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Super D vs Dwang

Just curious about the comparison and contrast between these two roms from experienced users who have tried out both. I understand I would need the danger spl for super d, but I don't know enough to know if thats a pro or con lol. Have only tried a couple roms including Dwangs latest, any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I tried out Dwangs as my first option when I decided to move from Cyan's. It wasn't bad. Then I tried SuperD's and never went back. Dwang is nice but I felt like it lacked the "polish" that SuperD has.

For those of you unaware Super-D was based off of Dwang which is the D in Super-D. Htcclay started super-D then his comp got messed up so he gave control to Bb instead.Just a little history lessons for the kiddies and keep it clean.

Nice history...Ace42, that so true I remember when I first got super D and it was by HTc clay...

In my experience, there is very little difference between the 2... Super D is a heavier version of Dwang's, and has a different Kernel than Dwang's... both are very fast, very stable, and very capable of taking your G1 to the max!
Personally, I am a Dwang man myself. But I do have an alter ego that prefers the Super D!... wait, I have said too much, disregard that last comment.

pjcforpres said:
In my experience, there is very little difference between the 2... Super D is a heavier version of Dwang's, and has a different Kernel than Dwang's... both are very fast, very stable, and very capable of taking your G1 to the max!
Personally, I am a Dwang man myself. But I do have an alter ego that prefers the Super D!... wait, I have said too much, disregard that last comment.
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Then there is the real you that has a nexus

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Then there is the real you that has a nexus
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It is pretty darn sweet! I actually still have the G1, my lady won't let me sell it since she uses it for the interwebs at school instead of lugging around her laptop...

I love super d but I have come to the conclusion that super d's biggest flaw is its connection speed... I benchmarked it using speedtest and extremelabs speedtest. .... and the 3g speed in the mlign hero 3.3 was faster in a ratio of 5:1!

I like Dwang a lot but I use SuperD because of more locales...

Thanks for all the feedback guys, so far i've tried both dwang, and super d 1.8. Like them both, but prefer super d just due to the extra touches of the rom.
My main quest now tho would have to be battery life. Super D seems pretty good on battery, but I might as well give cyanogen and this new "fasttest" by htcclay a whirl.
Any thoughts on battery life of these roms?
Is it safe to assume a faster rom is going to use more battery?

Which ROM have YOU flashed?

Sup everyone.
Just curious to whats going on in the EVO community, as far as who flashed which ROM, and why. Maybe even provide a link to the ROM, or the dev site! That always helps too. So lets start with mine::
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1) Which custom ROM are you using? (or Stock?)
- Currently running Fresh 0.2 Custom ROM. Loving the speed and nearly bugless experience. Custom navi-bar is a nice feature, but currently running LauncherPro on top of it.
2) Why are you using it?
- Considering its my first real ROM experience, Fresh seems to be the more popular of the bunch. Sticking with it until something else awesome comes out, or maybe this one can just get better. ^_^
3) Pros / Cons?
- PROS - Fast, reliable, nearly no errors, at all. Trust-worthy name in the ROM society. Removes unwanted Apps and bettery life seems pretty fair. Can only get better.
- CONS - Seem to be having trouble changing wallpapers. (getting FC?)

1.32.651.6 rooted I just wanted root and I like the Sprint and HTC programs

Damaged 3.0
Its fast, stable and everything works.
Once the asop like builds and or froyi get mms receive / camera working I'll probably move to one of those.

1. Bugless Pete 3.0
2. like the stock experience (first android phone), didnt want something with GUI hacks
3. Pros: incredibly fast, no ads, everything works
Cons: Need a second flash to get rid of Sprint Apps

BuglessBeast
Using it for the battery life improvements and built in task killer
Fast, stable and excellent battery life.
No problems yet, but I havent done anything tasking with it.

Stock rooted 1.32.651.6 that Flipz provided. Took out all the stuff I didn't want, and put ADW Launcher on it. It's basically perfect now. I've been wanting to flash some other stuff but I haven't seen anything to sway me from this setup yet.

I've done about 4 of the
OMJ ROM's are stable, everything works, Sprint Apps are excluded. Advantages (since I'm new to Android) are different programs he puts in his ROMs. This is the one I use when I need my phone usable.
I tried the EVOlution ROMs. Froyo is definitely quicker and cooler. I can't wait until we can get it. There are too many things that unstable or unusable about it. I mean, I got kids so I NEED my camera at any given moment.
I flashed one that I didn't know what the difference was. That was really just a test for ROM Manager, which makes the process 100% easy. Just a few clicks and your done.
My next one which just finished DLing is DamageControl 3.0. He advertised well. Sposed to be quick stable and battery saving. All benefits to me.
I also use Titanium Backup so I can restore my customizations. Saves a bunch of time as well. Be careful though cuz a customization on one ROM could mean a bootloop on another.

I use OMJ's Vanilla "eclair" rom with all the sprint and htc crap removed. it's glorious!

Fresh 0.2 for me. Just because I liked his stuff on the hero.
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Fresh 0.2. Flipz always did me right with my hero. Tried out the Evolution Froyo rom just to see how Froyo ran on the Evo. Definately nice. Can't wait to have a fully working rom. Tried OMJ for a while. Will probably stick with Fresh rom. He makes a pretty stable rom and always has some tricks up his sleeves for the next build.

I'm running RvU 1.3.2. I then used Buggless bloatware removal, installed Overclock..
I did it because of battery drain.. Before, I was getting about 8-12 hours of use + sleep (3g). Now, I'm pushing 35-40 with use and sleep (these results are when using wifi only, I'm still experimenting with 3g).

DamageControl v3 but switched to EVOlution V7 last night and it's running great.

Stuck switching between FroYo and DC.
I would love to have everything working, but it's just so hard with how sexy FroYo is

Flipz "Fresh Evo 0.2" ... and i upgraded to .3 using ROM Manager.

Running Baked Snack .7 . Stupid fast and I love his customization to the battery icon, notifications and the notification bar. Plus the battery life has been improved as well.

EVOlution v7...If I need a camera ill just load my saved 2.1 in a couple minutes and roll..
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only tried fresh although I think it has a memory leak because my available memory keeps on going down the longer I keep my phone booted. Could be wrong.

Hero's Hero said:
Stuck switching between FroYo and DC.
I would love to have everything working, but it's just so hard with how sexy FroYo is
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Same, cant pull myself way from Avalaunch's ROM, Froyo is too nice....

Right now I'm running DamageControl v3.0, I really wanna tryp flipz fresh .3 but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get into adb on my comp, I've been googling and going through posts here for a few hours now to no avail

Have flashed:
EVOlution: Amazing, but no cameras
Damaged 3.0/.1/.1.1: Nice, and a lot of innovative features, but was too buggy.
Currently running:
Bugless: It doesn't try to do anything fancy, and because of that, everything works great and its fast and sleek.

Fastest Rom For The G1?

Ive been running Cannon202 rom its pretty quick but ive seen faster..
What's the fastest and most stable rom out right now?
Its a matter of a opinion i know

SuperBad is faster, but i like Cannon's better.

Naa use chromatic 3.5 its super fast and really stable it even comes with set cpu so u can over clock u should try it its really good

If you want to go fast then sadly you might just have to downgrade to donut and go with SuperD. There is a speed loss on eclair as compared to donut, but I like eclair so much more...

another great donut rom is superfast v1.3.3 fastest rom I've ever used
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Chromatic 3.6 is blazing fast!
Thanks for the recommendation!

CyanogenMOD 5.0.8 is pretty quick.

Jincos said:
CyanogenMOD 5.0.8 is pretty quick.
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Cyanogen 5.0.8 is actually very stable but very slow. atleast to me it is.
Ive tried SuperE, Cyanogen, CaNNoN202, SpeedTeam and Chromatic Eclair roms. And so far Chromatic seems alot faster than all those roms.
SpeedTeam's and CaNNoN202's roms are decently quick and stable.
But SuperE had to be the biggest disappointment.

I've been using cyanogen and didn't think it was worth it to try something else, since most things are just built on it. I'm about to try Chromatic though.

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I've been using cyanogen and didn't think it was worth it to try something else, since most things are just built on it. I'm about to try Chromatic though.
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Yeah I highly suggest it!
Tell me what you think.

I like it, its colors go way better with the way I have my widgets and stuff setup.
I don't like the lack of apps menu button on the launcher though, and would prefer normal icons instead of the white shapes.
Also it seems like every single thing installed on the phone is running when it starts up.

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I like it, its colors go way better with the way I have my widgets and stuff setup.
I don't like the lack of apps menu button on the launcher though, and would prefer normal icons instead of the white shapes.
Also it seems like every single thing installed on the phone is running when it starts up.
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Yeah I don't care for the Apps menu button too, it doesn't bother me too much though. You should try LauncherPro its just as good.
Yeah as for the apps running in the background I highly suggest downloading Advanced Task Killer and turning on Auto-Kill. It saves a grip load of battery life.

I'm using Cyanogenmod-5 For Dream/Magic - Mean Lean Pastry Machine - V5.0.8 (06/19/2010)on my G1 and it's fast.....

To get the nexus squares back on the launcher on chromatic, install the latest system version of the ADW launcher (0.90) by pershoot. You do loose the cool symbol on the search bar and the highlight on the squares is back to orange, but everything else is the same. .86 is installed by default.
Edit: the link: http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=680

jubeh's AOSP 2.2 is pretty fast. no OC and no swap needed. camera and gps aren't important to me so i will be using this as a daily driver.

The last couple of days, ive been trying to decide for myself on this exact topic. I suggest SpeedTeam for Eclair (its super fast and battery efficient; almost a full 2 days with light/medium use wwith close to 17% left on charge).
Jriv is right though. if you want fast, downgrade to superfast 1.3.3. Its rediculous how fast it is. by far the fastest ive used.

I think that Chromatic 3.7 is the best and the fastest software for G1 by now. Also there is no errors in it, lots of theming and CM goodies + gapps + preinstalled apps like EStrongs File Explorer.

Are we talking about 2.1 ROMs here? Or any ROM? Because I have yet to find a 2.1 ROM with the speed of a 1.6 ROM.

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Are we talking about 2.1 ROMs here? Or any ROM? Because I have yet to find a 2.1 ROM with the speed of a 1.6 ROM.
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I have been running SuperD 1.9.3 for a week after using SuperE for a month. I honestly notice absolutely no difference in speeds averaged over time. Some tasks that are slow in Donut (web browsing) are faster in Eclair (task switching) and vice versa. I don't generally play any games or do any CPU intensive stuff, so I can't comment there, but for basic, everyday tasks, they both seem to perform about the same.
Battery life is the only thing that keeps me from using Eclair full time.

Best Legend rom!!

Hi!
Just a quick question please. I've got a Nexus one on CM6 and all happy with it. My mate's got a Legend though and has got loads of niggly problems and issues with it and wants me to root it, wipe it, and put a new rom on in for him to give him a fresh start.
So obviously not being so familiar with all the rom options on the legend, could anyone advise which rom is the best and most stable to flash? From looking around it seems the indigo bean rom looks like the best all rounder. what about the cyanogen one though?
Thanks a lot!

I'm using azure (0.5 version, don't wont to update just yet) (Froyo, Cynogenmod6.0)
Well, I really love HTC sense, just for most of the apps (mail, keyboard, browser), but now I'm on this CM6.0 mod for quite a while and I am starting to like it.
It's a bit faster (noticeable) and its quite stable, haven't noticed many issues.
I would definitely recommend this ROM.
(I've got the jonas htc 1.5 keyboard installed, just can't live without this one)
If you stick to sense, just make sure he gets the latest radio and version 2.... versions before 2. where noticeable SLOWER ...

Well there is no best in anything actually. Depends on what he's looking for in a rom. If its for speed go for Kyosa's CM, its the fastest rom so far on the Legend. Have some issues on it though, so not really practical for everyday use. Azure's CM on the other hand it stable, but a bit slower. I personally use the Azure's rom from ali ba, so I would recommend that one.

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.

My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1

Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.

^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.

The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.

I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.

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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.

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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.

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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.

Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.

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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?

I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.

I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!

wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?

PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->

I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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