First, I just wanted to ask if a Nandroid backup on one CDMA hero could be safely used on another CDMA hero. I should specify that there are 2 different versions of RA on the phone...for some reason my phone wouldn't work with v1.5.2 and my brothers wouldn't with 1.2.3
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I am attempting to reinstall Teeter on my phone from the Fresh Rom Pre-Kitchen 0.2 and it simply won't work. Debug on pre-kitchen comes through fine, I have install lock screens on 2 phones from it but couldn't get teeter to reinstall on either.
Any help would be greatly appreciated...thanks
I know for a fact that a Nandroid backup from one device will not work on another, atleast not the whole backup. Some portions of the backup are non-device-specific, while others are. I don't know about the Teeter problem though... I have never tried to reinstall an app. Have you made sure that you have allowed the phone to install from unknown sources?
you could just push it to your phone manually
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you could just push it to your phone manually
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+1 on that. Everything always goes more smoothly for me when I do it manually and know exactly what's goin on.
mrinehart93 said:
I know for a fact that a Nandroid backup from one device will not work on another, atleast not the whole backup. Some portions of the backup are non-device-specific, while others are. I don't know about the Teeter problem though... I have never tried to reinstall an app. Have you made sure that you have allowed the phone to install from unknown sources?
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I've used backups from other phones quite a few times with no problems. one from my phone is currently being used by another member on xda with no problems. my gf got a new hero from sprint (paint chip on end key) and we restored her backup with no problems yet. that was three weeks ago.
I'm not saying your wrong, but my personal experience is otherwise..
I have tried pushing it, and (teeter) will not install, it gives me an error and says that it cannot be installed.
Tomorrow I will try other files to see if they work but other than a corrupt file I'm not sure what the problem could be.
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i have been trying to find this out - why i need to do one????
You don't have to ... up to you .
It is for peace of mind .
It things don't workout or you don't like what you did ...
You can put the phone back to what it was !
If you wish to fly with no parachute ...
Then jump ...
Please let us know how the landing goes
Does the nandroid only back up the software and settings -
If i just download the rom from HTC then that will put it back to the latest official rom wont it..
i was under the impression that a Original hero was only 1 rom away?
You don't need a nandroid backup at all. I use it all the time though.
You just asked a question that Dan330 had already answered in his previous post... yes it backs up basically everything. There are a few things that it doesn't back up but they aren't too significant (They are left out to prevent further problems).
If you downloaded a rom from HTC well, Duh. Of course it will put it back to the official rom. If it's rootable, then you can just restore a nandroid backup if you wanna go back to what you had before. Hopefully the HTC rom doesn't prevent you from rooting otherwise you won't be able to.
What the heck do you mean Original Hero was 1 rom away? Huh?
HTC Rom image will restore the rom.
A 'normal' data backup will store the data, ie drag from the SD card.
You can reinstall any marketplace apps from the marketplace.
The Google cloud will store calendar, contacts, mail, etc.
For the average user, nandroid is not necessary. But I understand the usefulness to a rom cooking enthusiast and the speed of a single backup. All the averages do not need to worry about nandroid though.
thank you cbailey
and sorry KAwAtA i was rushing to work - and talking crap at the same time...
I never even thought that HTC would try and stop you from rooting the phone....
just always thought that having a unbranded HTC ment i can install any rom at any time, and still install the latest HTC Rom if i wanted.
Very New to Rooting. so i need a few weeks to catch up.
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
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Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
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Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
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Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
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Nandroid takes a complete image of your phone as it is, will restore it all exactly as it was at the time you backed it up.
if your looking to change roms then you need to use another app to backup your data and apps.
Aha,... Nice one Lenny!!
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having problems.. Im using the old ra for some reason it doesnt let me perform an nandroid back up... I tried teh newer ra same problm...any suggestions???
I haven't used adb cuz i havent been able to set it up. But i have flashed Damaged control succesfully by mounting the zip on the sd card. i flashed it a couple times since ive tried installing Nexus one launcher by flashing from sd card but nothing just messed up rosie. i couldnt restore my older Rom it kept telling me use adb. Fail lol but i flashed damage control 2.05 back and working fine maybe faster. What i want to know is how to get the nandroid restore fixed or working for emergencies.
alt f4 fixes it all
huh? Confused..
he was trying to be "smart" and gave you a bogus answer if you combo press alt + F4 it will exit your screen... Not really sure what your question is though if you are asking as to why your Nandroid won't restore properly it's because you have to "wipe" your cache before doing a nandroid if you are going back to a version that is different than the currently flashed rom. Hope this helps if not then ... perhaps you could re-phrase your question.
~Danny
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I haven't used adb cuz i havent been able to set it up. But i have flashed Damaged control succesfully by mounting the zip on the sd card. i flashed it a couple times since ive tried installing Nexus one launcher by flashing from sd card but nothing just messed up rosie. i couldnt restore my older Rom it kept telling me use adb. Fail lol but i flashed damage control 2.05 back and working fine maybe faster. What i want to know is how to get the nandroid restore fixed or working for emergencies.
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The only way I fixed that is by running the nandroid restore through adb like it says to do. I don't understand how you don't have adb installed but you have the phone rooted? I had to get all that working to root my phone and having adb is an invaluable tool anyway.
I did read that the nandroid error sometime comes up when the sdcard is too full so you could see if that is the case. Also, as someone suggested you could try a factory reset/wipe and then try again to nandroid through recovery.
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The only way I fixed that is by running the nandroid restore through adb like it says to do. I don't understand how you don't have adb installed but you have the phone rooted? I had to get all that working to root my phone and having adb is an invaluable tool anyway.
I did read that the nandroid error sometime comes up when the sdcard is too full so you could see if that is the case. Also, as someone suggested you could try a factory reset/wipe and then try again to nandroid through recovery.
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theres different ways to root your phone lol
The only way I fixed that is by running the nandroid restore through adb like it says to do. I don't understand how you don't have adb installed but
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theres different ways to root your phone lol
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Yup,i don't even have a pc (seriously I don't)
I did run into this problem though, not sure exactly what I did but it worked itself out, maybe try flashing a different recovery image,Or try keeping phone plugged into charger(not sure what significance that has but it did seem to go for me after I was having those problems) which recovery image do you have?
Did you rename the Nandroid backup you were trying to restore to? If you did, and the file name has a space in it, it will tell you to restore via ADB. Just a thought from the limited info you provided.
I had this problem and it fixed itself out and all i did was wipe everything thats under the wipe option in recovery and it worked for me.
Yeah it was actually the cache you guys were right. i did it on my own and thought that might be it. and now i know that was it from checkin the thread. yeah i used pre kitchen to auto root my phone. im actually running damage control 2.05 now the newest sprint leak.damn i love it lol. but imma reflash it cuz i tried to flash a nexus theme/ no luck i want a nexus one interface!!!!!
So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...
Hmm. Mine does.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.
I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?
I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.
It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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oh haha i was about to post.
Is there a way to take a nandroid backup from a phone, and move it to another phone? I'm having an issue with my X's screen and it would make my life very easy if I could just use a nandroid backup to bring it back how I like it when Verizon gives me the new device.
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Is there a way to take a nandroid backup from a phone, and move it to another phone? I'm having an issue with my X's screen and it would make my life very easy if I could just use a nandroid backup to bring it back how I like it when Verizon gives me the new device.
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Yes... You can.. but it would require someone to SBF their phone, then wipe data/cache. Then they would need to root their phone and install bootstrap all without every having set up any kind of accounts (fbook, gmail, etc.)
Whenever you take a nandroid, it captures all data on the phone...so essentially if you took a nandroid from someone who regularly uses their phone... you would wind up with all of their accounts and what not... Prob not something most people want to give out.
I would suggest using RSDlite and the correct SBF file for your bootloader version.
I think you misunderstood me. My own phone is getting replaced (screen issue), and I wanted to see if I could make a nandroid now, put it on my computer/sdcard, then load it on my new phone that Verizon sends me.
Ah! Then yes that should work. Agfter installing bootstrap you would just need to paste the nandroid folder (using the yyyymmdd-hhmm or whatever the folder title style is) into the /sdcard/clockwordmod/backup folder.
I dont think there should be any problem...but I dont know anyone that has tried this.
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I did this to fix a buddy's phone. Made a nandroid of my phone and restored it on his. Just don't rename the folder to something with spaces. He did this and it ended up not working. I replaced the spaces with underscores and it worked fine.
Yes this will work. Just make a nandroid before you return it and restore it when you get a new one. However, make sure that you are using the latest software version when you make the backup or you will brick your phone trying to restore it
I just don't get this. I have used Titanium Pro for years, but on the newest phones it seems to be a bit of a CLUSTERF* and it is getting really damned annoying.
Oh sure, I try the inactive/interactive settings change, but the same crap. Never had to mess with it in the past.
Has Titanium lost their mojo as the premium android backup solution? Is there something new that actually works reliably on Current phones? ARGH
My experiences are with both SuperSU and Superuser.
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I just don't get this. I have used Titanium Pro for years, but on the newest phones it seems to be a bit of a CLUSTERF* and it is getting really damned annoying.
Oh sure, I try the inactive/interactive settings change, but the same crap. Never had to mess with it in the past.
Has Titanium lost their mojo as the premium android backup solution? Is there something new that actually works reliably on Current phones? ARGH
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Could you be more specific? It works great for me.
Oh, and this is not development...
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It is still the best Android backup solution
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I still use it with no problems.
I've noticed no changes, works fantastic for me. Been using pro before it was on the market.
Same here, using it fine on stock rom with cwm recovery and root.
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Could you be more specific? It works great for me.
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The well documented freezing on restores. I honestly love this app. Don't get me wrong. I was venting a bit. But the first time I've encountered this was on my htc one and now this G2. Not sure why. Since I only got it today, I decided to Factory Restore it and will go from there.
If I offended anyone, please don't be. It was not my intention.
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The well documented freezing on restores. I honestly love this app. Don't get me wrong. I was venting a bit. But the first time I've encountered this was on my htc one and now this G2. Not sure why. Since I only got it today, I decided to Factory Restore it and will go from there.
If I offended anyone, please don't be. It was not my intention.
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The only time I have had this issue was when I was restoring a 4.2+ feature on a 4.1 ROM (ie Lockscreen widget on Note 2).
I even back everything up from each phone to Dropbox and restore apps with data on a different device. I expected issues with this but was pleasantly surprised.
And I highly doubt you offended anyone I was just curious what issues you were having.
Hope you get it sorted out!
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Never had a problem with Titanium
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The only time I have had this issue was when I was restoring a 4.2+ feature on a 4.1 ROM (ie Lockscreen widget on Note 2).
I even back everything up from each phone to Dropbox and restore apps with data on a different device. I expected issues with this but was pleasantly surprised.
And I highly doubt you offended anyone I was just curious what issues you were having.
Hope you get it sorted out!
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You sir, might just be a genius This backup was done on the same version of titanium, but it was from a backup done on my previous htc one running a 4.3 rom. that has to be it.
*Kicks self in butt, repeatidly*. Thank you!!
Never had the freeze on restore issue. But it would be annoying if it were a regular problem. I think Joel has done a good job though keeping up with all the changes that Android throws out there. It's a tough row to sow to have an app of that magnitude working all the time on every make, model and OS version.
Worked flawlessly migrating from a DNA to the G2. It's you.
heh. I can't even get it into download mode. I think the problem is I used a "install twrp without root" from the forums here. it seemed to fail. Looking closer it appears to change the kernel stupid me didn't notice first. Looking to restore phone to factory default. Downloading now
Ended up having to have Titanium create an update.zip of my apps. restored via recovery. Odd. Trying Cleanrom today and will see how that goes.
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heh. I can't even get it into download mode. I think the problem is I used a "install twrp without root" from the forums here. it seemed to fail. Looking closer it appears to change the kernel stupid me didn't notice first. Looking to restore phone to factory default. Downloading now
Ended up having to have Titanium create an update.zip of my apps. restored via recovery. Odd. Trying Cleanrom today and will see how that goes.
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OK, so the problem did seem to due to the backup being created from a 4.3 rom on htc one. After installing the apps using the created update.zip, I then deleted all titanium backups and did a new one from the G2. I then did a factory reset, reinstalled Titanium and then restored without issue. Happy Happy Joy Joy.
Thanks guys.
are you restoring data? restoring data from one version of android to another, or one phone to another especially a diff version, will always give you a problem.
i don't even use titanium to restore apps when i get a new phone..i'd rather my new phone start off clean and build it's own data to backup.
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are you restoring data? restoring data from one version of android to another, or one phone to another especially a diff version, will always give you a problem.
i don't even use titanium to restore apps when i get a new phone..i'd rather my new phone start off clean and build it's own data to backup.
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only downloaded app data, never system. Also, solved.