I did a post in their fourum, but no reply yet.
May be we need to wait for 6.5 from HTC for TD2 and may be that will be more user / finger friendly.
But it is sure that it will NOT have the beautiful Multiple Pages in Home Page .
Or a newer version from SBP with a Phone/Call widget similar to default dialer.
PS: also I found the image viewer from camera menu is much better in default WM 6.1 than SBPMS.
Thanks.

Mobile Shell 3.5 is slooooow
I was extremely happy with 3.0 and decided to upgrade to 3.5. I like some of the extra features a lot but I quickly noticed that this eye candy has two major drawbacks:
- My battery drained twice as fast, reminding me of my Diamond 1
- The - otherwise very attractive - GUI is slower; opening the Wireless Manager takes 1.5 seconds and other operations that were very swift before were now slow and shaky
So I reverted to 3.0 (I have build 6501) and things are again what they were before: fast and beautiful!

I don't experience any decrease in speed jumping from 3.0 to 3.5
And my battery life improved
So I guess there must be different effects on different ROMs, settings or other stuff...