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Hello everybody,
Does wm support partitions?
So can I split up my 8 gb sd card into two partitions of 4?
Or does wm not support this?
Thanks!
Hope you don't mind me asking, but what for ?
E.g.
Partition one:
Haret > Android
Partition two:
Multimedia stuff + wm
or
Partiton one:
Multimedia
Partition 2
Program files and stuff
There is no need as both Andriod and WM6.x can see Fat/Fat32, which I presume your SD card is formatted.
If you want to separate your media from any programs you want to install on the sd card just use a different folder.
Plugging your SD card into you TP2 is the same as plugging it into your desktop / laptop whatever the OS.
Would you partition a SD card that was plugged into your desktop ?
If you want to partition the SD, try it and let us know... however i think that it will appear as 2 storage cards in explorer.
I will give it a try
It is possible but not usable...
I also searched around on the internet and it works
But I am back at one sd card since I find folders easier than 2 storage cards.
rick94 said:
E.g.
Partition one:
Haret > Android
Partition two:
Multimedia stuff + wm
or
Partiton one:
Multimedia
Partition 2
Program files and stuff
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I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
kain144000 said:
I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
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WM doesn't work with NTFS
It used to..
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I remember some time ago on Aximsite or another older related site reading how to format NTFS and use a Compact Flash card on Windows Mobile. I did it on my Axim and Ipaq at the time, and kind of remember it working.
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I know. However, if there're two partitions, NTFS @ ~8.5GB and FAT32 @ ~7.5GB, then I'd imagine that Windows would see the storage card as two drives, while Windows Mobile would see the 16GB, storage card as ~7.5GB. Anyone, please, do correct me if I'm wrong in my assumption.
This has made me wonder, too. Why does WM refer to "Storage Card 1" occasionally when inserting/unplugging memory cards...? It kinda implies that there is room for multiple cards at the same time...????
Chris
i partitioned my 16 gig hard drive and installed linksys on one partition so i can plug into my computer and dual boot from my phone...
i dont really see a reason to create multiple partitions to have the same function as folders (ie seperating media from doc, ext...)
kain144000 said:
I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
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You would not gain anything by formatting NTFS other than the ability to set NTFS permissions in Windows. A movie can be stored on a FAT/FAT32 partition with no ill affect on usability. Also, when you purchase any type of storage, the actual formatted size is usually smaller than the advertised size. So if you buy a 16GB card, you will most likely end up with around 15GB max of usable space. I would not plan on having 7.5GB of free space after creating a 8.5GB partition.
htcfan78 said:
You would not gain anything by formatting NTFS other than the ability to set NTFS permissions in Windows...I would not plan on having 7.5GB of free space after creating a 8.5GB partition.
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No, you'd also be able to support files larger than 2GB. And, I know it wouldn't be 7.5GB, that's why I'd said about (~). Prob more like 6.8GB, or so.
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I know NTFS doesn't work on Windows Mobile. However, I would assume that if you were to make two partitions, one NTFS, and the other FAT32, the Windows Mobile device would show the FAT32 partition, while a Windows dsktp would show the microSDHC as two partitions, NTFS and FAT32. I've ordered a 16GB microSDHC Class 6, and I'll post my results after I receive, partition and format the card.
Okay. So've received my 16GB microSDHC Class 6, and have partitioned and formatted with Paragon Partition Manager Pro v9.0, and have...
Partition 1 - microSDHC N, 8.61GB NTFS
Partition 2 - microSDHC, 6.24GB FAT32
The device sees the FAT32 partition, as intended. Windows (Vista), however, shows only the 1st partition (NTFS) of the microSD, even when using the device in Disk Drive USB mode. Disk Management sees the FAT32 partition, but no matter what options I select, I'm met with
Code:
An unexpected error has occurred. Check the System Event Log for more information on the error...
At this point, I just need Windows to allow me to give the partition a drive letter. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
in the start search bar type computer managment then go to storage/disk management select the disk and then right click and change letter.
thats supposed to let you change the letter i have to deal with this alot at work with all the network drives and my externals
hope this helps
shigeo said:
...change letter...thats supposed to let you change the letter
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I'd tried this believing that Windows only needed to assign a drive letter, but to no avail. :\
Well, I was using macdrive and it worked good.. installed in windows 8 some days ago and I had to repair PC... BSOD on boot... I tried paragon HFS+ and I had to repair again.. any suggestion to read and write HFS+ on windows without repair PC after every installation of such programs?
It's always a ***** reading/writing to HFS+ drives from Windows and reading NTFS drives on Mac on Lion or Mountain Lion.
If I could suggest something, transfer all the files on the HFS Drive to a temporary location or folder and then on a Mac using Disk Utility erase the HFS drive and format it as ExFat.
ExFat is NTFS like, it can also transfer files bigger than 4GB and it works out of the box on both OS X and Windows.
Hit thanks if I helped
After finding exfat files in the filesystem I formatted my external sd as exfat and the phone recognized and used it with no problems.
I am currently backing up my internal sd card to do the same
Note doing a format from storage settings still uses fat32 so format the card in a computer or unmount the card in the phone and use a adb shell to run
mkfs.exfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
after backing it up since you are formatting.
shadowofdarkness said:
After finding exfat files in the filesystem I formatted my external sd as exfat and the phone recognized and used it with no problems.
I am currently backing up my internal sd card to do the same
Note doing a format from storage settings still uses fat32 so format the card in a computer or unmount the card in the phone and use a adb shell to run
mkfs.exfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
after backing it up since you are formatting.
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Will backup my sd and try it, have you experienced any problems?
no problems with external but don't do the internal it didn't work for me it's still hard coded for fat32
shadowofdarkness said:
no problems with external but don't do the internal it didn't work for me it's still hard coded for fat32
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I don't know if you looked in the vold.fstab file but I noticed this code in there while I was looking at how to swap internal SD cards: -
# internal sdcard
{
ums_sys_path = /sys/class/android_usb/f_mass_storage/lun0/file
secure_format = enable
discard = enable
supported_exfat = disable
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The last line there sort of indicates that support is there but someone needs to try adjusting it I guess to test
bigdyl69 said:
I don't know if you looked in the vold.fstab file but I noticed this code in there while I was looking at how to swap internal SD cards: -
The last line there sort of indicates that support is there but someone needs to try adjusting it I guess to test
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It may be possible but I am not going to worry to much especially since I need to leave one as fat32 or else lose most CWM functionality since it doesn't support exfat.
if you format the card to exfat, does it work properly if you connect the phone in mass storage?
andreimazz said:
if you format the card to exfat, does it work properly if you connect the phone in mass storage?
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I had no problem using mass storage with the exfat formatted card. That is on my laptop that is running Linux with the exfat fuse modules.
shadowofdarkness said:
I had no problem using mass storage with the exfat formatted card. That is on my laptop that is running Linux with the exfat fuse modules.
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but on windows that would not work, it does not support exfat, right?
andreimazz said:
but on windows that would not work, it does not support exfat, right?
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of course it would, Microsoft created exfat.
I'd love to switch to exFAT for its advantages, but I just know if I switched to it, I would have to go back to FAT32 when I use CyanogenMod, namely due to the fact that you have to get patent licenses and crap from Microsoft to be able to implement exFAT, which I assume Samsung must hold so they can use it on their phones and TVs.
What we really want is MTP fully working on Linux and for the internal and external SD cards to be in EXT2/4 or something like that, and then it would keep both Windows and Linux users happy and we would have better file size support and performance.
That's my 2 cents.
hillbeast said:
I'd love to switch to exFAT for its advantages, but I just know if I switched to it, I would have to go back to FAT32 when I use CyanogenMod, namely due to the fact that you have to get patent licenses and crap from Microsoft to be able to implement exFAT, which I assume Samsung must hold so they can use it on their phones and TVs.
What we really want is MTP fully working on Linux and for the internal and external SD cards to be in EXT2/4 or something like that, and then it would keep both Windows and Linux users happy and we would have better file size support and performance.
That's my 2 cents.
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I know that would be great if it happened. I know before I realized exfat worked I had mine ext4 and used a app to mount it but it had little drawbacks that this native support fixes.
Plus now I can connect my digital camera to my phone via OTG since it has a 64GB sdxc card that uses exfat which is another major plus. I always hated being out and not able to get my photos off it and passed out to other people until I got home and to a computer.
Hi, is it possible for our TN 7 to have exFAT support?
My SD CARD don't work with FAT32, NTFS or EXT4 fs, I tried to fromat it from Linux and Windows as well, always some problems.
t0m3k__ said:
Hi, is it possible for our TN 7 to have exFAT support?
My SD CARD don't work with FAT32, NTFS or EXT4 fs, I tried to fromat it from Linux and Windows as well, always some problems.
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You may need to do a full format of the partition table.
Format sdcard in MSDOS then make fat32 partition. For any modern memory or storage, use GPT format and then make partitions to suit. Partitions are best in fat32 or ext4.
GParted is a partition manger GUI for Linux that should do the job.
Any update on this?
Does the TN7 support exFat formatted sd-cards or only Fat32. Would be quite a bummer ... due to the 4gb file-size limitation exFAT or NTFS (not happening for sure) would be highly prefered.
Edit (i think i found the official answer)
w_w_w.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=59464
Well ... bummer!
Is there a possibility to add exFAT support through other means? A modded ROM maybe? Or a "patch"? (i read that there is something for the Galaxy S3 with CM10.1 and that CM11 supports exFAT from the start.)
DC-TeaAge said:
Any update on this?
Does the TN7 support exFat formatted sd-cards or only Fat32. Would be quite a bummer ... due to the 4gb file-size limitation exFAT or NTFS (not happening for sure) would be highly prefered.
Edit (i think i found the official answer)
w_w_w.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=59464
Well ... bummer!
Is there a possibility to add exFAT support through other means? A modded ROM maybe? Or a "patch"? (i read that there is something for the Galaxy S3 with CM10.1 and that CM11 supports exFAT from the start.)
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I tried for a while with different apps to get another file system to work, but never could get it figured out. No matter what I did, fat32 is the only thing I could get to work.
Hi, is it possible for our TN 7 to have exFAT support?
My SD CARD don't work with FAT32, NTFS or EXT4 fs, I tried to fromat it from Linux and Windows as well, always some problems.
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Use "Bootice" by "www.ipauly.com" to format the sd card to FAT,FAT32,NTFS. Or you can try some another windows utility to format (I think your windows right click format fn is not working properly.) There are various options to choose, choose "partition editor -> your sd card -> create partition table as USB-HDD" option. This will recreate the partition table of the sd card.
I have tested exFAT with TN7, but it doesn't work. FAT,FAT32,NTFS work. I think EXT2/3/4 will not work with sd cards.
If those devices would at least support ext4 on their sd-cards ... just for files >4gb.
Thanks, will try bootice.
TEGRA NOTE 7 compatible micro SD card file system
I bought a 64GB micro SD that the TEGRA NOTE wouldn't read. As it turned out the problem was caused by the exFat file system on the card that the T.N. wouldn't even recognize. NTFS is recognized but it is read only and finally FAT32 is fully recognized, I am now able to read and write on my SD card. I used bootice by Pauly to perform the operations as suggested above, chose "USB-HDD" option and all is OK now.
Ok, android is supposed to be just fine with Ext and NTFS right?
Well i've got S4, kitkat 4.4.2 and 64GB original super fast microsd card and guess what, i formatted it first Ext4 then NTFS because i needed more than 4GB files and for both it says "SD card is blank or has unsupported filesystem."
both times formatted under linux desktop PC
the default formatting from the phone seems to be either FAT or exfat but files over 4GB can't be written. (exfat is supposed to do over 4gb right?)
So, what i'm doing wrong?
Fking1 said:
Ok, android is supposed to be just fine with Ext and NTFS right?
Well i've got S4, kitkat 4.4.2 and 64GB original super fast microsd card and guess what, i formatted it first Ext4 then NTFS because i needed more than 4GB files and for both it says "SD card is blank or has unsupported filesystem."
both times formatted under linux desktop PC
the default formatting from the phone seems to be either FAT or exfat but files over 4GB can't be written. (exfat is supposed to do over 4gb right?)
So, what i'm doing wrong?
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Official Galaxy S4 doesnt support NTFS (not sure about Ext4). but there are some custom kernels that can deal with NTFS.
I found this on wikipedia:
exFat advantages: File size limit of 16 EiB–1 byte (limited by volume size), raised from 4 GiB−1 byte in a standard FAT32 filesystem.
so I guess yes it can handle files more than 4GBs, I haven't tried it myself.
Use the official SD formatter tool, it formats cards with 64 GB and larger using the exfat system.
just google: official SD formatter
DuLLaG33 said:
Official Galaxy S4 doesnt support NTFS (not sure about Ext4). but there are some custom kernels that can deal with NTFS.
I found this on wikipedia:
exFat advantages: File size limit of 16 EiB–1 byte (limited by volume size), raised from 4 GiB−1 byte in a standard FAT32 filesystem.
so I guess yes it can handle files more than 4GBs, I haven't tried it myself.
Use the official SD formatter tool, it formats cards with 64 GB and larger using the exfat system.
just google: official SD formatter
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With the build in formatting tool is what I use to format it, but then I can't write a 30GB file
in the file size limit you mention " File size limit of 16 EiB–1 byte" what's EiB?
Fking1 said:
So, what i'm doing wrong?
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If it's a cheap and therefor most probably fake SD card this can also be a problem. Most cheap 64GB cards do not have the advertized capacity.
Fking1 said:
what's EiB?
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Eib is Exabyte = a million terabyte
Pfeffernuss said:
If it's a cheap and therefor most probably fake SD card this can also be a problem. Most cheap 64GB cards do not have the advertized capacity.
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nah, it's expensive and tested that it has the actual GBs
Fking1 said:
...and tested that it has the actual GBs
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How?
Pfeffernuss said:
How?
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by running an sd card tester app from the market, 2 of them actually
it's real card, i've had fakes before
Fking1 said:
by running an sd card tester app from the market, 2 of them actually
it's real card, i've had fakes before
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I Always format my SD cards using Minitool (PC app). Never missed a beat.
If this doesn't work I still think it's a fake SD-card
well it's not, thanks for getting the thread in the wrong direction though!
so does the default bult-in android formatting do FAT or exFAT? It doesn't seem to be possible to tell from the phone?
So, seems like the only way forward is to format it in exFAT?
Fking1 said:
well it's not, thanks for getting the thread in the wrong direction though!
so does the default bult-in android formatting do FAT or exFAT? It doesn't seem to be possible to tell from the phone?
So, seems like the only way forward is to format it in exFAT?
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I am pretty sure it will only format in the style it was originally eg. Original setup of fat32 it will format fat32, if EXfat it will format EXfat.
Ext,1, 2, 3, 4 are all native to android (Linux) so ext4 shouldn't be an issue.
When I formatted my 64Gb card sd formatter did not format it to EXfat I had to do it manually. Please not that windows Xp does not directly support EXfat you need to manually install a patch and then manually format the sd card via cmd window
You'll have to confirm the command but it's something like
Format x: /fs:exfat
This is what I had to do on my old Xp box to do the job.
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Oh btw ntfs is proprietary file system to micro$oft and technically it's closed source, but I read somewhere ages ago someone managed to hack something together that does work
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formatted it to exfat and it works now
so for anyone else that wonders here is the summary of what I found
the android on Samsung S4 reads only FAT and exFAT on the SD card.
NTFS and Ext4 it does NOT recognize.
by default it formats FAT
I had to format it exfat on a PC
works now, still haven't tried with files over 4GB but shouldn't be a problem