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...definitive solution to the overheating (and subsequent crap battery life) issue with the Tytn/Hermes/8525?
This seems to be one of the most prevalent hardware-related problems I've encountered after perusal of numerous boards.
Charging, it heats up. Duh. Fine. Disconnect, put it in my breast pocket after it cools down, twiddle my thumbs. During this whole time, for purposes of this test, EVERYTHING is switched off: phone radio, wifi, bt, push, and as many of the background processes as I can kill without having the phone hang on me.
You'd think the symptoms would be the same every time. But nooooo...this thing has a mind of its own. Sometimes it'll be 5 mins before I start feeling the heat, sometimes 40. It's totally unpredictable. I've tried every way I can find to extend the battery life with no luck; this is getting retarded.
So: Battery life drops drastically once the thing starts heating up. But not before. From 3PM to 4PM today, battery life was at 100% and did not move. Sweeeet! I thought...too soon. Got that warm and fuzzy feeling - then it's in free fall. 10% down in 45mins, another 20% by 5:30, dead as a doornail by 8PM. That's exactly FIVE hours of "standby" with ZERO activity. Screen was turned on maybe 4 times just to check battery status. 200 hours of standby?? Sure, in a deep freezer packed with dry ice...
Installed Batti: if anyone with close to normal (advertised?) battery life has also installed it, could you tell me what your temperatures are like? When I'm charging, I'm at 35.6C. My voltage is at 4.213V - this might be the problem since the battery is listed as a 3.7V 1500mAH. Also, I removed the charger for about 30 seconds after Batti said it was charged, then reinserted it. It took about 30 minutes to tell me again that it was full - all the while listing the "Percent" as 100%. Gah!
Anyway - back to the reason I've posted:
1) Is this a phone issue, tweak/registry/software issue, or a good old fashioned battery issue? I've got another battery coming in shortly but it's nothing special, not sure of the brand, just want to compare it to this one - which is a Seidio.
2) If anyone else has had this problem and solved it, please let me know what you did.
3) This phone is for sale if anyone wants it and knows how to fix it. Other than the 5 hours of battery life, the phone is perfect.
Thanks all!
The only time I've ever had this problem was when I installed the very first Palringo mobile beta, and it continuously polled the Palringo servers whenever it was connected... I had a battery life of about an hour and a half!
I can only suggest you have some poorly-written app on your device which is polling some piece of hardware or using (or trying to use!) the data connection, subsequently failing and looping round to try again and again.
I'm not using Batti (using the BatteryStatus Today Screen plugin), but it shows temps - I'm charging my device at the moment and it shows ~41 degrees celcius. When I unplug the charger, I have about 70mW usage and when I tap to turn the backlight back on it roughly doubles (backlight on its lowest setting). Using roughly 40-45mA just idling, I have push mail turned on and ActiveSync is syncing probably every 5/10 minutes or so (can't remember the interval).
I get about a day's worth of usage including regular phone usage, data usage, then locking the device (including turning the backlight off) when it's just on the desk or in my pocket (less if I have BT turned on all the time, obviously). All I can think of is that you have some app on there which is either interacting with something else or causing the problem itself.
@slidizzy:
what is the manufacturer name on the battery?
There are threads around about certain manufacturer brands (there are a couple of different brands) and their performance..
i had a dynatec and it was crappy.. took it back and got a sanyo battery and all was good...
Possible solution - Same geographic location
Hi. I seemed to have the same problem recently. I think my radio was the new 1.54.00.10. I have two batteries and each one was killed in 6 to 8 hours.
I first downgraded the radio to 1.51.00.10 and it seemed a little bit better, but upon upgrading to 1.54.70.00, it seemed to have gone away. My OS is Pandora's 7.1 w/ 3.62.
With 1.51.00.10, I was able to get over a day's worth of life on one charge in 3G/H mode. It seems this 1.54.70.00 is giving me more life, but I'm still testing.
Maybe give this a try, upgrading to 1.54.70.00 and a 3.62 os. No problems for me so far and it seems like it's a keeper!
Hope this helps!
Quakie
Soft reset when it starts getting warm, soft reset after charging if it is warm when on the charger.
My 8525 used to have this problem, but it went away on its own. However, soft resets when the device felt warm did solve the problem when it was occurring. Note that my phone is no longer warm while charging, either.
A lot of people try various radio upgrades/downgrades and ROM changes to fix this, but I think that's on the wrong track as I've never seen anyone report that doing these things made any difference. However, if you're not using WM6, I recommend at least making that change.
Other than that, hit the reset button if it starts to feel warm for no reason and after charging, and you should be fine.
My guess on this is that there is some kind of problem where the device thinks it is plugged in when it isn't, and then it over stresses the battery causing the heat and fast battery drain.
My experience
I am on Rogers in Canada, the same company that owns Fido, and I wonder if there is a problem with their network/ActiveSync/3G/units compatibility.
carrier: Rogers wireless (Canada)
device: branded HTC TyTN WM 5
ROM: 1.34.631.14
Radio: 1.42.00.00
Recently activated Push Email and connecting to exchange server via Activesync. Push requires an "always-on" data connection. It seemed to have been working fine for about 2 days, then suddenly my unit started to heat up significantly, (luckily no screen warp), and my battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 5 hours (if I was lucky). Unsatisifed with Rogers suggestion that replacing the unit with a refurbished unit was the way to go... I continued my research and experimentation and 48 hours later here is whatI came upwith so far:
1) Hard Reset - did not help the situation
2) Soft Reset when heating up - did not help the situation
3) Most frequently associated activity - ActiveSync on with 3G Data Connecton enabled and server directed to exchange server... no difference depending on how often I had the mobile device ping the exchange server. The heat and battery drain occurred while the TyTN was in hibernation (dead unit in the AM when I awoke).
4) Battery drain modifiers - worsens with worsening heat, worsens and acclerates if you remain in an area of low signal (less than 2 bars showing)
Best solution(s)/explanation(s) to date:
1) 3G is a battery killer - it uses a lower intenisty signal, and it generally draws heavier on the battery and hardware when using the network
2) In Phone settings, switching your Band to GSM (2G) fixes the device into one band (does not allow automatic switching and constant detection of best signal). Unless you are a real Power User and rely heavily on every ounce of speed that can be squeezed out of 3G there is no noticeable difference.
3) I have switched off the "receive allincoming beams" for the Ir interface to conserve every mV of power in my battery.
4) Since the switch (a few hours now) I have had no heat issues and the voltage has remained stable with ActiveSync on and mild websurfing to download a couple of CABs... granted it is minimal usage as it is 2:30AM but I think this may be the trick (on Rogers with a TyTN anyways)
I'll keep an eye on this and do some more analysis on the battery... Any input readily welcomed...
M
sounds like you simply need to buy a new battery.
It's not a tumoh!
Doesn't seem to be battery...
I recently tweaked reg with some battery hacks, locked it into 2G and all has been well. Holding a charge with the data connection engaged 24/7 - drops to about 65% charge over 24h, having to charge only every 2nd/3rd day...
M
I recently acquired an AT&T Tilt for myself and an 8525 (HERM100) for my wife. Since getting the 8525 there were issues with the battery being depleted quicker than one would generally expect - the battery going from 100% to 0% in less than 3 hours with most of the time spent in an idle state.
I figured it might be a software issue and decided to look for a ROM that is reasonably power efficient. Using the WM6.1 BENCHMARKS thread I decided on loading PDACornerPro V27 RBSN 3G. Additionally I disabled 3G connectivity as we don't have data plans for the devices and have no need to run the more power hungry radios. I also diabled all the device's data connections using Modaco NoData so nothing would be triggered inadvertanly. I also ran the Battlog utility to get a record of general power consumption; idling w/ the screen dimmed/off at about 30ma, while running application it would top out at about 170ma. I was satisfied with this improvement as with 'normal' usage the phone could easily last the majority of the day without needing a charge (which was the goal), so I gave the device back to my wife to use again. The device was left idle for the remainder of the night, by morning it was dead. I checked the battlog utility's log and found that shortly after leaving the device to idle for the night it's power consumption jumped up to around 470ma, depleting the battery very quickly.
I verified that 3G was still off and that there were no unnecessary processes or applicaitons running in the background. No matter what I did the power consumption remained around 360 - 470ma. I finally decided to give it a rest and I pulled the battery from the 8525 and left it alone for about an hour (gave me some time to relax from the fustration). When I returned I reinstalled the battery and powered up the device, I checked Comm Manager and found 3G on again; I turned it off and I checked the Battlog utility and found that the power usage levels returned to the aformentioned 30 - 170ma. The following day this happened again - same jump in to the 400+ma range and after having the battery out for ~20 minutes power usage returned to normal; the only difference this time was that 3G had not inadvertanly been reinabled.
Any ideas on what would trigger the dramitic increase in power usage (an how one might prevent it) and why letting the phone sit in a powerless state for ~20 minutes would correct it?
Recap of the device:
ATT 8525 (HERM100)
ROM: PDACornerPro V27 RBSN 3G
Radio: 1.54.07.00 (Stock)
SPL: Olipro 2.30
Battery: HERM160 (3.7VDC, 1300mAh) & HERM161 (3.7VDC, 1350mAh) *tested with both batteries, same results.
Thanks for any insight you can provide. Attached is a zip with Battlog's log file of the first occurence of this problem in text format as well as in an xls file.
Ideas from a non expert
Well, i did experience something similliar with a touch pro. Suddenly battery consumption increases like hell. I believe it happens, when changing cells of your provider. E.g. the device switches between GPRS and 3G back and force, because you are just in between. So, maybe this activates the SIM card - which would consume more power - I guess. I am not an expert for this. But I could observe sudden massive power drains when moving in a train or even in my flat, where one side is more GPRS and the other more 3G. You can watch e.g. by using http://www.commmgrpro.com/. There is a "save battery" mode. Ok. But this are just my non techie thoughts. Pls. post, if you got a solution.
Hey I have exactly the same problem as you do. I just recently bought this phone on ebay, and I charged it full and left it idle for 2 days. I come back and the battery is completely drained. Also, the 3g icon keeps showing up. All I hope for is that this isnt a hardware problem.
Same for me battery drains far too quick, maybe the batteries are slowly dieing, i have seen the other more powerful batteries what last a lot longer, i think my option is to ebay for a battery of twice the power. There is just so much going on with all the tech on the pda's i suppose these batteries just can't hack it. Like i say short life length on them.
Hi,
I have had this handset for around a month..
I have downloaded about 6 extra apps onto the handset..inc google maps, Microsoft Live applications, live player, and others.
However as the applications comes with plentry of extra memeory through the internal and extrnal surely it is meant for this.
However I have a problem with the battery life. The phone last for around 4 / 5 hours, and then dies !!!
I have ordered a replacement battery from orange, and maybe this will solve the problem.
I have not got the blue toothe on, and made sure the apps in use are shut down and not left open.
Can I have any comments from anyone that may have experienced this problem.
Thanks
Andrew
What apps did you download onto your device? I seem to recall reading something about AEBPlus and mapping the wireless function which drains the battery...perhaps others know of more instances with other apps that might help?
apps downloaded are
Google maps
Google mail via JAVA
Live search ie maps, directions, web, and weather
messenger
windows live
I downloaded other smaller apps, however i have now deleted them, or have tried ( but i'll have to post re this, this is another issue )
Andrew
is it connected to wifi or 3g constantly ?
if so that would suck the batt out
my x1 works for 2 days without charging
because i dont have a constant connection
of those 2 sorts running and only have bluetooth on
when i'm using it
1st thing: Check the activesync settings, if activesync is constantly on then you'll need the fake server fix, so that it won't automatically try to find a connection. Also, MoDaCo NoData is useful in this scenario as you can stop any data connection that you want.
2nd thing: Also check for anything else that may be running in the background. Special things to take notice are programs that may need to run all the time. Like a 3rd party alarm etc...
3rd thing: The charger may be screwed up. I had this with mine, and ended up using my Herald's old one. Try charging your mobile using USB (connected on a pc) and see what happens. If you miraculously get more battery life then it means your charger got borged.
Had similar issues, with the phone barely lasting half a day, and now i finish the day with 50% charge. (Activesync was very responsible for 25% of the battery).
Hope i've helped.
I would suggest a hard reset, don't install ANYTHING and see how long it lasts. You probably just need to see it for 5 or 6 hours. After an overnight charge, I'll not be around 97% after 5 or 6 hours. If it's still draining without anything else installed then it is either your charger or your battery.
Hi all,
Thanks you very much for your replies.
I deleted one of the programs, and stil no sign of extra bettery life.
Then i went with the hard reset, ( bit of pain to re apply my email accounts ) this seems to be having an effect, as this obviosly got rid of all my extra programs.
Once i find out the battery life, I will re apply the programs i had on it, to see which ones zapps the battery power.
I hope it is not google maps, i had a lot of favourites saves on it. !!! blast
Thanks
Andrew
Which ROM are you using?
I get 2 days with ease on Dutty's 2.3 X ROM .
Hi Pinx,
Well i'm very PC lit, no so with the HDC HD,
This is what i've read from the settings about -
CE OS 5.2.20764 (BUILD 20764.1.4.3)
Processsor MSM7201A-528Mhz
Memory 195.83 MB
Expansion slot - 8GB HDSC Card. ( come with orange )
Is the one better what you suggested. ???
is the processor my RAM listed above ?
I must seem so niave !
Testing with a batter logger, my HD typically draws around 275 - 300ma when switched on, but this can go up to 450ma if using extras like wi-fi, gps etc.
When in standby, it is drawing typically 35-50ma (but I can't measure this too accurately (because, er, the device is in standby!).
Charging through the usb cable to my laptop puts in 100ma, and through a mains charger a liitle more at around 150ma.
The battery is 1350ma - do the maths!! When constantly in use (eg when loading and testing the device), the battery is likely to last 2 - 4 hours. When in standby, it can easily last over 36 hours.
On a point of interest, I previously had loaded Davideuck's rom 6.5 v3, along with the 1.12 radio. I found the battery drained really quickly. When I changed to Davideuck rom V6 and 1.10 radio, the battey life improved greatly. Now, was this down to either the radio or the rom, or was it simply down to the fact that I spent a couple of days playing with the HD to test everything out??
Battery life and GPS - strange behaviour
I too have noted extremely fast and seamingly randomized rapid battery drainage.
However, I have found something strange. If I use a any type of program that uses the GPS, the phones battery is draining fast aterwards. And I have made sure that any program/process using the GPS is shut down.
If I after having used the GPS soft reset the phone, battery is not affected almost anything in standby. Without the soft reset, the phone gets warm and battery is discharged very quickly.
Anyone else noticed this behaviour?
It is almost as if the GPS receiver is still running (?) even though all programs are shut down. No processes running in the background remaining from Google Maps, Tomtom, Efficasoft GPS or IGO 8 etc which I have tested with.
BR/
Ampi
Yes I agree with the above post. After using google maps even though I closed it down fully and it does not appear in the active task list but the phone still gets hot and battery drains very very rapidly. If I do a soft reset then the battery returns back to normal and the phone is no longer heating up.
I get about 2.5 days with HSDPA on full time for push email and blue tooth on full time. Only a few calls a day.
If I put wi-fi on, then I have to charge by that evening. Wi-fi off and phone just lasts. Waaaay better than the TyTN 2 was. Happiness!
andrewmpalmer2003 said:
Hi all,
Thanks you very much for your replies.
I deleted one of the programs, and stil no sign of extra bettery life.
Then i went with the hard reset, ( bit of pain to re apply my email accounts ) this seems to be having an effect, as this obviosly got rid of all my extra programs.
Once i find out the battery life, I will re apply the programs i had on it, to see which ones zapps the battery power.
I hope it is not google maps, i had a lot of favourites saves on it. !!! blast
Thanks
Andrew
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Hi Andrew,
Touch HD has the longest battery life of any similar 'phone. See for example
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/137036,mobile-phone-battery-life-htc-vs-iphone-vs-the-rest.aspx.
Either your GPS is staying on after closing Google Maps (soft reset by holding down power button for 3 secs will solve this), or your battery is dud.
Hope this early experience doesn't put you off. After 4 smart phones, this is one of my favourites. You might try deleting Google Maps and replacing with TomTom 7.4. It's a much better program IMHO, and doesn't need to suck data off the net when travelling, but the maps are quite pricey...
Good luck.
Batti may be the problem?
For me Batti (Battery meter program) was the problem.
With this program installed I could hardly get 20% by the end of the working day with light usage.
But now after uninstalling Batti (and installing FInixNOver Battery Icons) I almost never get below 50% even with moderate to heavy usage!
So, my assumption is that Batti drains HD's battery by constantly polling it even when the device is off. At the same time FIxinNOver product only replaces standard icons without interfering into system's polling procedure.
I should also mention that my previous installing/uninstalling/hard-resetting "experiments" did not give any battery life improvement results.
ampi said:
I too have noted extremely fast and seamingly randomized rapid battery drainage.
However, I have found something strange. If I use a any type of program that uses the GPS, the phones battery is draining fast aterwards. And I have made sure that any program/process using the GPS is shut down.
If I after having used the GPS soft reset the phone, battery is not affected almost anything in standby. Without the soft reset, the phone gets warm and battery is discharged very quickly.
Anyone else noticed this behaviour?
It is almost as if the GPS receiver is still running (?) even though all programs are shut down. No processes running in the background remaining from Google Maps, Tomtom, Efficasoft GPS or IGO 8 etc which I have tested with.
BR/
Ampi
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If you notice fast battery drain after using software which uses GPS etc, try using No Data
Handy software which allows you to easily toggle off either Internet, WAP or MMS. When you need to use GPS you can easily switch it on again
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
+1
-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
Crash95 said:
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
27firesnake said:
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
creed said:
I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.
G'day everyone,
I'm wondering if anyone has experienced a similar issue to what I'm having on my x10i.
I use to unplug my device from the charger around 7am (100% - fully charged) and the battery dies around 7pm. The main usage of my device is for making a couple of short phone calls, sending/receiving tens of SMSs, regularly checking my facebook, twitter and email account. Not a heavy usage I think, around 85% of the time is put on standby. I was really unsatisfied because my other device "HTC hero" stays for over two days. A few facts about my HTC Hero: 1) It is way much older and nearly damaged, 2) I am using it mainly for family/personal really long calls (30-45mins per call) and 3) Always connected to my car's built in phone system (Bluetooth is up all the time).
Since I bought my device 2 months ago, I was in a continues contact with SE the Middle East regarding battery issues. Honestly, they were very informative and respond quicker than any other company I dealt with before. They replied to me with really useful tips that extended my batter life to stay alive till the mid night (extra 4-5 hrs). Tips given were: Brightness automatic adjustment, Disabling auto Wifi detection... etc. Though, I was still not quite satisfied.
One day I decided to do my own experiments to observe the real problem with my x10 battery. This was 3 days ago. The first thing I started with, and apparently the last, was disabling the 3G service. I turned off the 3G service, and turned on the 2G (Edge) instead. Believe it or not, the first day my device's battery status was about ~85% when I got back home from work, ~70% at the mid night, ~55 percent when I woke up the next day, ~25% when I got back home, and dies around 8pm (from 17hrs to 37hrs). It was a straight shock to me. I already know that enabling 3G would shorten the battery life for both the short and long term, but honestly I wasn't expecting this much of difference in the daily usage. The other thing, I didn't notice any huge difference between before and now. Internet surfing is a bit slower, couldn't notice the difference. Twitter, Facebook and email worked just the same since I check them whenever I got notified. The last thing is I'm using mobile messenger now, i.e. eBuddy, since the battery is giving me longer time, and all my messenger accounts are on all the time.
Please, if you are having the same issue, let me know because I was assuming that there's something wrong on my device, either on the battery itself or the build software (build # R2BA024)
Regards
The improvements you're seeing are probably due to you living in an area with poor 3G reception. The poorer the signal is, the harder the phone has to work to maintain the connection, thus, eating battery faster.
Although, it shouldn't be THAT big of a battery loss... I'd look at what programs you have installed and running and see if any of them are secretly eating battery behind your back.
You should try installing and running "Data on demand" It switches your data connection off when the phones screen is off...
Its well worth upgrading to 026, i saw a huge increase in battery life from that.
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The improvements you're seeing are probably due to you living in an area with poor 3G reception. The poorer the signal is, the harder the phone has to work to maintain the connection, thus, eating battery faster.
Although, it shouldn't be THAT big of a battery loss... I'd look at what programs you have installed and running and see if any of them are secretly eating battery behind your back.
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Absolutely correct. At home I can leave my X10 for days without it dying with 3G enabled. At work there are dead zones that'll suck a phone dry within an 8 hour shift though. It's almost always a coverage issue.
For any battery issue I suggest a factory reset and THEN make the appropriate adjustments. Sounds useless but sometimes you can emulate all the same settings and things still don't happen as anticipated.
Use a 3G toggle widget for long periods where you KNOW it won't be necessary. Root your X10 and add SetCPU to that bad boy. Screw using task killers because the Android OS is *nix based and handles memory just fine - I only kill tasks before putting my phone away when I know I won't use it for an hour or more. Other than that, don't use task killers, battery monitors or anything that'll keep your phone from sleeping. Use Spare Parts if you need help identifying an annoying program too.
Thanks all for the useful comments.
Now, I feel more confident that I can keep the battery alive for even more than 2 days. Thanks for your information and knowledge : )
[Q]: Is there any application that shows (in bars or digits) the strength of 3G signal?