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Xperia X2 Video Unboxing

it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to

gundamboy said:
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
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this is a good vid, shows all the leads etc that we will get and the unit itself which looks good.
hopefully in the next day or 2 they will upload the guy running through the software so we can see what software they included and how much they have improved it from the announcement model (if they have sorted the lag and changed or improved anything).

yeah, I'd like to see how it runs and how well it goes through the panels.
I'm considering purchasing one, just not right away...
(waiting for a price drop similar to the Xperia X1's)

double posted, my bad.

Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-lovingly-unboxed-on-video/
TAKE THAT KILLERSKINCANOE!!!11ONE!!1
lolz .

lol, awesome orelsi!
was wondering when you'd show up

FOCK! i knew it was a bad time to go for some smokes! lolz
good find my friend. although i'm pretty sure i watched it b4 i left. just forgot to post it... oh the thc in my blood is ****in with my memory.. oh well.. thats y i like it

it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.

gundamboy said:
it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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Me too!
Great device.....

Just got my X1 few weeks ago and now change of heart already.

the only really big problem right now is the price...
my wallet doesn't hold that much money

u need a George Costanza wallet !!
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lolz

Here is what mine looks like:

damn, I DO need a big one.

gundamboy said:
damn, I DO need a big one.
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That's what she said!
P.S. Sorry, I wasn't able to stop myself .

oh damn how did i miss this! nice! lol

Sigh... after watching the video, somehow just adds to the feeling that it really ain't much of a big improvement over the X1. But well, will still get it. And hopefully, it'll be out before the 1 year warranty of my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing. Gotta get my keyboard issue resolved, now that I realized it ain't to do with me using a custom ROM.

If you want it to feel like a "big thing" just simply think of it as a standalone phone from the Xperia series, not as a successor to the X1.
After you establish that fact, it's just a new phone in the lineup.

I hope they won't put those pathetic earphones in the final set.
I would like to LAUGH one more time about their decision to use micro usb when all the companies in the undustry have agreed to use mini usb.

Midway through the video, just after he puts in the battery (which looks to be a standard X1 BST-41 ) - he hits a switch on the side. I was originally going to ask if that might be a Hold switch like the ASUS phones have - but I realize now its actually just a battery case lock - oh well.
Can't say I like the reduction of the buttons, makes for less customization, the micro-usb means I need to get mini-micro adapters (90% of all usb non-USB-A devices I've owned since 2002 have had Mini-USB plugs). Flat screen is nice though, being a little bigger can't hurt. Nice camera, but lower frame-rate on VGA recording like the X1a now for all editions? Mostly same specs though and no idea what software it will break... makes me with hold judgment on whether I'd ever buy it though. That and the fact I have a brand new X1 to play with in my hand right now .
Peter
P.S. Just saw your reply above me orelsi, I wish Mini-USB were the standard but I keep reading that it's now micro-usb - I'd be happy if you can prove me wrong on this Ref: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341261,00.asp

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world...

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world, no mather the price or release date!! Which phone would it be??
For me- Im currently looking at Toshiba TG03 or Toshiba K02 or NOKIA N900 !!!
And Im looking at selling my Touch HD for about 400-440 dollars , is that a good price, or should I ask more(phone is in good condition, screen has always had a screen protector, has a dent in uper right corner of phone(fell from a meter high), and VOL UP button doesnt work properly(plastic falling of)), a custom rom installed from xda-devs much faster than original!

i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?

I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made

ibsa03 said:
i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?
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I was also looking at a Leo - but dont you think that Winmo deserves something more powerfull?? and Im getting really bored of Windows mobile as OS!!! I want to have in my pocket a Multimedia Player with Wifi, Calling and SMS capabilitirs!!
Fallen Spartan said:
I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made
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I agree on that no xda support for both Toshibas, But Nokia just aint that full of bugs, and they give out firmware updates which fix problems! + n900 is running Maemo 5 (something interesting ) !!! by the way -- is it true that N900 can only be used with both hands?? (no portrait mode)

Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.

Sasimi said:
Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.
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Nice Idea!!
currently Im thinking to sell my HD for about 400-500USD and buy a Nokia E63 (about 260USD)

Hands down, I would go for one of these......no question, no competition!
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I'm looking at a "Leo" at the moment as my HD has a few problems..., though there seems to be a few issues with it at the moment, alot just seem to be firmware related and could be fixed with an official update from HTC, though there seems to be problems with the camera...??, hmm.... not sure, for me the wvga screen format is where it should be at !!, and that processor seems like it's more than capable, as well as a decent amount of RAM, there just needs to be more developers get behind WM, to combat the Iphone....., It's more about net surfing organizers calenders/ alarms.....etc for me, but it would be nice to have some sweet looking games similar to the Iphones, other than that I'm going to have to say the Iphone 3GS, only because of the OS, the phone is clearly not as good as some of HTC's finest...eg. HD2 (LEO), but the wealth of applications available is staggering, but...., no true multitasking..., still no decent camera, and I'm hearing people complain about call quality...?, and having to sync everything back to Itunes is going to **** me off !! ??.....I'm traditionally a PC guy, but am buying a Macbook pro early 2010 some time, specifically for using a music program "Logic", so I'm going to have to get used to the whole Itunes thing, and I spose it may sync a lil better, (though I've seen software available that will sync a WM device with apples OS with ease), So......, I spose if everything is rocksolid with the LEO, then the LEO.....Hmmm, other than that....IPhone 3GS, I can see people getting all worked up at the mere suggestion of an Iphone, but as far as the OS goes I think it's alot smoother, and they seem more established, lets hope the next cple of years see microsoft get right in there as well !!

For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.

Moandal said:
For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.
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yes, still so many of my favorite programs require stylus, sometimes I just prefer to use it !!

I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...

Bodisson said:
I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...
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You mean you dont like capacitive screen (leo has capacitive) all other HTC WM phones have resistive
I sold My HD yesterday at midnight for about 500USD (converted from LVL) Hd is still with me, cause I will install it n stuff n give it away at weekend!

well i just got my HD..and i love it (and it costs me much of my precious time )
maybe i would trade it for a Motorola Milestone (Droid)..i hope it didn't hear that ^^

HTC how about this one! : The HTC HD2 Pro

HTC think about it, we don't mind a bit thicker when we can get this technology build in!
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Oh yeah, and winmobile 7 please...
(this is not a real phone, it's the HD2 made bigger, not larger but fatter, with photoshop, to highlight the possibility to attach a PicoP (now available as PEK for business tryouts) and the extra room for battery capacity -> for running the PEK)

paultje_007 said:
HTC think about it, we don't mind a bit thicker when we can get this technology build in!
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Speak for yourself, I wouldn't want it any bigger.

paultje_007 said:
HTC think about it, we don't mind a bit thicker when we can get this technology build in!
Oh yeah, and winmobile 7 please...
(this is not a real phone, it's the HD2 made bigger, not larger but fatter, with photoshop, to highlight the possibility to attach a PicoP (now available as PEK for business tryouts) and the extra room for battery capacity -> for running the PEK)
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Given how much effort HTC put into making the HD2 as thin as possible (low capacity battery, no front-facing camera, etc.) they clearly think you are the only person in the world who doesn't mind it being thicker and heavier. I doubt you will change their minds.

Yeah nor me!
If i wanted a fat phone I would of bought the N900! lol

Come on, it wouldn;t be that much bigger....
Maybe 3mm????
If they are going to bring out a Pro version, with maybe a keypad, than I'd rather have a picop than a keypad.
Having a touch pro at the moment, I dont mind this thickness.
With a screen that big, and a slightly bigger version like mentioned above, I reckon it wouldn't change that much in pocket space than I now experience with my Touch pro.
And if I had one, I wouldn;t do anything else in my pocket to prevent scratching!
HTC Rules!!!

And i'm not really sure if WinMo7 would be real advantage - Microsoft is definitely going wrong way.
I don't want another beautiful system with limitations on every step. If i ever be stupid enough to pay to be controlled - i'll buy iPoo.
Nokia knows what is going on - N900 has no locks, no limits - system is open and your phone is all yours!
I don't want stupid app store with millions apps and 99.99% of apps in store is complete crap.
All WinMo need is some improvement - full touch-ready UI, better WLAN management etc. And that's all

smartphone.net.pl said:
And i'm not really sure if WinMo7 would be real advantage - Microsoft is definitely going wrong way.
I don't want another beautiful system with limitations on every step. If i ever be stupid enough to pay to be controlled - i'll buy iPoo.
Nokia knows what is going on - N900 has no locks, no limits - system is open and your phone is all yours!
I don't want stupid app store with millions apps and 99.99% of apps in store is complete crap.
All WinMo need is some improvement - full touch-ready UI, better WLAN management etc. And that's all
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I don't mind N810. But N900 is a brick with a smaller screen and Nokia always chooses the hardware spec just kind of enough to things it's suppose to do. I think Maemo is pretty much a beta ware in the smartphone arena. No thanks and I'm definitely not buying another crappy Nokia for the time being.

It's not about buying Nokia or not. It's about device - is it yours when you buy it or not.
Even HTC is not fully yours. You have to fiddle with SPL or gold card to change language or system version. It's wrong. I like N900 idea - system is fully open and it's yours. Phone is coming with root credentials and you can do anything you want - if you want.
At the other end is iPoo or Palm Pre - you have no control what phone is doing, manufacturer can wipe software you bought or wipe whole phone. This is good only for idiots, too stupid to know what to do with such device.
I'll be more than happy to see Nokia approach in HTC phone. I know it's not easy, because Windows is not open system. But i don't think it's the reason - on your PC all you need to do is buy licence. You can install different language as long it's same version. If you want, you can wipe HDD and install Linux. I want the same on my phone.

smartphone.net.pl said:
At the other end is iPoo or Palm Pre - you have no control what phone is doing, manufacturer can wipe software you bought or wipe whole phone. This is good only for idiots, too stupid to know what to do with such device.
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Dude, that statement is just wrong.
Chillax.
Some people couldn't give a **** about registry tweaks, modding, hacking etc etc.. but it doesn't make them idiots!
They have as much "control" as they need. Nobody is wiping their phone and they are not stupid just by being an end user!
It works for them (a good few million of them!), they are happy, leave 'em alone.

smartphone.net.pl said:
If you want, you can wipe HDD and install Linux. I want the same on my phone.
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Yeah I was thinking about this the other day. When will the first OS-free device come out for consumers? You can choose your OS yourself just like a PC... Just buy the hardware that suits you the best and install whatever software you like the best... That sounds very sane to me!

paultje_007 said:
HTC think about it, we don't mind a bit thicker when we can get this technology build in!
Oh yeah, and winmobile 7 please...
(this is not a real phone, it's the HD2 made bigger, not larger but fatter, with photoshop, to highlight the possibility to attach a PicoP (now available as PEK for business tryouts) and the extra room for battery capacity -> for running the PEK)
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and what's it called? HTC Brick?

Thats disgusting.

I applaud your thinking, this is a great image and hopefully continues to inspire discussion on this forum

Eh... just buy the extended battery which is coming out with the enlarged backcover. If there would be some HD2 Pro it would be a phone with a keyboard making it too thick for me. The thinness of the phone is what makes it bearable (in my pocket) so I'm happy with the way it is.
The extended battery IS an option though, will have to see what it looks like with that one on.

Microsoft Kin

so these are the two new phones from Microsoft.
KIN ONE:
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KIN TWO:
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Kin
Neowin
Engadget
Google ​
What are your thoughts?
Has this remotely something to do with the WP7 core?
Can it be ported to other devices?
These phones are clearly intended for the "social generation"; success / fail?

well i actually like it. it just shows how awesome windows phone 7's full blown version will be. isnt it ironic that most of the KIN website is done is flash.... lol silverlight WHAT?!
also i like that we wont have to worry about LAG from now on lol...

Looks really good....nice as drinking a can of 7up !
Videos below !
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15292
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15296
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15297

i quite like the kin2, but the kin1 looks like a tamagochi to me and a 5mpx camera with such small screen? dunno :S

Don´t like any of them
They should made something spectacular instead of this...
But MS will never loose....

nanoware said:
well i actually like it. it just shows how awesome windows phone 7's full blown version will be. isnt it ironic that most of the KIN website is done is flash.... lol silverlight WHAT?!
also i like that we wont have to worry about LAG from now on lol...
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lol, A wink to iPad/iPhone/iTouch maybe??
But yeah, strange indeed.
My impression regarding KIN
The buttons of the KIN2 could be somewhat bigger, maybe have some other look to it, They look like shiny, cheap plastic buttons out of toys..
But then again, these are mock ups, maybe they look and feel great IRL (doubtfull, but no way to tell at this moment).
The Kin1 looks like a girls-phone, there the design works, and the buttons actually look better.
The bottom piece is bigger than to top piece, I wonder how that will work out.
But the resolution of both screens are low:
KIN1 320x240 (QVGA!!)
KIN2 480x320 (HVGA)
And Kin2 is supposed to be for video watching?
Come on, please enter the year 2010, I am not asking 1080i on a mobile, but VGA/WVGA is totally feasable..
EqX

What the hell does kin mean? Why did my apartment cut off my cable? Why is my mom orderin cable from at&t? Why am i mad? Why am i writing in all caps? Why do i prefer kin 2!?

I think it's a good first attempt at cutting into the Android/Palm market. I know plenty of chicks that would be into this stuff.

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I think it's a good first attempt at cutting into the Android/Palm market. I know plenty of chicks that would be into this stuff.
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I don't. 10+

So these are original, running wp7 core, purpose designed, well built, purpose packed, zune pass over the air, updates over the air... retailed with Verizon which the kids like...
I think MS got a winner, it will sell well, the UI is gorgeous.

If this gets the backing of XDA this could be amazing.
The lack of 3rd party apps is a slight worry though.

I wasnt expecting anything good with these phones after all they are made by "SHARP" and SHARP suck d**K in technology products. For those that own a product sorry...what ever you say it sucks and I am not interested in your comment.
Bare in mind that these 2 phones cover the section of crappy (low tech) handsets in the market.....like from Nokia, SonyErric, LG etc.
If you actually compare the CRAPPY handsets out there and chuck these 2 in with them these phones actually PWN them all !
SO well done introducing something new and PWN'ing the crappy handset market.....NEXT !!

vardig said:
I wasnt expecting anything good with these phones after all they are made by "SHARP" and SHARP suck d**K in technology products. For those that own a product sorry...what ever you say it sucks and I am not interested in your comment.
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You clearly haven't seen some of there Japanese phones, there actually quite good.

They look 'kin awful.

I think the KIN ONE looks cute we will have to wait to see what they really like?

This Kin stuff, aren't Microsoft like wasting resources on another seperate os?

This is kind of neat. You could argue it's not really a smartphone, but I like it. It's a brilliant piece of minimalism - it's all the essentials done well and nothing else. The big question for me would be the browser. If the browser's great then I can really live without most apps, if not I can imagine it feeling restrictive after a while.
To the gentleman above, I don't really think that MS is wasting resources here. They're probably reusing a lot of the same code, and just tweaking the UI for a different effect. But what an effect! I really don't think there's anything else like this one the market.

Neither appeal to me...you would have thought MS could have done way better than those relics!

Do we even know what screen size each device has? I will say I am kind of envious of the fact that the Kin 2 has what could be a nice 8mp camera with flash.

Honest to god those might just be the two most hideous phones I've ever seen.

OS4 on Magic

looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html

tgm04 said:
looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html
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Cant view due to lack of flash, but if its what think it is, NOOOOO!!!!!!
Sent from my MyTouch 1.2 using the XDA app

ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.

foobar83 said:
ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.
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Don't see how it could simply be a housing, because the camera lens on the Magic is in the center, and in the iPhone its on the left corner, i seriously think it's legit. I mean, Android itself was ported to the iPhone, so why not iOS to android?

would there be any other link to view this video?
i can't seem to see it,keeps giving me some error that i do not understand
i get the error nomatter what browser i use

Well, it's going to be fake...
I live in the UK, when I tried to play the video I got a message that it was blocked in this region, using a US based VPN solved the issue though.
I'll get the video mirrored shortly.

Mirror here, play with VLC.
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I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...

Kudos for getting the iOS4 working with anything but proprietary apple hardware, but isn't this like replacing your high-tech, highly-customizeable batmobile with something much worse?

It's interesting that the wallpaper slides along with the icons like it does on Android, I didn't think that was possible on iPhone OS. I can only assume it's just an application mimicking iPhone OS (notice how the home button is bound to the back button).

AdrianK said:
Mirror here, play with VLC.
I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...
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thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen

css626 said:
thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen
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It doesn't. I have an iPod touch with iOS4. Of course, mine has the nexus lines live wallpaper. XD
This is really cool, and I doubt its fake. It has to be very possible to port it, just who would really want to? You get nothing more than a few bragging rights because I doubt many people want iOS4 over Android 1.6 2.1 or 2.2. The ONLY thing iOS4 has which is probably more hardware related is crisp graphics. Games look AMAZING on iPhones and iPods but pretty bad on Android devices.

www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS

szb314 said:
www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS
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wheres download link? and its weird language so please post link?

It seems you have to be a member of that forum to get the link/file

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hiapk.com%2Fbbs%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D419885
Well there's an attachment but you need to register, I can't get past the CAPTCHA :-(
EDIT: My bad, didn't see the link above. Meh.

Now I'm no programmer, but I know a couple, and I think one prerequisite to port anything from one platform to another is the source code?
Now who, other than a highly trained special ops team, is going to be able to get that out of Apple?
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...

Well, the attachments are just screenshots from the video. And Google Translate says the other users are waiting for a release too.

R3dF1v3 said:
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...
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It could also be a skin - I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, actually! Anyway, looks great, I wouldn't mind trying it out.

v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5MzQ0OTQw.html
19/08/2010 phone works it's true

Right. Showing videos without a real product is the way to do it. Great.