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October 6th:
Im working on the website now for us. I'll be changing this thread from "gauging interest" to the "development thread" for users of the portal to post comments and such on this thread.
a good idea my friend, but a question:
A webpage containing info for herald users, or a kind of startportal with links?
If so, that is a good idea, because there is portals, like htc's one, but it sucks big time, there is never any new stuff there, and the links provided is not so good.
I have done alot of webdesign myself, but im a better graphics designer then a coder so if you need help, just say so
Great idea, am also a web page designer and would be glad to update the page with new links as they found.
A few basics to start with would be good such as:
blogs in mobile version (engadgetmobile,gizmodo,msmobiles,modaco...)
not sure if its possible but some sort of e-mail client would be nice such as google has done with their homepage.
ofcourse you can't forget to add your fav vidz for the week or month (or atleast what you would type to search cuz everyone uses their own means for viewing videos)
of course everyone would love to see some apps on there (i'm guessing if this became widespread you could only add freeware)
the main one would be a link to the herald forum here on xda dev (im sure i ain't the only who would use this)
Thats all I can think of now, keep us updated and I'll b glad to help with anything that I can.
Great idea btw
cheers
Yes, more of a portal idea.
I'll get to work on it tonight!
Please share links you believe would be of value to have in this portal.
Suggestions anyone?
neptune said:
Great idea, am also a web page designer and would be glad to update the page with new links as they found.
A few basics to start with would be good such as:
blogs in mobile version (engadgetmobile,gizmodo,msmobiles,modaco...)
not sure if its possible but some sort of e-mail client would be nice such as google has done with their homepage.
ofcourse you can't forget to add your fav vidz for the week or month (or atleast what you would type to search cuz everyone uses their own means for viewing videos)
of course everyone would love to see some apps on there (i'm guessing if this became widespread you could only add freeware)
the main one would be a link to the herald forum here on xda dev (im sure i ain't the only who would use this)
Thats all I can think of now, keep us updated and I'll b glad to help with anything that I can.
Great idea btw
cheers
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I second those ideas! Joystiq.com blog would be awesome.
I can offer you webspace so you don't have to use your school's server. I can also register a domain. Let me know if you need anything. Send me a PM and we can discuss things. Good idea you have there.
id like to built a small, only herald based forum. if you got a webspace with php imma do my best to get a fresh designed mobile device board
xsillence said:
I can offer you webspace so you don't have to use your school's server. I can also register a domain. Let me know if you need anything. Send me a PM and we can discuss things. Good idea you have there.
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Sounds good man!!!
Can you rigester .com's?
In this event, I'd like to leave suggestions open for website ideas..
www.HTCPortal.com?
Whats nice is, this could be used by ALL browsers of XDA, not just us Herald guys.
Tha1nonly,
If you would like to design a forum that will run in 320x240 that we can post messages from our device, that would be AWESOME! Let me know what you plan on doing with that, and I'll be sure to include the link in my portal.
Yes, of course. Send me a PM
Ok... I know I'm not one of the elite here, but I've been a PPC Admin creating custom ROMs with kitchens for a number of devices for the last 4-5 years. I love this site and everyone here has done an excellent job developing for our devices, but its time we organize this site to make it easy for noobs to get involved in our world. The big problem I see when I try to help people get into WinMo is that its really hard for them to find the right apps and previews of what is possible to do. The biggest complaint I have from friends who use this site is that there are often different threads for the same app and often they download the older version by mistake. I also see what happens to developers like A_C who have their apps ripped off and sold as a "bundle of freeware apps". Its wrong and I'd hate to see him or any of the other developers not get credit for their hard work.
So here is what I'm proposing... Why don't we create an app store right here where free and for pay apps can conveniently and easily be searched and organized. We could even setup rss feeds for the different applications so people could be notified when a new version or even a update to the thread has occurred. I know Microsoft is coming out with their app store, but come on. when have they gotten anything right for a community at this level of capability right at the start?
Either way.. I think it would be a great idea for us to build this and expand the Win Mo community. Thanks everyone for your hard work.
Feel free to comment.
Using RSS from a new sub-forum that XDA could setup would allow a dev to pull the threads and information. If they're formatted properly before submitted to the App Store forum, the first post in the thread could be App's description and preview including any youtube previews. The second post would have the cab file.
There would also be a string of text in the first post which would define device compatibilities so Raphael users don't try and download Kaiser specific software and vice-versa
A pre-approval process would take place in a seperate forum and PPC veterans and forum senior members could assist in evaluating the posts as well as the software?
I see a more community based solution in this idea. Very nice. BUT.. will it happen? I'm no longer in the programming side of the biz, but if someone could come up with an app that would take the RSS from a forum, I could setup a test forum on a site I run just for proof of concept. Anyone interested?
Sounds like a great idea! I think a forum isnt the best solution for the matter but at least there would be some kind of order...
(App2Date support for more programs would be helpful then as well)
I only say forum because this database is already in place, easily tweaked (I run a few vBulletin sites so I know how easy it can be) and the authors can update their applications easily without having to reinvent the wheel from the ground up. With the proper required fields we could easily organize everything nicely
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488610
okay that sounds better.. im not experimenting with forums much
is is possible to filter things then? i cant really picture it
when i look for an app i always download all available of a kind (e.g. 5 minesweeper) and in the end not even 1 works ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480476
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436127
why not have 3 more...
i think before u can update ur apps u first need 2 download them... and in order to do that u need to find them first and thats what this thread is mainly about
have u ever heard about apple app store? its not about selling devices whatsoever but to FIND SOFTWARE (easily)
Yep, there are a few being built already, but maybe a more "Official" one would get more development and community support?
Here's another one too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471576
I'd really like to see one of these Appstore ideas to also track UI customizations. I can't tell you the number of hours I've spent reading through hundreds of posts to find the perfect SPB Mobile Shell UI... lol.
I have tried all of the above mentioned 'portals' and I use DeviceUpdate, but it's the same 97 or 98 apps! This would be a direct tie-in to this site. Developers could submit their apps to the community for approval and they'd be moved into the proper section of the app 'vault' and would instantly be available in the Mobile Application which would generate its list via a direct RSS of the App Vault forum..
Why create a new database and userbase when XDA's is already so huge?
I second, third and forth this request. XDA dev's deserve a store for app releases and use the forum as a dev/feedback forum.. Vbulletin can only do so much... If revenue sharing is the major hurdle I would hope the webmaster can work out an agreement with the devs who want to submit apps. Another hurdle could potentially be copyright infringements.. Unofficial ROM's and other promoted/sold "clone-apps" could bring unwanted publicity to the site. This simple chaotic forum might be the perfect element to keep XDA under the corporate radar and safe from hungry lawyers.
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I second, third and forth this request. XDA dev's deserve a store for app releases and use the forum as a dev/feedback forum.. Vbulletin can only do so much... If revenue sharing is the major hurdle I would hope the webmaster can work out an agreement with the devs who want to submit apps. Another hurdle could potentially be copyright infringements.. Unofficial ROM's and other promoted/sold "clone-apps" could bring unwanted publicity to the site. This simple chaotic forum might be the perfect element to keep XDA under the corporate radar and safe from hungry lawyers.
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I disagree that 'vbulletin can only do so much'.. XDA-Developers.com even uses a basic 'stock' theme.. this site isn't customized very much and is a very basic implementation of the software. An app on the phones that pull the information from a sub forum of this site could load up previews, videos and the download links. If you want to add in 'dontation' links, that's also possible, but I think that's better left to PCs.
I agree that staying 'under the radar' is essential, but being able to access all of the software that can greatly improve your device from anywhere at a moments notice is key... I'm currently browsing to a forum on my phone to get a piece of software and it's taking at least 3 minutes to do it when I can get there in less than 10 seconds on the PC.. put this stuff in an app and I won't even need the PC other than to find the dev and discussion threads....
I see vBulletin in a different light from just a chat enabler.. but it might be because I know the back end so well.
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I disagree that 'vbulletin can only do so much'.. XDA-Developers.com even uses a basic 'stock' theme.. this site isn't customized very much and is a very basic implementation of the software. An app on the phones that pull the information from a sub forum of this site could load up previews, videos and the download links. If you want to add in 'dontation' links, that's also possible, but I think that's better left to PCs.
I agree that staying 'under the radar' is essential, but being able to access all of the software that can greatly improve your device from anywhere at a moments notice is key... I'm currently browsing to a forum on my phone to get a piece of software and it's taking at least 3 minutes to do it when I can get there in less than 10 seconds on the PC.. put this stuff in an app and I won't even need the PC other than to find the dev and discussion threads....
I see vBulletin in a different light from just a chat enabler.. but it might be because I know the back end so well.
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All valid points, but if the webmaster has no desire to expand this sites complexity, who are we to say add this n that when we are typing on a yellow/brown forum with minimal VB enhancements (no knock to XDA ).
What I see working is XDA allow a spin-off site which is the visual/functional app paradise we all crave.. The alter ego of Cydia and the evil empire. All discussion/dev related questions feed to their respective XDA threads. XDA mods can then port the data to XDA-apps when they feel the release is deemed safe. Developers who want more press/ad exposure pony up $$, and can then charge for more fully functioning software... I dont think anyone doesn't want an app store, its will you get official XDA muscle behind it?
There's a way to charge for threads, so if people want to sell the apps, they need to buy a premium spot for it on the XDA App listing.. *boom!* XDA is interested!
If a spin-off site is required, then that's cool, I'd be really interested in assisting with it. It would be possible to use the same user database.
Thanks everyone for opening feedback on this topic. I think we should look further into finding a way to make this happen. Any volunteers? l3it3r and Norkoastal have done a good job in taking the lead on this so far. How do you feel about making it happen Norkoastal andl3it3r's?
I would recommend getting some official support from XDA before beginning to compile resources for this effort. I really think there should be input from the owner/mods here who want to see this happen, & also get their take on maintaining the upkeep of this proposed rollout. I would be glad to throw my two pesos in, but wouldn't want to step on any toes or other efforts already in process, namely gecko..
I will be releasing a new more complete version of this very soon. Its a freewarepocketpc.net client working off the existing database online.
That's sweet! I use fwppc all the time because it's easy to navigate on the phone. I still think that XDA is the #1 name in Windows mobile development and that we could truly shine, but what if we were able to come up with a publicly agreed standard for thread creation down to the descriptions and layouts. Could you tie in an RSS feed from an XDA forum into that?
That's exactly what I was thinking l3it3r. A standardization for this site that is just setup for apps. If rss feeds were tied into it anyone could build an app that could go out and find the latest updates for their subscribed applications. Noobs wouldn't know about the applications used for downloading apps, but would know generally how to view a web forum. Its all about making it easier for the noobs to get interested in exploring the capabilities of WM and not to intimidate them. A good standardization of the layout would go a long way to expanding the user base and increase interest in our work.
What do you guys think?
With all things considered, I think it is better if this is done as a separate site as Napbree has done for finger friendly apps (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380748).
So if any legal issues should arise or site adjustments/enhancements that needs to be made, it can be dealt independently from XDA. This also can bring apps from other places into attention that isn't developed within XDA.
Cyrket is back up
http://www.cyrket.com/
Saurik will be adding back the ability to sort by date when he gets it sorted out.
Nice! It's a much 'cleaner' interface than androlib.com, even if it doesn't have quite as many features. I see they're supporting the Palm catalog now as well. Very cool, as my girlfriend has a Pre Anyone know why they were down for so long? Hopefully Saurik will be able to add more features in the near future.
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Nice! It's a much 'cleaner' interface than androlib.com, even if it doesn't have quite as many features. I see they're supporting the Palm catalog now as well. Very cool, as my girlfriend has a Pre Anyone know why they were down for so long? Hopefully Saurik will be able to add more features in the near future.
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About a week ago, it finally hit me: how to run a ~reasonably~ live Cyrket without being rate limited by Google. A week of no sleep later...[/QUOTE]
SpyderMS said:
Nice! It's a much 'cleaner' interface than androlib.com, even if it doesn't have quite as many features.
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Please send me an e-mail (do not just reply to this forum post: e-mail will be much more useful for me) with a list of features you think are important. The three things on the public todo list (which should be done pretty soon) are: 1) fix the display of permissions, which is simply stupidly broken; 2) get "newest/latest stuff" working again; 3) rewrite the RSS feed mechanism to work with the new site architecture (which requires #2 to be finished first); and 4) allow comments to be browsed in a more meaningful fashion than "show a bunch of comments for this app". There are other features that will likely happen, but those are the only ones I'm saying /are/ to users ;P.
saurik said:
Please send me an e-mail (do not just reply to this forum post: e-mail will be much more useful for me) with a list of features you think are important.
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please share your email address?
The ONLY thing I would like to see on Cyrket would be pretty URLs.
Instead of:
http://www.cyrket.com/search?market=android&category=6953
I would like:
http://www.cyrket.com/m/android/applications
Other than that, I think it's a very useful site!
OrganizedFellow said:
please share your email address?
The ONLY thing I would like to see on Cyrket would be pretty URLs.
Instead of:
/search?market=android&category=6953
I would like:
/m/android/applications
Other than that, I think it's a very useful site!
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My e-mail address is on every website I run, including Cyrket's home page.
I go to great lengths to make the URLs on Cyrket readable:
/p/android/net.tastybits.heat/icon
However, this anal attitude towards URLs means that I will not make a URL that I can't support going forward. The category tree is simply not stable at this time, nor do I really want it to be considered "stable". However, the category ID numbers in the search URL actually are stable: those nodes I can rearrange and then guarantee I can support old URLs.
(Out of curiosity: why are you even caring about those URLs? The only URLs I'd expect would matter to anyone would be the URLs for the packages themselves, metadata about the packages, and the URL for "newest stuff", which still hasn't been rewritten into the website yet.)
/Please/, however, send me any and all feature requests via e-mail: it would be difficult to make my e-mail address any more public than it is, and I get hundreds of e-mails a day from users, so I'm surprised you couldn't find it. My address is [email protected] (I had to put the (at) because the forum got mad at me).
Well first off, my apologies if what I said came across as 'anal'. After re-reading what I wrote, I can't find where you get that?!
Second, I admit I did not visit your site to look for your email address. I did view your profile here on XDA, but none was available. So. Sorry for that.
Why do I care about pretty URLs?
I talk to alot of people about Android - DumbPhone friends, Android friends, and iPhone friends.
I have tested & reviewed many apps, and share this information with these friends.
In my talks with them, I often tell them about Cyrket, which I prefer over other sites like androidtapp.com or androlib.com due to their complexity (no disrespect meant to either operator of those respective sites).
In my opinion, I just prefer Cyrket with its simpler layout, basic information, and ease of navigation.
The other sites I find 'too much going on'.
Having a pretty URL makes for easier memorizing of a URL. It's also easier to write down later. All this is just easier, faster, better to share with someone else.
As the 'web master' or 'developer' of Cyrket.com, I would have thought you knew all this. Even if it doesn't change, I'm just saying it's a better user experience for visitors to have Pretty URLs throughout the entire site for uniformity.
On a personal note: I just tend to prefer my reference sites which are easy on the eyes with minimal distraction! Just as SpyderMS said in post#2.
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Nice! It's a much 'cleaner' interface than androlib.com, even if it doesn't have quite as many features.
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Other than that, I think it's a very useful site!
OrganizedFellow said:
Well first off, my apologies if what I said came across as 'anal'. After re-reading what I wrote, I can't find where you get that?!
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I was saying that /I/ was "anal". I seriously spend hours fretting over the URL structure of Cyrket, which is why 99% of the website has such a beautiful URL structure. I dare you to find someone who spends as much time thinking about URLs as I do: that's why I used "anal" to describe myself.
*Sigh*... now that that got misinterpreted, though, the rest of your comment has gone down the "let's be hostile" avenue.
OrganizedFellow said:
Why do I care about pretty URLs?
I talk to alot of people about Android - DumbPhone friends, Android friends, and iPhone friends.
I have tested & reviewed many apps, and share this information with these friends.
In my talks with them, I often tell them about Cyrket, which I prefer over other sites like androidtapp.com or androlib.com due to their complexity (no disrespect meant to either operator of those respective sites).
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Most of these other sites also have much worse URLs. AppTapp doesn't only because they create vanity URLs for every package they choose to make a review of (which is not practical, nor is it maintainable).
AndroLib:
w~ww.androlib.com/android.application.org-connectbot-BDC.aspx
w~ww.androlib.com/appicon/app-BDC.cs.png
AndroidZoom:
w~ww.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/connectbot_rbm.html
c~dn-1.androidzoom.com/logos/8835.png
Cyrket:
w~ww.cyrket.com/p/android/org.connectbot/
c~ache.cyrket.com/p/android/org.connectbot/icon
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Having a pretty URL makes for easier memorizing of a URL. It's also easier to write down later. All this is just easier, faster, better to share with someone else.
As the 'web master' or 'developer' of Cyrket.com, I would have thought you knew all this. Even if it doesn't change, I'm just saying it's a better user experience for visitors to have Pretty URLs throughout the entire site for uniformity.
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What I asked was why you needed fast by-memory URL access to a subcategory sort. You managed to find the /one/ thing in Cyrket that currently has a bad URL, and made it an issue about the entire website.
I then explained the reason that one thing has a bad URL and asked you why you felt that specific page had such high-priority for having a better URL, and now you are acting like I don't consider good URLs important.
Frowny pants.
Oh, and OMG I HATE THIS FORUM, I am not even allowed to post URLs to it: please, for the love of all that is holy, send me e-mails in the future if you wish to continue this discussion.
First post so hello all you wonderful WM7 modifiers! slightly used Trophy 2.1 MNG & ready and excited and ready to contribute.
webOS hacker unfortunately bailing. Spent hours reading today and know what to do. But echoing DavidinCT comment on the proper ROMS, it does not seem like there is an updated or simple page which to use, find conflicting info around. Could it either be updated on head page, or in a Sticky? Also, multiple posts have alternate links to FREE downloads, but most do not link. I understand hosted sites, and it generating income, but after dl one and a half files while reading, bagged it because not sure which one. TIA
Hi there, I'm actually promoting my android game, and found it hard to find some reviewers, so I came with the idea that it could be great to start a thread to make a list of all the websites who reviews apps and games.
If you know some and you find the idea interesting, post the website you know as an answer to this thread and I will update my post :
- 148apps
- TechCrunch
- Gizmodo
- TheNextWeb
- Pocketgamer.biz
- And of course, XDA
Added from DimasGhost post :
gamedev
gcup
trashbox
reddit
slideme
androidforums
androidcentral
androidpit
androidcommunity
4pda (just Russian)
droidforums
attdroids
everythingandroid
androidtablets
(Sorry for bad english, not a native speaker)
You can find a pretty good list of app review sites on androidb.com
http://www.androidb.com/2013/07/android-review-sites-the-ultimate-list-to-help-market-your-app/
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TheKing1997 said:
You can find a pretty good list of app review sites on androidb.com
http://www.androidb.com/2013/07/android-review-sites-the-ultimate-list-to-help-market-your-app/
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That's a nice list, but the author use it to sell another list, which, in my opinion, should be free.
Pocketgamer.biz
Hi, You can go through appstimes.in which review your iphone, ipad, android, windows apps.
You can also try http://www.androidappsreview.com/
This site can give you good traffic.
gamedev
gcup
trashbox
reddit
slideme
androidforums
androidcentral
androidpit
androidcommunity
4pda (just Russian)
droidforums
attdroids
everythingandroid
androidtablets
Helpfull site list, I will use it
Nice list
Nice List, I have been scouring the internet to find good ones.
I'm glad to find this topic. I was thinking to open a separare one, but this one correlates with my question, so I'll ask it here.
Any Android gaming forums that covers upcoming game out there?
Does anyone know any decent Android forums devoted to gaming (with upcoming games section) like TouchArcade for iOS? I mean with daily activity like on TouchArcade.
(except those already mentioned - they don't have active 'Upcoming Games' sections)
Good list
Argurth said:
Hi there, I'm actually promoting my android game, and found it hard to find some reviewers, so I came with the idea that it could be great to start a thread to make a list of all the websites who reviews apps and games.
If you know some and you find the idea interesting, post the website you know as an answer to this thread and I will update my post :
- 148apps
- TechCrunch
- Gizmodo
- TheNextWeb
- And of course, XDA
(Sorry for bad english, not a native speaker)
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thanks for sharing bro
http://www.androidrundown.com/
http://apps4review.com/
http://www.androidshock.com/contact/
http://crazymikesapps.com/app-developers/
http://appsplit.com/blog/submit-an-app/
http://www.newappsreview.com/submit-your-app/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/contact-us
http://www.smartkeitai.com/contact/
http://www.androidencyclopedia.com/contact-us/
http://www.androidsocialmedia.com/about-2/suggest-content
http://getandroidstuff.com/submit-app/
http://101bestandroidapps.com/auth/contact
http://www.droid-life.com/contact/
http://www.148apps.com/
http://androidcommunity.com/send-tips/
http://www.androidapplog.com/suggest-app/
http://appmodo.com/category/reviews/
http://phandroid.com/contact/#cforms_captcha6
http://androidandme.com/contact/
http://androidspin.com/application-review-request/
http://appstouse.com/submit-app-for-review
http://www.100bestandroidapps.com/contact
http://www.askyourandroid.com/request-for-review/
http://apps400.com/submit-your-application-for-review
http://latestandroidapps.net/submit-android-app/
http://www.appsapk.com/submit-app/
http://www.androidguys.com/submit-your-android-app-or-game/
http://www.androidappsreview.com/submit-your-android-app/
http://www.appszoom.com/developers/login
http://www.formstack.com/forms/envato-appstorm_review
http://www.androidtapp.com/get-reviewed/
http://www.talkandroid.com/contact-us/
http://www.lifeofandroid.com/submit-an-app/
Good list, and it includes sites that people actually visit. However, imo reviews outside of the app stores don't mean a great deal. You'll get much further by putting your app in front of the right people and having them talk about it, embedding social features in your app to encourage people to talk about it, encouraging good reviews and managing bad reviews (offering good support is one way to do this).
Honestly, these lists are quite outdated.
As soon as I finish sending emails around I will post an updated spreadsheet on our website.