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htc have said they are developing the Sense UI for eclair, but in my opinion, there is nothing seriuosly wrong with the standard Android UI as it is,
why dont they release the Sense UI afterwards as as optional upgrade?
i think they are wasting their time, i buy HTC phones for the good hardware design and components, not for the UI, even on WM i used to turn off their enhancements to the WM UI.
does anyone else feel they are wasting their time?
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totally not on your side. sense ui is great, i like it much better than stock android. also not on your side concerning htc's improvments in general, sorry...
Love the Sense UI.
Gives it a polished feel. Onlt concern I have is over long term support for it as the device becomes last year's model. But by then, standard Android should be much more polished as well...
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Love the sense UI. Will not go back to Android UI.
Had a G1 running "vanilla" Android prior to my Hero, and I wouldn't want to go back to the standard interface. Sense UI all the way for me!
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Dave
I dont see a lot of people agreeing with you. SenseUI is fantastic. Can't wait to see what they do with Android 2.0
Sense is perhaps redundant in some ways, but also very much valuable in many places. The 7 home screens are way more spacious than the default 3. The unified contacts view allows me to get all I need to know about a contact from one place. The skinned apps are more finger-friendly and provide a more consistent user experience.
Overall, I think Sense adds great value to the Android platform, and sets the Hero apart from other Android phones. That's not to say vanilla Android is bad, but it's what it is: vanilla.
I think of Android as more of a bare minimum enabler as opposed to a full mobile OS. Yes indeed, it can be run as a full mobile OS, but the experience is minimal. However, it lays the framework for vendors to differentiate their products from the competition, while maintaining application cross-compatibility.
another problem i see in future is the android os fracturing in the same way linux has, ironically.
yes there is a vanilla feel to the standard android theme, but it runs fast and stable, unlike the sense ui which has already crashed at least once (yes, latest updates have been applied), this sort of thing was common with the WM skins that HTC developed.
for me, the main factor is stability not looks, as im not going to be spending my day looking at the screen. if its not stable enough to not go a day without crashing, then theres problems. moving to htc android from htc wm, i was hoping there would be more stability but not yet.
I kinda like good old vanilla, but sense does look really nice. Things I really like about sense is: contacts, browser, camera, album and calendar. These features are hard to let go of. The special widgets are not a real big deal.
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another problem i see in future is the android os fracturing in the same way linux has, ironically.
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This is always going to be an issue given that Android uses a non-copyleft open source licence. It is simultaneously both a good and bad thing!
yes there is a vanilla feel to the standard android theme, but it runs fast and stable, unlike the sense ui which has already crashed at least once (yes, latest updates have been applied), this sort of thing was common with the WM skins that HTC developed.
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Not discounting your experience at all, but I came from a G1 running vanilla Android, and I've found that Hero/Sense is at least as stable as that.
for me, the main factor is stability not looks, as im not going to be spending my day looking at the screen. if its not stable enough to not go a day without crashing, then theres problems. moving to htc android from htc wm, i was hoping there would be more stability but not yet.
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If you have problems with your Hero crashing daily, you definitely have problems. I seldom feel the need to reboot my Hero. Then again, whilst I use a Modaco ROM, I don't use Apps2SD, Swapper, or regularly kill tasks, and many of the problems I see on this site are likely related to those.
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Dave
Sense UI only means every nice thing Google does for Android has to go through HTC, which takes time. Also after 2.0 Android we will not get anything new to Hero from HTC, I can guarantee that. You will have to buy "Hero II".
Sense is a way for HTC to stamp their own branding on the phone. Its a differentiator amongst the coming wave of Android devices.
People have done this for years with WiMo and Symbian.
Its called marketing
I think HTC have done an amazing job with their GUI, as said above, it adds polish to an excellent OS.
Nothing worse IMHO than having a new handset that may look different hardware wise but just like everything else when you look at the screen. Which you do whenever you use it
i have never understood why people are so concerned about the looks more than the functionality/stability. but then i've never understood much about human behaviour
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i have never understood why people are so concerned about the looks more than the functionality/stability. but then i've never understood much about human behaviour
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Well, in my opinion, it's more functional and at least as stable. So, I don't see your problem!
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Dave
warsng said:
htc have said they are developing the Sense UI for eclair, but in my opinion, there is nothing seriuosly wrong with the standard Android UI as it is,
why dont they release the Sense UI afterwards as as optional upgrade?
i think they are wasting their time, i buy HTC phones for the good hardware design and components, not for the UI, even on WM i used to turn off their enhancements to the WM UI.
does anyone else feel they are wasting their time?
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definetly: NO. Sense UI is the best thing which happened to Android.
Pure Android just doesn't look professional UI wise. HTC was the first company who provided a great skin to android AND made it more functional also (HTC SENSE Contacts app is nearly perfect).
Yes pure Android might be faster, and HTc Touch FLO on Windows Mobile was SLOW. BUT HTC Sense on Android is really fast enough for me. especially after the update. And i can't live without all the great Sense Apps and widgets.
Sorry for my self promotion, but i wrote exactly about this issue on my blog. I'm a longterm Windows Mobile user switching to android, thanks to HTC and HTC Sense. I think HTC Sense brought Android to the next level Usability and UI wise:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2009/09/a-longterm-windows-mobile-user-switching-to-android-part-4-htc-sense-review/
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Sense UI only means every nice thing Google does for Android has to go through HTC, which takes time. Also after 2.0 Android we will not get anything new to Hero from HTC, I can guarantee that. You will have to buy "Hero II".
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that maybe true. in this case you can always root your phone and get the further updates via xda devs...
still "not getting updates" for 3 years is not enough to let HTC Sense go. It provides just so much better usability. The folks at google can't provide such an experience up to now, and they never will because the whole concept of Android is: take the OS framework, and customize it to your liking, thats when companies like HTC come into play.
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i have never understood why people are so concerned about the looks more than the functionality/stability. but then i've never understood much about human behaviour
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it's not about looks, it's about USABILITY and FUNCTIONALITY, not only one of them. And overall HTC Sense has both.
HTC adds even more to the mix like multitouch and the whole facebook, twitter, flickr integration. Yeah Android 2.0 provides this too now, but HTC will keep adding stuff which is missing in vanilla android.
i accept the point that this is about marketing, but its not like i would forget that this is a HTC phone if the interface did not remind me 24 hrs a day.
i also resent the fact that the default is to have the Sense UI on. it would be ok if there was a more of a choice. maybe i havent yet learnt how to turn it off properly, im a bit of a android noob , i confess
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i also resent the fact that the default is to have the Sense UI on. it would be ok if there was a more of a choice. maybe i havent yet learnt how to turn it off properly, im a bit of a android noob , i confess
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Each to their own of course, but to resent Sense being the default UI is probably a bit harsh when Sense is one of the key features that Hero is marketed with!
If you really want to use the default home screen, the easiest method would be to download "Home Switcher" from the Market (yes, I know it can be done manually, but this is easier!).
Regards,
Dave
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i accept the point that this is about marketing, but its not like i would forget that this is a HTC phone if the interface did not remind me 24 hrs a day.
i also resent the fact that the default is to have the Sense UI on. it would be ok if there was a more of a choice. maybe i havent yet learnt how to turn it off properly, im a bit of a android noob , i confess
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You can switch to default Android home quite easily. Go to settings, mnage apps, findd touchFLO, reset it's default category. And press home button - you will be able to choose betwen 2 homes and set a default one again.
Hopefuly you will see how much worse the original home is - even sliding through homescreeens feels unpolished and not smooth. I use 1.6 on the Magic too and trust me, HTC is a savior for Android. Would not use Android at all without SenseUI.
Also, there is a myth that SenseUI stuff sit on top on original Android, like TouchFLO sits on top of WinMo. But that is not true. Since Android is open source, HTC just modify and manipulate it. HTC home is separate though, but it is based on Androids home and runs in the same level.
Confirms what many (including myself) already knew - bravo is a different phone from nexus one altogther running sense ui.
http://mobilenews.omio.com/mobile-p...-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-due-for-q1-release/
Very nice.
Still prefer the nexus one though. Optical trackpad is definitely better ((especially since the n1 trackball light is currently unsotimizable thus useless)). But the button layout I dont like. Sense UI slows down updates too much.
Knowing I can always have it as an option if rooted it comes down to hardware.
Question.... if the Bravo does HD recording is that something that can be ported ot N1. Or is the actual hardware limited ?
Sense? We don't need bloated skins. We need openness! And a KEYBOARD! And that nipplepointer looks like it'll be a pain to use.
Other than the optical track pad I like everything about the Nexus more. When the sense Tom comes out I'll flash it until Froyo is released.
some HTC sense loving would be nice on the N1... missing a few of the little things here and there.
Sorry this is a Nexus One§ Thread close.
One of our members, udK, posted this video of him running HTC's Sense UI on Froyo. He is running the test build, and so far it looks great!
IT IS OUT! For desire only right now, but the devs are about to start porting, currently confirmed 2 Devs are porting.
UPDATE: Desire ROM 2.2 is fully working I assume, as the devs working on it say it might be out by tonight. Hopefully the Nexus will get a full port by tomorrow... No promises from either parties though.
Another update: Not coming until tomorrow evening.
Things HTC added:
720p Recording
Torch
Application Sharing App
Plurk
Hotspot
Apps2SD
More Widgets
Seems smoother than before. It gets 39MFLOPS
and More
Any chance for a leak so Modaco or King can get it running on our Nexus'?
Here are the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEF-U_eBrEQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684518&page=22
http://twitter.com/udk_dev
link please?
was hoping HTC would update the overall look of it to sexify it a bit more like they did between 1.5 and 2.1 Sense UIs
I think they did a tiny bit, The title bars seem flat now, compared to 2.1's rounded look. Looks sleeker.
Still wouldn't mind it, it gets 39MFLOPS, meaning JIT is there!
Just what I have been wanting!
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Just what I have been wanting!
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Me too, actually.
I reeeeaaaaally want Sense UI on my N1 with Froyo.
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One of our members, udK, posted this video of him running HTC's Sense UI on Froyo. He is running the test build, and so far it looks great!
Things HTC added:
720p Recording
Torch
Plurk
Hotspot
More Widgets
Seems smoother than before. It gets 39MFLOPS
and More
Any chance for a leak so Modaco or King can get it running on our Nexus'?
Sorry, here are the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEF-U_eBrEQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684518&page=22
http://twitter.com/udk_dev
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yea just modaco, not King. its basically the same thing anyways
anywho, i love sense ui and i would love to have this on my nexus one. it just seems like these nexus one roms dont have enough space memory for apps so id hope we have the option for Apps2SD
Well if the Desire can do 720p recording without any hacks, I suspect the Google folks will have to get on and sort out the N1's camera, else they're giving the Desire a large advantage over the N1.
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Me too, actually.
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What I really like and is essential is the better quality apps for Exchange support, Email/Calendar etc..are so much better from the Desire Rom, the features/options are much richer than the stock Rom. Simple things like move an item from you inbox to a subfolder in exchange doesn't exist on the stock Android.
It's the only reason I run Desire Rom on the N1 personally.
If it weren't for the Desire Rom, I likely would have sold the N1 shortly after purchase and went back to the iPhone. Sad I know. Still can't play GSM wav files from my Avaya modular messaging server though the Android without the RemoveWave app...Froyo didn't fix that either.
That stuff is 101 WinMo, iPhone, Blackberry device support...Android/Google can't seem to get one simple thing working like this in their Rom.
well i wonder when we will be able to have this on our N1 ... hopefully soon enough
I got to play with an Incredible today. I liked Sense UI. It was slick. Quite a bit of work went into it and it felt smooth and polished. Quite nice. My N1 is better now that I have ADW.launcher, but I'd love to try out Sense UI on here for a while.
Hopefully CM6 will have a nice interface and all, I think I might finally unlock my N1 to get CM6. Hopefully I can get something like Sense UI on there as well.
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I got to play with an Incredible today. I liked Sense UI. It was slick. Quite a bit of work went into it and it felt smooth and polished. Quite nice. My N1 is better now that I have ADW.launcher, but I'd love to try out Sense UI on here for a while.
Hopefully CM6 will have a nice interface and all, I think I might finally unlock my N1 to get CM6. Hopefully I can get something like Sense UI on there as well.
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CM doesn't change the interface at all but you can apply themes and morphs to it to change the overall look.
I've used sense UI so much but I just can't get into it over vanilla android. It's very existence is in a way making any sense UI phone a closed source device dependent on HTC to update. A whole second layer of someone interfering. Give me standard android!
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Well if the Desire can do 720p recording without any hacks, I suspect the Google folks will have to get on and sort out the N1's camera, else they're giving the Desire a large advantage over the N1.
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i was wondering the same exact thing
I hope with the release of Gingerbread, Sense won't be some of the things we Vanilla users sometimes crave.
anyone else seen this? anyone tried it out?
kingxklick.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14
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anyone else seen this? anyone tried it out?
kingxklick.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14
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Well he is known to be stealing other peoples work so not sure if i believe him
vikramdhani said:
Well he is known to be stealing other peoples work so not sure if i believe him
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LOL the phone function of the rom doesnt even work. im pretty sure he just downloaded uDKs rom and use dsixdi rom kitchen to port it
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anyone else seen this? anyone tried it out?
kingxklick.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14
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i have tried it this morning but its not usable
the graphics is scattered and i was not getting the cellular network
its like very very very alpha and can't be used.....i didnt check anyother options
I've switched from HTC Diamond2 (windows mobile 6.5x) to S/E Arc, and I miss the HTC interface.
Is it possible to load the android equivalent to this hardware?
Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher
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Get beautiful widget + Sense theme for ADW launcher
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thanks
Thanks vegetaleb for the reply! I see that it is possible to mimic the home screen layout really well. However, what Im looking for was the part of Sense that handled calendar related stuff like booking a meeting. In detail, I liked how the clock was changed like it was on a spinning wheel - which made it possible to change the time really fast. Maybe there is something similar in the Android world?
I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out
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I am missing some Sense apps as well, like the slide down Alarm that you will never find in other apps, if it was a Nexus One with 90% same components as HTC own phones you can ''port'' Sense into it by a custom rom, but when the hardwares are totally different here it's very difficult to do it.
SGS devs tried to port Desire rom but they never could, and they tried hard...
I hope you didn't see the new Sense 3.0, you will return to HTC once Sensation is out
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The phones hardware is identical to (apart from smaller storage,screen etc) to the Desire HD, it would be very portable to this device although the smaller storage would make it harder.
Small storage is not a problem, on N1 the DHD port was working great thanks to EXT3 of 1gb on SD
I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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ICS has a feature that all apps can be disabled (equivalent to 'freezing' in titanium backup - not removed but can't run)
SupaAvenger79 said:
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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If you root you can have anything you like - try CM7 (and when released, CM9 with ICS).
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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What kind of functionality did sense add? It was very pretty and the widgets were very good (calendar, for example) - but did it add any extra features?
I actually like Sense. Of all "major frameworks" like TouchWize and Blur and what not, Sense comes on TOP (my opinion only).
Now, can we live without sense? Perfectly.
Will HTC abandon Sense in ICS? Doubt it.
P.S. i run a rom with Sense daily... so.. biased
I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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This is my point! Pick Sense, remove social integration, custom widgets, dialer, sms app, and all the other minor things, and yout get AOSP. And the you miss those things.
I agree, Sense IS HEAVY. But for what it does, it's the best. How many apps would one have to install on AOSP to get the full sense functionality? And how slower would that device be with that amount of apps interchaining themselves?
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in short. ditch sense for the ICS UI
HTC will always add there own interpretation on what they think Ice Cream Sandwich will look like, and that is the way it is. But what I do hope is that they build on top of what Google has done instead of stripping everything out.
For example, mail apps, people apps are not stock and they should try to keep it true to what Google intended and maybe use the API that are exposed by Google to add there on stuff on top.
Also they should try to build a launcher that is not so heavy integrated to how the whole OS works, instead decouple it away so if there are updates needed to the OS it can fit nicely on top.
So no I don't think Sense will fade away, but I do hope the way they implement it is as close to stock as possible, just adding features on top of it.
i don't see the point in complaining about this since pretty much all of us here on this forum have the ability to root and just install vanilla ROM, or whatever you want
for the average user (NOT US!) HTC don't seem to do a pretty decent job with Sense, since developers here can prepare some very highly optimised versions. What i would prefer is for HTC to look at the ROMs present over here and take note.
I run RCMix HD sense 3.5 daily without any problems at all and while comparing it to my brother's iPhone 4, 9 times outta 10 this ROM is as smooth as or even smoother, and lets be fair as far as UI customisations go, HTC are alot further ahead than everyone else, but if they realise the potential in their own skin as the developers have shown, they could take a really hard fight to Apple as far as usability goes (hopefully with less lawsuits than samsung have).
HTC is not gonna remove sense 100%, as they mentioned before they gonna take it to next level sense 4.
So get ready
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Id tend to agree,the divide looks split with sense,personally i like sense. I tried cyn but reverted back,its different coming from say galaxy s to sense,you wont like it as much its your starting point dependant. Anyway yeah htc will continue. Nice
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HTC do something different with Sense and it's one of the reasons I (and others I know) bought an Android phone over another platform. The Sense UI seems to be much better than Touchwiz etc. (tried on Galaxy SII and was not a fan) - phones are a very personal choice at the end of the day and with Android we are a bit spoilt for choice between manufacturers.
Whatever HTC do now that Ice Cream Sandwich is inbound I look forward to their progress as they seem to be my preferred manufacturer right now, if I don't like what they come up with then I can always opt for the Galaxy Nexus or (judging by XDA currently) end up rooting and put stock a ICS ROM on there anyways.
I'm using sense and I must say I like it, when I saw the ics video launch it looked really similar to sense.
I really want to see what HTC is going to do and I hope it won't take too long...
Mymy, i love Sense, i have a Sense ROM in my phone everyday! I always thought that stock Android is ugly, but after i've seen ICS, i am ready to switch to ICS without regrets !
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
Actually i like sense but stock ICS looks promising to me. Would love to see a stock ICS with some sense widgets tho
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i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
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Exactly. I love how light and smooth CM feels but its just a whole lot more easier and convenient to have everything put on a platter in front of you....like Sense does. Especially with the social integration aspect in the people app and the calender.
Although an AOSP ICS Rom night change all of that for good. We do seem to have improvements in the contacts and calender apps.
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srikanth.naidu said:
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
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Agree with this post totally... but what I am hoping now is that ICS is much better on a UI point of view that HTC would not need to change so much of the OS and just tweak it a bit to add a bit of differential. This hopefully mean that it won't be so heavy. But then saying so, HW acceleration will help so much in transitions on the UI that maybe it won't feel as heavy.
I feel HTC should add on top of the existing UI instead of stripping and re-writing most of the Google Code.
Sense is definitely one of the best UI customizations available for Android. The focus on social integration is its biggest strength. At the same time its so heavy that it brings my phone to a standstill sometimes, which makes me want to just go back to AOSP now and then.
To get to the point, I doubt HTC will let Sense fade away that easily. It is their identity, and as MrKaon already mentioned, they're going to take it to the next level. Because ICS has a lot of that functionality now built in, I'm hoping HTC will rework Sense to make it much lighter. I'm eager to see what more they do with it !