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Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
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firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
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adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
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fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
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fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
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@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?
I've been searching both google, and the xda forums all day trying to find a solution for this problem. I want to test certain functionalities of ROMS in the emulator. The problem is that I'm unable to get past the bootscreen animation on any ROM.
All the guides I've found are for Roms based on 1.5 and earlier.
My method thus far has been to nandroid backup my system, paste the system.img into a copy of the 2.1 API folder located in "platforms".
It's obviously trying to load the system, because it's showing the custom boot sequence, but fails at some point and goes into a loop.
Thus far, I've tried upping the RAM, Cache, and heap limit of the emulator, but to no avail.
So, I'm fairly new to Android myself and am still learning things daily. My first two thoughts are:
1) Aren't there some drivers in the system.img that are going to be device specific? So, you'll have to swap out the Eris stuff and insert some 'goldfish' drivers or whatever they call the emulated arch?
2) Logcat is your friend. Logcat it while it's booting up. That should give you some clues.
3) If you figure this out, please post the steps so that anyone else who wants to do the same will not have to start from scratch.
4) Isn't this fun?
gnarlyc
Indeed, will logcat it tonight and see what I can find through that.
I was looking for a way to make custom rom running in the emulator.anyone got a working 2.1 rom for emulator?
Well hello everyone.
I am an application development student from Belgium.
I am proficient in Java, VB.NET, some c/c++ and also PHP/JS/HTML/CSS
Anyways, my recent interest has been going out to creating custom roms for the galaxy S!
The problem now is though, I was able to find some guides and such, but most were incomplete, and for HTC(and other) devices.
I have no idea what is different between making a ROM for galaxy S or a ROM for an HTC device.
If anyone would like to link me to some good resources that can help me on my way, or would like to collaborate (and in the meanwhile teach me a bit) I would be more than happy! (I am open for collaboration as I am pretty proficient in Java and I'm always happy to code and learn more about coding!)
I think the question is really want you want to do!
Custom ROMs for Android are as simple as using recovery console to replace files on the system with your own versions.
ie. Replace the framework.apk which contains all theme images with your own modified one, which you can use to skin the device. Same for replacing other system apps.
Unfortunately, most of these apps are closed source, so modifying them is difficult. The stock android system has open source versions of most of them though, and you can modify those and build them, and then replace the ones on the device. I'm not entirely sure how to build them up though, but it probably isn't too hard.
Then there are custom kernels, which let you actually change the underlying linux system underneath android - Samsung has an open source version of the kernel available that you can compile, and then flash to your phone using Odin or other tools. Compiling the kernel is pretty tricky though.
Well i'm really talking about stuff like SamSet, MoDaCo, Doc's ROM and others.
I'm not saying I want to create a pro ROM in a day or anything, but i'd really love to learn more to get better (always looking for more stuff to put on the resume, I guess?!)
Thanks a lot,
Kenny
Bump for some help
(sorry for the double post but i'm really eager to learn)
I don't have time to give a detailed response right now. However you will want to read up on yaffs (file system) and odexing/deodexing ROMs.
Thank you I will definately do that,
I am following a guide now to start out creating custom ROMs for android, however it was written for Motorola Droid and I have no idea what you have to do different for a samsung galaxy s.
I am a good coder, even though I say so myself, with a lot of experience. I also have a lot of linux experience, you name it
Only the problem is the old, and much known "where do I get started?"
So if anyone can point me out in the right direction on that, tell me how/where you started out, I would appreciate it greatly!
Thanks!
Very sorry to bump again
I set up my environment in ubuntu today to get started (just gotta fix a few errors, didn't know android wouldn't compile on java 1.6, only on 1.5)
Anyways, still need some help here! thanks!
Again I am awefully sorry for the bump here but i'd really like some help.
Note that i'm not a newbie at coding whatsoever and i'm not unfamiliar with some hardcore java, c/c++ and other languages, I'm just having trouble getting started when it comes to modding an existing android release (there are tutorials on HTC and other devices but some methods do not apply to the galaxy S)
If you're trying to create a ROM from scratch then unfortunately you're out of luck at the moment. No one has really managed to do so yet. By "from scratch" I mean the Android Open Source Project (i.e. official Android git repository).
What you can do is grab an existing firmware. Extract the contents, de-odex the apks, modify them or add new apks, optionally you can also compile a custom SGS kernel using Samsung's kernel source. Then you can re-odex the ROM, pack it back up and distribute it.
There's no real "starting place" as such and you won't yet find any tutorials about how to create SGS ROMs. Just give it a go and see where you get.
Yes, I do mean creating a ROM from stock samsung firmware, of course.
So my next logical question would be now:
How do I go over extracting contents from the existing samsung firmware, de-odexing and so on?
Any links/guides/tips are greatly appreciated, as long as they are applicable to this cell phone and not totally crap, thanks!
Samsung uses rfs, I think you should know. There is a thread somewhere in this forum regarding extracting .rfs file. Understood you need Debian though.
For some readup, go search for a famous guy named JesusFreke. Tons of materials...
Hope that from here onwards, this can lead you on, and to find out more. Google is your friend too...
I'm afraid my biggest problems already occur in setting up the environment, so it's really the very beginning that gets me stuck, i'm sure coding would be a bikeride compared to setting up the environment for me (i'm no hero in linux,not at all, i'm afraid)
How the hell do I get from point A (being downloading the full source) to point B (starting to create a custom ROM?)
thanks
of course if anyone has the time, and wants to, you can PM me your msn or something, if anyone is up to it
Raykoid666 said:
I'm afraid my biggest problems already occur in setting up the environment, so it's really the very beginning that gets me stuck, i'm sure coding would be a bikeride compared to setting up the environment for me (i'm no hero in linux,not at all, i'm afraid)
How the hell do I get from point A (being downloading the full source) to point B (starting to create a custom ROM?)
thanks
of course if anyone has the time, and wants to, you can PM me your msn or something, if anyone is up to it
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Agreed completely! Getting a full cross-compilation to Samsung's Android going is seriously difficult! There have been some promises for tutorials and guides for setting things up though, but none have appeared yet. Probably because it's hard!
Well thank you for agreeing with me on that.
I am really hoping for anyone that can help me out here, either on here or in private, and give some detailed instructions on how to get started.
Hell there is enough information on creating roms alread, deodexing, adding/removing apps etc etc etc... The real problem lies in setting everything up properly.
I think I have gotten to the point where I'm compiling the android source (without samsung specific files)
note i'm saying "i think i am compiling" because i'm hoping it won't error out on me again after an hour of compiling!
But once that is done... I have no idea where to go next, where to get the samsung specific files, or what to do with them whatsoever once i have them
thanks!
Android generic source won't actually help you much. Samsung has made a huge number of changes to it, and while it is all open source, backporting their changes to get your stock source running on the phone is a major undertaking. I believe cyanogenmod was actually working on this, but it seems without much success so far.
What the other rom makers you see are doing is taking a snapshot of a running rom, copying over all of the APKs and the files on a running device, and then tweaking those. ie. Opening up framework-res.apk and changing the image files inside.
The update.zip roms that are what most people are doing are really just using the Android recovery to replace files on the phone with their own versions. Since the underlying system is linux, and everything is a file, this actually works pretty well.
The kernel development effort is completely separate from the rest of the system though, and Samsung has provided the entire source tree that just has to be compiled. I'm a bit stumped myself on all the details of setting it up, but I have seen some threads on this forum about it, and it didn't seem too bad to set up. Apparently you shouldn't use the codesourcery toolchain though, or something. Not too clued up on it, sorry. Hopefully someone with the details can chime in, or give us a link to the old post on it (I'm failing to find it using the search function! )
Alright sounds good!
So these recovery files you are talking about (the contents of /system) how do i retrieve those from a base ROM such as JM7 or the likes after a clean flash?)
Raykoid666 said:
Alright sounds good!
So these recovery files you are talking about (the contents of /system) how do i retrieve those from a base ROM such as JM7 or the likes after a clean flash?)
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Root your phone, zip them up onto the sdcard, and then copy them off.
There are probably better methods, but this works fine.
Also, with credits to Unhelpful, he has told me that the correct toolchain to be using is 'uClibc or eglibc toolchain with ct-ng'. I have no idea what to do with that yet, but it's a start.
RyanZA said:
Root your phone, zip them up onto the sdcard, and then copy them off.
There are probably better methods, but this works fine.
Also, with credits to Unhelpful, he has told me that the correct toolchain to be using is 'uClibc or eglibc toolchain with ct-ng'. I have no idea what to do with that yet, but it's a start.
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You don't even need to root your phone to pull /system Ryan
adb pull /system <random folder>
is all you need ^^
Alright thank you, I managed to get all the /system files using abd pull /system
now next thing up would be de-odexing right, before I go editing stuff?
Now before I go de-odexing. Can anyone tell me what exactly de-odexing is and why I need it?
and what do I need to do to create an update.zip again?
thanks a lot all!
Tayutama said:
You don't even need to root your phone to pull /system Ryan
adb pull /system <random folder>
is all you need ^^
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Haha cool, didn't know you could pull whole folders!
Raykoid666 said:
Alright thank you, I managed to get all the /system files using abd pull /system
now next thing up would be de-odexing right, before I go editing stuff?
Now before I go de-odexing. Can anyone tell me what exactly de-odexing is and why I need it?
and what do I need to do to create an update.zip again?
thanks a lot all!
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The apk files in Android are odexed - that means they have a special index applied for dalvik that speeds them up somehow! I don't know how, I haven't checked how it actually works.
The important point is though:
odexed is faster, but you can't edit it because of signatures or something technical
deodexed means you can change it however you want
More useful info can be found from google - lots of it!
update.zip is easy - it's a zip file in a special format that can be understood by Android's recovery console. The easiest way to do it is to grab an existing update.zip and modify it as needed. Tayutama has millions of em around, so use his!
Then you need to sign it once you're finished with it so that the SGS will accept it. Samsung made a boo-boo and didn't disable the test keys for the 2.1 SGS firmwares. That makes it easy!
http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-sign-apk-zip-files/
Just use the test keys to sign it, and then copy it to /sdcard/update.zip and reboot into recovery and it'll work.
Hello, I have a stock XOOM WiFi (Wingray) and have been looking at installing a custom ROM. I am doing it for fun, knowledge, and to hopefully get a little better performance out of my XOOM.
I currently use my xoom for Web Browsing, XBMC, and Sling Player...
I have been searching the Web and this Forum for information on how i can do this, step by step but i am lost. I know that i have to do the following:
1.Unlock Boot loader (Lord AIO Tool, was unsuccessful which is why i started the thread to post useful links after i succeed.)
2.Modify the Recovery Partition.
3.BigPart
4.Install Custom ROM (Based on whatever Android Ver / Kernel)
I am running Mac OSX 10.8, have a windows VM, and access to a windows laptop if needed.
*EDIT*
Results: I used my Windows Laptop and started to have some success with the Lord AIO Tool. i dont see why the VM wouldn't work, but i had given up on the VM thinking it may have cause a problem.
Steps Needed:
1. Download Motorola Fastboot Drivers:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481
2. Download ADP Tool (or Install Android SDK and add appropriate locations to your System Path)
ADP Tool: (Awesome)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Android SDK:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
3. Download Lord AIO Tools: (also, Awesome)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468298
4. Download the ROM you need. I used OMNI 4.4.2 (Also needed Big Part, and this too is Awesome)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593757
Big Part:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506997
5. Download Super User Root zip file.
6. Format an microSD Card FAT32 and copy over the following files:
TeamWin Recover Partition
TeamWin Recovery Partition Big Part (only needed for ROMs that need larger partition.
Super User
OMNI ROM (or whatever ROM you want)
GApps (one of the Google Apps. I used the gapps-wingray-kk-20131223.zip)
7. Follow Instructions for Lord AIO Tool installation and then do the following:
Run the tool and unlock the boot loader (enter option 03, not 3, but 03)
When done you need to install The recovery partition, i used TeamWin RP. (This is option 09 in the Lord AIO Tool)
Then i rebooted into recovery mode and was in the TeamWin RP menu. From there i Flashed the BigPart, then ROM, then Gapps, and then the Super User to Root.
I think there is an option to Root from the Lord AIO Tool, but i dont think i used it at all.
I was trying stuff all day and when it's all said and done I think that's basically what i did, things didnt always work on the first try and i had some trouble mounting the microSD in the Recovery Partition.
I put this here to hopefully give people new to the game a run down of what to do. i did a lot of searching yesterday and was spinning my wheels. and some of the old threads i found were quite technical and had dead links. (not necessarily from XDA) It's not a Step by Step for the XOOM but will hopefully get people who are late to the game a good start.
tonycajjo said:
Hello, I have a stock XOOM WiFi (Wingray) and have been looking at installing a custom ROM. I am doing it for fun, knowledge, and to hopefully get a little better performance out of my XOOM.
I currently use my xoom for Web Browsing, XBMC, and Sling Player...
I have been searching the Web and this Forum for information on how i can do this, step by step but i am lost. I know that i have to do the following:
1.Unlock Boot loader (Lord AIO Tool, was unsuccessful which is why i started the thread to post useful links after i succeed.)
2.Modify the Recovery Partition.
3.BigPart
4.Install Custom ROM (Based on whatever Android Ver / Kernel)
I am running Mac OSX 10.8, have a windows VM, and access to a windows laptop if needed.
*EDIT*
Results: I used my Windows Laptop and started to have some success with the Lord AIO Tool. i dont see why the VM wouldn't work, but i had given up on the VM thinking it may have cause a problem.
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I use the Lord AIO Tool on desktop Windows 8.1 and when I ran the Set_Up.bat as Admin, it say file is missing. Not sure what i did wrong.
cat2115 said:
I use the Lord AIO Tool on desktop Windows 8.1 and when I ran the Set_Up.bat as Admin, it say file is missing. Not sure what i did wrong.
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i did not need to run as Admin, possibly cause the user was already admin. i had issues when i ran as admin... that's one thing i forgot to add above. (I ran it on Win7 32-Bit)
2. Download ADP Tool (or Install Android SDK and add appropriate locations to your System Path)
ADP Tool: (Awesome)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2588979
Android SDK:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
also, try moving LAIOT to C:\ if not already there.
after you install ADP tool you may have to reinstall LAIOT, delete the files and just start over using the setup.bat
Stuck on step seven
I will be very grateful of any help stuck on step seven it says too many parameters
floydme said:
I will be very grateful of any help stuck on step seven it says too many parameters
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what part of step 7? my step 7 is pretty broad.
tonycajjo said:
what part of step 7? my step 7 is pretty broad.
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After running setup bat on the second return key hit I I get too many parameters message
Perfect (step by step)
Followed this step by step, utilizing this process as well as the individual threads regarding each part (Big Part Partitioning, LORD AIO Tool-with file folder placed on "C" drive, etc.) and worked like a charm.
This thread should become sticky and placed at the very top for Xoom Rooting guide.
Stingray Xoom
kamikazebeats said:
Followed this step by step, utilizing this process as well as the individual threads regarding each part (Big Part Partitioning, LORD AIO Tool-with file folder placed on "C" drive, etc.) and worked like a charm.
This thread should become sticky and placed at the very top for Xoom Rooting guide.
Stingray Xoom
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good stuff, glad it helped.
floydme said:
After running setup bat on the second return key hit I I get too many parameters message
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can you write explicitly what the error says, and when you hit "enter" the second time what are you exactly hitting enter to?
also include a bit of info on what OS you are using, where you have stuff installed, and so on.
Webos Ports has released Open webOS for Touchpad and now has new name of LuneOS.
This be another OS for our touchpad
Warning its still early Alpha. I hope it also get some supports
http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Tenderloin_Info
I have data reset my Touchpad and installed android Kitkat via the great Touchpad Toolbox by jcsullins. I like to dual boot between android and LuneOS
The difficult part is to do step 1. of install with no webOS. installed. I have tried but have limited knowledge of android / linux file systems
1. Create an ext3fs lvm partition of at least 1GB (use Tailor or Meta-Doctor to achieve this). It must be named ext3fs ! Tailor automatically uses this name for an ext3 partition.
If some dev or android guru's could help by creating a android app or script to create ext3fs partition and allow it to be mounted. (maybe another option for Touchpad Toolbox)
LuneOS is based on android kernel/drivers and even list android version in settings / about.
The future plan is to be able to install on any rooted android device. Currently installs on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2012), and Touchpad.
You could always use the touchpad toolbox to reinstall webos then follow the instructions there…
chris5s said:
You could always use the touchpad toolbox to reinstall webos then follow the instructions there…
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I tried it and was lot of work for create one partition, I corrupted my webos boot and the lune.OS image had bug of no WiFi connection.(webos Ports were quick to update new image that worked). Had to data reset and start again. After seeing that lune.OS is android based has to be a easier way for us who now only have android. I don't plan to go back to webos as apps are loosing there support and browser so outdated. Line.OS is using modern browser engine, so even not many apps should be able to use websites apps.
I think atm its a very major WIP, and as such installation etc is for the very hardy lol.
Once more development has taken place then it will become easier to install and use.
Btw, think maybe this thread should be in a different forum?
Anyway, thanks for the info!
chris5s said:
I think atm its a very major WIP, and as such installation etc is for the very hardy lol.
Once more development has taken place then it will become easier to install and use.
Btw, think maybe this thread should be in a different forum?
Anyway, thanks for the info!
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It should be in the "Other Touchpad Development" forum
I think what could help you might be this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
If you try to do something like this, just knowing what are the partition space and name value you need instead for android /data/media and the luna webOS port and you might be able to do something.
General Idea :
#1 : Using the recovery from the link, make the partition you need for luna and make a single partition of android which is the media store line, don't do the other line if you don't need it, they are legacy dual boot value.
#2 : Untar your installing file, you might want to refer to the old Arch Linux installer or Ubuntu Installer, they are pretty easy to code.
#3 : Boot Toolbox and install your android.
I hope for you this Luna WebOS port don't use the old media partition from Android non data/media because it will be a pain to get enough space for each partition to share between the 2 OS.
Edit : Ok, so you really need WebOS... Ok, just follow the full tutorial from the link or use the toolbox by following the onscreen tutorial (toolbox's the better option). I was thinking it was something like the Ubuntu Touch install or other Linux.
Atari-San said:
I think what could help you might be this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
If you try to do something like this, just knowing what are the partition space and name value you need instead for android /data/media and the luna webOS port and you might be able to do something.
General Idea :
#1 : Using the recovery from the link, make the partition you need for luna and make a single partition of android which is the media store line, don't do the other line if you don't need it, they are legacy dual boot value.
#2 : Untar your installing file, you might want to refer to the old Arch Linux installer or Ubuntu Installer, they are pretty easy to code.
#3 : Boot Toolbox and install your android.
I hope for you this Luna WebOS port don't use the old media partition from Android non data/media because it will be a pain to get enough space for each partition to share between the 2 OS.
Edit : Ok, so you really need WebOS... Ok, just follow the full tutorial from the link or use the toolbox by following the onscreen tutorial (toolbox's the better option). I was thinking it was something like the Ubuntu Touch install or other Linux.
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You may be able to set Lune OS and Android on the same /data/media and then set permissions in each OS to only allow each respected OS read its own "sdcard".
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Hey guys,
I have two questions.
1. How can I install a new nightly? There are so many different files for one date.
2.Can I replace webos with lunaOs? and how can I do it?
There are 2 types of luneOS images, one Dev and one non Dev, Dev has a lot of inbuilt logging for developers.
There is now a luneOS forum at
http://forums.webosnation.com/luneos/
The luneOS install has been updated and easier to understand.
May be able to use this info to install luneOS on data media.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761381