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Posted on android central a little while ago. One step closer to new sense for the DI. I only see kernel and webkit source code, but better than nothing.
http://developer.htc.com/
The kernel is basically the only code they post. They will never post the source code for Sense UI because it is their rendition of AOSP and have it copyrighted, hence their power to issue a C and D to anyone who tries to release anything involving Sense (Fancy Widget for example). I'm surprised LauncherPro has lasted this long using an off-shoot of their widgets. The kernel source is all we need though because porting an OS is easy enough, but the kernel holds the drivers for some of the hardware to function properly with the software and the source code is necessary for manipulating this.
Thanks good to know
maybe eventually could lead to working cam on desire hd/z port though
djh816 said:
maybe eventually could lead to working cam on desire hd/z port though
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Yea the kernel definitely carries the drivers for that so it should help out quite a bit.
mb02 said:
Yea the kernel definitely carries the drivers for that so it should help out quite a bit.
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yea i hope this leads for a fix for the Z Rom cam. that rom is so snappy
bluewave53 said:
yea i hope this leads for a fix for the Z Rom cam. that rom is so snappy
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Me too thats the one thing from making that my daily driver.
Wasn't the froyo OTA source code released for the incredible?
Shamelessly stolen from the G2 forum :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34
More on Gingerbread :
Official info on 2.3 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html
SDK now available - see above or also http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html to upgrade your SDK or download the whole package at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Can't wait till it's ported to the G2 / DZ!
The Google (Samsung) Nexus S has been officially announced though (shipping on Dec 16), so that'll be first with 2.3. Hopefully it won't be too long before we get some custom ROMs cooked up (which is bound to be sooner than an official update for our phones).
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/index
Before the D Z was released there was lots of talk about whether it would meet the min specs for gingerbread. I've not seen mention in any of the posts about gingerbread across the net as to what these specs are. Does anyone know?
Will the D Z run this comfortably?
H4rry said:
Before the D Z was released there was lots of talk about whether it would meet the min specs for gingerbread. I've not seen mention in any of the posts about gingerbread across the net as to what these specs are. Does anyone know?
Will the D Z run this comfortably?
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Gingerbread is only a minor update, not the major update people thought it was originally. And the whole minimum spec thing was debunked as false a while back, I believe.
So yes, it'll be fine.
woohoo, cheers for that mate.
Is any of you Android techies able to tell whether this 2.3 update will fix the Bluetooth initiated voice dialing?
I couldn't find anything there except for 'BlueZ' whatever that is....????
sent from htc desire Z
From what I've read usually a phone gets updated once or twice. Wish they would skip this then.
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wolek76 said:
Is any of you Android techies able to tell whether this 2.3 update will fix the Bluetooth initiated voice dialing?
I couldn't find anything there except for 'BlueZ' whatever that is....????
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BlueZ is the Bluetooth stack. So I guess we can hope they might have fixed this if it was a problem ? Sorry I have no idea whether that's the case or not, just that the notes do say that BlueZ is updated.
Was just wondering, since HTC has released the source for the Flyer would it now be possible for devs to port it to our little tablet that could?
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This is a fantastic idea if we can get some of these great developers to port this. I'd much rather have a Flyer rom than a MIUI rom which is just recently rolling out. I was considering getting one once they were available but heck you can't beat the NC in price plus it gives me something along with my HD2 to modify and keep my sanity lol...
Holy crap, didn't even know of it. Sounds great!
racks11479 said:
Holy crap, didn't even know of it. Sounds great!
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Racks does this mean you'll give it a shot. I'm down to try but I'm not sure how compatible the kernel is and I really dread doing any kernel work.
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I'm excited with just possibility, wish I had more experience to actually give porting this a go.
This helps a lot. I've been trying to port this recently, but It has been slow. This will help a lot! (Can't start today, got OS X Lion to install)
That is awesome to hear.
Racks,
This would be amazing if you could get ahold of this system dump( source codes) and create one of your amazing ROMs to run off The SD card this would be fantastic. You and all the developers are doing great things for all us NC owners. Thanks for all you do...
Before people actually get ANY hopes up..
All HTC has done, is release the KERNEL source code, not the OS source code. The kernel code is worthless, since the Flyer has completely different hardware from us. This is not the OS source, so we are still where we were before; stuck trying to port Sense binaries..
I see...thanks for the info Mr Madcat ... I'm still somewhat new for the roms. On the nook...been using different roms on my HD2 forever but am still a noob in the NC forum.
Divine_Madcat said:
Before people actually get ANY hopes up..
All HTC has done, is release the KERNEL source code, not the OS source code. The kernel code is worthless, since the Flyer has completely different hardware from us. This is not the OS source, so we are still where we were before; stuck trying to port Sense binaries..
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He's got a point. This isn't the Sense UI code, but it could help.
Boo I assumed it included os source.
I'd be pretty darn interested in that too...
http://htcdev.com/
What does this mean for us HD2 users?
It means we might have to wait a bit longer for the actual source to come available.. But there might be some interesting things in this ROM. We will know shortly
Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.
MikeG4936 said:
Sorry to keep asking questions, but what source is needed? I see the source for the GB kernels for various phones - what exactly is missing?
Just trying to understand better.
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Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel source). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.
but it can't be to long from now till the sources are released.
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Asking questions is never wrong .. The source files contain drivers for the different phones, which is why they are all released seperately. Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
What has been released on HTCdev.com (if I understand correctly), is the ROM upgrade itself, and not the actual kernel source. It may seem weird, because it is the only 'official' ROM upgrade that has been put up on HTCdev.com yet. They are not releasing it OTA (over the air) to all Desires, so they had to put it somewhere easy to be found by devs. This is why it has been put up on that page, which might have been confusing (because many would think it actually is the kernel sournce). As far as I can see, the package only contains the upgrade itself and 2 APK's. Usually it takes a while longer for this to become available, but per Linux license they are obliged to release it. Eventually.
I think there will be some interesting APK's in this ROM nevertheless.. We'll just have to wait until someone (one of the dev's) has explored the ROM thoroughly.
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Excellente. Couldn't have said it better. The update's been out for almost a week. And from videos that I've seen, HTC did not upgrade the Sense version to 2.1 or 2.0 for the matter.
But of course all we need is the kernel source.
I'd also like to ask any of the devs:
Will a new kernel need to be compiled when the Desire gingerbread source is released? Hint hint: Rafpigna 2.1?
Also, I'm not familiar with the OC deal, but is it possible to overclock over 1.5 ghz on our HD2? I've seen 1.9 ghz on Desire Z/G2, and almost 1.8 ghz on the DHD.
BLAST3RR said:
Every device has different hardware, and the Desire has the closest resemblence to the hardware found in our HD2. This is also why many think the Desire source will really help in the development of Gingerbread ROM versions on the HD2 (like it did before on the previous Android releases, for example the camera).
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Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..
SilverHedgehog said:
Does this mean that the the HD2 is on it's "last breath" with Android? Since the Desire isn't getting updated past Gingerbread...
What about Nexus One then? It is pretty much a redesigned Desire.
Or is this necessary for Sense ROMs only, and AOSP ROMs will still work?
Wouldn't it be possible to port something like Leedroid HD then? Since it's on the Desire and it works perfectly..
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With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..
Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.
SilverHedgehog said:
Grr... It's a bad day to own both the Desire and the HD2.
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True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5
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True.. But I for one never could have dreamed my HD2 to be top-notch more than a year later.. It certainly was one of my best buys ever. Imagine life when we'd still be stuck on that creepy WM6.5
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Haha, that's true, I guess... I never even got to touch WM6.5 on my HD2, I bought it from Ebay with WP7. Tried it and didn't like it that much. So now I'm wondering which phone should be my primary, HD2 or Desire..
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With Sense builds it is the end of the road I guess.. At least for any Android releases after Gingerbread. With the other builds I am not sure.. We have quite some driver source available, and with that we can probably simply compile them on the newer AOSP and non-sense ROMS. Sense is really a problem when it comes to source, because it is proprietary software written by HTC (no full source for Sense to simply cross-compile their libs). This is also why it is so hard to make decent Sense-builds whenever a new major Android release comes out. I could be wrong here though.
Let's wait for a dev to come over and shed some light ..
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I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
captainreynolds said:
I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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It's just the Sense development that will be near to impossible to be perfect.. The rest will be continued as long as there are developers interested in our HD2.
captainreynolds said:
I'm confused - why would the HD2 be on it's last legs?
People are still developing ROMs for my G1 - hell, there's even a honeycomb rom for my G1. Until people quit developing for the HD2, I guarantee it will be on par with other devices.
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The hd2 development won't die, merely the Sense ROM development unless HTC make an ice cream sandwich update for the Desire (which is unlikely but possible as Google have stated ics has been designed to work on all Android devices to date). AOSP ROMs will probably continue as long as the device stays popular.
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I just went on this sure cause I got an email from htc saying the site launched. Now I know we need the kernel source, but I just noticed this in the kernel source page:
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) Upgrade for HTC Desire
Or is that not enough?
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Is this the source code for the Motoactv, including hardware drivers?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/motoactv.motorola/files/MOTOACTV-Americas/1.7.11/
Does this mean we may be able to get newer android versions?
gigaguy said:
Is this the source code for the Motoactv, including hardware drivers?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/motoactv.motorola/files/MOTOACTV-Americas/1.7.11/
Does this mean we may be able to get newer android versions?
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I can't imagine getting any newer versions to run on this thing. The current version (ClearDroid rom) doesn't even run with multitasking.
shusain93 said:
I can't imagine getting any newer versions to run on this thing. The current version (ClearDroid rom) doesn't even run with multitasking.
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What do you mean by that? I can multitask fine with mine.....granted, there is only so much you can do with 256MB of ram but it still works.
The actv is capable of doing anything the OG droid could do given the right files are made available......the OG droid could run jellybean (albeit not very well). From what I gather, kit kat has a smaller memory footprint so would perform better. I don't know if these files are the correct sources to get it working though. Sadly, most development has moved on so I'm not sure we will ever know even if it is possible.
EDIT: After looking at the code posted a little more deeply, it does appear this is indeed source code including drivers and kernel source.
Artimis said:
What do you mean by that? I can multitask fine with mine.....granted, there is only so much you can do with 256MB of ram but it still works.
The actv is capable of doing anything the OG droid could do given the right files are made available......the OG droid could run jellybean (albeit not very well). From what I gather, kit kat has a smaller memory footprint so would perform better. I don't know if these files are the correct sources to get it working though. Sadly, most development has moved on so I'm not sure we will ever know even if it is possible.
EDIT: After looking at the code posted a little more deeply, it does appear this is indeed source code including drivers and kernel source.
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...Really? If someone did something with this it'd sure bring back my excitement for the Motoactv!