Ok i am just going to stay on my EM+ without the discount but I made the mistake of choosing the subsidy by opening a new line.
anyone know if I can just cancel that new line that I opened and just pay the other 350.00 off. i know google has the equipment recovery fee so how does that get charged?
Unfortunately since these phones are purchased through a "3rd party" (i.e. Google rather than directly from T-Mobile) they get you coming and going. Two different parties have a piece of you now. Google charges a fee because the subsidy they would have gotten for your contract gets pulled and they need to recoup the money. T-Mobile then charges a cancellation fee as a standard practice for you walking out on all that revenue you had "promised" them in the contract. I think it is $350 to Google and another $200 to T-Mobile.
If you are within 14 days (or 30 days in California) then you can return it and buy an unsubsidized full price version. You'll get your money back and won't be charged any subsidy recovery fees or contract cancellation fees, but you will have to pay for cell phone usage during the time you had it.
Also, you can always try to talk to T-Mobile and they may be able to waive the cancellation fee to convert your EM contract into an EM+ account without you having to go through the entire process. It would still trigger Google's "equipment recover fees", and it would again help if you were within the "buyer's remorse" time frame, but it might avoid having to do the whole return and configure a new phone process. In either case it will depend a lot on your begging^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hnegotiation skills...
I signed up yesterday so cant I just cancel that line from t-mobile with no charge then just pay google the other 350?
If you signed up yesterday then just return the phone. You have 14 days to do that (30 in California) for a full refund minus $45. Do that and then re-order without a subsidy. It's cheaper.
Yea that was my original plan but wouldnt it technically be the same price without all the wait?
I paid $180.00 then decided i didnt want the contract so cancel that and pay google the $350.00 to make it $530.00 total.
EDIT- I should clarify I already have the EM+ plan and added a line. I want to keep the EM+. Just cancel the new line I opened.
Just cancel your new tmo plan - there will be no charge from them since you signed up yesterday. Once google catches that you cancelled and didn't return the phone I would imagine they would just charge you the $350 on the credit card you used originally to pay.
thats what I was thinking as well. I sure wish google had a phone center set up for the nexus so I could just call and have them take it out now. So four weeks down the road I get a charge.
Do you guys think that it would be the 14days that you have to return it. After the 14 days if they check and see its canceled would they charge me then?
I purchased on subsidy and then switched to the EM+ and haven't yet been charged, and I got it on the first day. So, I'm not exactly sure when they will charge the remainder.
yikes! hopefully they do it in a reasonable time frame. guess I will just be sure i have that 350.00 in there at all times.
That was a few days over 14 for you. I was sure it would at least come out by then.
Maybe because you didnt actually cancel your contract you found some sort of loophole?
Ok so I Spoke to a t-mobile rep and said that you have to return the phone to google first, then I can cancel the contract. Darn, looks like im going to have to do it the long way, ship back and wait then buy unsubsidized :-(
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Yea that was my original plan but wouldnt it technically be the same price without all the wait?
I paid $180.00 then decided i didnt want the contract so cancel that and pay google the $350.00 to make it $530.00 total.
EDIT- I should clarify I already have the EM+ plan and added a line. I want to keep the EM+. Just cancel the new line I opened.
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The Google terms say that "this is just an equipment recovery fee" or something like that and go on to say "your provider may also charge you a cancellation fee". Check on that because the $350 is just what you pay Google, but T-Mobile can also charge you.
It may be that they don't, the Google terms don't say that they definitely will, they just say that their charge is independent of any cancellation charges, so don't assume that the $350 is the only charge you might pay...
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The Google terms say that "this is just an equipment recovery fee" or something like that and go on to say "your provider may also charge you a cancellation fee". Check on that because the $350 is just what you pay Google, but T-Mobile can also charge you.
It may be that they don't, the Google terms don't say that they definitely will, they just say that their charge is independent of any cancellation charges, so don't assume that the $350 is the only charge you might pay...
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well its a new line so I can cancel within 14 days with no charge. I discussed this with a Rep and I pretty much just have to send it back, cancel the added account, get my refund and then buy it unsubsidized so I can stay on my EM+ plan.
Call T-mobile and cancel the line
Since Google sold you the phone, just call T-mobile and cancel the line. If they say that you have to send the phone back just tell them you already returned it to Google. ( normally when you buy a phone from a t-mobile store with the subsidy and contract, you have to return the phone before you can cancel the account). Because the handset return is not going through T-Mobile they have no way of tracking the return to Google.
I am not sure how long it will take Google to charge your account, I would assume it will be fairly quickly after the 14 days or cancellation but it could be months. If Google is waiting on T-Mobile to pay them the commission for activating your new line it could be months. T-Mobile commissions are paid to 3rd party dealers a month behind. Google gets paid for your activation in February if you activated in January. Because of that it may take a while before you get charged for not keeping the new line. This is also why you have to keep the new line for 120 days, that is the charge back period for 3rd party dealers with T-Mobile (if you cancel within 120 days, Google looses the money from T-Mobile)
Just to clarify... if you cancel a new T-mobile line within the first 120 days, Google will charge their ERF. They have your credit card on file and you agreed to letting them charge it again if you cancel.
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Ok here is a dumb question. I currently have a G1 under contract and am considering getting a N1. Since I am on a cheap family plan I don't want to get the $80/mo plan that is the only option. It is cheaper for me to pay the $566 (after tax) and get the unsubsidized phone.
However...
I was looking at something today. If I sign up for a new line as a new customer (the family plan is in my wife's name) the phone is $180. Sure I am stuck with the 80/ mo bill. But here is my thought. The phone has a 14 day return policy. After that I am stuck paying the $200 termination fee. It would be cheaper for me to get the phone that way.
I pay $180 (plus tax) + $80 for the first month = $260 Plus taxes
After the 14 day return period call T-mobile, cancel and pay the $200 termination fee.
That would mean the phone would only cost me about $460 (plus taxes) not $566. Then I could just move my sim from my G1 over to the N1 and keep using it.
What am I missing here? It looks like it is a cheaper option to get the same thing. The only thing I can think of missing out on is the insurance. I can't imaging it would do anything with my warranty because I still own it and I am buying from Google.
youre missing the fact that if you cancel your 80$ plan before 120 days, google will charge you the difference between the unsubsidized phone (unless you send the phone back). meaning 529 - 180 = 349$ in addition to the early termination fee and maybe even 80$ for the first month.
Straight from google terms of sale:
Maintaining Carrier Service
If you choose to enroll in a carrier’s wireless service plan, you must agree to the carrier’s terms and conditions, which will be presented during the enrollment process.
If you do not wish to keep the wireless plan, it is your responsibility to contact the carrier to cancel your wireless plan account. You should contact the carrier directly regarding any activation fees, monthly usage costs, taxes, and/or early termination fees that may be owed.
You agree to pay Google an equipment subsidy recovery fee (the "Equipment Recovery Fee") equal to the difference between the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device if you cancel your wireless plan prior to 120 days of continuous wireless service. For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service. The Equipment Recovery Fee is equal to the line item in your confirmation email setting forth the discount on the full priced Nexus handheld device related to your carrier service plan activiation. You authorize Google to charge the Equipment Recovery Fee directly to your credit card, or other payment method used to purchase the Nexus handheld device, upon cancellation of your wireless plan. You will not be charged the Equipment Recovery Fee if you return your Nexus handheld device to Google within the 14 day Return Policy period as set forth below.
You agree that the Equipment Recovery Fee is not a penalty but is for liquidated damages Google will incur as a result of such cancellation. These damages may include, but are not limited to, loss of compensation and administrative costs associated with such cancellation or changing of wireless service provider(s), market changes, and changes in ownership. Please note that the Equipment Recovery Fee is imposed by Google and not your chosen carrier and is in addition to any early termination fees that may be charged by your chosen carrier in connection with termination of your wireless plan prior to fulfillment of your chosen carrier’s service agreement term.
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youre missing the fact that if you cancel your 80$ plan before 120 days, google will charge you the difference between the unsubsidized phone (unless you send the phone back). meaning 529 - 180 = 349$ in addition to the early termination fee and maybe even 80$ for the first month.
Straight from google terms of sale:
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OK thanks. I hadn't seen that. I figured I must be missing something in what I was looking at.
I had read the T-mobile Terms and Conditions of Service but didn't see the link for the Google Terms of Sale which was further down on a separate link.
That helps. I couldn't figure out why others hadn't bought their phone in this manner as it would save almost $100. I figured I couldn't be the only one that thought of this. Google thought of it as well. Oh well I will most likely just go with the $566 route. I am just waiting now to find out what I got for a bonus from work.
cheaper way to go
Hey, your absolutely right. I actually did something similar to get the G1 in the begining. The only difference is that if you have a warranty issue that needs replacement you have to ship your phone to the manufacturer direct they will look at it and if the issue isnt caused by the EU then they fix or replace the device. Whole process takes about 5 days. Iff It is an issue that you created they call you with a repair estimate. On the off chance you decide not to fix your phone then they charge you a 28 dollar fee for looking at the phone and return shipping. Hope this was helpful.
Not sure about the subsidized charge. I wasn't charged one.
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Hey, your absolutely right. I actually did something similar to get the G1 in the begining. The only difference is that if you have a warranty issue that needs replacement you have to ship your phone to the manufacturer direct they will look at it and if the issue isnt caused by the EU then they fix or replace the device. Whole process takes about 5 days. Iff It is an issue that you created they call you with a repair estimate. On the off chance you decide not to fix your phone then they charge you a 28 dollar fee for looking at the phone and return shipping. Hope this was helpful.
Not sure about the subsidized charge. I wasn't charged one.
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someone only read the first post ...
I remember when people got up-in-arms over Google charging the subsidy difference alongside the early termination fee. I think it's the only thing they can do that makes sense...
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someone only read the first post ...
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yeah.... the only thing I can say about this is that the G1 is made by HTC and not Google so that is why my comment is most probably wrong. I used to work for VZW and T-mo though and know that the Fees that can be charged and the ones that are are not necessarily the same. It does make sense that Google would charge a subsidary though.
Im planning to sign up for t-mobile contract and pay 179 for the N1. Once I get the phone, i will cancel the contract on the first day and pay $150 to google. T-mobile should charge me anything because I cancel within the 14 days period. My total cost to obtain the phone is only 329 compared to 529. Anyone see a flaw in this strategy?
Yeah...
If you sign up with T-mo the phone comes locked to T-mo.
PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!!!
Than search google and find this site >>> http://gizmodo.com/5446146/canceling-a-nexus-one-contract-costs-more-than-a-nexus-one
And on another google search (use it, its very useful)
You'll have to pay an Early Termination Fee to both your carrier, and Google.
While your carrier's ETF may vary ($200 for T-Mobile), Google's is equal to the full price of the Nexus One, minus the service plan and the $180 you paid upon signing up. This ETF only applies if you cancel your line within the first 120 days of service. It appears to be set up to make the idea of scamming carriers for cheap phones even less attractive.
Should of told him it was a great idea...
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Im planning to sign up for t-mobile contract and pay 179 for the N1. Once I get the phone, i will cancel the contract on the first day and pay $150 to google. T-mobile should charge me anything because I cancel within the 14 days period. My total cost to obtain the phone is only 329 compared to 529. Anyone see a flaw in this strategy?
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There is more to it than that. If you cancel inside the grace period, you just send back the N1 and pay for days used.
If you do what you want, keep the phone, you also pay T-Mobile a handset recovery fee of $200. So, you would end up paying 529, plus tax, plus proration and your N1 would be locked to T-Mobile.
Sounds like a very flawed logic.
Yeah I was tempted lol
This would work because tmo wont charge an etf if you cancel within 14 days and google will only charge $150 if you keep the nexus.
I was under the assumption that the T-Mobile ETF is only charged after the 14 days?
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This would work because tmo wont charge an etf if you cancel within 14 days and google will only charge $150 if you keep the nexus.
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Exactly. I thought google only charge you 150 for ETF instead of 350. Didnt goodle change the EFT from 350 to 150 couple weeks ago?
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Exactly. I thought google only charge you 150 for ETF instead of 350. Didnt goodle change the EFT from 350 to 150 couple weeks ago?
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Even so, that puts you at $530 (which seems logical but your not gonna make anything and have a lot of extra work)
How did you get 530?. You pay $179 for the phone and 150 for google ETF. Unless t-mobile charge you 200 for ETF but this wouldnt happen because you cancel it within 14days period.
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How did you get 530?. You pay $179 for the phone and 150 for google ETF. Unless t-mobile charge you 200 for ETF but this wouldnt happen because you cancel it within 14days period.
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Sorry I put the whole T-Mobile etf...so it comes out too $380 with the $50 T-Mobile etf
You people think found found a loophole in a collaboration between two mega corporations?
T-mobile requires notification from Google that you send the phone back if you wish to cancel your contract.
this is the internet, the land where your good idea was somebody else's idea weeks or months ago...
You guys don't seem to understand...
If you keep the phone after canceling you pay:
$180: Phone
$150: Google ETF
$200: T-Mobile un-returned equipment fee
$?: Prorated usage
Add that up, you get $530, plus the proration, and you have a locked Nexus One.
Now, if you decide you don't like the phone and take advantage of the 14 day return/cancel window and return the phone you pay:
$?: Proration
You don't get any ETF's, or equipment charges(assuming the phone is in like new condition). But you also don't get to keep the phone, and google can charge you a restocking fee (which I think they do, but am not certain, if they do that is another $45 for testing out the phone for a couple days)
Big surprise, Google and T-Mobile are smart enough to prevent you from gaming them. Crazy thought, I know!
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If you sign up with T-mo the phone comes locked to T-mo.
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Actually all of the nexus one's are unlocked. You can put any sim card in it.
No there not my buddy has one subsidized took his sim out put his ATT sim in no luck
Don't forget that they can blacklist the IMEI. Doh!
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You guys don't seem to understand...
If you keep the phone after canceling you pay:
$180: Phone
$150: Google ETF
$200: T-Mobile un-returned equipment fee
$?: Prorated usage
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I didn't know T-Mobile charged any "un-returned equipment fee". Not that I would try to do anything like this anyway but why would they charge "un-returned equipment fee" if you didn't buy equipment from them? Seems about as shady as somebody buying a subsidized phone just to cancel.
ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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You sure you don't have to return the phone to T-Mobile? Subsidized phones have to be returned or the ETF has to be paid to the carrier (plus google's $150 equipment recovery fee) if the contract is canceled. Feel free to try it, but I would suspect you get charged for the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622306
I like how they're "cheap ****s" yet you're the one trying to scam them out of getting the full price of the phone
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
cymru said:
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
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Cheap ****s?
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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If you said "I plan to get it, then cancel, and then use the phone on my family plan" then that would make sense as they have already been helpful for people who are trying to get these phones on their family plans at less than full price - though I think there are possibly even cheaper ways of doing it that don't involve paying another $150 to Google.
If you said "If I cancel within 14 days will I pay anything?" then they may have said "No" assuming that you would be returning the phone to google which are the standard terms of cancelling under the buyer's remorse clause.
But, did you call T-Mobile and say "I am going to order this phone, then cancel the contract within 14 days and I will *not* be returning the phone to Google"? If so, then they should have told you that they will charge the $200 unless you return the phone.
The entire reason Google dropped the "equipment recovery fee" from $350 to $150 was because of this $200 that T-Mobile collects from you. You can avoid both by returning the phone within 14 days. You can avoid neither by cancelling and keeping the phone, no matter what the time frame is.
Hey flarbear i told tmobile that i am not returning the phone, and they said that they have nothing to do with the phone bc i bought it form Google not them. I mean i have called them 4 times to make sure of this. I don't understand why everyone on this site is getting mad about this if this works it is good for all. also in the term of sale it says to connect the provider to get their termination fee and i am going by that.
I got mine for $330 because I have my own plan and don't live off my parents.
Just saying, what you're planning on doing constitutes fraud. Something that is a rather serious offense, and if found out could lead to much more than that extra ~$140 that you're "saving". Also, as part of buyers remorse, you must return the phone in order to qualify. And even if Tmo isn't selling you the phone directly, a partner is. And since Tmo is the subsidized partner, they're even more willing to charge you extra fees since they make money off the fees and plans, not the phones.
On a different note, if they are truly, without confusion, maliciously deceiving you, then its a whole different ball game.
ps. Your horrific English may have also confused them.
Actually its not fraud. Everything he is doing is totally legal.
It may be against the spirit of the deal google/T-Mobile are offering, but there is absolutely nothing illegal about it. Which part would you say is illegal and which law specifically would relate to it?
It would be fraud if he were buying the phone and saying it was stolen when it wasnt. I would be fraud if he lied to T-Mobile and said that the phone was broken and that's why he is cancelling. In this case he has a right to pay the ETF and terminate early as per the terms of the sale. He is not obligated to disclose why, or even enter into the sale more inclined to keep it than not.
Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
I assume you'll be cancelling your credit card or whatever payment you made with it.
Way to go thief.
google's terms of sale said:
For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service.
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179 + 350 = 529
Then you have t-mobile fees for not returning your device after being "unsatisfied".
tmobile said:
4. Cancellation and Returns. You can cancel your Service without paying an Early Termination Fee if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating a new line of Service (30 days if you activate in California; other states may differ "“ ask your sales representative) ("œReturn Period"). You remain responsible to pay for the Service and all charges, fees and taxes incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel during the Return Period, you must return to the store where you activated (or, if purchased online or by phone, follow the return instructions in the package), and return any Device you acquired at the time of activation. To receive a refund of the purchase price of your Device (less rebates received and shipping costs), you must return it (with original packaging and all contents) within the Return Period in undamaged condition and good working order to the place of purchase. You may be required to pay a restocking fee. If you do not comply with store policy, we may elect not to process your Service cancellation or you may be charged the suggested retail price of the Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. If you activated your Service through an authorized T-Mobile dealer, the dealer"™s return policy may differ from T-Mobile"™s policies.
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Techinally both t-mobile AND google can come after you for the full price of the phone, meaning 529 x2.
Matter of fact, I encourage you to attemp this little theft, I'd love to see real world repercussions.
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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t mobile nor google has any say so on how much tax they want to charge you
I don't understand why you guys are getting mad and attacking his character when you have a problem with his method. He is trying to test out a potential loophole. That is not illegal or fraud, just trying to beat the system.
we have these things called casinos for such endeavors..
While I find the action morally questionable at best, given the changes in Google's terms of sale for the Nexus One it would probably work. You are entering a contract with a premeditated plan to immediately break it to your benefit. It is at the very least a violation of good faith terms but this may or may not be actionable. Even if it is actionable the chances of either party (T-Mo or Google) bothering is not high.
Prior to the changing of the wording there was little doubt you would pay the full price, but they changed the terms due to the outrage at the "double dipping" return fee.
I have no issue with the OP, I just found it rather ironic considering the thread topic that he was upset google had the audactiy to charge him tax on the full retail price and that they were being cheap. I still don't think this would work considering the whole google "if you change/cancel your plan within 120 days you'll be charged the full price of the phone" deal, but if they've changed the wording I say go for it and be the guinea pig.
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Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
179 + 350 = 529
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You should look into this again. Google lowered this fee from the original $350 down to $150. When it was at $350 it was obvious that you would be paying more, but now that they have it at $150 it is no longer so obvious.
Well, I certainly woke up to a pleasant surprise. I've been stuck with having to buy the Evo on Wirefly to claim a hundred dollar savings I had won, only to see that the final price is thirty dollars lower than I expected! You pay $169.99 with a 35 dollar activation fee. There's no taxes, and the FedEx shipping is free.
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I have used Wirefly 3 times before and they are great! I am impatient and do not want to wait for my phone this time though haha
That sounds pretty awesome! I'm going to have to see what I can do with this one.
If ordering from them do you know if I can port a phone number?
ViViDboarder said:
That sounds pretty awesome! I'm going to have to see what I can do with this one.
If ordering from them do you know if I can port a phone number?
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Yes, you can port your phone number through them. I transferred my parent's and brother's numbers from Metro PCS to the Sprint phones without a problem.
I wonder what will happen if someone tries to upgrade who is not eligible for an upgrade and who is still on contract. I went through the motion of buying it there and the final price came to $180 or something. Wonder what would happen after I get the phone.
too bad you cant add a discount to the plans through wirefly..
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too bad you cant add a discount to the plans through wirefly..
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Yeah I wish we could add a discount to the plans through wirefly as I would get it through them if that were possible.., unless someone knows a way?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Yeah I wish we could add a discount to the plans through wirefly as I would get it through them if that were possible.., unless someone knows a way?
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can't you just call up sprint once your order is processed to add the discount? nowhere in their terms state you can't add discount; it says you can't switch to a lower service plan, but adding a discount isn't lowering the service plan
here's the terms of their instant discount:
INSTANT DISCOUNTS
Wirefly promises you savings in the form of instant discounts with no rebates or gimmicks when you sign up for wireless carrier service. Delivering on this promise means that you must agree to maintain your agreement for a minimum of 6 months after activation. Deactivating your phone, or downgrading features or the rate plan, may lead to additional charges.
When you sign up for wireless carrier service through Wirefly, we discount your phone purchase price by an Equipment Discount amount ranging from $200 to $300. By ordering through Wirefly, you agree to repay this discount if, during the 181 days after your new equipment is activated, if you:
Fail to pay your balance due to your carrier each month
Disconnect this line of service
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Change your carrier service rate plan to a lower monthly service rate plan
Deactivate the email/data feature if one was required at the point of purchase
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Replace an existing account with this account if this is a new line of service
Return or exchange your phone and it is not in its original, new condition with no more than 30 minutes of usage
If you break any of these contract provisions, except as a result of a documented service quality issue related to the carrier service, you authorize us to charge your credit card in repayment of the Equipment Discount.
EDIT: they changed the price to $189.99
As of 4:30 this afternoon, Wirefly has officially run out of HTC Evos. The site lists the next shipment time in five to seven days. Fortunately, I was able to get my order placed at 4:00. Unless you really want that $50 rebate, I'd look toward other stores.
These things are selling out an alarming rate.
Now it says shipping within 20 days...
Oh man. Still $50 is probably worth it considering I still have my iPhone for the time being.
i know letstalk is getting shipment June 10, but they still have backorders they need to fulfill; don't know any other place where i can get it without waiting for the mail in rebate
sprint online store has them in stock and can receive in 2-5 days, but not willing to pay $1049 now and have to wait for rebates for 2-4 months
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Wirefly is awesome but never call and place an order over the phone.
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Wirefly is awesome but never call and place an order over the phone.
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You couldn't be more correct. I stupidly placed the order for my parents and brother via Wirefly's sales department via phone, and it was a horrendous experience. It took over an hour for the idiot to understand what I wanted, write my name down properly, and to shut up about the extended warranty and accessories.
That being said, that's what the online store is for. It's just like the rest of them.
Also, wow. Shipping within 20 days? I was 15 minutes away from having to wait a month for my Evo to arrive? Insane.
I got lucky and got my order in before they raised the price. 169 + 50 bing cash back plus avoiding 45$ in taxes here in CA. It arrives tomorrow =).
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I got lucky and got my order in before they raised the price. 169 + 50 bing cash back plus avoiding 45$ in taxes here in CA. It arrives tomorrow =).
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Holy crap, shut up! Mine is arriving tomorrow as well! . Of course, I placed my order when it was back at $189.99, but it's still a great deal.
Any idea what'd happen if I tried to order this even though I'm not eligible for an upgrade from Sprint? I'm trying to see if I can grab one of these to participate in development. Although, I'm not sure I'm willing to blow $450 for the privilege.
Ok. I'm on Wirefly and I want to add this phone as a new line on a family plan.
I am seeing:
Service Plan: $9.99/month
Sprint Data Pack - mobile web, web-based email, and basic Sprint TV/Music: $15.00/month
4G Premium Data: $10.00/month
What's that $15/month part? If my family is already on the Any Mobile Any Time with data included, is that required?
I want to try and put this in ASAP!
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Any idea what'd happen if I tried to order this even though I'm not eligible for an upgrade from Sprint? I'm trying to see if I can grab one of these to participate in development. Although, I'm not sure I'm willing to blow $450 for the privilege.
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It does look like I can get this for $189 (+$50 bing cashback) if I select that I would like to extend my contract with Sprint. I'm a little curious about this, you'd think that I shouldn't be able to do this, but at the same time Wirefly probably has no idea that I started my contract in November 09. I'm just worried about what happens when I get the phone! Is no one the wiser? Do people just not know? Maybe I should try this out and give you all an update as to the outcome. I'm willing to bet if there's some kind of foul up and a cancellation charge appears on my account, I could possibly settle it with Sprint feigning ignorance. It's not like I want to jump ship or anything after all, I like Sprint.
Hope you find out. I'm on my hero and not due for upgrade or anything... I wanna upgrade to evolution from hero, but don't have hundreds of dollars
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I know this has been discussed vaguely. However, I can't find any information on whether the same policy applies to month-to-month contracts. I went through the Verizon site and fine print to no avail.
AFAIK, the Worry Free Guarantee Verizon has ensures that if you cancel your new contract before 30 days.. though I read somewhere it's 60 days, you avoid any ETF fees and pay restocking/pro-rated monthly fee. This makes me think that the only way to cancel the data plan in the first month.. say as you walk out of Best Buy , you must return the device? I will pay the month if I must, but I would like some more solid info ahead of time. Thoughts?
Thing is, I think that guarantee is only for items on a contract. The Xoom isn't on a contract and is only month-to-month. Yes, you can cancel the service, but you don't have to return the Xoom.
Some have even said if you cancel within 72 hours (3 days) that the activation fee is even refunded, but that I doubt since it's at the discretion of the seller / activator, not the provider (Verizon) right? The $20 for the month of service I can see refunded, but can't imagine the activation fee would be.
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Thing is, I think that guarantee is only for items on a contract. The Xoom isn't on a contract and is only month-to-month. Yes, you can cancel the service, but you don't have to return the Xoom.
Some have even said if you cancel within 72 hours (3 days) that the activation fee is even refunded, but that I doubt since it's at the discretion of the seller / activator, not the provider (Verizon) right? The $20 for the month of service I can see refunded, but can't imagine the activation fee would be.
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Yea I just wish I could find some solid information on that. There is info on the 2 year contract guarantee, but I can't find squat on the month-to-month refund. I also wonder how reasonable they will be about it. I don't want to pay for even 1 day of data because of data used during activation. The first thing I plan to do is turn off the 3G.
I don't know about the activation fee. I doubt it since under a 2 year contract you still pay the activation fee if you return it within the grace period.
This whole thing is driving me a little nuts to be honest. I really wish they would just announce as a surprise that they would release a WiFi only version the same time as the 3G. I am quite shocked that Google would allow their first tablet to be an 800$ tablet that cost 200$ more than a WiFi only version because of the 3g/4g and be on the most expensive carrier in the states. When they used T-Mobile for their first phone I thought it was because they were smart and wanted consumers to have affordable options. Like the revolutionary idea of offering a 20$ discount on monthly service if you purchased the phone unsubsidized. I think it should be illegal to charge the same price on a unsubsidized device or that when a 2 year contract ends, your price should go down if you don't get a new subsidized device.
Verizon missed out on the iPhone, and they have regretted it ever since. Because of that they seem to be getting exclusives on EVERYTHING now. The xoom, the xperia play. Everything I have been excited about has been Verizon, or the second worse AT&T. I know that lack of significant exclusivity is probably one of the reasons Sprint is cheap, but after the Kyocera announcement I wonder if the CEOs of some of these companies are actually retarded. Who thought that was a good idea. Okay I'm off topic..
If I'm not mistaking verizon just changed their policy to 14 days. As said though the xoom will be month to month.
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When I worked for Verizon and T-mo, if you cancelled w/in the specific time period there was no activation fee or data fee. Activation fees typically comes on the first bill, not through whoever is selling it - so to my understanding you should be able to cancel after walking out the door and not have to pay for either of them - but I guess I'll find out Thursday for sure. You won't have to return the device either if you are not buying it on contract.
Also, I highly doubt you will find info from Verizon/motorola/best buy about the month to month. They don't want you to know you can cancel and not pay them, plus best buy doesn't get paid on it unless you keep the data for at least 2 months.
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When I worked for Verizon and T-mo, if you cancelled w/in the specific time period there was no activation fee or data fee. Activation fees typically comes on the first bill, not through whoever is selling it - so to my understanding you should be able to cancel after walking out the door and not have to pay for either of them - but I guess I'll find out Thursday for sure. You won't have to return the device either if you are not buying it on contract.
Also, I highly doubt you will find info from Verizon/motorola/best buy about the month to month. They don't want you to know you can cancel and not pay them, plus best buy doesn't get paid on it unless you keep the data for at least 2 months.
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Good to know. I suppose that reintroduces the question of how is the wifi locked. Is it actually locked in some way that has to be unlocked OTA... I can't see this being the case because what about 6 months down the road when you have to do a factory restore. You can't be expected to pay for service just to use the device again.
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Good to know. I suppose that reintroduces the question of how is the wifi locked. Is it actually locked in some way that has to be unlocked OTA... I can't see this being the case because what about 6 months down the road when you have to do a factory restore. You can't be expected to pay for service just to use the device again.
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I'm thinking it not actually "locked." I think they are just saying you have to buy data with it, could be wrong though. If it is actually locked, use the data connection to get the OTA than call and cancel. I can't imagine they would lock out wifi for a full month - one gig isn't much.