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Manila on tytnII

Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!

ronald_adi said:
Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!
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1. You'll have to get it through the official HTC site.
2. Manilla is a 'skin' that sits on top of wm6.1, refer to the various threads for install instructions.
3. Currently release 19b, but be aware its no where near 'complete' - it functions but no way i could use it daily on my TyTnII.
4. Maybe. Probably not. Try it and let us know.

ronald_adi said:
Hi. I am brand new to this site and have been reading for 3 hrs now. i have found a lot but still unsure how to solve my issue and get the right software.
i am hoping an experienced member can help me quickly.
I have a TYTN II and would like to get Touch Flo 2 (Manilla) on it. Thus I have 3 questions:
1. I want to upgrade to WM 6.1. Do I do that upgrade first via the HTC web site? Or does the manila upgrade include WM 6.1?
2. Does the installation of manilla include the OS or it is just as simple as installing a program?
3. Can u please point me in the direction of the latest stable version of Manila for the TYTN II without any fancy skins. I want the original skin.
4. And finally, i have an older MDA running WM5. Will manila work on it? Or is this asking too much?
Many Many thanks in advance !!
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yes it works with TYTN II (also called kaiser) actualy it works 100% with some of the cooked roms you find in the Kaiser forum. and it's perfectly capable of day to day use. if release 19b is not usefull for day to day use then go for a cooked rom because all of them are perfect for day to day use.
I've been runing manila 2d on all my devices for weeks without any problems.

ok thanks mate !

Problem could have easily been answered / solved by reading. Closing thread.

HP Voice Messenger ROM?!? 530 - I've FOUND THE ROM! BUT IT'S IN CHINISE HELP :D

Hi Guys!!
There's any Rom for th Hp VoiceMessenger?
EDIT: there's?!? Yes! http://www.ioicn.com.cn/forum/thread-346491-1-2.html
But it's in chinese, how to swicht in WWE?
Suggestions?!

Gibla said:
Hi Guys!!
My home screen really sucks....how can I customise it?
Maybe there's some plugin...like the Excalibur?!?
PLS HELP!
any suggestions?!?
Let me know!!!
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this is a good one
your today screen is just like wm6.5 if i think of it your all wm is like the wm6.5
(but with no touch screen)
users are tring all day long 2 get there devive 2 work like yours
anyway as for nav app i know tomtom have a Version 4 sp - smart phone (no touch screen )
windows mobile standard
as 4 your today screen googe 4 SBSH apps (apps 4 SP)
good luck
(nice device)
btw - how is your camera app? if i remember it wasn't so great but i tried this device when it was beta

Hi Erezyad!!
Yes, the home screen is like 6.5....but there's no buttun to change the panels
In the center there's something like a touchpad button, as the lateral Joggr in the Excalibur. I found a small HP Cab to choose the settings for that pad yesterday and now is better EVVAI!
I'd like to custumize the home screen, maybe it's possible to chage the icons or stuff like that.
Is really a good device, but now there's just 79 mb free storage on 256 mb.....that's a problem!! Why?!?
For the gps: I'm using Garmin XT, on COM 7 but no fix....what I have to do?
The camera program....it's pretty much difficul to use the digital zoom but I guess that it's possible to use the custum HTC program....I have to try it-!
Finally: no other people is interested here?!? There's only me?

first the device is called ipaq 530
as 4 icones this app is 4 pocket pc check if it works 4 u
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21828
u can also find on xda how 2 do it yourself (notepad....)
if i had such device first thing i was looking 4 was an app that will get me a pointer like a mouse (like the sumsung i780)
this way u can use the sensor u have 2 work with ppc apps(wm pro)
the sensor u have is like the ipaq 800 (data messenger) on hp rom (not vodaphone) they have such mouse meybe somone with ipaq ipaq data messenger can extract it from the rom (i had the vodaphone ver)
79mb ram is more then ok 4 wm pro, 4 sp it is a lot!! most devices that have 128/256 and have things like wm6.5 or manila have a lot less
as 4 rom u can get microsd so....
i remember the softkey of this device was very soft and with the sensor ("dpad") u dont need touch screen
(the device was good looking in my hand )
maybe i will get one soon
if so i wil try 2 help u more by tring gps apps...
(dot have it now so cannot help a lot,sorry )

EREZYAD said:
first the device is called ipaq 530
as 4 icones this app is 4 pocket pc check if it works 4 u
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21828
u can also find on xda how 2 do it yourself (notepad....)
if i had such device first thing i was looking 4 was an app that will get me a pointer like a mouse (like the sumsung i780)
this way u can use the sensor u have 2 work with ppc apps(wm pro)
the sensor u have is like the ipaq 800 (data messenger) on hp rom (not vodaphone) they have such mouse meybe somone with ipaq ipaq data messenger can extract it from the rom (i had the vodaphone ver)
79mb ram is more then ok 4 wm pro, 4 sp it is a lot!! most devices that have 128/256 and have things like wm6.5 or manila have a lot less
as 4 rom u can get microsd so....
i remember the softkey of this device was very soft and with the sensor ("dpad") u dont need touch screen
(the device was good looking in my hand )
maybe i will get one soon
if so i wil try 2 help u more by tring gps apps...
(dot have it now so cannot help a lot,sorry )
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I found that finger mouse!
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=758
and here some fixes from HP official site:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...sId=3806508&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=4036
I'm trying Sygic Maporama for the GPS....finger crossed!!
Do you have you Voice Messenger already?

Gibla said:
I found that finger mouse!
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=758
and here some fixes from HP official site:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...sId=3806508&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=4036
I'm trying Sygic Maporama for the GPS....finger crossed!!
Do you have you Voice Messenger already?
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dont have it yet
will try 2 get one of a friend (if i can)
anyway after getting one i will need 2 go over all function and edit option
then...
will keep u updated

COOL
I will wait I have to try to extract for doing something.... :S

So? There's any news? No one is intrested in a New Rom for that device?

Interested, yes!
Ain't got the know-how to make one, so no can do.
Come to think of it i don't even have a Voice Messenger yet

ROM 6.5 FOUND!!!
Here: http://www.ioicn.com.cn/forum/thread-346491-1-2.html
But it's in chinise
HeLLLLLLpppppppp how to add the wwe?!

hi,you also can download the 6.1&6.5rom from www.i3x.cc,i made all of them,and they are multilanguage,include english,when the rom bootup,you can go to start-setting-regional settings to change it to english
good luck~

gabby2006 said:
hi,you also can download the 6.1&6.5rom from www.i3x.cc,i made all of them,and they are multilanguage,include english,when the rom bootup,you can go to start-setting-regional settings to change it to english
good luck~
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the like is broken
i entered this site and found the voice messenger threads
but
is it 4 the ipaq 530- the one with the gps?
(not the 510/2/4)
do u have screen shots (links...) of this rom?
can u upload 2 megauplod one (or more ) of your roms?
can u upload your tools?
tnx 4 the link

ipaq 530 bl mode
device fully off (take out battery ..)
press&hold key num 8 and power at the same time
only thing needed is the rom (and 4 me also the ipaq 530 )
maybe u can find someone that knows chinese
http://www.i3x.cc/forumdisplay.php?fid=76

Hi, I asked to translate....and someguys here on XDa told me that that ROMs are only in chinese...that was written in the forum...
So what we have to do? Please GABBY help us

first,530=voicemessenger
second,what i made the rom,wm6.1andwm6.5 are also multilanguage,include 0409(US English)and 0804(chinese)
there's two way you can use it in english
first way is flash the rom,and forrow the steps:
when the rom bootup,you can go to start-setting-regional settings to change it to english
second way is to do quite easy cook by the rom:
extra the rom and edit the default.hv&user.hv
change the system language to english(SysLan=0409)
i was busy on cooking DataMessenger rom and Treo pro rom,so haven't so many times to help you do it.
if next month onbody did a wwe 6.5rom for yous.i will do it for you.
p.s.sorry erveryone,my english is very poor.......

Hi Gabby,
as I written in the other thread I tryed to download the ROM but without success...
will be grat if you will upload the 6.1 and 6.5 on 4shared or Rapidshare if it's possible.
Thank you for you efforts!

http://rapidshare.com/files/279033269/HP_VoiceMessenger_WM61CHSv1Full.rar.html
i upload here
the wm6.5 rom which i made was not really a 6.5 core
voicemessenger's xip part is so strange,if i cook it and flash,it will can't boot.
so the wm6.5 rom is only contain sys part update.

Thanks for the link. Let us know if someone installs it and how it works. I will also download it and try to install it. By the way has someone the original rom in case something goes wrong???

ba upgrade wm6 to 6.5

Hi can anyone please tell me how to upgrade my ba to wm 6.5 from wm 6? , i used the wizard to upgrade from wm2003 to wm6 about 2 yrs ago, any help much appreciated, love this pda and i love using it as a phone too

basicly, when your device is already upgraded, there is not much to do.
you probably don't have to worry about sim lock and radio roms and storage sizes anymore, since apparently, it all worked fine so far.
so all you need to do is download any wm6.5 rom, unpack it, and make a RUU folder, containing the rom itself (nk.nbf) and a few other files named for example maupgradeut_noid.exe and getdevicedata and so on.
then you hard reset your device by pressing camera+record+power+reset and set the menu options clear registry hive and format storage to "YES" and enable kitl to "NO" using the camera and record buttons to flip and switch, confirm that with the mail button.
then you put your device into bootloader mode by pressing reset+record+power, kill active sync, connect the device to the pc and start maupgradeut_noid. if the 2nd screen shows you at least the version of the rom you go to, you are fine and can start the upgrade.
as soon as it is finished, use the hard reset method described above to prepare the device for the first start and then you might want to use "getting started" on the device to set it up and set up sync to get your pim data back. i shortened this description as you might remember a lot of stuff, or so i hope. most of what i wrote should ring a bell, if not, please feel free to have a look in the wizard for upgrades from wm5 to wm6 -=here=- or simply ask again, what troubles you.
with best regards
Chef_Tony

hi Tony thanks 4 ure help, when u say any rom is that only those specific for ba or are they all universal? i downloaded WM65-23052 & EnergyROM_RAPHAEL_20090811_Titanium or should i stick to the ones on the ba wizard page eg r6? i guess its the latter

of course you can only use blueangel roms found in the ba wm6 section, i mean, if you have a dvd writer that can read any disk, you wouldn't shove a slice of salami in there, would you?
the roms are so far interchangable as being WWE and work with every BA worldwide, but you need a blueangel rom, because of the rom's structure, memory consumption, drivers and so on, and after all, the buttons and the display resolution.
i once had a case, where someone tried to flash a charmer rom to a ba, that rom was way too big, and also the files were completely different, so he couldn't get through with it on his own and asked, because he would have messed up his ba with that pretty bad.
so, conclusively, 23052 builds are nice, but wait, till it's coming for the BA. i think d-two is working on it, maybe you want to have a look at the 23004 german rom thread, i asked him and he is gonna make an english version too, but until then you might want to catch status updates there.

Tony thanks it worked awsome phone, i used xplodes english rom, is there much difference between that & the german one? who needs an iphone eh again many thanks will lookout for d2s new ba release cheers

with the current releases there are no major differences between d-two's and xplode's build (except for the language) but what i wrote was about the next builds, they're both working on 23047 or 23052 builds, but d-two has the advantage that he has overcome the know sync and sms bugs, so his build will probably be the first of those two to come out. although he is rather new to this forum and so far he only supported his own wm6.5 build 23004 german, that is a guy you better keep an eye on. he is making fast progress and maybe will become one of the major chefs soon.

hi again please can you tell me how to do a wm6.5 hard reset & also how to get into into bootloader mode as to reload a new rom eg d2's, also i did notice there were 2 excel icons in msoffice maybe a bug many thanks

actually i solved it myself, just gotta be quicker with the camera & record buttons cheers

Hi Tony everything on explodes exroms installed ok except jbed, is that java? Also i looked at xplodes manila thats really nice, i guess thats on the latest phones , its like a mini o/s, so u would just install that after u install a 6.5 rom?

yes, jbed is the java applet manager.
for manila, i wouldn't say it is a mini os, it is more of an alternative gui, it replaces the titanium today screen with a touchflo one, but it also just features basic functions, photo viewing, music playing and does not alter the start menu or any add-on apps, most of the functions are also available in titanium or for titanium as an add-in, let's say facebook or stuff like that.
the time to install doesn't really matter, you can also install other apps first, whatever, you only need to know that after you install it, you have to deactivate "default" in today plug-ins and also all the others, because you can have only manila as your today plugin then and then you should find a "touch to start touchflo" button on your today screen and then you'll see, whether it works or not. that really depends from user to user, and between the different devices, roms, countries and manila versions, maybe you have to try several versions before you actually find one that runs in an acceptable speed, because that seems to be the general issue when it comes to porting manila.

thanks i may just stick 2 what i have, d2,s new 6.5.1 rom is beta so would that except xplodes extrom 23004 cabs? or is it best to wait for him to put his own one out?

thanks i may just stick with what i have, D2's new rom 6.5.1 is that compatible with xplodes 23004 extrom or is it best to wait for d2 to bring his own one out?

d-two said he wanted to release one, maybe till the weekend he's done putting it together.

[Q] Hp iPaq hw6515 & Windows Mobile 5/6/6.5

Hello, is it possible to put Windows Mobile 5 or 6 or 6.5 in this device? If yes,
how?

The answer is yes...
and no...
Yes you could upgrade your OS - but maybe it hasn't been done yet for your device...
So no there may not be an easy fix.
You may want to look at my thread to see what I've been going through trying to upgrade an old iPAQ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981868
Curious though - if I look up your device on www.pdadb.net there is a secondary search result in their repository. A WM 6.1 ROM for HTC Kaiser. I don't have any idea if you could flash a Kaiser ROM to your device which is codenamed: HTC Beetles.
There may be a reason that they cross reference Beetles and Kaiser. (It works both ways - search one and you get a secondary result for the other.) So that might be one avenue for you to explore.

v1nc3nt_valiant said:
Hello, is it possible to put Windows Mobile 5 or 6 or 6.5 in this device? If yes,
how?
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No, it's not possible - hw6500 Series iPAQs never got WM5 ROM. And if there is no WM5 ROM for your device - you can't get anything higher than WM2003SE.
RumoredNow said:
A WM 6.1 ROM for HTC Kaiser. I don't have any idea if you could flash a Kaiser ROM to your device which is codenamed: HTC Beetles.
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You can't flash other devices ROMs. hTC Kaiser and hTC Beetles are two completely different phones.
ROMs are device-specific, so never try to flash any other ROM that was not made for your device, even if the specs seems to be the same.

Thanks Spiaatie,
It is good to have someone with proven experience weigh in and help those of us who are just now tinkering with these old devices...

[Q] How to install WM6.5 on a WM 7 Device ?!!!

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me wha the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.

Your only choice may be a new 6.5 device, and not much else. The HTC HD2 is still available, here in the UK, it is now the only 6.5 device stocked by Expansys on their web site.
How much longer will they be around? What's HTC's roadmap for the WinMo HD2?
Flashing 6.5 over a Phone 7 device, is asking for an expensive error.

stephj said:
Your only choice may be a new 6.5 device, and not much else. The HTC HD2 is still available, here in the UK, it is now the only 6.5 device stocked by Expansys on there web site.
How much longer will they be around? What's HTC's roadmap for the WinMo HD2?
Flashing 6.5 over a Phone 7 device, is asking for an expensive error.
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I know that HD2 is the Only WM 6.5 device that still Availble but the problem is that HD2 Doesn't have a QWERTY keypad and the system required a lot of Typing.
Thank you for your support.

Hi mka00,
If you can't find new WinMo device with qwerty keyboard it is possible to use if the course its acceptable as an option the mini bluetooth keyboard.

icpart said:
Hi mka00,
If you can't find new WinMo device with qwerty keyboard it is possible to use if the course its acceptable as an option the mini bluetooth keyboard.
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Good point.
thank you my Friend.

winmo 6.5 available
hi friend i can provide u samsung omnia pro 5(GT-B6520) Windows mobile 6.5 std. No limit for quantity. contact me if u r interested.

How about touch pro 2?
I don't think it isn't sales is dead yet. Its a nice device though.

ebay is your friend, serously, you can find all sorts of new stuff on there, im on the hunt for a nackard HD2 just now so i can strip the digitiser out of it