Using the Rogers' (crippled) version of magic running 1.5
its got google maps 3.1.x.
i remember when i was running one of the rooted roms on 1.6 i could upgrade upto the latest google maps 3.4 via the market.
however, for 1.5, google maps doesn't even show up in market. im afraid that the highest version for the app for 1.5 is indeed 3.1.x with no sight of an upgrade in the near future.
can anyone confirm/deny this?
thanks.
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You'll have to wait for the Android 2.1 + Sense UI for Rogers HTC Magic.
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You'll have to wait for the Android 2.1 + Sense UI for Rogers HTC Magic.
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Hopefully that will be available for HTC Magics bought in Norway too ..
is there a reason that you don't want to upgrade? At the very minimum, upgrade to 1.6 and Tmobile will continue to support the phone. I see no reason to stay at 1.5. Help me understand the rationale here.
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sorry but i'm new to this.
is HTC going to upgrade the Magic to 2.1?
I also just bought one from Rogers but using it on Bell's network.
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is there a reason that you don't want to upgrade? At the very minimum, upgrade to 1.6 and Tmobile will continue to support the phone. I see no reason to stay at 1.5. Help me understand the rationale here.
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He clearly said he had a Roger's HTC Magic. Not the crippled MT3G.
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Taknarosh said:
You'll have to wait for the Android 2.1 + Sense UI for Rogers HTC Magic.
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sorry but i'm new to this.
is HTC going to upgrade the Magic to 2.1?
I also just bought one from Rogers but using it on Bell's network.
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Yes, eventually.
Based on my assumption that your phone has the Sense UI update from Rogers, that means you have the perfected SPL.
So until HTC releases the Android 2.1 + Sense UI update you're probably out of luck (unless someone finds an exploit in the perfected SPL and then you probably could load up a custom Android 1.6 or greater ROM).
I know it sucks being stuck at 1.5 but patience will pay off. The Dream won't even get an update past 1.5, the MT3G and G1 are still in limbo as they aren't sure if they will even get a 2.X update, let alone with Sense UI.
We are very fortunate** as Rogers HTC Magic owners, as we are the only HTC Magic in the world to have official confirmation of a 2.1 + Sense UI update. (Thanks to the hard work and dedication of people like at the iwantmyonepointsix blog)
**NOTE: When I say fortunate, not for the perfected SPL but for the fact that a fully functional Android 2.1 + Sense UI update will be released that was designed for our phones so will have pretty much perfect functionality.
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Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
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Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
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Good question, I would love to see that as well... BUT I suppose it is not possible without the kernel sourse, unless Sprint's Hero comes out with 1.6 and then its ROM is ported to our European Heros. That's up to the devs!
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
chaoscentral said:
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
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That was what I thought. But Joshua @ Engadget told me that their Sprint Hero review unit only has Android 1.5 on it. Well, Android 1.6 added support for CDMA does not necessarily mean that one cannot write a driver for Android 1.5 to support CDMA.
But anyway, I do think that it is almost likely that HTC will release a 1.6 update for the Hero in a not too distance future.
The Google experience G1s and Magics are purely that - stock Cupcake ROMs. The Hero presents a slight challenge as HTC put a lot of love into the ROM, with the addition of SenseUI. Hopefully, it won't take that long to cook a Donut ROM with SenseUI, but just making the transition of the great innovations from HTC for the Hero will be the stumbling block for a Donut-based ROM.
HTC Response to my Donut question.
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
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I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
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Man thats so frustrating innit. I am sure if we ask google, they wont comment either coz our hero is not with "GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" ..... what a load of cr*p
well i actually snooped around and heard a couple of ppl say that it should not be a difficult task for HTC to induce Rosie into 1.6, infact one of them even said " should be a peice of cake" so i am a hopless optimist and hopefully it'll be sent as an OTA upgrade or " HOTFIX " by HTC soon...
I'll call HTC too and see if i can get any more info out
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Just got off the phone with a customer support officer from HTC UK. And she said that while they dont have the exact date on when HTC will issue and update bundled with Donut, It is under works and will be sooner rather than later..... now the waiting games begin
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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well the only notable improvement might be of the speed and performance, although google didn't shout about it so i m thinking it'll be minimalistic ... however detailed battery usage, universal search and test to speech are a few things i wouldn't mind having....
But actually for me its just about getting the latest updates on the Android flagship device...
dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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One benefit will be being able to run any future apps that require 1.6 (use 1.6-specific API features). We already have apps that run only on 1.5 or higher...
system-wide search feature would be nice...
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this, but I signed up to point it out:
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/tattoo/specification.html
http://developer.htc.com/htc_tattoo_developer.html
The Tattoo will be shipping with Android 1.6, and it uses the Sense UI. That should mean that it isn't too far off for the Hero.
Looks promising! and the Tatoo is Due to launch orange UK this month
VPN and Global search are the two main features I am most excited about in the Donut
It's supposed to be faster also.
Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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yes it does
http://drop.io/g1i9pj0 hero is getting donut....you might also be getting a snapdragon hero.
I installed donut on my girlfriends g1 yesterday and it seemed much faster than cupcake.
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Just got an email from HTC saying that the HTC Magic and Dream on Rogers will both get upgrades which add the HTC Sense user interface. This upgrade will keep Android at version 1.5
Later this year the HTC Magic (NOT the Dream) will get another upgrade which will bring Android up to version 2.1.
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Just got an email from HTC saying that the HTC Magic and Dream on Rogers will both get upgrades which add the HTC Sense user interface. This upgrade will keep Android at version 1.5
Later this year the HTC Magic (NOT the Dream) will get another upgrade which will bring Android up to version 2.1.
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Nightmare.
Obviously at the request of robbers...
And further confirms everything I've said about robbers before regarding the DREAM.....
They are TRYING their BEST to make the hardware appear inadequate. Now they are loading it with stupid ugly bloatUI.... rather than upgrading it to the latest system image.
Anyone knows if 32a is getting 2.x? When will it be released......
updates:
With reference to This Thread
The HTC Magic will be upgradable to 2.1 by mid-year.
http://twitter.com/RogersHelps/status/10927130422
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Yes, by May 2010 we should all have it on our Magic (if HTC keeps up to its promises).
rawr. may seems so far now...
Per this link, it will be June or July by the time it makes it to the public. Maybe it'll leak before that time...
http://androidforums.com/rogers/52738-we-met-rogers-good.html
Got this off HTC Singapore Facebook Wall.
Dear XXX, the Hero Upgrade would be in May 2010. For Magic and Tattoo users, there would not be any upgrade. Please call our service hotline at 1800 238 7788 if you have queries. Cheers
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Hi XXX, as confirmed by our product manager, there will not be any andriod 2.1 update for Magic and Tattoo. So sorry if any of the teams had give you a wrong idea. My sincere apologies.
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What kind of service is this?
And do they know the difference between hero and magic is the camera..
He may have meant the magic 32b, which is not getting an update.
From what I know, Singapore's Magic is 32A... Oh well, hope he's referring to 32Bs...
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
This is what has been said: (coming straight from HTC, not from any official channels though, this has been posted on phandroid forums from a HTC rep. This agreement was started between HTC and Rogers)
By mid-year, HTC will issue an upgrade to Android 2.1, including the highly acclaimed HTC Sense experience for the HTC Magic.
However, due to certain limitations on the HTC Dream, the software path for the HTC Dream will be terminated after the next Android 1.5 update. While we regret not being able to offer the same updates to both devices, by bringing this upgrade to the HTC Magic, we are delivering the best solution possible given the situation at hand.
We also want to emphasize that the situation with HTC Dream and HTC Magic devices is true across markets, and is not limited to Canada. While “Google Experience” devices built on the same platform (like the T-Mobile G1) do have different upgrade paths – this is due to the use of a stock Android build, rather than a custom build used on the HTC Dream and HTC Magic.
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I wouldn't trust too much on facebook pages or HTC support channels.
dione1200 said:
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
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There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
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There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Then it's probably 1.5 since 2.1 isn't released yet.
OK, so the MyTouch and the HTC Magic at Rogers (http://www.htc.com/us/support/magic-rogers/downloads/) look like exactly the same phone - but the rogers has had a 2.1 + Sense UI update and its faster than any other Sense UI rom here at xda.
What are the differences between these two phones? Can we port over the rogers 1.5 w/ Sense UI to get the fastest Sense UI rom on the MT3G?
Is it against the forum rules to ask a Rogers user for their serial number so I can download the update from HTC's website and work on porting it myself? If not, would anyone be willing to PM me their serial so I can get to work on it?
The thing is - speed has always been an issue with sense roms - the rogers has other bugs but maybe the speed increases would be enough for users to start using this rom (if we could cut it) and then we can fix all the bugs HTC won't fix in it. And yes, I know this is based off of 1.5 - but its also written specifically for similar hardware. - Granted, I understand the difference in RAM between the 32a and 32b devices (288 vs 192)
Isn't Cursorsense already based on the Rogers rom?
it is, but its been made for the 32A not the 32B, 32A has more ram than 32B so we need a smaller, less intensive rom like the rogers.
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it is, but its been made for the 32A not the 32B, 32A has more ram than 32B so we need a smaller, less intensive rom like the rogers.
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Giving HTC phones Sense is based on the phone provider; ROGERS decided to give HTC Magic users Sense UI, some other people are not so lucky as each provider wants to customize each ROM to their own liking (adding their own apps, wallpapers, boot up screens, etc) and some want to add new features like Sense.
I hope people also realize that the update ROGERS put out was NOT 2.1. People have to stop thinking this; the ROM is still 1.5 and the 2.1 update is supposed to be coming out soon.
If you want a Sense UI, download one of the 1.6+ ROMS, ROGERS was a good ROM while I had it but there was too many bugs in the ROM itself; there are probably better, faster ROMS already out there that are vastly superior to ROGERS ROM.
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Giving HTC phones Sense is based on the phone provider; ROGERS decided to give HTC Magic users Sense UI, some other people are not so lucky as each provider wants to customize each ROM to their own liking (adding their own apps, wallpapers, boot up screens, etc) and some want to add new features like Sense.
I hope people also realize that the update ROGERS put out was NOT 2.1. People have to stop thinking this; the ROM is still 1.5 and the 2.1 update is supposed to be coming out soon.
If you want a Sense UI, download one of the 1.6+ ROMS, ROGERS was a good ROM while I had it but there was too many bugs in the ROM itself; there are probably better, faster ROMS already out there that are vastly superior to ROGERS ROM.
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The OP clearly stated he know it was 1.5...
To OP:
The ROM is a 32A designed ROM. I don't think any amount of tweeking will make it run better on a MT3G to be frank.
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The OP clearly stated he know it was 1.5...
To OP:
The ROM is a 32A designed ROM. I don't think any amount of tweeking will make it run better on a MT3G to be frank.
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The original post has an edit; I didn't see the last part until after my post.
Best Rom
search for binary100100 he ported a rom too the 32a (fender/1.2) but it is a g1 port with support for the mytouch original and the new ones as well as all the g1's out there..
on my friends g1 it boots in about 1 minute 30sec
and on my 1.2 it boots in under a min..
anyways its like KiNGxKlickDroidEris2G1 just search for it or look for Binary100100 who ported it and he has a link to the original thread
Dude... the thread is from may 2010!!!!!
the rom runs flawlessly, it boots nicely, nd with the CR_Slide OC it works even faster, the kernel frm the overclock puts my 1.2 mytouch at 845mhz
with an already stable nd speedy sense rom!!!
damn its fast with that kernel its booting faster than ever
Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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be patient, most probably they're working on it
Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
work started!!!
A lot of people are having trouble with that ROM; they are saying that it is bogging down their phone and making it a "slow POS". Hopefully we can fix that
htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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You mean the 2.1 with Sense? Latest rumors says that Rogers will test it/release it in the end of june...or is that rumor dead?
I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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Oh, they'll start "testing" it on end of june, sooo ... like ... we have on October or so
I have tested it last night with our device, with most features enabled.
it is faster than legend port. but it is slower than eris port. and...
what surprised me..., it has more bugs than eris port and legend port. both aosp kernel driver and htc's will break something, so I need to do some repairing.
and I am worry about the port jobs in the future. HTC modified more and more basic libs in android layer. maybe replacing libs will become harder and harder.
my biggest interest now is the Dalvik and new webkit in 2.2, but we can't get the sources at current
I have very few time, so I don't know if I should upload my current version, or I should test it more?
it have a bug which make me sick, bluetooth component wants to update database again and again. but this bug is not appeared every time, so a reboot will "fix" it. but I have very bad feeling with it.
and I don't know how to make default APN list too. I am not good at these things. I just put it into /etc as usual, but it didn't work. I have to add my APN manually it seems that this version is for specified mobile operator in Taiwan.
only thing (I have found) which is better than eris port, it uses same graphics as legend.
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Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
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rogers cant release it till htc gives it to them at the end of june....
its not rogers its htc we need to release it...
a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest
"a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest"
Can't wait to see if it is worth it
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