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HI, I've bought a JASJAR few weeks ago and thanks to you I've done many things. Unfortunately, due to my poor experience I guess I'm wasting lot of time in trying understanding things. The most important, is to understand exactly what is ExtRom and why everybody is doing theri own personalized.
THANKS TO ALL!!!
My laymans explanation, others may give a more techy one:
When you hard-reset the operating system and applications that come as standard are stored on a rom and are set back to factory settings. Some network phone provideers (O2, Vodafone, Orange etc) like to customise the phone with extra applications, tweaks and branded screen themes. These are usually loaded straight after the reset.
The main reason you are seeing so many posts about the ext-rom is that some people don't like these added extras (mainly as they seem to make the XDA slower).
The second reason is that the ext-rom can be used to store your own customisations so in the event that you have to hard-reset you can get your XDA back to it's current setup quicker.
It is a bit techy to do as the ext-rom is write protected and hidden.
So basically some are making it visible, write enabling it and adding cab files which are to auto run on a hard-reset.
Lastly, it may be usable as extra storage so watch this space for the best tweaks...
Steve
THANKS
Thanks Stevie. Now I know and I'm ready to learn.
Thanks again
Stefano
Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.
Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!
I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good
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How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful
Hi all,
Yeeeah, so the Leo was finally announced at the major/best 3G network in Denmark, the worldwide operator "3". And thats awesome, so of course I hit my wallet and cashed out and got the phone yesterday. Brilliant.
Got the phone in my hand, my god, its beautiful and all, its my first PDA phone so I'm very noobish and overwhelmed by everything, but I'm lovin' it so far! Okay, well I started looking around on the big www and came across this fantastic site and now I'm thinking, I wanna get involved with this shizzle and start cooking - or at least start looking at the menu!!
But I realize that I don't know anything about how to do all this, so started looking around in the Leo Wiki, Tips and Tricks sticky and so on but I feel that its all very comprehensive and I simply don't know where to start, and I don't think the (otherwise awesome) guides are as extensive as could, at least not for my understanding. I haven't come across a newb forum/thread where all the very, very basics are introduced/discussed, so I'm thinking: any noobs out there? or post-noobs? who wanna share some of their mighty wisdom and experience with me? (yeah, I want some Leo-friends)
Okay, so I found a few things I wanna try:
From Leo hints and tricks sticky:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
WARNING: some danish might appear when clicking here (this is the danish HTC ROM link, look at bottom of page)
I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
Kind Regards
Welcome and Hello
I`ll take 5 minutes to write a reply seeing as no one else can be bothered.....
Welcome to the forum, you`ll find all you need here, My advise would be to READ READ READ , and if you have any questions SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH, you`ll get flamed if you post something thats been posted before, even though if you do post, it moves from the first 2 pages so fast hence no answers......
16gb sd card will work fine,
Read carefully the goldcard method for updating ROMS and only if you feel confident enough would i recomend it...I`ve flashed 1.61 no issues....
Richie
same as i am......i am currently waiting for my beast and been reading and reading and reading this forum all this while........but the problem is.....i am a really3 noobie person on IT....some topic that were discuss here i can understand but some of have no idea at alll...hehehheh hopefully can get some knowledge from u guys.......[please forgive my english...heheheh]
Hi WildL,
I understand the noob feelings. Although this site has a wealth of information, it's not the noob friendliest place.
.cab files are like .exe files for your pc. You don't unpack it anywhere, simply copy/download to your device and run (click on it through file manager) it from where ever you saved it. It will unpack itself and install. Your only option generally is to install directly onto your device or onto your SD card.
Not sure on the location thing as I haven't experienced it.
For your SD card, there is nothing on there you have to worry about. The ROM is stored on the device and the card is simply additional storage. Feel free to shove a new one in there.
As for changing ROMs. As a noob, stick to stock updates for now. You're on the newest device with all the newest features so custom roms won't offer much except little tweaks (but the phone is fast enough already) and additional apps you can just install yourself. Some MAY be more stable but current it's not worth the risk of bricking your device. Read read read and when you feel comfortable and think your ready, then start looking into cooked roms.
Good luck!
WildL said:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.[/I]
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
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I'd recommend you use this instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
It means you have the X which you can configure to close apps or minimize them (you can open settings for it by tapping it on the sense ui and going to the wrench). You can also list open apps from the sense ui by clicking it and simply switch to or close anything in the list. Have a play - it's the best all-round solution.
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Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
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At least your location works! lol
It uses your provider's network to get your location - not GPS. It's always going to be within a mile or 2. Since it's only meant for general info, it doesn't really matter much. I doubt the weather 2 miles down the road is much different than it is where you are
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3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
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The SD card is purely for storage. You can take it out and the phone will still function properly. This obviously changes if you install software on the card. Unfortunately, the HD2 has a pitiful amount of internal storage memory, so I'd actually recommend using the card to install stuff on. With this in mind, I got myself a 16GB SD card and use that, treating it as if I'll never remove it. I'd obviously recommend this, cos it's what I do
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Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
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If your phone is pretty new and you've not done much setting up, it's probably the best time to make sure you've got the most up-to-date ROM. If you got the phone from a provider then you can officially only upgrade using ROMs that they supply. If you got it completely SIM free, then you can use the HTC ones that are out there. The current new one (1.61) is actually an official HTC one, so it will be as risk free as flashing a ROM can ever be. It's just not officially released yet. (I believe HTC "leak" their ROMs so that this community can beta test for them, before they release to the general public, but that's just my belief )
Since the phone is still so new though, I don't really think that it makes much difference. The ROM upgrades seem to be doing so little at the minute that you may well not notice any benefits.
Either way, if it's official, you've at least got some comeback if it bricks your new phone!
Basically, this is just a preference. Do what you think feels right. Just bear in mind that a ROM flash means a hard reset, which means setting EVERYTHING up again, from scratch.
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I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
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Well you're in the best place to ask your zillion other questions. This is the right place to ask this kind of question, and I'm sure that there'll be plenty of people to follow me in welcoming you here. I've been a member of this community for just over 18 months now, and it's been great. There's a lot of good people on here who are more than happy to show off their knowledge er... I mean be helpful! lol
Have fun with your new toy
Well first off it sucks that I only have 23 mb left after owning the phone for about 30 hours T_T but how come it says theres only 181mb left? is it just because windows can't see some of the files (like the windows folder)? because Im supposed to have 512mb right? :/
The rest is used by the system (ROM). You can only access those 181MB.
Yes, it really sucks that there's so little storage left, especially with the Album, Youtube and browser cache growing so fast that they eat the whole storage withing just a few days. The Marketplace, that only installs to the internal memory, enforces the problem even more. This is a HUGE problem for non-powerusers, who get their applications from there and don't know how to delete the caches.
- delete the Opera executables (\Windows\Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe)
- delete the Youtube cache (located in \Windows\Youtube\),
- search the forum about how to relocate the Album cache
- install all your programs to the storage card, when possible.
I have a feeling that this is "design" faulty. HTC should not provide 512MB ROM. The ROM "image" is taken 300MB already.
If HD2 taken so much of "Total Storage", why in the first place HTC decided 512MB ROM? Might as well give it 8GB right away.
There's something not right with HD2 initial first batch. Camera, SMS, storage, ghost-screen, hyper-sensitive touch, etc. Too many problems....
They should have at least provided enough so that non-powerusers would not run into problems.
And Microsoft should finally make the Marketplace install programs to the storage card.
It doesn't make sense to sell a phone that has an application store but not enough memory to buy applications from it.
Other than that, I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. It's a pity that there have been so many issues, but on the other hand, I can't think of any smartphone that was flawless from the day it was released. It shouldn't be like that, but unfortunately it is, it's a sad truth and HTC is no exception.
But at least we didn't have to wait any longer for the phone... I personally prefer some small issues to having to wait forever...
with so many models HTC has established, this is the "wierdest" model they have ever made..."design" failure issue...I would certainly advice potential buyers to wait for next batch (any idea when) to come out or wait for their super-android model(s) (Nexus One...?)
The next batch won't have more memory and the rest of the issues is software, so waiting doesn't make much sense.
pray hard so that the next batch will have less "image" ROM. 300MB is too high for 512MB ROM. So the next batch "will" be shipped with fresh new stock ROM having much more stable system.
As of now, we have to play around with current situation.
There's nothing wrong with the design, per se. There's just a lot of bloatware and the pagepool setting (normally high for stock ROM) that take up the majority of the memory.
Talk about PagePool, what's the default PP for HD2? 8PP?
lude219 said:
There's nothing wrong with the design, per se. There's just a lot of bloatware and the pagepool setting (normally high for stock ROM) that take up the majority of the memory.
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I think ClearTemp should help you delete some ofthe cache and temp files...
Thanks everyone, annoying though that its not just me, that its the problem with all the HD2
When a hardspl comes out Im sure if I flash my device with a cooked rom, it will be alot better as they wont have so much crap on... am I right?
...Till then, use sk tools 4. something something .15 (better HD2 compatability) AutoClean clears youtube and album cache. If you don.t use copilot delete the folder located in program files, it saves aprox 18mb of storage.
Why is there a thread on this? all the info here can be found in the wiki.
1: Internal memory of the phone is used for the rom
2: why does it matter when the price of memory is insanely cheap
3: there is a thread like this in EVERY device forum
on top of this why are you all moaning about the internal memory of the HD2? personally, i would never install ANYTHING to internal memory as this is the "dedicated space" for your cooked rom when they become available and they will get bloated and all of it will be needed!
just because you get a cooked rom it doesnt mean that "there will be less crap on it" it just means that the rom chef has put the crap they want into it.
you can get a 1-32Gb storage card from ebay for about £6.99, buy one and put it in, install everything (other than system installs eg manila files & stuff that needs to be in the windows dir) to the SD card!
this is the most advanced handset on the market yet people are moaning about it for every/any reason under the sun!!
MG
on top of this why are you all moaning about the internal memory of the HD2? personally, i would never install ANYTHING to internal memory as this is the "dedicated space" for your cooked rom when they become available and they will get bloated and all of it will be needed!
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The "average consumer" soes not know about cooked ROMs and has no idea how to buz applications from outside the Marketplace, which always installs to the internal memory.
This means the low internal memory is a HUGE problem. Not for us, but for most HD2 users, who are not powerusers.
You're right, it is the most advanced handset on the market and all the moaning is annoying, but this really IS a huge issue (and actually it is the ONLY real issue). They are advertising this device to consumers but fail to make it useable for the average consumer, who has no idea about deleting caches, flashing ROMs and installing to the storage card.
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The "average consumer" soes not know about cooked ROMs and has no idea how to buz applications from outside the Marketplace, which always installs to the internal memory.
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Err, no when you install an app you get the option to install to internal or SD card!
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This means the low internal memory is a HUGE problem. Not for us, but for most HD2 users, who are not powerusers.
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Adding an SD card is not a power user addition to the device! HTC even provide one of roughly 2Gb size in the HD2 box...put it in the device. this is not poweruser, any chimp can do that.
seed_al said:
You're right, it is the most advanced handset on the market and all the moaning is annoying, but this really IS a huge issue (and actually it is the ONLY real issue).
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No, go on ebay and buy an SD card!
seed_al said:
They are advertising this device to consumers
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Incorrect again, this is a quote from the HTC website:
Storage
ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 448 MB
Expansion slot: microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible
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It clearly states memory available. and the words "EXPANSION SLOT" are a give away as to what that is used for.
seed_al said:
but fail to make it useable for the average consumer, who has no idea about deleting caches, flashing ROMs and installing to the storage card.
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ok, firstly, take a look at your HD2, if you dont know anything about these devices or at least are not prepared to read, why do you have it?
Second, i have been using these devices for 6-7 years, NEVER deleted cache in my life!!
Thirdly, if a user installs an app, gets the options: "Install to Device" or "Install to Storage Card" and then does not know what this is, then they probably also cannot tie their shoe laces.
A lot of people (stupid ones unfortunately) have got HD2's in the last few weeks and the XDA-Dev forum has been flooded with retarded posts like this asking stupid questions which are answered in the wiki or elsewhere in the forum.
XDA-Dev is THE HOME FOR POWERUSERS of HTC devices SO naturally I would assume that people are here because they know, or are looking to learn, and below i have quoted the forum rules:
12aon said:
A few things you should keep in mind before posting to XDA-Developers forums:
Check if your question has been asked beforeSome questions just keep popping up over and over. Please use the 'search function' in the menu above each and every page in the forum. Try entering a few keywords to see if your question has been asked before. If it has, please read the topics and see if you can figure it our from there. You can also search inside a topic if it has too many comments by using the search function (CTRL+F) in your browser. If you don't find the answer, please post a comment to the relevant thread instead of starting a new one.Use the Leo Wiki
The Leo Wiki Thread will point you to some of the more common pages in the wiki site, ALWAYS take a look there before posting anything since ALL members are encouraged to use and update the wiki as necessary. The information SHOULD be up to date. If information you think is important is not in the wiki, add it RTFW, or Read the WikiChances are your question is already answered on the wiki: Make sure you browse through the FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) before you start a new topic. If it's an obvious or common question, chances are someone has already put the answer there.ETFW, or Edit the WikiInformation stored in the wiki is dynamic: The wiki makes it easy for anyone to contribute or edit pages, and link them together, it is the best way to keep all information current and accurate. If you ask something in the forum which you didn't find on the wiki previously, please take 5 minutes of your time to EDIT the wiki and add the information there when you get an answer. This is the only way to avoid tons of new threads asking the very same questions over and over and over again.
Don't be afraid of editing the wiki if you don't understand the wiki syntax: Formating may seem a bit complicated at the beginning, but you don't have to care too much if you just want to add content, add it as if you were writing a text document and sure someone more experienced with wiki syntax will edit it after and correct the bad formatting mistakes.First time here?If it's your first time here, we encourage you to read general XDA-Developers guidelines too, which is an extended version of what has already been said here.
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this is from Flar
New forum rules, please read!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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The problem is these "New" people dont do any of the following:
1: Read the Manual of the device
2: Read the forum rules and abide by them
3: Use the search button
4: Use google
This forum is getting ruined! this was once the home for power users, it is now the home for every dribbling idiot that wanted a phone better then the iphone but they cannot be bothered to do simple things like reading.
Err, no when you install an app you get the option to install to internal or SD card!
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No, Marketplace only installs to internal memory.
Which makes all the rest of your post obsolete. Sorry but you missed the point completely.
And I'm not talking about forum members, I'm talking about average consumers who buy the HD2 but never had a WM device before. They have no clue how to get applications from outside the marketplace. Thus, they buy everything from there, install it to internal memory and wonder why it's full after installing only a few things and watching a few youtube videos. They don't know how to install something to the SD card and they don't know how to delete youtube and other caches to free internal memory. Those are the people who then return their HD2 and buy an iPhone, because they think they can't install more than a feww applications - and this is a HUGE problem. If HTC wants to sell a consumer device, they need to make it useable for average consumers, who have no clue about gettimg applications from outside the market and freeing internal memory.
It's not a problem for me and not a problem for most of the users here, but we are only a minority among the people who buy the HD2.
Hi
Not trying to hijack the thread but.....
I have virtually no ROM mem left, and was trying to install some more games and apps, i was given coice of device or card so selected card, however the apps / games would not install saying not enough mem on device, for some reason even tho i was selecting mem card, it would try to default to the device mem.... any words of wisdom or ideas, is there there any way i can force the install on to a memory card??
Thanks in advance
Well I dont have a problem, and I have **** loads install on my phone, maybe its because im not a chip as said above, fitting an sd card is simple
Yes you're not a chip. Most users of the forum aren't. But there are users you don't have a clue and if HTC wants to sell the device to regular consumers, who in general don't have a clue, they need to make it idiot-proof. That's why the iPhone sells so well: It's a crappy device but it's idiot proof.
The HD2 is already very easy to use but the storage thing is a huge problem for people who don't have a clue - and that's the majority.
seed_al said:
It's a crappy device but it's idiot proof.
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To call the iPhone a "crappy device" is just ridiculous. It's one of the most popular pieces of publicly available technology.
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The HD2 is already very easy to use but the storage thing is a huge problem for people who don't have a clue - and that's the majority.
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The majority of people who get this phone get it because they know the brand and know windows mobile. YES, there are lots of people that don't fit into those categories (as you can see by the influx of new people on this forum), but they are simply a louder voice because the people who are in the majority don't need to keep asking simple questions.
Anyone who doesn't think that an expansion slot is a way to extend the overall capable size of their phone should buy a simpler phone, with less capabilities, OR spend the time and effort to learn how to use it correctly, without spitting their dummy every time it does something that they do not understand (or doesn't do something that their iPhone or Nokia did previously).
This forum is to help people, and to share knowledge, not for wingeing and moaning.
Hello guys ,
I bought new HTC HD2 today. I am using symbian all my life and switched to Windows mobile now . I am slowly trying to adopt to it.
I dont understand terms like "Rom" , " Custom Roms" , "Rom update" , .I see them every where ...
Can a hard core WM user help me understand what these terms mean .
Thanks
Davie
First of all a ROM is what the phone runs ie, WM (windows mobile 6.5, 6.5.x)
custom ROM is something a chef on here or other various sites, has taken the ROM and made it better the way they like it and made it available for everyone else to use,
ROM updates are usually put out by the networks for stock ROM's i.e. what came on the phone first, have a read in the ROM section thread to get more knowledge.
and this is a very helpful thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
oh and please just use a normal font it will still be answered lol
Like you I came from a symbian device to an HD2 (about 6 months ago) and the only way to get to grips with it is just by reading through the forums endlessly, the best place to start is the wiki and the sticky threads in the various forums. It might be hard to find what your looking for sometimes but trust me anything you'll ever need to know is on here somewhere.
I think you'll be glad you made the switch.........
Happy reading
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First of all a ROM is what the phone runs ie, WM (windows mobile 6.5, 6.5.x)
custom ROM is something a chef on here or other various sites, has taken the ROM and made it better the way they like it and made it available for everyone else to use,
ROM updates are usually put out by the networks for stock ROM's i.e. what came on the phone first, have a read in the ROM section thread to get more knowledge.
and this is a very helpful thread
oh and please just use a normal font it will still be answered lol
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Thank u for the quicker response !!! I think its prety much like installing another OS everytime I switch to a new Rom . Pls correct if I am wrong.
Also I believe Stock Rom is what I get with the phone itself when I buy and is it possible for me to switch back to the stock rom from a custom rom. And will i be able to install a stock rom update on the custom rom .
thank u
you can still enjoy a lot your device without paying too much attention to these terms. just play around with it and install apps that you like. there are lots of apps here and in other websites. some of them for free. one of my these websites is www.freewarepocketpc.net. just make sure that the apps you install have the same resolution as your device, i.e. wvga. and as suggested, browse through the forums and you'll learn a lot.
welcome to the wm world!
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Like you I came from a symbian device to an HD2 (about 6 months ago) and the only way to get to grips with it is just by reading through the forums endlessly, the best place to start is the wiki and the sticky threads in the various forums. It might be hard to find what your looking for sometimes but trust me anything you'll ever need to know is on here somewhere.
I think you'll be glad you made the switch.........
Happy reading
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Thanks for ur advise. I will do that .. Its kinda completly looks alien to me but still impressive than the boring symbian ****.
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Thank u for the quicker response !!! I think its prety much like installing another OS everytime I switch to a new Rom . Pls correct if I am wrong.
Also I believe Stock Rom is what I get with the phone itself when I buy and is it possible for me to switch back to the stock rom from a custom rom. And will i be able to install a stock rom update on the custom rom .
thank u
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You basically have 2 flavours, 6.5 which more than likely came as standard (Stock) where the start button is on the top left, and 6.5.x where the start button is on the bottom left where most of the custom ROM's are 6.5.x (not all though). yes you can put a stock ROM back on after custom ROM but you wont lol its that simple you will prob just flash (install a new ROM) to something else like the rest of us, the stock ROM updates are not needed on custom ROM's as there all upto date, and the chefs's(the people who create them) are often updating them.
as joshzzz2001 said you can use that website for all your free apps its a very good site and there is also a mobile app, so you can browse on your cell,
All i will say though is if you do Flash make sure you have read through and understand it all, once you have read it and wanna ask a question to double check people are good enough to help but its the people that dont read and fully understand that will screw up, once you have read its a piece of cake.
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
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Forgot to mention this, Cookies Home Tab.
Absolutely fantastic app for customising your home screen, a must have for any HD2 if you ask me, well worth looking into!
Download here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483
Good youtube vid of it in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9LoBv8D76Y&feature=related
conantroutman said:
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
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+1 for myphone only good thing to come from MS
conantroutman said:
I know what you mean, it all seems hellishly complicated if your not used to it. Like the guy above said just start installing things and getting to grips with the basics, if theres one thing I would advise its that you reguarly backup your settings/data.
Get microsoft myphone from the marketplace, there are other more in depth backup apps out there but myphone will do the basics. Its quite likely that once you get hooked on tweaking your phone (and you will) that you might have to hard reset (factory reset). I've lost count of how many times I've had to do this. Mainly due to my own lack of knowledge
Its worth it though.... lol
Edit;
Forgot to mention this, Cookies Home Tab.
Absolutely fantastic app for customising your home screen, a must have for any HD2 if you ask me, well worth looking into!
Download here
Good youtube vid of it in action
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This app is really cool . .. I love it ... Thanks for the info...
Can u tell me where I can get more apps like that ....thanks
My phone is carrier (T-Mobile) locked. Will I still be able to install custom roms ..
Thanks
like what lol? cookies home tab will let you change near enough the whole of the main screen, in the themes and apps section you can get different clocks, wallpapers, etc, you just have to have a look around this leo section mate, may take you a few days to figure it all out but its a great forum and loads of stuff on here, to do anything, if you look through this thread you can see what can be done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582619
do you have the 1024MB ROM?? use this thread = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
if you have 512MB use this thread = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
if you not sure, slide the slider all the way to the end and scroll down to the bottom and click on about phone then hardware information, and look at flash size that is the ROM size then start reading either thread
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like what lol? cookies home tab will let you change near enough the whole of the main screen, in the themes and apps section you can get different clocks, wallpapers, etc, you just have to have a look around this leo section mate, may take you a few days to figure it all out but its a great forum and loads of stuff on here, to do anything, if you look through this thread you can see what can be done
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thank u .. will check out ... This forum is great .. can get help in minutes ...
Thank u again ...
I have been trying to figure out what is HSPL , SPL ,SSPL and OSPL
What is the differnce
Could u help me with that ...
Thanks
this is where you will get me lol, right hspl is hard sspl is soft, i think and dont quote me but hspl is only needed once its needed for custom roms, you need hspl or sspl to be able to install a custom tom, what you have to do though is work out which model you have i edited my post look up, once you no thar there is 2 links you will need 1 of them and then it will near enough talk you straight through.
ok just realised the 2 links above i posted if you look at post number 2 in either of them it explains hspl and sspl
u r help ful my friend ...Thank u ..
if your on t mobile in the uk i'd reccomend the rom update thats available on the htc site (if your gonna stick with the stock rom) Its a lot less buggy. If your in the US then ignore this!
conantroutman said:
if your on t mobile in the uk i'd reccomend the rom update thats available on the htc site (if your gonna stick with the stock rom) Its a lot less buggy. If your in the US then ignore this!
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All the us version T-mobile devices have 1024MB roms.
SPL (secondry program loader aka the boot loader) is basically the bios of the phone. The SSPL is the soft secondry program loader and the OSPL is the original secondry program loader (ie the stock spl). HSPL is the hard (or hacked) secondry program loader and this is required to install custom roms. There are 2 versions of this (hspl and hspl2) the second is applicable to all devices including tmous devices and is recommended. if you want to use hspl, use the same hspl version as your ospl. The ospl/hspl can be upgraded but i havent done this. There is also another application that may interest to you and that is customruu. This allows you to update the radio firmware for your device to a newer version. This has advantages such as better effiency for the GSM, wifi and bluetooth chips thus extending the battery life.
Most of the cooked roms out there are based on the tmous (T-mobile US) 2.10 and above roms. These are WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 based and feature better finger support. They also feature seveal fixes including an updated camera driver to fix the camera flash over exposure problem.
I, personally, prefer to stay with the stock roms and tweak them as i don't take many night photos and speed for me is the main thing. You can do this by runnning through the 2 tweaks sticky threads and with the help of phm registry editor. On the speed front there are (for me atleast) a couplel programs that are must haves. These are, netrippers LCS and chainfires 3D gfx driver. Combined with the performance tweaks these eliminate the lag of the stock UI and go as far as making it very fluid and responsive.
I hope this helps
M3PH
there are three hspl versions, not two.
the tmous (t mobile usa hd2, the one with 1024 rom) has its own variant of hspl2, usually referred to as hspl1024.
you said you were on t mobile but not which tmo. is very important to distinguish between tmous and all the others. if it IS a tmous then you need to be really sure about the pitfalls before you flash.if you have a normal hd2 (512 flash size in settings about phone hardware info) then things couldn't be simpler. hspl 2 then any rom you like.
is handy to have your country flag and carrier logo on in your profile, as that can usually tell us which phone you likely have.