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Navigation on foot

Hi people
A quick question regarding navigation software. I know Tomtom and Navigon are good for driving and for walking round towns and cities but is there any software for off-road walking ?
I love walking and climbing on the fells in the Lake District etc. and it would be handy to be able to fire up the GPS just to check that I am where I think I am

I use oziexplorer for geocaching, so it should be fine for your purpose.
I know that you can download maps for other parts of the world from their website, but I never have ... so I can't say how good they are.
That having been said there are utilities on the site to convert other map formats to be used by oziexplorer.
The site is http://www.oziexplorer.com/

I'm also using OziExplorer for now. Before I go walking / geocaching I scan a paper map and convert the map with the tools that you can get on that site.
If you are using a SirfStar III GPS make sure you turn off static navigation otherwise, if you are walking slower than 4km/h, your map won't update until you have walked about 50 meters.

memory map is my preference, uses OS maps of all kinds as well as allowing adding in your own if you set up the long/lat of a fixed point on it, although ive found it better just to get the electronic os version as the image is far superior, the ahard work is done for you and you can search via place names etc.
also the "3d" images and "fly throughs" make for fun evenings*
*(yes i am a mapping anorak )

Yep, memory map is superb
Always fun to download your recorded route back onto your PC and view it in 3D

GPS2Google
There´s a very nice tool called GPS2Google.
It just records your GPS- data, which you can upload to googleEarth later on.
Here you have 3D . way description.
Very geek an easy tool.
Its not fpr navigating, but you can use it while using your standard navigation-programm thru a virtual - comport-doubler.
Have a look here http://www.s-gps.com/
ciao
Jo

Try Tracky at www.trackthisout.com
I've been in talks with the author and he has now put in the British Grid co-ordinates and the OSGB36 Map datum which means you can use it with Ordnace Survey maps (a big plus in this country)
Tracks can be recorded, overlayed on a scanned in section map and analyzed later.
Great UI too. I am not affiliated

Thanks for the input everybody. I tried OziExplorer but had problems with memory (not got big storage installed so it ran out of memory). Tried Memory Map but found I had downloaded the OS version which doesnt allow you to calibrate your own maps ! Seems I must get a copy from the US site that doesnt have these restrictions.
Not tried Tracky yet, just about to download.
Thanks once again everyone, its nice to know there are people out there who get out of the car once in a while At least I have some idea of whats out there.

Xperia from O2, no Google maps or Wayfinder?

Hi ................
I posted this question yesterday, but I might have posted in the wrong place, sorry!
I have the Xperia on contract from O2, excellent phone, I was under the impression that 'Google maps' and 'Wayfinder' were actually on the phone ready to use, Google maps I believe had a panel of it's own.
The phone I got last week didn't have either 'Google maps' or 'Wayfinder,' although an enclosed CD said 'Wayfinder' printed on the CD, it just contained Active sync and an electronic handbook.
I contacted Sony Ericson who informed me, that O2 had actually removed these utilities from the phone whilst branding it O2. I'd love to have Google maps, I even tried to install a panel for Google maps, but, it halted loading, saying it could not be installed on the Xperia!
Has anyone else had similar problems to this please?
Brian (Huddersfield)

m.google.com/maps in your xperia browser to easily download it for free - im pretty sure somewhere on the CD you will find Wayfinder - you just have to look through the folders if i recall

Hi .......
Thanks for the reply, no, I have searched both the phone and CD, it certainly is not there, when I tried to download Goole maps, a message box came up and said it cannot be installed on this Xperia!!?
As for Wayfinder, that is certainly not on the CD, but, apparently it was only a trial version anyway. That's not important as I use Co Pilot, it's just I'd like to use Google maps.
I installed it on my old XDA Orbit 2 and it works a treat, but, I suspect some kind of discovered software conflict, when O2 customise the Xperia for use on their network.
Anyone else in the same boat?
Brian (Huddersfield)

Comrade is exactly right on both points. You gotta search through the CD to find Wayfinder, and it's a bit counter-intuitive. But anyway, you probably shouldn't bother. Wayfinder is no good. You can actually get used to the poor interface and use it, but the big problem I found is lags. Turn-by-turn navigation at 65 MPH is no good when the phone is hanging as you speed past your intended turn. If you want something legal and downloadable, buy NDrive. It's very good.

Xperia from O2, no Google maps or Wayfinder!
....... I take it back about Wayfinder, Wayfinder is certainly not visible when using the 'O2' CD loader, but, browse the CD, under additional programmes, there is set of files named Wayfinder, strange that, you should have to manually search the CD for these install files.
As for Google maps, I searched and searched the Xperia many times looking for Google maps, when I tried to install directly from the Google site, I got a message box saying it could not be loaded onto this Xperia.
However, I found an eairler copy of Google maps compressed, I copied that to phone and it's up and running, I then tried to load it from a proper Google panel installed on the Xperia, it just hung, but, it seems to run fine by clicking on the Google file in programmes?
Anyone else here use the Xperia from O2?
Brian (Huddersfield)

try adding google maps to the start menu favarates.
dont use the panels they are rubbish.
ps. the new google maps has street view. i will check if i have the cab file and post it

this is the latest cab from the google website.
as for wayfinder, its not any good.
i use tomtom but that ndrive software is good too

Hello Ganodolf .........
Excellent, thanks for that, and it works a treat. I'd like to use Google maps in Thailand when I go in October, is it essential to have an internet connection for it to work? I'm not sure about GPRS or a high speed data connection when using a local SIM card (12 call) Thinking about it, I guess it does need a data connection, as it must load local maps for the location you are in I fear?
OK about Wayfinder, a few people have declared it as rubbish, I put Co Pilot on the Xperia and it seems to do the job, I'd like Tom tom, but can't afford it just yet.
Finally, what does it mean with Google maps, when they say street level?
Thanks
Brian (Huddersfield)

Horse Trader said:
Hello Ganodolf .........
Excellent, thanks for that, and it works a treat. I'd like to use Google maps in Thailand when I go in October, is it essential to have an internet connection for it to work? I'm not sure about GPRS or a high speed data connection when using a local SIM card (12 call) Thinking about it, I guess it does need a data connection, as it must load local maps for the location you are in I fear?
OK about Wayfinder, a few people have declared it as rubbish, I put Co Pilot on the Xperia and it seems to do the job, I'd like Tom tom, but can't afford it just yet.
Finally, what does it mean with Google maps, when they say street level?
Thanks
Brian (Huddersfield)
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street view: some citys in the uk (and around the world) have been photoed so that u can put in a address and seem to walk down the street and look around a street

.....That sounds amazing, on the Google maps I just installed from you, I looked where I live, here on the outskirts of Huddersfield (someone has to live here!!!) and I can zoom right into my house and see a view as if I was above the street maybe 100 feet or so, is that what you meant?
Brian (Huddersfield)

Horse Trader said:
.....That sounds amazing, on the Google maps I just installed from you, I looked where I live, here on the outskirts of Huddersfield (someone has to live here!!!) and I can zoom right into my house and see a view as if I was above the street maybe 100 feet or so, is that what you meant?
Brian (Huddersfield)
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yep thats the bad boy

............... Yes, it's amazing really, links with GPS like a dream, an excellent programme, thank you very much.
Are there any other worthwhile programmes for the Xperia, I installed the battery monitor that put a coloured line across the top of your screen to show battery level more accuraly, that's great too.
Brian (Huddersfield)

there is a battery icon set that make the x1 show battery in 1%s and it just overrides the original 10% (no program needed)
have a search in the x1 section u should find it with a how to install

Map Program that runs from the SD Card.

I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..

HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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CoPilot runs fromt he SD card, but that's a $30 navigation program, not just mapping.

Is there any GPS programs that we can get for free?

I do lots of traveling sometimes in areas that have very limited or no cell service so programs like MS Bing and Google Maps don't work here. I eventually settled on Navigon which stores a completes set of US maps on the SD card and will work regardless of cellular coverage. It works really well and turns the HD2 into what you would expect from a dedicated gps unit. Only downside is the cost, it's $90 but then again you get what you pay for.

somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..

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HTC-187 said:
somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..
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This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.

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This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.
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you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.

HTC-187 said:
you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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Both of the apps famewolf mentioned above will come very close to that (and are free), they just use a different map source. The second one he mentioned is actually called OpenMobileMaps, but it does use the OpenStreetMap.org's database. Here's the link for that one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597957
Now, I googled "caching google maps" (on the full 'net, not just xda), and the 3rd link that came up was this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001
I have no idea if it'll work on the HD2, but I think it's the closest possiblity available to exactly what you're looking for.

Also note that if you want stuff for free, you're going to have to do a little work. You will not find the easy installed, easy setup, works perfectly and exactly as you'd like it too apps that you can "sometimes" find in payware apps. With free apps, the more complex the app, the more fiddling and setup you'll have to do on your own.

HTC-187 said:
you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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My tone was sharp because you started out by asking for "hacked versions of these programs" and not for freeware/shareware. It's also generally considered polite to do a search via XDA first before requesting aid...you get even more help if you say "I did a search and found blah blah and blah but they are not giving me exactly what I'm looking for...anyone have more suggestions".
Another alternative that might work for you, but only if other folks are submitting map updates in your area is http://www.waze.com/
"Waze is a social mobile application providing free turn-by-turn navigation based on the live conditions of the road.
100% powered by users, the more you drive, the better it gets. "

Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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GPS w/turn-by-turn & can use offlie maps for hiking?
z3bum said:
Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
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I'm not new to XDA or PPC, but new to GPS software, jargon, and usage. So forgive me noob question, but I've been reading for days and still a little confused. Features and limitations and jargon on all these sites gets overwhelming. Basically, I'm looking for a GPS software that runs from SD as well, but with 3 more important features/questions:
1. turn-by-turn voice navigation for car use
2. load offline topography maps for hiking, maybe even geocaching/tracking w/altitude, speed, distance, etc.
3. search engine or preloaded POI searching
I understand iGo, TomTom, CoPilot do the car nav and I understand Navicomputer, OpenMobileMaps, and Litetrack do the offline maps and geocaching, but is their an app that does both. I think from the above post z3Bum stated Garmin XT does this so i'm wondering if I missed the big picture and all the 3rd party GPS apps have ability to view and load offline apps and maybe even have geocaching and tracking with all the distance, altitude, etc. goodies. And if so, do the 3rd party apps allow you to load only their maps (if they have them) or can you use maps from other sources?
Do I have to use 3 different apps to achive this (Google Maps = search, TomTom = voice turn-by-turn, NaviComputer = offline geocaching/tracking) or can I do all this with one app? I've been reading and learning for hours and a couple of days now, so I might just be burnt out and everything jumbled, so I apologize if this is an dumb question, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks and hopefully I have not taken post to far off topic.
Edit: got Garmin Mobile XT and it does everything I need it to do. Had to use a little workaround found on XDA to allow me to view multiple maps with Mobile Xt (city nav maps + topo maps) and now I'm happy as can be.

HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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iGo 8.3
It's nice navigation program. You have to pay for it. But google it, you will find it somewhere in a forum cheap

Navigator Maps - No Postcode entry?

I can't figure a way of using UK postcodes to enter a destination? Am I missing something? Or is the software basically useless?
Anyone with any pointers on how to do this? Please just tell me I am being dim. Otherwise I will stick with Copilot.

Sorry about the bump, but this is ridiculous!
Looking for PE22 0TU for example
OK, so if you enter a postcode (PE22 0TU) it won't find it. You then have to enter a partial postcode with no spacing (PE220), it won't find it.
But if you then press the blank result in the screen, not the search field, the bit that has an exclamation point followed by "Search for xxxx" it then comes up wiht a list of postcodes.
However, it is not the full list of postcodes and there are many it does not know about - PE22 0TU for one.
Absolute rubbish.

I'd like to know how to use it as well, as currently I find it pretty useless finding anything.

Got to agree, it's generally pretty crappy I think.

I've found this too. But Navigator doesnt bother me as much as it google maps though, where again it doesnt find postcodes for some reason. I've already got a tomtom so wont use navigator much, but google maps is (would be) great when i'm out and about in the city on foot.

agreed! atm I have paid ~£50 for the Navigon as it does postcode search and allows for traffic (i wasnt getting traffic thru copilot so i got a refund for it
it would also be nice to use Locations as it does not disappear when you get a phone call!
so far then it looks like i'm not the only one with this problem...at first i just wondered if i was missing how to do it.
I am not a programmer so dont know how easy this would be to implement:
Export the lat/long from Google maps into HTC Locations. This would require a data connection for a couple of minutes (while using Google maps) but would be a nice work around

reelist said:
I've found this too. But Navigator doesnt bother me as much as it google maps though, where again it doesnt find postcodes for some reason. I've already got a tomtom so wont use navigator much, but google maps is (would be) great when i'm out and about in the city on foot.
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That is really odd, because I have never had Google Maps not find a post code. Do you have an example?

reelist said:
I've found this too. But Navigator doesnt bother me as much as it google maps though, where again it doesnt find postcodes for some reason. I've already got a tomtom so wont use navigator much, but google maps is (would be) great when i'm out and about in the city on foot.
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I have been using Google Maps to navigate via post code and it was worked fine, I have had no trouble using postcode search within google maps, what happens when you try it?

i dont suppose any1 has found a solution to this yet? I've been trying hard but have come to nothing

I have just noticed this myself this morning.
I was really hoping to use the Navigation thing for all my satnav needs but without postcode entry its rubbish.
You can't even search for a street name without first putting in the city where it is.
Glad they give you a 30 day trial of it before needing to purchase.

I'm not having any problem with postcode entry in Navigator? Start navigating, select Set Destination and put the postcode in without spaces. Seems to work fine. I even tried PE22 0TU which was mentioned above and it locates and navigates to it fine.

Are you guys talking about navigation, (the google st nav), or locations/car panel, (the htc sat nav)?
Postcode in the htc one is rubbish and as you say doesnt work. Seems you have to type the address in and it finds it.
Postcode search on the google one works fine for me.
I wont be paying for the htc one after my 30 day trial is up, shame really as its a nice bit of kit but at the moment not very user friendly

Me, I'm just confused by the sheer number of navigation apps on the phone... Navigation, Car Panel, Location, Google Maps, Footprints...
But if you mean the app that is just called Navigator then it finds postcodes for me...
Search is too confusing too... Search Anywhere, Search People, Google Search, Search, Quick Lookup and then there's the search button...

Locations is the app made by HTC and TomTom in partnership. People everywhere are experiencing problems with it's post code search.
I am not sure who dropped the ball on this, HTC or TomTom, but until there is an update enabling this feature the application is virtually useless.
I have contacted HTC customer support and there only answer was, "it is a brand new application, released not so long ago and so, is still full of bugs."
Its not exactly nice to hear that when you have just paid over £400 for a phone.
Anyway... I remember that the TomTom in my car once lost all the post codes after an update. You can download a file from TomTom support and install it to regain post code search.
What I am hoping is that as the locations app does already support post code search, and is based on the TomTom maps/data, that some genius can add this full postcode database to the locations app.
I have no idea how to do this except what I have posted here. I'm hoping that some smart guy/girl will come along and do the hard part now!
I did post links to relevant information but apparently I dont have the right privileges to link external sites

UK Ordnance survey maps on our wmp8x :D

Hi All
Well as those of us in the UK know the mapping options for hillwalking etc are poor for us on WMP at the moment and those that do exist are frankly over priced pieces of rubbish that either have a poor os map or none at all!!!
So I looked around and didn't find a solution and then remembered a solution that I once used on WM5 before I started using Memory-Maps..
Tried it and works a damn treat and best of all it's FREE...
So here goes...
1)Firstly you will need to install Navicomputer from the market.. Get it set up and syncing with skydrive/onedrive..
2)Then get on Google and find MOBAC but one that still has the map-sources for ordnance survey maps it will be between version numbers 1.7 and 1.8. Not sure which one has it as my MOBAC is one have modded myself to included OS map-source and is app version 1.9.16.
3)Install it and then choose Ordnance Survey map-source and set to area you wish(TIP...use ovimap to choose/highlight large areas then switch to OS before you click add selection).
Make sure when you click new(to create file) you choose navicomputer. And let it do it's stuff.
Just beware as the files can be large depending on the amount of zoom levels you choose! and also move the Navicomputer and data to SDcard too!!!! (I use sense storage app to do this)
4)When finished simply upload the map file to skydrive, Yes I know there is a PC sync app for navicomputer but it simply doesn't work...
5)Now in navicomputer go to files click sync button, go to skydrive option and choose import offline maps. it will give you a list of map files(if you have created more than one) choose and download the required file and that's it..
You now have Ordnance Survey maps on the wmp!!!!
Best part is you can create as many maps as you wish and upload them to skydrive so you will always have access to them(if you have data/wifi access) and you can use any map-sources you wish so not limited to OS maps or OSM maps either...
Hope that helps you all..
If so please let me know and any further suggestions you have so can improve this little guide...
regards
Lohtse

No one finds this useful?

lohtse said:
No one finds this useful?
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ohh yes I find this useful but 90% just use Here map or (paid) navigon)
I for example use Navigon

But it is very good for topographic maps

Very useful indeed!

Happy its useful info
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Hi folks, is this still working for people? I'm on 1.8 and very very few tiles are showing up as OS. It looks like the application is falling back on open street map or some other "lesser" format. Thanks

frumpy said:
Hi folks, is this still working for people? I'm on 1.8 and very very few tiles are showing up as OS. It looks like the application is falling back on open street map or some other "lesser" format. Thanks
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pm me an email and will send you my mobac

frumpy said:
Hi folks, is this still working for people? I'm on 1.8 and very very few tiles are showing up as OS. It looks like the application is falling back on open street map or some other "lesser" format. Thanks
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Yes, I'm having similar issues, something seems to have changed on the back-end Bing website/service (where the old versions of MOBAC pulls the OS tiles from) in the last few months which has resulted in most of the tiles coming through in the standard Bing format rather than the OS. Strangely, some of the OS tiles seem to get through ok, and you can still get the OS tiles on the Bing website itself, so the imagery must still be available, just not served up the same way it used to be.