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Xperia GPS malfunction

Hi
I wonder if someone has this same problem and know how to solve it...
Most of the times that i try to use tomtom or wayfinder, the gps can't get a fix, it locks on to the satelites with no problem, but only for 1/2 seconds, then loses the position and after some 10s it regains the position again for another 1/2s and loses it again...
The only i way can get the gps to function properly again is by turning the phone off, remove the battery and turn it back on. Then it works, but if i turn off tomtom and try to use wayfinder the problem returns, and sometimes also happens after i close tomtom and try to use it again later...
It's driving me nuts i did a hard reset and after instaling my programs the problem remains. It seems google maps works ok, tho i'm not sure as the program doesn't have the option to see to how many satelites it's locked on.
any ideas? I doubt it's from the programs i install cause the ones i use i dw them all from this forum...
Thanks

its probably your location, the satellites might not be abundant enough. GPS works fine for me, I'm using IGO8.

no, it's not that, cause when it happens i remove the battery and reinsert and turn on the phone again, and after doing that procedure the gps will lock with some 6/7 satellites and will not fail as long as i don't turn off the first program i try to use the gps with ...
If i use tomtom after doing that battery removal procedure, it will work flawlessly, if i turn off tomtom and use it right after, it still works ok, but, if i turn off tomtom and after i use wayfinder, or if i only use tomtom again after some hours, it will have that problem (and vice-versa), it does find the same satellites and gets the coordinates (in tomtom they get those blue level bars), but only for very brief moments every 10/15s which ofc makes it impossible to correctly use the navigation program
If the gps was broken or something it wouldn't work ok after i removed the battery... i guess i'll try another hard reset

Try to disable A-GPS.

possible corrupt quick gps file , run quick gps and downoad new file.

Hi,
If you have used Advanced Config and enabled A-GPS, disable it as it will cause issues with TomTom and other GPS navigation software.
Later...

hehe got it working now, i had tried that before, but seems i was using an older version of advanced config or something, i downloaded a new version, disabled a-gps and now the gps is working fine thanks for the help

Re elusivo
Elusivo, could post how you fixed your problem? Because I currently have the same problem, but no Idea how to fix it. You said something about using a new configuration with and old one? Can you please explain?

Search for the program 'Advanced Config' on the forum and install it and then run it. Go to the GPS section and if A-GPS is enabled disable it. A-GPS uses the phone masts to triangulate and get your position which causes havoc when you are trying to use the internal GPS

Thanks for that......Problem solved

hello
I do have the saame issue as you with my gps. I install Igo, tomtom, gps htc tools and gps skinner and it is always 20/30sec to get a fix but it loses it 1 sec after.
If I disable A-Gps, it will increase the time to fix satellites or is it just used for quiick gps to download ephemerids???.
I think we have to ask Customer support because it is unacceptable for such an ewxpensive phone to have to disable functionalities such as A-gps to get it to work

pyrofrag said:
If I disable A-Gps, it will increase the time to fix satellites or is it just used for quiick gps to download ephemerids???
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A-GPS uses Cell Towers to guess where you are. It is not (on these phones anyway) linked to Quick GPS which is a lot better at getting you a fix on a cold start.
As others have mentioned for some reason with A-GPS enabled TomTom doesn't like it, and I don't know of any real reason to use it.

@artesea : I don't get why you said "I don't know of any real reason to use it".
Are you talking about Tomtom or about A-GPS function ??
Because if you are speaking about Tomtom, I do have similar problem with all software using GPS.
And if you disable A-GPS function you are going to have to wait may be 3 minutes or more to get a fix instead of 40seconds so I think this is a real reason to use it...

No I'm talking about A-GPS.
Have you tried a cold start using Quick GPS, I can get a location in under 30 seconds.

So I disable A-GPS and I got fix within 30/40 seconds and I never lost it.
I just think it is absolutely unbearable to have to disable A-GPS to get your GPS working properly. This mobile phone cost 700€
I just would like to know what is protocol version from people who can have A-GPS working properly.
Rom version : 1.02.933.3
Radio version : 52.43.25.24W

So you've gone from 20/30 seconds to get a fix but then it drops, to 30/40 seconds to get a fix and it work and you STILL have a problem???
Maybe there is a reason why A-GPS is disabled by default!

No when I disable A-GPS I don't have problem any more.
I just remembered that I may have enable A-GPS through Advanced Config.
Hard reset do not change this, I though it was a registry editor value but apparently it is more than that.
Anyway it is not Xperia X1 issue but Advanced Config compatibility with Xperia X1

having problems with gps now too :/ later it was working brilliant (fix in no time), but now, most of the time i dont even see any satellite...
but sometimes, especially after reset, it shows like 5-6 satellites, but cant get fix, after some time sats just disappear :X tried disabling/enabling a-gps, with/without quick gps file downloaded, still the same... and no answer anywhere...
i guess i'll have to use my warranty and get it serviced :/
edit: today reflashed radio one more time (as yesterday after like 5 radio flashes, i ended on the original version, not the newest one) and suddenly gps is working hope it lasts...

GPS without Data Charges???

Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!

Aaron McCarthy said:
Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!
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I am on Verizon. I don't know the specifics about Telus. If your GPS is unlocked then technically you should be able to use your GPS without your radio being turned on. Even use it with the radio turned on & use TomTom which does not require a data connection.
As far as getting your GPS to work, I don't exactly know if the process is simular to Verizon. Perhaps someone else will lend you a hand. I did find some threads for you though.
Take a look at NFSFAN's ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus+gps&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508544&highlight=telus+gps

I know there is a "hybrid" gps setup on the the vogue that you can tweak in the registry to get only the gps chip to lock. Try searching for "hybrid gps" and such in this forum and the dev/hacking forum. It was discussed at length a little while after the htc rom upgrade releases last year.

If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.

canyoufindben said:
If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.
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Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.

jadesse said:
Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.
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Right, that why I suggested it. Since he won't be using it with service, there's no reason to stick with the stock ROM.

GPS and other settings

I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated

Yes..you have find a big bug in the new rom that you have installed...i think that you have burn the GPS antenna, or the second possibility is that you have to install a new Antenna software..i've a original rom and all is perfect.!!

i havent installed another rom, its the original one that was on the phone, so i couldnt have burnt anything out. i haveng modded the phone in any way just to confirm

I'd try this for the MMS settings:
Tmobile Settings by Email
For the TomTom problem, it is just a case of TomTom not displaying any Satellites, but still getting your location (the screen changes colour and shows your location, to indicate a satellite lock) or does it never give a fix.
Not to insult as I don't know your level of experience with GPS, but try it outside on a clear (not very heavy cloud) day, leaving it stationary for several (upto five I'd say) minutes, and see if it gets a fix?

thansk for the reply,
but the t-mobile link odesnt work as my phone isnt listed there and I cant move forward without selecting one.
The tom tom screen is grey as if it doesnt have any satellites connected to it, I have tried it on a clear day and same no luck.
In the connections tab under where you can switch the bluetooth, wifi etc on, does the data connection also have to be switched on, of is the data connection for something else?

For tomtom:
Go to settings/AGPS settings and make sure it is turned off - this used to stop tomtom working for me until I updated my ROM.
In tomtom, make sure you've selected 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and COM4 (I found the baud rate does not matter and have it set to the highest value.

thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc

digo21 said:
thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc
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GPS does not cost anything as you are receiving signals from GPS satellites. I don't think you even need a SIM in your phone to use it.
AGPS is data so will come out of your data plan if you have one.

digo21 said:
I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated
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Have you tic the box in the GPS tab (see in the settings) for give the permission to the O.S for taking automatically the control of signal.?

gps with t-mobile usa

I've read that the HD2 has the new snapdragon chip which has built-in GPS. i have the t-mobile usa version. i'm having problems figuring out how to get my gps software to recognize the gps radio. maybe i'm just missing a setting (i hope). is the gps radio even available in the t-mo usa rom or do i need another rom? if i do need another rom, any suggestions?....or pointers in the right direction.
thanks
tom
no data plan
ps - iguidance support is as clueless as i am.

i forgot to mention...
ROM version: 2.10.531.1
Radio version: 2.08.50.08_2
- tom
HTC HD2 USA
Iguidance (gps software)

I think the manual settings are com4, 4800 baud for the gps.
I tried manually setting it in google maps and it worked on Friday.

isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom

tomX2 said:
isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom
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google maps does require data connection. I was just mentioning it since I can change the gps settings there. I vaguely remember that those settings work, so you can try it in your gps program if it doesn't detect automatically.

I used Telenav on my TMOUS HD2 5 minutes after I got my phone and it worked fine without changing any of the settings. I have a dataplan on my phone though.
Is the AGPS service on your phone on? Try turning it off.
Its in settings>Location>AGPS Service.

i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
HTC HD2
iguidance
gps tuner

fyi - i have found out that (through several unhelpful contacts with the manufacturer as well as posts here and elsewhere) iguidance gps does not work with the hd2 (usa)....and the company provides no assistance in this matter.
- tom

tomX2 said:
i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
HTC HD2
iguidance
gps tuner
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There are plenty of other GPS apps that should work with the HD2 that don't require a monthly payment. I'm only using Telenav through the 60 day free trial, and will cancel it afterwards.
Tom Tom, iGo 8, and Navigon all reportedly work for the HD2. You will have to pay for the software and maps, but otherwise there are no monthly expenses. From my understanding, they only require data service if you're using something like traffic updates, or if you're using a trial version and they need use the data service for verification purposes.
I've not tried any other GPS software other than Telenav yet, but I see no reason why they others shouldn't work.

i been using Ndrive and works better then it did on my pro2

[Q] How to use GPS with no internet connection?

Hi, What do I need for my blackstone in order to use any (suggestions, which is better, would be a great help) GPS sowtware without internet connection. I am not an expert in this, but I know that GPS devices (like tom tom or similar) use satellite data to show coordinates. How can this be done on my touch hd? As only preinstalled program is google maps that require internet connection.
I don't have unlimited data plan, so this is extremely expensive for me, but I am a fan of geocatching, so I need GPS.
Please help me with description of how this GPS works and what soft should I use?
Thanks

There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657

bethybabes69 said:
There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657
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Hi, thank for the info, but....
I installed TT7 with my region maps, but I still seem not to receive any GPS signal - my phone seems not to catch any satellite signal - is this a setting issue?

in tomtom7, just access the gps settings and set them to "internal gps receiver", then it should work immediately, given that in your very location you have gps coverage.

I've found that my Touch HD's GPS capabilities work great when I'm at home testing them, then fails to locate any satellites when I'm lost! lol
Not exactly true - but has got me before!
I would suggest that you try your GPS in various locations just to make sure that the building you live / work in, or the weather isn't blocking the signal that your phones GPS listens for...
I used TomTom for ages without issue, it can be copied directly from a memory card on a TomTom compatible device usually.
Recently my Dad bought iGo8 with the entire world maps installed, so I pinched that and run it straight off my storage card with just a few teething problems. This is the best GPS / SatNav on my phone so far...

+1 for iGO8
Best GPS software by far for me. This is the only and single reason why I haven't bought an Android phone yet.
If they would have created the same skinable thing for a HTC Desire etc the HD would be history.
If I were you.
1) disable a-gps, causes roaming costs and most gps application freak out on it (download advanced config tool and disable it that way)
Lock, no lock, lock, ... mostly caused by agps (assisted-gps). Assisted means that it also gets data from the cell-tower which abroad can cost you loads of money (and yes I had that once)
If you use HTC quick gps you will probably get a lock in seconds if you are outside so no need for assisted.
2) install the gps mod driver , this one 'thinks' ahead by calculating points that it gets from the GPS receiver. If you don't feel confident about this one skip it but read the thread and keep it in the back of your head.
3) buy iGO8 and install the gurjon skin which makes iGO look fantastic and makes it fully configurable the way you want it.
4) enjoy a fantastic GPS system