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unable to restore data after ROM upgrade

I just upgraded to the latest ROM's supplied by O2 (3.17.03), and now active sync says my backup was made with the wrong version of software.
Is there any way to get the data back on to my XDA? In particular my contacts, as they will be the hardest to replace?
If not, is it possible to go back to the old ROM? (the radio ROM upgrade warned not to downgrade roms)

ActiveSync backup can be only restored to the same ROM. The best way to backup contacts is to use Outlook. Yes, you can flash your ROM back to the previous version, restore the contacts, backup them to Outlook, flash the new ROM then sync with Outlook to get the contacts list

there ma ybe another way
So i was about to download the old ROM updates from http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda/xda_ROM_Archive.htm
When i read the readme on that page. It says that active sync can only restore to a device with exactly the same partnership/device ID. It says you must delete the existing partnership and recreate it.
So i have done that, and a resotre is currently in progress (restoring a full backup from an old rom, to the new rom version of my walaby).
I will post back in 10 minutes when it has finished to let everyone know what has/hasnt been restored.

check for reginal settings.
In case it was changes to customize your device before upgrage - change them now from default.
it is not recommended to restore after ROM upgrade, tho...

restore not reccomended
I suppose i can understand why, but in any case i dont use outlook. So i cant see me having much choice...
Btw, does anyone know of software to sync the XDA to mozilla (preferable under linux too!)

backup to SD card
Out of curiosity, the pdf i read regarding the upgrade said you can back up to a SD card too.
Is this any different to backing up via ActiveSync? Is it any less risky to restore such a backup after an upgrade?

Up to my information, it has the same issue ... SD backup can't be restored to a different ROM version.

http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/
sync with
evolution

cynce
Looks good... anyone tried to sync with Mozilla Thunderbird??

Restore worked
So the restore seems to have worked... kind of...
The thing runs, but the old sms messages are only in the index, and i cant seem to delete them or view them.
The new programs from the upgrade dont seem to be here, though they could be lying around in a folder somwhere i havent looked.
My Fiitaly install works, though the input method occasinaly tries to be the transcriber even though it shouldnt be.
All in all, its usable, but when i have time i will be finding a copy of outlook just to back up the contacts and then flashing the ROM again and installing everything else again.
A note to anyone else who might be trying the same thing, all your notes etc can be backed up just by activesync synchronising your XDA mydocuments with a sub-folder of your pc's mydocuments. Then hopefully outlook can do the contacts and appointments. Dunno what you'd have to do if you wanted to save your sms messages or call log or anything

Results
Well, instead od studying for my exams (yup, just like me to do this) I installed Outlook, synchronised the XDA, flashed it again, synchronised it again, installed my software and it seems to be pretty good!
Lost my sms messages, but thats no problem to me.
2 things that are odd:
I had to add a shortcut to notes.exe in the start menu because it didnt exist
Also, i cannot create new accounts, ie gprs email ones. Of course, this would only be useful if the new ROM supports encrypted IMAP connections. Does it? Is there a free (or maybe cheap) third party solution that does?

How to make Sprite Backup 3 work with XDA2??

can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot

Only after I bought Sprite 3.0 I found out it doesn't work properly. In my case, V3.0 erased my SMS after a restore! Solution? According to Sprite SOftware, they working on it. In the meantime, this is what I did:
For the first Backup
- Make an executable (.exe) backup file and save it to Storage (permanent storage on your XDAII). It will be a slightly bigger file
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail option and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Prgogram Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup. You need to do the executable file only once
For daily backups, save them to a storage card.
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail opetion and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Program Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup.
To Restore
- Run the executable backup file first
- Then do a soft reset
- Run Sprite and restore form your last daily backup file
It anly sound akward, but it worked for me!
PS: You will loose your e-mail account settings and all its folders' contents. But I found that I could live with this. It's better than having to reinstall all software to your XDAII again!

..like walking on thin ice!
hey michael..thanks for the details.. but sprite backup seems to hate xda2..
is there a way to back up to pc with this workaround? can i use the same approach but pc as the destination?
any news when sprite will release the new version?
anyone knows of another backup sw that backs up xda2 to PC?
thanks
Hawk

I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
Are you sure you are not using ver. 2.X which did have the SMS restore problem?

I've tried with my xdaII , the sms inbox was restored OK, but I have some problem after the backup restored. I never received SMS anymore.
don't know why....
so I never used it again.

i'm using imate with rom 1.72 and sprite backup v3
Hey Brian
Can u please give details about yr device, e.g rom etc. and installed applications.. i never got to to work on the imate. please give some details on if u were able to backup to pc?
anybody know of any program that backs up imate to pc?
thanks
Hawk

On my MDA2 SpriteBackup crashes! (automatic backup timed at 23:55 everyday) Looks like some file is in use and Sprite is not able to backitup and the whole backup process is stopped. So on my MDA2 backup has NEVER finished!
I'm using backup in ActiveSync - I have it set to automatic mode - everytime I put my MDA2 into the cradle, it synchronizes with outlook and then does FULL BACKUP.
And I'm sure this kind of backup works well - I restored my MDA many times after hardreset from ActiveSync's backup and everything was always OK.

hawk -
Your second question first - Of course you know that ActiveSync can backup your PPC to your PC (Tools -> Backup/Restore). Also, Sprite Backup ver.3 can backup to your PC as well - it can install a tool in your system tray to run the Sprite Backup PC Service.
I had version 2.X of Sprite Backup and experienced the SMS service failing to receive messages after a restore. With ver. 3.0.0 I have actually restored my imate after an unintentional HR and SMS worked perfectly thereafter.
Now, for my configuration:
imate with ROM Ver. 1.72.00WWE
1GB SD card
VITO Voice Dialer
PHM Registry Editor
MS PocketStreets
m-possible Backgammon
HP Mobile Printing
Zendrui PocketZenPhone
Syntact GameBox
Sprite Software Sprite Backup
Sprite Software Space Detective
Sprite Software PocketMon
Spb Pocket Plus
Mobimate WorldMate Pro
MS Cubicle Chaos
Laridian Pocket Bible (with 10 Bible translations)
Laridian Daily Reader
Illium Software eWallet
Total Commander
Adobe Acrobat Reader 1.0
A.Khogo tAgenda
SSnap
IDiff
I also have the drivers for the Stowaway keyboard installed.
It's pretty well loaded!

hawk said:
can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot
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What version? I'm using spritet 3 v1517 without issue. Email and SMS restore correctly. The only conflict I've found is using GPRS monitor.

I had the same problem with the earlier versions of Sprite Backup too. After restoration, my XDA will have a complete blackout on SMSs. So i have decided not to install it again.
BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.

BRosenow said:
I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
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Likewise, I have no problems on my Xda II - mine does an automatic, self extracting backup every morning at 08:45 to my storage card. They always come back completely, sweet as...

sg_r1 wrote:
BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.
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Yes, it is Voice Dialer PE v3.0.

Sprite Backup
I'm using it with my XDA II and no problem. I restores everything as it was. Using Sprite Backup V3.0.0 build 1517.
I don't backup to my PC but to a SD card.
Regards,
Mark

whats the reason to backup to a pc using something like Sprite
over just using activesync's pc backup restore option ?
i understand the sd card backup but not why people use it on pc's

If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
Maybe that's the reason. I agree with you. It has no additional value.
Mark

I use Sprite to backup my imate to my laptop from time-to-time, just in case something were to happen to my SD backup (loose the SD card, backup files become corrupted, etc.). Considering the little time and storage space it takes, what's the harm in having a little insurance?
And I use the Sprite backup to PC because it takes about 2 min. for a full backup . . . can ActiveSync do that?

nah
with ms you get what you pay for since activesync is free is slow can be
a full backup prob take about 15->30min

i prefer to use the same program 1. to backup to sd card & pc for compatiblity reasons in order to exchange files if needed, 2. sprite does exe files 3. activesync may not restore to a newer rom properly.
the funny thing is some people are using sprite with no problem, others like me are just going thru hell to make it work.
on sprite's support they mention something about stopping some processes in windows\startup\
tried that too, didn't work.
can anyone diagnose the problem with the inconsistency of the results from one person to the other and definite solution?
Hawk

Maybe the ROM version that differs! Sprite Backup works for me fine. See my ROM version below with my signature.
My startup folder contains:
AFlashman, BTTrayCE, CFlashMan, CheckAutorun, ChgDFLnk, IA_Caller_ID, MMREG, NFlashMan, poutlook, stk, Symantec Antivirus, TFlashMan
Mark

Markutah wrote:
If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
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Well . . . you need to be VERY selective of which files you restore after a ROM upgrade anyway. You cannot do a full restore (from a full backup) after a ROM upgrade, because .exe and .dll files (and others) will be restored, replacing the newer versions. This leaves the device in a state that is somewhere between the two ROM versions and will cause all sorts of problems.
You should only restore documents, email and personal databases - not system data.

Backup all even contacts.

I dont know if this topic was posted before. I done searching but i founf nothing. Well if there is.sorry then . HAHA
How can i Backup a contact togather with files? Cuz i already backup my device and when my computer was formated and returned my backup the contact isn't in the backup. my contact was erased becouse the microsoft outlook was formated also.
Thanks
(I guess this topic will make another trouble like before)

not sure if it can be don with activesync backup
but maybe spirit backup or xbackup can do it
otherwise you can export contacts and such from outlook on the pc and save it somewhere on a disk or cd or something
or you can use permant save in settings on the xda

Will someone be kind enough to post 'SMSBackup_PPC.cab' file

Hi, will anyone please post 'SMSBackup_PPC.cab' from the Atom Exec ROM? I am looking for a software to backup my SMS and I don't want to use the Exec ROM when I have an Atom.
Thanks!

Here you are.
Enjoy.

does it work with Qtek 2020i also.
When i try to install it gives me an error
Can any dody help

Install OK, but unable to run
oainot said:
Here you are.
Enjoy.
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Hi, thanks!
It installs ok but when I run it, it gives me an error message 'You cannot run this program on this device'
I guess it's only meant for Atom Exec. I'm trying to run it on Atom.
Anyone have any idea how to backup SMS on WM5 devices? I used to use Jeyo Mobile Companion 1.1 on WM2003SE and it works very well but it is not compatible with WM5. Anyone have any other software? SPB backup & Sprite backup, does a 'full' SMS/email backup and they are not able to restore individual SMS. Looking for one that can backup automatically and can restore individual SMS, that would be great!
Thanks!

Re: Install OK, but unable to run
alvinlim28 said:
oainot said:
Here you are.
Enjoy.
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Hi, thanks!
It installs ok but when I run it, it gives me an error message 'You cannot run this program on this device'
I guess it's only meant for Atom Exec. I'm trying to run it on Atom.
Anyone have any idea how to backup SMS on WM5 devices? I used to use Jeyo Mobile Companion 1.1 on WM2003SE and it works very well but it is not compatible with WM5. Anyone have any other software? SPB backup & Sprite backup, does a 'full' SMS/email backup and they are not able to restore individual SMS. Looking for one that can backup automatically and can restore individual SMS, that would be great!
Thanks!
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Try Jeyo Mobile Extender for MS Outlook 2003. This is a PC program, that will be "embeded" into MS Outlook and will synchronize your SMSs like a mail folder in your MS Outlook through Activesync.

I use this program to backup and restore SMS... It was for Dopod 818 on WM2003, but works without problems on WM5 and Atom... You just have to create a folder called "Storage" or "Storage Card", then backup your sms there by choosing the path inside the program... Then you can move the .sms file that was created where you want to keep it safe, and copy it back into one of the two folders I wrote before when you want to restore your messages.

Yup, it's working
Drakknar said:
I use this program to backup and restore SMS... It was for Dopod 818 on WM2003, but works without problems on WM5 and Atom... You just have to create a folder called "Storage" or "Storage Card", then backup your sms there by choosing the path inside the program... Then you can move the .sms file that was created where you want to keep it safe, and copy it back into one of the two folders I wrote before when you want to restore your messages.
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Thanks! Yes it's working fine, I can backup and restore all my SMS on WM5 devices as well ;-)

but guys, u c.. jeyo sms backup from atom exec is much betta than all of these coz, it allows to backup even wen u have folders created.. no progy hav been able to do this, i've checked lots.. can somebody pls find a way to run it on the atom??

Jeyo Mobile Extender 2.0 for Outlook
Dear Appu
Jeyo Mobile extender is an ad on to Microsoft Outlook and it syncs the SMS folder into the outlook. So even if you have a hard reset it will be in the outlook for u to sync back the SMS folder into your ppc. Works for WM05 and i'm using an Atom. , only thing missing is MMS to be backed up. :evil:
check it out. psst this is a secret almost everyone know.. :twisted: the crack is also available theheheeheh. :twisted:
check this out for more info on jeyo http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp
cheers

nope sultan.. it doesnt bak up folders i've created.. folders which can be created wen i want under the inbox folder... only jeyo sms backup which comes with the atom exec rom has been able to do it for me yet.. but it doesnt work on the regular atom rom.. and cant even use the exec rom coz of its grafics driver somehow gettin reseted with drain of battery or, removing the battery.. :?

Nice program. Got all my incoming messages fine, but all sent items are blank?
It's also mostly in a language I don't have fonts for I think! Lots of squares on the screen! Still, simple to use - menu is in English (Lucky for me! )
Thanks for posting it!

Hey, can I view the messages on PC when I back them up? How do I make sure I have ALL the messages backed up?

I just lost all my contacts with NO backup by deleting a parternership. HELP

How do i get them back... they are not in outlook... are they somewhere on the phone still... can i get them back? i haven't reseted...
it's not really my phone but i'm the one who did it...

found a pim.vol on the device... it has 420 kb... it's quite big? any clue?

samov said:
How do i get them back... they are not in outlook... are they somewhere on the phone still... can i get them back? i haven't reseted...
it's not really my phone but i'm the one who did it...
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A little more info could be helpful... I've had simaler problems...
~What are you syncing with? Activesync, SyncML or ?
~What are you syncing to? Exchange, Outlook via USB or ?
~Are you Syncing OTA?
~What OS? WM5 or WM6?
~Are there copies of the Contacts on a PC that you sync with?
PS: Knowing this info will really help to resolve your problem

ok.... sorry about the lacking info...
1. Outlook was not installed... so no transfer to my pc.
2. Using Activesync and i deleted the partenership.
3. I'm on wm6.
4. No copies anywhere... only copy was in the phone.
Found a thread which mentioned "pim.vol" file (420 kb)... i managed to extract it from the phone... but i don't know what to do with it...

There's a program called PIM backup, which is used for backing up all the things on your phone like contacts, messages, calender entries etc.
The default is to create a *.pib though...
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
I've got mine scheduled to backup everything on a weekly basis to my storage card, so if it all goes belly up I have something to restore from. I suggest you do the same ;-)