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Pocket Radio and FM Transmitter (interference problem)

So here's my story. Basically, I got Resco's Pocket Radio on my phone. I use it to stream internet radio (obviously) and I wanted to use it with a FM transmitter in my car. I got this. It works great, except that if the phone gets too close to the transmitter part, I get this crazy interference on the phone or the stereo. I am positive this is from the wireless downloading that is happening to stream the internet. Basically what i'm asking is, is there is a way to REDUCE the amount of interference? Are there some tricks or something to accomplish this?

does that plug come with an adapter for the input jack... as the wizard has a smaller input jack... did you have to buy one or does this plug right into it?

c-pimp said:
does that plug come with an adapter for the input jack... as the wizard has a smaller input jack... did you have to buy one or does this plug right into it?
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no I bought a little adapter from radio shack.

haha i have the same problem... what i was thinking is trying to get an extension on the wire and putting the transmitter further away...

theshrink said:
haha i have the same problem... what i was thinking is trying to get an extension on the wire and putting the transmitter further away...
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I already did that and it helped TONS, but my radio antenna on my car is in the back, and my phone and stuff is in the front of the car. So like, even like forcing the signal to the back of the car or something?

well probably the further the better ... and the transmitters usually work much further than your car is long. just out of curiosity which one do you have and how far away is your phone from it? I bought some crappy one and it works ok in my sister's car but horrible in mine and my house...

Aerial Socket "discovery"

Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G

Aerial sockets? Can we see some pics please?

I'd be interested in more info on this as well.
Do you know what type of connector it uses?
Any ideas on the reliability of the connections, they look as though they could be flimsy?
Have you tried to see if they improve the Wi-Fi signal at all?
And the ultimate question, what aerial is it that you bought?
Thanx in advance,
Pug.

gquipster said:
Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
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I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.

jasonkruys said:
I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
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And are these avaiable off the shelf yet??
Mav

Aerial I bought and more...
Well to answer the important question of what aerial I bought it was this one:
http://www.mobilephonecrazy.com/modeldetail/xda-exec,Signal_Enhancer.htm
I mainly bought it for the car - driving through Windsor Great Park the signal is a bit dubious at places so bought this to improve it.
I've actually downgraded the radio stack on the phone to 1.09 recently as 1.13 seemed to have problems with the UMTS signal - in places where everyone else was getting a good UMTS signal I was getting 0 to 1 bars at most - and it does seem better now, but the built-in aerial of the Exec doesn't seem very good at all - hopefully the successor will have a better antenna!
The above aerial I think is a fairly standard aerial but the important thing as far as we are concerned is that it came with a 50cm fly lead that has a socket for the aerial at one end and a plug that goes into the back of the Exec at the other - it came in a little plastic bag marked "SPV M5000" - I'm not an electronics expert I'm afraid so can't tell anyone the actual type of plug but I'll photograph it tonight if anyone is interested.
Right I have to drive to work - have a good day everyone!

Hi,
It looks like a great find. Can you comment on how good the aerial is? Does it really do a good job of increasing signal strength and if so by how much on average?
Does it give you a signal in places you didnt used to get a signal before?

It would be great if you can post the results of your "discovery".
I have a really crap signal in my office and need to balance my phone on top of a lamp to get just 1 bar....
Also you might want to move this to the accessory board?

Any chance on some feedback for this aerial?
I really want to sort my reception problem out and would like to know how your aerial performs before wasting money...
Thnks

I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G

gquipster said:
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
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Bummer chap, hope you get sorted.
Mav

OK looks like I wil take the chance and buy an aerial anyway.
I will let you know....

Sorry about the uni
Dude sory to hear about the uni getting robbed. I also live in windsor so will keep an ear to the ground for anyone selling/getting rid of a uni.
But back to the thread.
I work in a second world war hangar with 3ft thick walls, so reception is nill.
After looking into wifi a little while back, I was making an external wifi antenna for my uni for use around home and work (very basic just a pice of wire and a wooden pole). When I plugged it in to my uni I found that the network signal (not the wifi) reception went up to 3 bars from nothing.
I have plugged the antenna in the wrong connector.
so after cocking up I have solved a problem with the signal but not the wifi.
All I used was a 10mtr pice of coax (50hm). A standard female uhf tv conector and this is the important bit, a 36mm copper rod from the centre of a power cable. Fit this in the uhf connector and point it upward like an aerial. connect the coax to the uhf connector.
Then on the other end strip the coax down to the centre core strands and snuggly slot them in the connection on the back of your uni.
Thats it!!!
Now i said it was basic!! but it does work despite the amount of cable.
If anyone would like photos I will take them toinight and try to pop them on my web site. But for now I can e-mail untill its up and running. [email protected]
If anyone would like some of the coax (I get it from work) and are near the Windsor area, feel free to e-mail me and we can sort getting some to you. (free as we are all in the same boat here).
My next project will be a car mounted type. watch this space!!

Found this on the wiki:
http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=408
This is just a connector, you still need an external antenna, which you can find on this site as well. If you poke around the site there is also a 3w bi-directional amp which boosts range up to 50 miles.(85km) It only works on 2 frequencies, and I don't know which is which, so I'm not sure what it's good for.

Kaiser car kits?

Is there a decent one out there that will accomodate the screen being opened, will hold it landscape as well as portrait etc...
Info please...

Hermes car kit for the Kaiser?
Can anybody tell me if the current Hermes car kits will fit the Kaiser?

I contacted Proclip and the said they have them in production and will have them no later then November but hopefully sooner. They are in my opinion the best out there.......no I don't work for them!
www.proclipusa.com

Brodit said a similar thing to me in an email. A couple of weeks.

Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.

3waygeek said:
Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Since they sell only to wholesalers...how do you propose we buy from them?

I don't -- just providing a preview of coming attractions.

This universal kit works well ... especially when you want the keyboard out
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-PDA-Phone-H...yZ130797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.

Never had a car kit before, always had a pocket in my car perfect for a phone. Changed car now though and need some sort of holder. Also want to do away with my Bluetooth headset.
Does a kit exist where you put the phone in the cradle, and it both charges and connects to a car head unit/microphone. Obviously not for the Kaiser yet, but if its available for other phones, it will for this in time.
Know some executive cars have this built in and some companies cater for the aftermarket, but they seem to want hundreds. Am capable of installing said kit, just need a place to buy!

How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.

gogol said:
Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
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The man speaks the truth - i nearly crashed as i swerved trying to catch my bloody Uni!
lol
dangerous things.. need an alternative!

I like this one
http://www.kidigi.com/Car CHT 9000.asp
as it is much smaller than the mounts which also contain a speaker built into the mount itself. I find these to be fugly and way too bulky.
Also, this is easier to take apart on the end holding the speaker and wire around it so I can run it into my AUX jack in the car. I also have a mic tucked away above the rear view mirror, have wired a spare power socket in the glove box, and tuck the wires under a kuda mount on the dash. It's a very clean look and almost appears original equipment.
All I do is cradle my phone when I get in the car and I have MP3 tunes through the stereo. When a call comes in, I just hit the answer button on the phone and the mic kicks in, while the call comes through the speakers. IMO, better than BT because I can also play my MP3s wihtout having to resort to a downgraded music signal via an FM receiver.
I've been using a very similar setup with my 8125 and also pair to a Bluetooth GPS reciever, which will now be built into my soon to arrive Kaiser Works vey nice.
Downsides? Unless I put some kind of rotation dvice between the kuda mount and the kidigi, landscape mode is a no-go. Could possibly use the seidio model for this at the expense of some additional bulk, but it looks like they have stocked out (www.seidioonline.com). It's also pretty solidly mounted, so if you like the idea of a gooseneck that can be adjusted on the fly, the kuda would not work well.

funkstar said:
How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Was tempted by that, but if i need to run cables in the car to charge the phone, thought i might as well put one to the speakers/mic too. Im lazy too, dont want to get my phone out and turn bluetooth on and off every time i get in and out the car
Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?

Schooleydoo said:
Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!

I had wizard with which i was using holder from Herbert Richter system.
not being disappointed with the quality I'm buying another one for Kaiser.
gps4less have them on ebay for a nice price.

jgermuga said:
I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
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Sold!
So, i buy this, cut the speaker/charger off, i then need to extend the cables, one to a 12v, one to a mic and one to my aux in? Never tried anything like this before but willing to give it a shot. Any generic eBay mic do the job?

Car Holder
I have had good luck with Herbert Richter with my Vario and I have just bought the cradle for the Vario III and I imagine it will be just as good, they are great quality and do the job straight out of the box.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-MDA-...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone is interested. They do vent, bike, suction based holders so look at other items.
Russ

does anyone make a car adapter that is compatible with a weighted friction mount?
Garmin devices have this thing called a friction mount that is weighted. basically the underside is a soft rubber material that keeps the base from moving, and it is filled with about a pound (1/2 kilo for those across the pond) of sand. the base is very sturdy. i have taken many trips with this base with no movement at all.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Portab...5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191742690&sr=1-1

My guess is that Garmin are the only one that would likely make any further attachments as they hold the copyright etc, seeing as the HTC devices are competition for them in so much as the TomTom/Copilot route then I dare say it would only be 3rd party taiwanese/chinese companies that are likely to risk breaching the copyright to make such holders to fit on.
Russ

FM radio on aria

is there a way to create an app to turn the fm radio into a broadcaster.
just currious would be cool if there was a way to run it and use it to connect to car radio and use built in radio instead of getting an fm docking station.
Im sure its reciever only but never hurts to ask just in case there is someone out there with the knowledge to make it work if it was possible. kinda like a wireless card being turned into an ap.(i know they are not the same i was just using for an example of what i was talking about).

Although personally I do not think it is possible, since there is no hardware in there to do it, this would be a good idea for the phone manufacturer.

i run pandora,radiotime and the fm radio through my trucks sound system....for the fm radio to work the headphones are needed as an antenna but i found that if you plug a 6 inch or longer male to male 3.5mm audio cable from the phone to the line in of your cars sound system it works perfect(provided you have a line in)...basically all you need is any kind of audio line that can plug in to act as an antenna and not just the headphones....like i said the line i use is no longer than 6 inches and acts as a perfect antenna as well as the line to get sound through my trucks system...and streaming pandora or radiotime is perfect since my satellite system was recently stolen from my truck along with my gps system...#$%%#^$$^ thieves...so now the aria has definitely become my all in one and what is cool and off subject a little is i was able run the gps and stream pandora in the background with no problems...i am really liking this little beast of a phone...now if i can just figure out how to brew coffee with it..............

98,3MHz - phone is transmitting something?

My G2 broadcasts signal on 98,3MHz (or 98,25MHz, it depends on radio) - it's silent mono signal. It's not connected with CPU speed - the same radio frequency on both 804 and 1017MHz CPU speeds.
Has anyone else the same thing happening? You can check it by choosing 98,3MHz in phone's FM radio (should be silent) or putting phone very near to some other radio set to 98,3MHz.
Maybe there is some way to put some sound to this signal and make FM transmitter?

The truth is out there. I want to believe.

GSM radio going off?

Spec says fm transceiver. No one really knew if it had an antenna tho... I guess this answers that... now we just need software to control it
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If that thing I found is really FM transmitter, not some noise, it has no antenna. To receive it on any other radio you nearly have to touch phone to radio's antenna.

Have you tried it with the headphones plugged in? The cord usually works as an antenna.
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You are right - headphones act as antenna in this case too.
It's still very weak signal, but stronger with headphones connected.

If you perma root and install the desire z rrom from the forum you will have fm radio and yes it uses what ever is in the head phone jack as the antena .
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Anyone know if Cyanogen will have FM support for the G2?

bled82 said:
If you perma root and install the desire z rrom from the forum you will have fm radio and yes it uses what ever is in the head phone jack as the antena .
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It's not what we're talking about here.
We're talking about phone transmitting something that you can receive by other radios.
Is anyone's phone acting as mine? Can somebody check if it's transmitting something on any frequency?

I'll look at it on a network analyzer today and get back...

This may be a clue! (I'm pretty ignorant about this type of technology but when I read this it made me think about this thread)
Another tidbit that leaked out was that this phone had near field communications capabilities, meaning you could potentially replace your credit cards (something one of our trusted sources tells us Google was looking to do with these next couple of iterations of Android.) The phone he was holding was running on T-Mobile’s network, as well, lining up perfectly with what we learned from Best Buy’s blunder earlier last week. Score!
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Sorry Agent Mulder, better luck next time.
Put my phone up to my o-scope to check this out. The 'silence' you are 'hearing' is a 12.5% duty cycle square at -40dB. Adjusting clock speed affects both the fundamental and duty cycle. Conclusion:You are picking up fundamentals of the CPU PLL for clock speed generation. Sorry, your phone is not intentionally transmitting anything, much like the noise you hear when your phone is transmitting GPRS packets next to a poorly shielded speaker amp.