Hi,
As the topic-title says: will reducing clockspeed in standby save battery (noticably)?
I've downloaded a widget to do this but I need to root my phone (1.5 cupcake)
So before doing this I was wondering if this really helps?
I've got Taskiller already to kill my open apps (except some widgets, mail, sms, dxtop etc) automatically when I go in standby mode
Cheers
B
Anyone any idea?
nobody has an answer here, the web seems to be inconclusive, some say yes, others no
cheers
B
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I flashed gbhil's Gumbo 1.5C after being on stock 1.5 for a few days after receiving my phone..normal phone usage, I'd drain in about ~14 hours or so..I charged it all through the night..woke up this morning at about 8 and had to put it back on the charger at about 1pm at 25%..charged it to full and now at 10:55 my phone sits at 25% once again...
Anyone have this issue? gbhil, please don't take this the wrong way at all, your rom is beautiful and so freakin' fast..I LOVE it..just wondering if anyone else is seeing the drain that i'm seeing!
when i ran his rom my battery life was super
scriz said:
I flashed gbhil's Gumbo 1.5C after being on stock 1.5 for a few days after receiving my phone..normal phone usage, I'd drain in about ~14 hours or so..I charged it all through the night..woke up this morning at about 8 and had to put it back on the charger at about 1pm at 25%..charged it to full and now at 10:55 my phone sits at 25% once again...
Anyone have this issue? gbhil, please don't take this the wrong way at all, your rom is beautiful and so freakin' fast..I LOVE it..just wondering if anyone else is seeing the drain that i'm seeing!
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Can we get a list of your apps? It sounds like you have something running in the background continously. Do you have the proximity sensor app? Did you make sure to hit back when you tested it?
i'm constantly closing my apps with Advanced Task Killer...
Apps installed after flash - Myspace, Facebook, Beautiful Widgets, Barcode Scanner, Speedtest.net app, craigsphone, Pkt Auctions, Bubble, Compass, Palringo (just installed, haven't even entered my login info) Backgrounds, Last.fm, Pandora, iheartradio, Dolphin Browser, Ringdroid, HTC's Battery Widget, ASTRO File Manager
scriz said:
i'm constantly closing my apps with Advanced Task Killer...
Apps installed after flash - Myspace, Facebook, Beautiful Widgets, Barcode Scanner, Speedtest.net app, craigsphone, Pkt Auctions, Bubble, Compass, Palringo (just installed, haven't even entered my login info) Backgrounds, Last.fm, Pandora, iheartradio, Dolphin Browser, Ringdroid, HTC's Battery Widget, ASTRO File Manager
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Well, even if you close your apps all the time with the task killer (which you really shouldn't do) -- some of the services for certain applications will continue to run (e.g. FB, Myspace, Battery Widget) -- because they have check for any new updates on your phone. I currently use 1.5c and I haven't had any problems.
Gbhil's 1.5c is built on his custom kernal he made, which has a memory killer itself, so you shouldn't really have to do any extra closing of apps.
I'm afraid I have to echo the OP's battery experience. I'm about as minor as it comes in regards to apps. I don't Eff-Book, no Twitter, no stocks. 15-20 mins on Sprint Navigator (GPS / Location only on for Nav, off when done), 45 mins-ish on the phone, a few texts via HandCent. I wasn't even CLOSE to making it a full day on Gumbo 1.5c, whereas I can usually make it through 2 days on any other ROM. Even Modaco 2.2 with the performance governor outlasted G1.5c by a substantial amount of time.
I trust I've been on these boards long enough and contributed enough that I've shown I know what I'm talking about. And on my phone, default G1.5c is the hands-down winner in sucking my battery dry the quickest.
As for the GCK, I've found similar performance and nearly 3x the battery life by using SetCPU and setting the governor to MSM7K, sliding the min to 480 and max to 524. Then enable profiles > sleep > min 160 max 245
Well, as always -- YYMV.
Aster installing a CPU profiling app, I noticed that my email app is taking up 50% of cpu most of the time. After some research, turns out that when it can't connect, it falls into an endless sync cycle, devouring cpu.
Amazingly enough, the fix so far was to change the sync interval from 15 min to PUSH. Obviously pushing it will waste way less cpu than running processor at 50% all the time for nothing (even on a fast wifi).
I'm running latest cyan. Anybody else see that problem?
I'm interested in knowing which CPU profiling app you installed
SeePU+ ?
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Yes, thus I set Twitter, Beautiful Widgets Wheather, etc.,...to Push!
I'm interested in knowing which CPU profiling app you installed
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Quick system info pro.
I like it the most, but don't leave it running all the time. To kill it, just click on it in it's processes view.
I'm newbe to android. I have problem my x10a ruuning out of juice in 12 hours. I'm using Advance Task Killer to kill the apps when screen is off but not sure which I need to put in Ignore List and which one I can kill safely. Here list of apps currently running and Ignore list
Currently Running Apps
com.Sonyericcson.larningclient
com.qualcomm.wiper
com.sonyericsson.android.contentmanager.service.facerecognition
com.sonyericsson.android.timeescape.pluginmanager.framework.application
com.sonyericsson.android.accountprovider
com.google.android.partnersetup
com.sonyericsson.android.contentmanager.service.timescape
com.sonyericsson.android.fota
com.sonyericsson.android.bootinfo
com.google.android.googleapps
com.sonyericsson.android.mediascape.pluginmanager.framework.application
DocumentToGoFullVersionKey
Maps
Pure Calender widget
com.sonyericsson.android.timescape.pluginmanager.framework.application
com.android.providers.calendar
com.sony.uwlop.launcher
eBay
com.google.android.apps.uploader
com.android.providers.downloads
com.billyfrancisco.photogallerywidget
voice dialer
com.sonyericsson.android.pccompanioninstaller
com.sonyericsson.android.digitalclock
3G Watchdog
Superuser Permissions
Barnacle wifi Tether
com.levelup.beautifulwidgets
settings
Ignore List
setting profiles
Advance task Killer
Timescape
Battery Status Ultimate
Gmail
Smart Keyboard Pro
Moxier Mail
Email
MyBackup Pro
Thanks is advance
I've had started a collection over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707878
Have you tried not running Advanced Task Killer??? I'm running on f/w R2BA020 with no task killer and no startup auditor etc... and after a day of average use I down to about 40% after c.15 hours... I tried ATK and various others and in the end ditched them cos they were making the battery slightly worse, and making the phone slower cos it had to keep restarting app/ background processes that it uses..
Your power consumption will very much depend on what your running etc.. do you have any widgets that are updating regularly, or possibly faulty and preventing your phone from sleeping.. try using juice plotter for a while to see what your discharge profile looks like - you should see it going almost flat when you have a period of non use..
PS.. I've had bluetooth on (but not connected), wifi on, and 3G/ GPRS on all day today and after 11 hours I'm now on 52%.. have used the phone a reasonable amount.. maybe 20 texts, email syncing hourly, contacts and calendar on auto sync with google... no widgets on my home screen which sync, and no use of timescape.. used mediascape for about 30 mins, internet for about 20 mins, XDA app for about an hour.. played games for about 30 mins too..
I'm using Task Manager.
It pushed me up to 46hrs Standby, coming from 20hrs, when the battery is fully charged.
Thanks Guys
@McKebapp - It is good thread but need add info like one of the guys sugesting, which are ok to kill and Do NOT Kill
@ im_iceman - The problem is if you don't have ATK or other Task Manager, most application keep running once you clicked on them. I was looking Battery Use, this tell me its and Display and Standby but detail which program was using during standby
Hi - Yes some apps will sit in the background, but they should be sleeping and not actually doing anything, unless they've been badly written.. Android, based on Linux, manages the memory so that it's running on almost full most of the time and therefore is quicker to resume something which you were previously running, or is stored in memory awaiting use.. killing these things will mean that the processor has to work harder reloading them into memory all the time..
@Mckebapp - That may well be because it's killing a dodgy app that you've got running which isn't/ wasn't sleeping properly.. trouble is it may well be killing other stuff you need too..
Each to their own though..
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Thanks Guys
@McKebapp - It is good thread but need add info like one of the guys sugesting, which are ok to kill and Do NOT Kill
@ im_iceman - The problem is if you don't have ATK or other Task Manager, most application keep running once you clicked on them. I was looking Battery Use, this tell me its and Display and Standby but detail which program was using during standby
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The absolute "NOT TO KILL" ones are written.
All other ones depend on the individual usage.
To me: I kill each one, that is killable
What about continuing my collection and making it more precise?
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The absolute "NOT TO KILL" ones are written.
All other ones depend on the individual usage.
To me: I kill each one, that is killable
What about continuing my collection and making it more precise?
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Sure, I'm glad to help but I'm newbe just tell me what to do
As all our custom roms are in devlopment there is still battery draining issue but i found a some ways to maximise the battery
1 setcpu
use setcpu and set minimum frequency to 128 in stock rom it is set as 245 so change it also i think some of us dont know the profile function in setcpu i have set as when the screen turns off the cpu should run on minimum frequency ie 128
2 titanium backup
use this app to freeze some of the application that starts automatically on startup
you can also use diffrent freezing apps that are available in the market i use this app
3 cyanogenmod settings
in the performance setting disable all the options ie use of jit compiler , surface dithering etc and also set VM heap size to 24 or 16 belive me or not this is not affecting the performance to much extent still i am getting quadrant score greater than 1000
4 use of 3g
with diffrent experiments i have learnt that wifi consumes more battery than 3g i
am also not sure this is true or not
this are some of the setting you can use to increase your battery you can also
use automatic task killer, decrease brightness,turnoff background sync,disabling live wallpaper, use of 2g connections etc etc.
with this setting i am able to save my battery for more than a day
also guys tell me what you do to save your battery
if you like my post pls thank
Its a shame that the battery capacity is too low in these phones. Anyways this is what I do to extend the battery:
1. Use auto-brightness (in froyobread ROM)
2. Use automatic data disabling applications
3. Only 1 application gets internet connection for auto-sync when phone is idle (so the other ones can use that gap to sync too)
That's all.... you may want to set your account auto-sync off... but that's no good if you rely in gmail, google calendar, etc...
I have read somewhere that task killers "kill" the battery!
Don't use them! You'd better use apps like Fast reboot!
And about titanium backup..
Freeze (or delete) the Email.apk not Gmail.apk.
Also the Maps.apk if you don't need it!
anant123 said:
I have read somewhere that task killers "kill" the battery!
Don't use them! You'd better use apps like Fast reboot!
And about titanium backup..
Freeze (or delete) the Email.apk not Gmail.apk.
Also the Maps.apk if you don't need it!
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Advanced Task Killer does that on my x8.
I use some tips from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726381
and use powermax from the market.
in my experience,in the night my battery 40% left i let my data traffic turned off and 2g only network, i let the music played with phone speaker 50% volume.
im falling a sleep, and in the morning i still hear the music and the battery 8% left.
i use froyobread
Gmail & K9mail both use wakelocks. I don't trust them even in manual check mode. Something much more light weight seems appropriate.
It's important to get this right since the main point of a Nook NST for me is saving battery and being able to pick it up and use it straightaway. If an app starts waking up and draining battery even a little then it's no longer going to last for a month.
Using a browser such as Opera can work but it's a little clunky and so is freezing and unfreezing apps even with a widget. Any recommendations for an email app?
Not sure about email apps so this doesn't answer the question you're actually asking, but may have a functionally similar outcome. Using a CPU scaling app with profiles and setting it so the range of frequencies the CPU can use when the screen is off has both the maximum and minimum values at the lowest possible helps a lot for me.
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Not sure about email apps so this doesn't answer the question you're actually asking, but may have a functionally similar outcome. Using a CPU scaling app with profiles and setting it so the range of frequencies the CPU can use when the screen is off has both the maximum and minimum values at the lowest possible helps a lot for me.
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Thanks buddy but I find I get a month as it is just making sure that the phone.apk and related stiff that starts after rooting is removed. I don't think I need CPU scaling because that's already working for me. Main thing is to watch those wakelocks. There are tons of apps that cause them including skype, paypal, facebook, whatsapp. Only fix is to freeze them, avoid or get the progammers to do it properly and program thier app in 2 parts