Will we lose the ability to flash a new Rom? Ie. does the perfected SPL remove the ability of the recovery?
I have root now and I am running a custom rom, but I only care about being able to flash roms, wireless tether isn't as important as functioning Bluetooth.
If you flash that update you'll get perfected SPL. Means no custom ROMs or root. Link me somewhere I can download the file, so I can make instructions how to install with engineerings SPL.
You can put on cursorsense 1.2.0 till people come out with a fix for other roms.
it is based off of the rogers rom and is rooted w/o perfect spl
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I've found this using search, but I just want someone else to back it. What I want to do is install the ADP 1.5 unrooted version by HTC. I want to do this on my normal US T-Mobile G1. All I need to do is update to the Engineering SPL, and flash the Nbh of 1.1 then to 1.5, correct? I've rooted before so I know most of what I'm doing, I just don't want to brick it. Thanks in advance!
There is no nbh for ADP1 firmware as no nbh is needed (feature of the engineering bootloader is that this is not needed). Everything you need is available as update.zip files. Root (requires RC29 nbh file), run the update.zip for the SPL, then install the ADP1 v1.5 firmware. Why would you want to write 1.1 first?? Makes no sense. Go straight to 1.5. Also, ADP1 firmware, by definition, gives you root access, so there is no such thing as ADP1 "unrooted" firmware. "unrooted" is a stupid word anyways.
I JUST found out about the Hard SPL (after Googling about various SPLs due to the various recent threads on this subject). I had the Engineering bootloader to begin with, but I just downloaded and installed the HardSPL. In other words, I used the Wiki.
Hardspl is redundant since you don't need nbh files at all with engineering spl.
I rooted my phone using the "one click" root method (from standard Rogers 1.5 firmware) (http://zenthought.org/system/files/asset/2/flashrec-1.1.1-20090908.apk) and then updated to the latest radio:
•2.22.19.26I
•Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
•http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
I initiall got the box with the arrow then the phone continued to the Rogers boot screen and has been stuck there for 20 minutes at least! So i took out the battery and turned it back on again and it get stuck on the Rogers screen still!
Have I bricked it!?! I thought you can only brick it when you update the SPL ... all I did was update the radio. Please HELP!
Thanks in advance.
Do you have a RA or Cyan recovery?
If so, try booting into it. You know, Home+Power.
yes when i did the "one step" root, it made a recovery image ... but when I press home+power it still sits on the Rogers screen!
the power+camera button combination doesn't work either.
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If it helps I was following the instructions step by step from: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/howtos/howto_hack_your_android_g1_phone?page=0,2
If you have a Rogers Dream you should be following the guide here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
You have a radio that is incompatible with your rom and recovery. You should be able to fix this by just flashing the radio for rogers phone again.
Boot into fastboot on your phone using camera and power on and check what SPL you have (hboot 1.33.00??).
according to that guide I bricked my phone:
2.Be very careful of any upgrade or mod instructions that require you to install an HTC "Recovery" zip/image, a replacement radio, or anything that might cause a difference of versions thereby bricking your phone.
eg: you currently have an EBI1 system and recovery image. If you boot an EBI0 radio image you will no longer be able to boot your phone.
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That guide should really say "thereby possibly bricking your phone". I will make the change. If you want me to try to help you fix your phone I can but you will need to tell me what version your spl is.
I would appreciate your help! except that I can't boot into recovery mode/fast boot mode or any other mode, therefore can't check spl version.
I knew that you wouldn't be able to get into recovery but I thought you would still be able to get into fastboot. You can also try holding back while powering on. Without getting into one of these modes I'm afraid there's not much we can do.
Its sorta a long shot but you could try this: (its for the magic but its worth a shot as a last resort)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683
FLASH RADIO FIRST THEN FLASH SPL. LOOK BELOW FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
you are supposed to update radio and spl. you cannot choose one. first flash radio and when it says to reboot, reboot and it will reboot back into recovery when done. then flash the spl. same steps as above. then wipe data, wipe ext file system, then repair ext. after that flash the rom again. the radio and the spl is from the same site you used.
hope this helped. you should do research before flashing anything. i'm glad i did before flashing a new radio and spl. also once you get sorted out, flash the same recovery image i have (in signature) and make a nandroid backup for cyanogen or a donut rom and make a bart backup for hero rom (i recommend MLIGN 3.2B but switch to the Hero 2.1 ROM when they fix everthing) so you can switch those out. it is safe and I did it a lot of times.
I really want to get 1.6 on my device, (Rogers Dream) but I really don't want to flash the SPL, because if I brick that I have to buy a totally new Dream, no warranty.
What to do!
edit: I booted with camera and power and it says hboot is 1.33.0009, does this mean I don't have to risk bricking when I root? The tutorial is for 1.33.0010.
AndroidNoobie said:
FLASH RADIO FIRST THEN FLASH SPL. LOOK BELOW FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
you are supposed to update radio and spl. you cannot choose one. first flash radio and when it says to reboot, reboot and it will reboot back into recovery when done. then flash the spl. same steps as above. then wipe data, wipe ext file system, then repair ext. after that flash the rom again. the radio and the spl is from the same site you used.
hope this helped. you should do research before flashing anything. i'm glad i did before flashing a new radio and spl. also once you get sorted out, flash the same recovery image i have (in signature) and make a nandroid backup for cyanogen or a donut rom and make a bart backup for hero rom (i recommend MLIGN 3.2B but switch to the Hero 2.1 ROM when they fix everthing) so you can switch those out. it is safe and I did it a lot of times.
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1) This is for ROGERS Dreams, they use different radios and SPLs to regular HTC Dreams/G1's. So your instructions would brick ROGERS Dreams.
2) You don't have to flash the radio and SPL at the same time. They are independant, however the 1.33.2005 requires the 26i radio. If you're on 1.1 and you upgrade to a 1.5/1.6 ROM you should update the radio, but there's no reason to change the SPL from stock unless you want to flash builds the require extra space in the NAND.
if im using the dwang 1.13 flash, will the sapphire radio update work with the g1? is it compatible?
sorry what does updating the radio do for you?
Sorry for the probably dumb question, but I'm unclear on something.
I know that the new SPL with the OTA Froyo update is perfected. Does that mean that we can't:
A. Flash a custom recovery?
B. Install a custom rom?
C. Apply SAPPIMG if I seriously **** something up?
D. MOST IMPORTANT - nandroid back to where I am now?
I really want to try the official update with new radio but I want to be able to nandroid back to where I am now if I decide for some reason that the update irritates me. Can someone shed some light?
Well the word "perfected" refers to the ability to get unrestricted access to the nand (the storage of the device). With a perfected spl, you have no access to nand + others important instructions. Which means that you cannot flash/erase any of the fun partitions, e.g. spl, radio or recovery. Nor can you flash/erase system, boot ect...
On some non-perfected spl, you had the restriction of the above, but you could load("boot") your images and therefore easily boot a custom recovery and do whatever you wanted.
With perfected spl the option of booting an img is not there.
On some devices, like the magic, we have engineering spl, which ignores the s-off flag. S-on/s-off refers to "security" off/on. With security off you have unrestricted access to the nand.
On some other devices, you have modified spl/hboot, E.g. The Desire device.
Their hboot will simply ignore the s-off flag and give you unrestricted access on the nand + the other fun commands, e.g erase and boot.
Now you aske, Ignore the s-off flag???
Yes, the s-off flag (called "secuflag" ) is actually set in something called Radio NVRAM.
This operate in a lower level then the radio image you flash.
The non + perfected spl reads this flag and behaves accordingly.
The modified hboot + eng hboot simply ignores it.
Going back to the magic device.
As long we can get root on the system, we can flash our own custom recovery. From the custom recovery we can flash the eng spl. And wooooot... we have unrestricted access to nand.
Remember, that the spl, radio and system all are simply partitions on the nand. With root we can flash what ever we want.
The only problem can be, if the 2.2 update has a radio img that do not play nicely with the current eng spl. But will still be able to load a custom recovery wit root access... so the option to flash custom roms will always be there if we can get root on the system.
Last i checked, the android 2.2 is no problem to root using a special exploid.
So don't worry... all is good :0)
Applying a sappimg, is a feature built in all spl. You can ALWAYS flash a sappimg.zip from fastboot if you have same cid nr as the sappimg.zip and the main-version of the phone is the same or lower of what you are trying to flash!
So don't worry :0)
What is goldcard used for?
A good question. Goldcards are used to skip the CID check. E.g. my nordic magic with cid HTC-Y13 can flash the Rogers update with CID ROGER001.
But still, the main-version check still applies :0)
No more knowledge from me today... my hands hurts
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Well the word "perfected" refers to the ability to get unrestricted access to the nand (the storage of the device). With a perfected spl, you have no access to nand + others important instructions. Which means that you cannot flash/erase any of the fun partitions, e.g. spl, radio or recovery. Nor can you flash/erase system, boot ect...
On some non-perfected spl, you had the restriction of the above, but you could load("boot") your images and therefore easily boot a custom recovery and do whatever you wanted.
With perfected spl the option of booting an img is not there.
On some devices, like the magic, we have engineering spl, which ignores the s-off flag. S-on/s-off refers to "security" off/on. With security off you have unrestricted access to the nand.
On some other devices, you have modified spl/hboot, E.g. The Desire device.
Their hboot will simply ignore the s-off flag and give you unrestricted access on the nand + the other fun commands, e.g erase and boot.
Now you aske, Ignore the s-off flag???
Yes, the s-off flag (called "secuflag" ) is actually set in something called Radio NVRAM.
This operate in a lower level then the radio image you flash.
The non + perfected spl reads this flag and behaves accordingly.
The modified hboot + eng hboot simply ignores it.
Going back to the magic device.
As long we can get root on the system, we can flash our own custom recovery. From the custom recovery we can flash the eng spl. And wooooot... we have unrestricted access to nand.
Remember, that the spl, radio and system all are simply partitions on the nand. With root we can flash what ever we want.
The only problem can be, if the 2.2 update has a radio img that do not play nicely with the current eng spl. But will still be able to load a custom recovery wit root access... so the option to flash custom roms will always be there if we can get root on the system.
Last i checked, the android 2.2 is no problem to root using a special exploid.
So don't worry... all is good :0)
Applying a sappimg, is a feature built in all spl. You can ALWAYS flash a sappimg.zip from fastboot if you have same cid nr as the sappimg.zip and the main-version of the phone is the same or lower of what you are trying to flash!
So don't worry :0)
What is goldcard used for?
A good question. Goldcards are used to skip the CID check. E.g. my nordic magic with cid HTC-Y13 can flash the Rogers update with CID ROGER001.
But still, the main-version check still applies :0)
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Wow, thank you very much for the prompt and extremely detailed reply! That's exactly what I needed to know.
So since it's already been verified that the superoneclick root method works on mt3g with ota 2.2, I'll be fine if I decide I'm not happy.
Cool, that's what I needed to know.
Thanks!
Glad i could clarify :0)
Does anyone know if its possible to flash the desire z without rooting the phone. If possible how
What are you trying to flash? If you're trying to flash a custom ROM, the ROMs themselves are rooted. So even if it were somehow possible to flash without prior root, you would still be rooted afterwards.
I am trying to flash a stock rom that was rooted but i accedently went in to recovery and it cant be rooted anymore by using visionary(+), x4root or the rage method. So i need to flash back to stock or need a way to flash a custom rom. If you have any ideas im willing to try anything
I believe flashing the stock ROM does not require root.
Also, are you S-Off? If so, you apparently don't need to be rooted to flash a custom ROM, if you are still S-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12379982&postcount=4
unfortunatly my phone is not s-off so i need to find another way to flash or root the device. I checkecd the thread link, But i have tryed this method.
I was wondering would the OTA update to 2.3 gingerbread be enough to reset the device to standard. So i can root the device and flash custom roms?
Thanks
I got this issue solved.
I used an original HTC ruu to flash back to stock.
This worked, And i was able to root the device and i have now been able to clock the device also
I have been using custom rom's for along time. It's easy once you update the recovery.
Now i need to install the official rom that came with 32A. My question is if i install RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_India_3.05.720.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe (this is a windows install), does it
There is no change in SPL 1.76.2007 or radio library(6.35.16.19)
1. change my recovery
2. will it change my engineering spl to perfect spl
thelast_star said:
I have been using custom rom's for along time. It's easy once you update the recovery.
Now i need to install the official rom that came with 32A. My question is if i install RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_India_3.05.720.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe (this is a windows install), does it
There is no change in SPL 1.76.2007 or radio library(6.35.16.19)
1. change my recovery
2. will it change my engineering spl to perfect spl
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I'm not sure if running the RUU will change your recovery, but it will change your SPL to a perfect one for sure. Why do you want to install an official ROM? It's for warranty purpose? I'm only asking this because if it's only for the ROM, you can find here at xda the official ROMs flashable via recovery.
Cheers
thelast_star said:
I have been using custom rom's for along time. It's easy once you update the recovery.
Now i need to install the official rom that came with 32A. My question is if i install RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_India_3.05.720.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe (this is a windows install), does it
There is no change in SPL 1.76.2007 or radio library(6.35.16.19)
1. change my recovery
2. will it change my engineering spl to perfect spl
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Official ROM 3.05.720.3 will change your phone to full stock state:
- hboot 1.76.0009 pvt s-on - perfected
- radio 6.35.08.29
- stock recovery
But you need goldcard to flash Indian rom if your phone has different cid than rom has (HTC__038)
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Hi Unkjcr,
Can you tell me where i can find 3.05.720.3 India, which can be flashable via recovery. I don't mind keeping recovery. i don't want to again do the process of recovery & perfected spl. I need to put this for warranty purpose for some time. I only found this official .exe which runs from windows.
Help appreciated!