Hi!
I've made a n interesting discovery with my battery.
3 weekends i have drained my battery until it shut itselfs off, and then i have charged it up again. And now i realy can live with my HD2 battery life.
When i come home from work i have about 80% and now as i write i have 76% left at 20.44.
Before i would have about 30-40% left at this time, i have never drained my battery before to 0, so when it happens the first time i noticed a slightly improvement. So the next weekend i did the same, and this last weekend i unplugged my charger at 06.00 in the friday morning and did not charge before sunday morning at 10.00. And for me THAT's a BIG/HUGE improvement.
Glad you resolved your issues .
I've found that having any kind of TSR apps installed on the device memory instead of the storage card, has made the battery life livable on my HD2 .
ToddeSwe said:
Hi!
I've made a n interesting discovery with my battery.
3 weekends i have drained my battery until it shut itselfs off, and then i have charged it up again. And now i realy can live with my HD2 battery life.
When i come home from work i have about 80% and now as i write i have 76% left at 20.44.
Before i would have about 30-40% left at this time, i have never drained my battery before to 0, so when it happens the first time i noticed a slightly improvement. So the next weekend i did the same, and this last weekend i unplugged my charger at 06.00 in the friday morning and did not charge before sunday morning at 10.00. And for me THAT's a BIG/HUGE improvement.
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yepp same here ..
i was a bit confused why the battery life was so sh itty . well i drained the battery a couple times and now i can run it 2 days without a charge and under normal / heavy use ..
MVH
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xavierdemon said:
Glad you resolved your issues .
I've found that having any kind of TSR apps installed on the device memory instead of the storage card, has made the battery life livable on my HD2 .
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TSR apps? Please explaine to me
Timothye said:
yepp same here ..
i was a bit confused why the battery life was so sh itty . well i drained the battery a couple times and now i can run it 2 days without a charge and under normal / heavy use ..
MVH
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Hey guys!
I really need to try this. my battery life is just so pathetic.I hope it works for me too.
TSR - Terminate and Stay Resident.
Anything like G-Alarm/G-Profile, task managers etc. Any program that stays on or runs in the background I install to the phones memory. I think there is increased battery drain caused by accessing the storage card constantly IMO, so installing stuff like the above has made battery last 48hrs no problems. I too like to do a couple of full drain and recharge cycles a month .
I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who have battery issue probably has like a **** load of apps installed and/or unaware that some of their apps that they installed were running in the background. I've had the t8585 and the newer t9193 and never had any battery issue. The battery will easily last me 50hrs with light-to-moderate usage.
i can only confirm this.
after draining ur battery a couple of times, u need to fully charge it and it lasts longer than the first few days with the HD2
from new my battery life was totally useless. would barely last until 9pm no matter what i did.
two weeks ago my phone decided to forget it's pin lock number so had no choice but to hard reset the phone. since then i get a couple of days out of it and that's with heavy texting and web browsing.
i loved the phone before but battery life drove me up the wall but now i'm getting more life out of it i am now loving the device!
On the first couple of days I had the phone I had <40% by the end of the day but now even though I use my phone alot more I find I get to bedtime with ~50%
charging it unpowered after the drain also helps. (like with USB not the charger)
Most battery "manuals" state that completely draining the battery from time to time followed by full recharge is considered "good exercise" for the batt
mickesjo said:
Most battery "manuals" state that completely draining the battery from time to time followed by full recharge is considered "good exercise" for the batt
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Not to hijack the thread, just wondering if you're the talented skin designer that created some of the BEST for Wizbar? I still use them on all my HP PDA's
Few days ago i bought my HD2, and before that i saw problems about battery life on this forum.
When i bought it I drain the battery until he died, then i left him turned off and let him recharge over night (cca 8h). In the morning I turned him on and i used him all day max...and in the end of the day battery died at 23h, again, when he was off I let him chargeing over night (cca 8h). In the morning I turned him on and used him average, at evening, 23h, the battery was on 54%, I went to sleep and in the morning (after 7 hours) the battery was 52%.
2% in 7 hourse is very good...and 50% over day. I'm ok with that
mickesjo said:
Most battery "manuals" state that completely draining the battery from time to time followed by full recharge is considered "good exercise" for the batt
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All that does for Lithium-Ion batteries is to reset the "estimated remaining charge" circuit. It wont increase the available battery life it just makes the battery report more accurately as to its remaining charge.
Smartmob said:
Few days ago i bought my HD2, and before that i saw problems about battery life on this forum.
When i bought it I drain the battery until he died, then i left him turned off and let him recharge over night (cca 8h). In the morning I turned him on and i used him all day max...and in the end of the day battery died at 23h, again, when he was off I let him chargeing over night (cca 8h). In the morning I turned him on and used him average, at evening, 23h, the battery was on 54%, I went to sleep and in the morning (after 7 hours) the battery was 52%.
2% in 7 hourse is very good...and 50% over day. I'm ok with that
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this is awesome...info..
i use energy rom with the gtx, and my battery life is so bad. it hardly reach one day!!
when i sleep at +- 10 p.m, i have 90%
when i get back from school( as most school here don't allow mobile phone), it left at 70/60 %, i get back from school at around 2.00 pm, i don't have any program running, gprs off, running at edge, i use 2.12 radio, how can you guys achieve 2 days?
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i use energy rom with the gtx, and my battery life is so bad. it hardly reach one day!!
when i sleep at +- 10 p.m, i have 90%
when i get back from school( as most school here don't allow mobile phone), it left at 70/60 %, i get back from school at around 2.00 pm, i don't have any program running, gprs off, running at edge, i use 2.12 radio, how can you guys achieve 2 days?
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energy rom's use a lot of power. i didnt knew that untill i flashed the Anastasia rom ( link ) battery life is great and it looks better than energy imo. and it easy runs 2 days for me
I've been very annoyed at the rapid battery loss with Dutty's series of excellent ROMs.
I started from scratch and didn't install any apps to the Storage Card just to be absolutely sure. I even put the phone into Flight Mode.
Tonight I finally nailed the culprit for the huge drain (we're talking 50% in a few hours): it was a 16GB "Memory2Go" SDHC card. With the card removed, I lost just a few percent over a couple of hours.
I also don't get the same drain with an 8GB Sandisk card installed.
Any ideas on how to get the 16GB card to play nicely?
xavierdemon said:
TSR - Terminate and Stay Resident.
Anything like G-Alarm/G-Profile, task managers etc. Any program that stays on or runs in the background I install to the phones memory. I think there is increased battery drain caused by accessing the storage card constantly IMO, so installing stuff like the above has made battery last 48hrs no problems. I too like to do a couple of full drain and recharge cycles a month .
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Damn, I never thought of the install location affecting battery life. But it makes sense, thanks a lot for your explanation!
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So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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same here ill try to get a new one
Check if you have any applications running in the background. Do you have Wifi turned on, bluetooth? Every module that is enabled keeps sucking power. If you don't turn them off, your phone can indeed get drained pretty quick. The battery is just fine, 1500mAh isn't bad at all. Do keep in mind that - due to the big screen and many options - phones like this just don't last for a week.
Also, did you fully uncharge your battery when you first used the phone?
If the problem persists, you can always contact SE to get a new one, as it's not supposed to drain that fast.
I know on the old P990 if you didn't exit the camera app correctly it just ran in the background and drained the battery. I do a double check in the task manager every so often to ensure that nothing was left running that shouldn't be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463775
This is a thread from Touch HD about AE Button Plus.
I am testing this now on my X1 because I am alos not happy with MY battery life.
dingolino
the camera is not that bad, actually it's one of the bests I seen in a mobile device... anyways, don't expect to take, for example, good night photos, but actually, with good lighting the photos came really nice.
as for battery; I'm sure you shoudl have something (maybe wayfinder) running in the background, with moderate use I get 3-4 days of battery without problems; and I never let it get down 40%.
i get about 2 days max on my battery. thats with nothing running in the background, althought it does ckeck my emails every 15 mins.
shame u cant buy a bigger battery like a 3000 that would last twice as long as 4 days on one charge would be amazing
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
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Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
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yeah, i did that with a phone i bought about 2 years ago and had to get a new battery as the original one would die after a day or 2 (should last about a week as was standard phone). i always leave a new phone on charge overnight now so i know its charged all the cells
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
are you using Itjes latest HD based rom?
I found I got really bad battery life out of it for a couple of days till I let it run down to under 10% then charged it again. It's working fine now.
CantoX1i said:
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
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I heard the same thing from a couple of people. Older batteries had that problem but modern ones don't. I just wanted to make sure =P
u might be right. like i said it was about 2 years ago it happened to my phone. but why take the risk
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
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The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
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Did you flash your phone recently? was the battery at full before you flashed it? it's been reported as a problem on other phones (I remember the UNI used to do this) that if you flashed when the battery wasn't at full it messed up the power levels.
Evostance said:
So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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Mine was crap the first few days. I read somewhere on this forum to run battery to zero and charge overnight with the phone off. Mine now lasts all day and is recharged each night.
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
It depends on what applications you've installed.... Touch flo drains it like hell.
My phone looks like this.
I use SE panel 1, no other gimmicks.
Pocket player for music 2 hrs each day.
15 min of video here and there.
2 hrs of phone calls, and a hell a lot of messages, which means keeping on switching the phone from potrait to landscape and so on...
SPB phone suite.
SPB wallet.
SPB Wireless manager.
I get a solid 2 days with about 15% remaining at the end of the second day...
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Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
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As much as possible put the phone in sleep mode when you charge the battery. And the battery gets more heated up when charging over USB.
Hi!
I had the same problem some days ago. Even if the X1 slept on my desk with no application running, after 2 days the battery was empty.
I thought about what I installed last and deinstalled Batti. And now the battery lives much longer.
Btw... does anyone know a good app to show the status of the battery? Or how I can show it instead of the clock?
Batti was great but charging every second day was not.
Hello there,
I would really like some advice - my battery is draining like water. I'm quite convinced it is the regulation of the unit; I bought a 2400mAh battery replacement and it lasted ages on first go, but then my G1 started draining stupidly fast after I'd recharged it. This also happens on the stock battery too (buy even quicker!). I'm convinced it is the regulation because a) I've never had battery problems previously and b) the battery meter starts at about 26% when I plug it it in (after the phone shuts off from it being dead and I then plug in the charger).
I actually have a bricked G1 that still charges batteries, so I thought I'd do an overnight charge on the battery that way, to 'remind' the other G1 what a 100% battery is like, but that didn't seem to work either.
Can someone help? Is this a known problem? I would really appreciate any advice.
Mark
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
gridlock32404 said:
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
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GPS doesn't really drain battery unless it's actively being used...at least not on my phone.
You can also try disabling 3G if you're not in a 3G area. It will keep trying to find a 3G signal, which really drains battery.
For the record, I have a stock battery that I get ~13-16 hours on from a single charge... my backlight is at 40%, GPS is always on, and I use wifi whenever I want to surf the web and am near an open network.
OP...if your battery is lasting you only a couple of hours, then I'd try to reflash your ROM. Might help...
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Yeah, that's on a normal, moderate usage day. If I use it heavily, with a lot of wifi and web browsing, then I'll get around 10.
Maybe your battery needs to be replaced... could just be old and not holding a charge properly.
It's 2 months old, has done it from day one, I also have another battery that does it too that I kept from a previously brick g1, so one 3 phones, all the same battery life but then I use it quite heavily, always browsing on the web since my computer burned out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555048
try that? 3rd gen battery could help..
Thanks for the suggestions, but it's not a wifi/3g/brightness etc problem - I've had a G1 for six months, I know exactly how much power should be consumed. It's also not the battery; I have two stock batteries and a brand new 2400mAh battery, which for the first few charges lasted about 2 - 2.5 days and was brilliant (as it should be), but now doesn't last all that long.
I may have made the situation slightly better however - I did a Nandroid backup, wiped to factory (well, Cyanogen 4.0.4 anyway) and booted into that. I then restored the backup and when I plugged back in to the charger, the meter was at 85%, and seemed to take a normal amount of time to charge (and not jump to 100%). It remains to be seen if the problem is solved, I've yet to have the battery drain (this is a good sign though) an plug in the charger to see if it will jump from 0 to 25 or not.
I'll re-post when I know.
run the battery down until the phone shuts off without plugging it in.
charge the battery while the phone is off over night
do this 3-5 times and see if you get any improvement.
also remember some of the cheap 2400 batts from ebay and such claim 2400 but that is from 3.5V to 3.0V. The G1 considers 3.2V to be dead so you only get from 3.5V to 3.2V which sucks.
I'm with gridlock on this one. My batteries suck. It always needs a mid day charge. And to the poster that said to reflash a rom, that is bad advice. There is known issues with getting poor performance out of these batteries. I have 2 and both do the same. Got the second one from complaining to t-mo about how bad it sucks.
Reflashing seems to have worked...the 2400mAh battery seems a lot better now, it lasted nearly two days (it runs at 3.7v, according to my battery diagnostic), I've only just recharged it last night. When I plug it in, it charges normally and linearly now, instead of jumping straight to 25%.
So my advice, if anyone is having similar problems to me, would be to try a reflash.
Thanks for your help everyone.
Ive had my phone for a month now nad the battery seems to be getting better. Ive resently done a task 29 and updated to Artemis v9 with radio version 2.09 and from 4:30 yesterday afternoon I took it off charge its gone down to 90%. Thats doing light txting and web. Im amazed....
exactly the same experience for me, using the hd2 since december and battery now lasts almost 3 days from time to time
i even bought a second battery to replace it when im not at home lol.. but not that important anymore
and yea, im surfing everyday and text very much, some phone calls too, normal use..
i love it xD
Baker0 said:
Ive had my phone for a month now nad the battery seems to be getting better. Ive resently done a task 29 and updated to Artemis v9 with radio version 2.09 and from 4:30 yesterday afternoon I took it off charge its gone down to 90%. Thats doing light txting and web. Im amazed....
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Mine lasts more than a weekend with moderate use now I've had it a few months.
How have you been treating your batteries... run it all the way down then recharge? or keep it topped off?
ElaineD said:
How have you been treating your batteries... run it all the way down then recharge? or keep it topped off?
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I usually wait until it gets down to about 10% charge, then top it up.
But, it does get trickle charges during the week while plugging into my car.
i also found my battery getting better
with 40% brightness, from 8:30am online to surf web until 4pm, still have 40%
i think because it uses less cpu processing power and speaker sound(play games or movie), that's why battery can last longer
your probably find that a lot of it is down to how much you use it, Obviously when you first get a phone for the first couple of weeks your going to be using it constantly, figuring out new things and just general playing about, once you have gotten used to it you dont do as much, its not very noticable as its gradual but thats one of the reasons why battery life gets better.
83% now after a bit more txting and a little bit of facebook. ive been charging around 30 40%
I completely agree about the battery, I'm actually amazed
I am using Energy ROM with GTX and C00kie and I am getting a good 2 days of HEAVY usage, and i'm talking hundreds of texts, about an hour on the phone, couple hours of music, couple hours of 3G Internet with 3G on all the time.
I'm amazed.
Just run the battery out and then fully charge it and you're sorted.
Its down to understanding how Lion work.
They like being worked and the harder the better. If used like this over time they will give better and better results. There is no need to discharge or condition them in any way other than charge them as often and for as long as possible and this will maximize battery life over a few weeks. Then you see the benefits.
pa49 said:
Its down to understanding how Lion work.
They like being worked and the harder the better. If used like this over time they will give better and better results. There is no need to discharge or condition them in any way other than charge them as often and for as long as possible and this will maximize battery life over a few weeks. Then you see the benefits.
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I agree. I charge my battery whenever I can.
I got my phone couple days ago and been constantly on it and kill a full overnight charge by lunch time. Hopefully my battery life will get better too. I may need to change some settings too.
Mine seems to be lasting alot longer now - I can go a whole weekend without charging
I got my phone couple days ago and been constantly on it and kill a full overnight charge by lunch time. Hopefully my battery life will get better too. I may need to change some settings too
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i'm having the same experience... phone off, wifi on, backlight 10%
62% now 40 hours.....
Hello,did you do anything specific with your HD2 to extend the battery life?
popsrle said:
Hello,did you do anything specific with your HD2 to extend the battery life?
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I think its because ive got nothing installed on the SD card....53%
Energy consumption depends a lot on the availabity of (good) mobile network reception, online usage etc.
Mine lasts about 12 hours until it is almost completely drained due to baaaad mobile connection :-(
32% left..... still going 64 hours....
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32% left..... still going 64 hours....
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keep going baker
G2 Battery Life Thread
Please state if you have a different battery than the 1300mAh it comes with original.
My experience
First day
Received it with 25% ~4pm
Powered off at 0% ~ 6pm
First day (first charge) - wall charge
0 - 100% from 6PM - to 11PM (it took less to charge but i left it a few more hours)
Unplugged at 11PM - played with it till around 1AM
1AM - 7AM - did not charge, it was on standby
7AM - 1:30PM - school / text / web / a few games
1:30 - 2:45PM - a few phone calls / light texting
Battery died at 0% ~ 3:00PM, at around 15-16hours with use, but also no use for about 6hours overnight.
I have installed Advanced Task Killer, whenever I end apps, it ends between 5-15.. average being around 10.. lol
but so far, my first charge from 100%-0%, without overnight use, i got around 15 hours.
drain first or charge first?
nick, you drained your batt before fully charging it.
arent the instructions always telling us how important it is to fully charge it first after you unbox it, before use?
formatting the batt is completely use up all power and then do a full min. 8h charge... best to complete this about 3 times to get full battery capacity
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
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nick, you drained your batt before fully charging it.
arent the instructions always telling us how important it is to fully charge it first after you unbox it, before use?
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That was true for NiCd batteries, which are not in use for many years. You don't need to format your battery anymore.
@nickbunyun: now try it without ATK.
Gee, I do so wish there was a G2 forum for all these G2 threads to go in hehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750
Well, G2 or Desire Z, it's only the first charge... and whether you've fully discharged it or not at first time use, at the first charge batteries aren't at their maximum performance.
See my first charge experience:
HTC HD2: 1st - 10 hours ..... after some charge/discharge: entire day playing on it for the entire morning and texting for the rest of the day (or two days without playing)
Motorola Milestone: 1st - 6 hours ..... after some charge/discharge: same of HD2.
We'll see the battery performance only when you'll use it and you'll charge/discharge it for at least three times!
Anyway, thanks!
snudel said:
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
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spot on snudel!
snudel said:
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
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I started following this thought process when I got my Motorola Milestone. Sitting it in the dock to charge when not in use and overnight helped but I'm still suffering a little from battery obsession. It's a hard habit to break.
i started it with my htc magic and continued with the desire.
the battery tool it perfectly fine.
at the beginning the battery wouldnt last a day. so i bought a second charger for my work place
so first days i charged it everywhere and after some3-4 days, the battery lasted a full day.
so i started charging over night. no matter how full the battery was.
this works out perfectly well. so i will kepp it.
So I got my G2 yesterday at about 4:30. I LOVE it, absolutely (a bit of a weak hinge, and I had a random reboot and trouble starting WiFi at first, but it's seriously fantastic). But I'm having problems with the battery. At the store the guy turned it on and handed it to me, and I used it on the way home to the point that, by about 1.5 or 2 hours after turning it on the first time, it was at about 15% battery. So I started charging it, and then read an article online that it should be discharged, so I unplugged it after it went up about 4 or 5% in battery life to 16% and used it a bit more to drain it all the way. Then I read a different one saying you should never discharge it because it's Lithium Ion, and so I turned it off until I could get to the charger and then charged it and left it charging until I woke up at 6. Then I unplugged it, used it for about 20 minutes in the morning, and turned it off. I turned it back on at 3 today, used it mildly (Angry Birds, an emulator, and the camera, but couldn't get data access except very intermittent EDGE, no Wifi or GPS enabled) until 4:10, and noticed that it was at 65% battery life. The screen is on automatic brightness, and I have animations and a live background, but those are my only concessions. It said 45% of battery use was Android and that was the highest thing, I think display was only second or third (unlike my parents' Vibrants where it's like 66% display).
So that's 1.5 hours for a third of the battery, with moderate usage (I would argue that no data or GPS or wifi or internet usage at all is very moderate). So, on average, I could expect to get 4.5 hours of battery life? At one point it went from 55m unplugged to 1:07 unplugged and the battery went down about 10%. That's worse than my parents' Vibrants, and they say they didn't do anything to train their battery--and I've seen reports, especially on here, of people getting 10 or more hours of use with more usage than I had. I know you train Android and not the battery, but still, I have seen SUCH conflicting information on this that I don't even think it'd be helpful to search anymore (and trust me, I have). So does anyone know about this, definitively? Does the battery life get better after I charge it and discharge it for several days? Should I let it go down to a full discharge or keep it above 35-40%? Does it harm it to keep it plugged in after it finishes charging, or does it have a thing to stop charging the battery and just run off AC once it reaches 100%? Is it too late to train my battery now? Are there any official or reliable large-capacity ones for the G2, like a 1750 mAh?
Thanks,
Rocky
Don't trust the battery meter. Fully charge your phone up, and it runs for forever. I've gone days where I unplugged it at 7:30 AM, and didn't plug it back in until 5:30 AM, and the battery was still above 20%. That was a day of fairly light usage, so that's not necessarily typical; with my normal usage (which is somewhat heavy), it's at about 30% by the time I plug it in at around 10:00 PM. The only time this isn't true is when I go for hours on an Angry Birds marathon :S
I have noticed on all my android phones that the first couple charges seem to drop much faster and each subsequent charge seems to get better. I run mine all day with push work email and vibrate all day and am upset when it is below 65% at 10PM and I unplug it at 7:30 am each day.
But did you guys do the same thing I did (15% then charge overnight) and then get around the same life, on your first day? Is it likely my short charge the first time did any damage? And are there any apps to provide a more accurate battery meter, preferably in place of the stock one?
Thanks,
Rocky
I did nothing special. I put it on charge when I got it but did not do a full charge before leaving work and going home. Did a full charge that night.
I plug it in each night when I go to bed and it has been as high at 70% and as low as 30% depending on how much phone and data time I spent that day.
I unplugged mine today at 7:36am and at 4:06PM it is at 79%.
I use battery indicator from the market. It does not poll and only listens for the OS battery change broadcast so it does not use up battery by running. Some poll and as such use battery to report.
The general thing about Lithium Batteries is that a full discharge is bad if the voltage level goes below a certain point to where the onboard circuits will disable that battery permanently. Most of the time the boards only do that if it's left discharged for a long time I believe, correct me if I'm wrong here.
Ideally, you're not supposed to turn on the phone when you got it. You were supposed to charge it till green and then you could use it, but I'm pretty sure not everyone can resist the temptation to turn on such an awesome phone . The battery life will blow the first week of use. I don't know why, but it just does; you'd have to break in that battery. Then the general rule I follow is to perform a full discharge once a month and then do a full recharge.
I also placed my phone on GSM AUTO PRL but for doing that I just exchanged some low 3G signal threshold for Edge; the extra battery life I got though is just that much more useful to me. Using WCDMA Preferred, the phone just wasted so much
To answer your questions, my experiences with the N1, Vibrant, and G2... battery life just blows in the beginning but gets better with use. The first charge you did shouldn't have damaged the battery but I think you may have wasted 2 of the possible 400-500 cycles that battery is capable of doing what you did. Finally, I use BatteryTime by Motalen for the status bar battery indicator which shows the % left.
Yeah, it just sucks because the guy at the store literally put my SIM card in and then turned it on and handed it to me. I probably wouldn't have turned it on until it had charged if he hadn't, or at least I like to think so.
So it's good to do the discharge thing once a month, and probably not bad for the battery to let it dip down as long as I don't prolong it too much? And I'm okay to just charge it and use it during the day, basically, from now on?
Does battstat poll the battery or just listen?
SeReaction said:
The battery life will blow the first week of use. I don't know why, but it just does; you'd have to break in that battery. Then the general rule I follow is to perform a full discharge once a month and then do a full recharge.
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Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
grennis said:
Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
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See but if that's true then I can only expect 4.5-5 hours of battery life which is not what the G2's supposed to get. Which means either I DID mess up my battery instead of just running through some cycles, or I have a bad one, but not horribly bad, just for some reason only like 60% as good as everyone else's. I do agree about the novelty thing (it's my first smartphone), but understand I was not really doing all that much when I drained my battery like I said. Not nearly as much as it should take.
aacrabtree said:
The only time this isn't true is when I go for hours on an Angry Birds marathon :S
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Those damn birds aren't content to kill pigs; they have to go after our batteries too!
grennis said:
Nonsense. The battery runs down fast the first week because you got a new toy and you can't help playing with it all the time. After a while the novelty wears off and you use it a lot less. The battery doesnt just magically get better
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I'm hoping that's the case. I remember receiving my N1 and I got to relive my childhood days for 12 straight hours. Regardless it's pretty sad to say that I leave my G2 at home while at work and it's down from 100% to ~60% with Wifi on (and with it staying on in the advanced settings) and GSM Auto PRL; I work a 8 hours shift. I left my N1 at home to mess with my G2 at work and my N1 went from 100% to ~80%.
Those 100 extra milliamphrs shouldn't do that much of a difference. Not to mention the N1 is slower and on a 65nm process. Did I also mention that both my G2 and N1 run the same services and 3G is also disabled on my G2 since I don't have my new SIM activated yet? Also, Latitude is always on for my N1.
It's just my experience though. I'll give this a good thorough test when I get the time. That or pony up for an extended battery.
On the other hand, my wife's GalaS is doing just fine in terms of battery life. Matching my N1 with the same settings and services.