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unroot using only sd card?

Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.

bee976 said:
Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.
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Sorry to report, the only option of unrooting is RUU, and this requires HTC Synch and a definate recognition on your PCs part.
Suggestions, anyone?

What version of Windows are you running? I have had issues with Windows 7 in the past. As weird as it sounds once I loaded PDAnet from the market on to my phone and the PDAnet client onto my computer. My phone was recognized. Is your computer charging the phone when plugged in?

its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!

This brings up another question....
What does Sprint actually check?
Do you really have to get back to 100% stock, or would putting the original recovery image on get you through?
Any current or former Sprint techs willing to chime in? Just how perfect do we have to get it?

chavo2005 said:
its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!
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Actually, that just might work! Great idea chavo, very intuitive thinking!

I take back my last statement. I read somewhere flashrec doesnt work after youv flashed your imahe....google the unlockrs method on flashing a new recovery once already rooted; i think it involves some adb though :-(
Idk, thats as much as i know

I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.

chavo2005 said:
I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.
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Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?

mountaindont said:
Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?
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I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)

subliminalurge said:
I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)
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Your nandroid wont work on another phone, and if it did, it would synch your contacts to their phones, passwords, apps, the whole shindig. Bad idea
We'll have to beg a dev for a stock 1.5 rom

you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean

chavo2005 said:
you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean
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Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me

mountaindont said:
Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me
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Nandroid is device specific to a point.. If you go in to the nandroid folder on the SD card you will see a folder labled HT********** that is specific to your phone, however you can take a nandroid from another phone and place it in that folder and backup from that.
i'd do the RUU but i'm using the updated radio.

I use a mac, but if indeed it isn't the windows driver, and you have tried other roms, then it only leaves the kernel (and the usb cable and phone usb hwd ).
So use what ever methods you used for the rom flashing, and flash a kernel.
Some ideas : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625940&page=1
( start at page 1 )
Just a thought.

isn't the nandroid image made right AFTER you root?
so then, that wouldn't be what you want.
Extract the stock rom from the RUU

ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Wow thank you everyone for all of the advice, i had all but given up hope since I had been all over google looking for an answer for about 2 weeks. I will try the nandroid backup above and report back. thank you everyone again, you may have just saved me an insurance claim.

Wow, glad I found this thread. I'm downloading that nandroid image right now because I'm going to probably end up taking my Hero in to get the dust cleaned out later this week. I think another option would be to extract the RUU and get the ROM.zip out of it, and then just flash that.

chavo2005 said:
ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Ok I tried this and I am still rooted afterwards. I think that if you go to the sprint store and they can hit volume down and power, and get to the recovery menu then they will not take it back, no matter if the rom u are running is stock or not. any other ideas?

Want To Install A Rom

I rooted today, and I want to install damages rom. I've downloaded it, and I need some guidance. I have no idea where to go from here and don't see directions in the thread.
Anyone? eek! nervous

power off the phone
hold home and press the power button
let go of home when it vibrates
go to wipe..
wipe everything
go back to flash. flash the zip file.
reboot.
reboot takes forever.

what about a backup, should I run the nandroid backup and do a backup or a backup + ext I think it said or similar?
I want to make sure I can revert back to my 1.5 rom.
Do I also need to take all the damangecontrols zip file contents and put em on my sd card?

Kcarpenter said:
power off the phone
hold home and press the power button
let go of home when it vibrates
go to wipe..
wipe everything
go back to flash. flash the zip file.
reboot.
reboot takes forever.
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Good quick guide. They should all be so simple. Although I don't go the home/power way (unless adb isn't connecting). I use adb shell reboot recovery. Just my 2cents.

chugger93 said:
what about a backup, should I run the nandroid backup and do a backup or a backup + ext I think it said or similar?
I want to make sure I can revert back to my 1.5 rom.
Do I also need to take all the damangecontrols zip file contents and put em on my sd card?
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Yes, you need to nandroid. You only use nandroid+ext if you're using a2sd/apps2sd.
No, just put the zipfile on the SD card.
When you get into recovery (either the home+power on, or the adb shell reboot recovery method) AFTER doing your nandroid backup, then select 'flash zip from sd card' and select the ROM zipfile you put on the SD card.
KCarpenter's not kidding about the reboot. I've seen the first boot after installing DC's 2.0.8.1 take 15-30 minutes. So after flashing it, reboot and go take a shower or something.

smw6180 said:
Yes, you need to nandroid. You only use nandroid+ext if you're using a2sd/apps2sd.
No, just put the zipfile on the SD card.
When you get into recovery (either the home+power on, or the adb shell reboot recovery method) AFTER doing your nandroid backup, then select 'flash zip from sd card' and select the ROM zipfile you put on the SD card.
KCarpenter's not kidding about the reboot. I've seen the first boot after installing DC's 2.0.8.1 take 15-30 minutes. So after flashing it, reboot and go take a shower or something.
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Nandroids are for pansy's.

Kcarpenter said:
Nandroids are for pansy's.
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And for people like me who hate to have to start over from scratch every time he blows up a ROM install.

Ignore post -- looks like this has already been answered.

sweet...thanks guys. Wish me luck, gonna try this!
Oh one more question, are text messages migratable? Can I save those somehow before I upgrade?

chugger93 said:
sweet...thanks guys. Wish me luck, gonna try this!
Oh one more question, are text messages migratable? Can I save those somehow before I upgrade?
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Going from 2.x to 2.x yes. I never had any luck migrating those from 1.5 to 2.1. All I ever accomplished was a lot of Force Closes and problems, so I just said screw it and stopped trying.

chugger93 said:
sweet...thanks guys. Wish me luck, gonna try this!
Oh one more question, are text messages migratable? Can I save those somehow before I upgrade?
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Just blow em away...there are a couple options but none "good".

ok DM rom is installed!
I can't set it up tho and sign into google! says I dont have a network connection! Crap!
This could be a temporary problem or your phone may not be provisioned for data services
Thats what it says...

chugger93 said:
ok DM rom is installed!
I can't set it up tho and sign into google! says I dont have a network connection! Crap!
This could be a temporary problem or your phone may not be provisioned for data services
Thats what it says...
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yeah prob temp but sometimes to get data working u have to turn wifi on for a min then the data starts to work. weird but it does. good luck

Recover or reinstall rom from clockwork?

My phone wont boot, so can i install a rom from clockworkrecovery?

agy1995 said:
My phone wont boot, so can i install a rom from clockworkrecovery?
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Won't boot in what way? Can you get into fastboot and/or recovery? Since you're asking about CWM, I'm assuming you can get into it.
If you did a Nandroid backup (the main point of CWM for me), you could try just restoring it. If you didn't, I'd try a wipe all settings and then reboot. You should be able to get back to a virgin state on the main OS that way.

I can get into it, the problem is i erase all data on my phone. Thanks in advance!

???
Is there any way i can get my phone back up and running restoring everything from clockworkmod?

agy1995 said:
I can get into it, the problem is i erase all data on my phone. Thanks in advance!
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agy1995 said:
Is there any way i can get my phone back up and running restoring everything from clockworkmod?
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I'm still confused what your problem is.
You say the phone won't boot, but then you talk about erased data.
What exactly did you do to the phone? What was the last few things you did before you "broke" it?
What happens when you try to boot the phone (ie., it's powered off and you press the power button)? How far in the boot process does it go?
If your problem is that the phone boots but all your data is gone, there's no way to get back unless it auto-syncs down from Google, or you used a backup program like Titanium, or you made a nandroid backup in CWM.
If you made a nandroid, you should just be able to boot into CWM, select backup and restore and then restore your backup.

This is what happened....
I tried to replace my fonts in system that are supposed to work on a different phone. Then when i tried to boot up the phone was stuck on the silver google logo. Now, after that i went into clock work recovery and formated everything in the mounts and storage menu. After reinstalling the phones boot img, my phone freezes at the google logo. I can still get into the clockworkmod recovery. I never backed it up, but tried to use a nandroid someone posted online but i get a md5 mismatch.
Again, thank you for all your help!

agy1995 said:
I tried to replace my fonts in system that are supposed to work on a different phone. Then when i tried to boot up the phone was stuck on the silver google logo. Now, after that i went into clock work recovery and formated everything in the mounts and storage menu. After reinstalling the phones boot img, my phone freezes at the google logo. I can still get into the clockworkmod recovery. I never backed it up, but tried to use a nandroid someone posted online but i get a md5 mismatch.
Again, thank you for all your help!
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The Modaco rom(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883985) should work just fine. Put it on the USB storage then in Clockwork go to "Install from zip."

i have a problem almost like that but my rom manager open but wont even backup current rom or anything, my titanium back doesn't backup either. it said i could not acquire root privileges, this app will not work, please vertify that you rom is rooted and includes busybox, i have busybox and it's rooted. i guess this happen when i update the google update last night from rom manager. what should i do

willyalmanzar said:
i have a problem almost like that but my rom manager open but wont even backup current rom or anything, my titanium back doesn't backup either. it said i could not acquire root privileges, this app will not work, please vertify that you rom is rooted and includes busybox, i have busybox and it's rooted. i guess this happen when i update the google update last night from rom manager. what should i do
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Known issue. There is a thread in the Development section(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884499). The OTA "broke root."

Ouch. Now I understand.
In the future, always make a nandroid backup before messing around with things, easiest way to recover.
I see you're looking for help in this thread. Maybe they can help you.
You could also try flashing Doc's or Paul's roms also in that section.

rom
I tried that custom rom... still didnt work. Im going to give it another shot!

agy1995 said:
I tried that custom rom... still didnt work. Im going to give it another shot!
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Did you wipe/factory reset before attempting to install? I realize that you're pretty much wiped at the moment, but always best to start with that.

unremarked said:
Did you wipe/factory reset before attempting to install? I realize that you're pretty much wiped at the moment, but always best to start with that.
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I did that + i am using version 3.0 clockwork. Still frozen on the google screen.

agy1995 said:
I did that + i am using version 3.0 clockwork. Still frozen on the google screen.
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You've tried another NAND backup, besides the one that MD5 mismatched, yar? Be careful not to rename it, as that can cause the mismatch.

Nope
Nope i didnt try any...

Do i have to rename it to update.zip?
Do i have to rename it to update.zip?

agy1995 said:
Do i have to rename it to update.zip?
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The custom rom? No, you just go into recovery, wipe/factory reset, install from SD card, then navigate to where you put the .zip on the SD card.
I see you did try the 2.3.1 NAND backup in the development section. Try downloading it again on your PC, unzip it, then place the new folder on the clockworkmod's backup folder on your SD card. Again, do not rename it.

Im trying it now.
Im trying it now.

agy1995 said:
Im trying it now.
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Be warned that if you do get the NAND to restore, you may lose clockwork recovery. I know I did when I first tried to use it.
Don't panic though, because you can fastboot flash clockwork back on from the bootloader.

I am pushing the files....
I am pushing the files....

Need help!

Hey all, got a little problem here. I rooted my Iconia just fine but when I tried to install a custom ROM, the tablet got stuck at the "Acer" splash screen. Nothing I do helps, not factory resetting, not hardware resetting, nothing. With Volume Up + Power, I can get into Clockwork Recovery just fine but that's about it! Help me!

If you can get into clockwork, you should be able to restore the backup you made of your existing install.
You did make a backup, right?
If not, you should be able to find a full download of the stock rom in here somewhere and flash that.

good advice
As long as you can still get into cwm you should be fine.
Did you remember to clear cache/battery/davak before flashing? I personally do the clear before and after. Could always try reflashing the rom if you did not do this.
Failing that, restore your backup.

entropyiv said:
If you can get into clockwork, you should be able to restore the backup you made of your existing install.
You did make a backup, right?
If not, you should be able to find a full download of the stock rom in here somewhere and flash that.
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Regretfully, I was not able to restore my backup. Don't know what happened to it. Even if I do find a copy of the stock ROM, how can I download it to my tablet if I can't get past that screen?
EDIT: Never mind, I think I know what to do. I just need to get my hands on a card reader.

MCBuot1977 said:
Regretfully, I was not able to restore my backup. Don't know what happened to it. Even if I do find a copy of the stock ROM, how can I download it to my tablet if I can't get past that screen?
EDIT: Never mind, I think I know what to do. I just need to get my hands on a card reader.
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I dont get it. Why would someone be messing around with rooting and cwm if one doesnt even know cwm has usb mount option?

goodintentions said:
I dont get it. Why would someone be messing around with rooting and cwm if one doesnt even know cwm has usb mount option?
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Everyone starts somewhere. Flashing a custom ROM was maybe a strange place to start, but at least they tried to make a backup first.
I see lots of others on here that don't even bother to do that.

Thanks everyone for their assistance. I was able to borrow my co-workers USB card reader and downloaded Virtuous Xoom onto my microSD. Flashed the ROM and now all is well.

MCBuot1977 said:
Thanks everyone for their assistance. I was able to borrow my co-workers USB card reader and downloaded Virtuous Xoom onto my microSD. Flashed the ROM and now all is well.
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Sweet! Glad you are back up and running again!

cwm recover not recognizing restore files

I recently rooted my phone and tried a few different roms. I'm currently on cyanogen mod 10.2. I used cwm to backup my original ROM. I copied the backup file to my computer and uploaded it to my dropbox. I formatted my SD card since it had a lot of junk on it. I copies them back and now they aren't being recognized. This is my original stock ROM and since this is my first time rooting I really want to keep a stock ROM on hand for easy access incase I mess something up and need my phone to work properly. Thanks for any help. Its also a Samsung s4 i337m from fido.

can you see the backup and it's just not letting you restore it or can you not see the backup at all?
i'll tell you to keep researching and troubleshooting but if all else fails, odin back to stock, reroot, install cwm and make a new stock backup again.

Its not appearing in cwm at all unless i have a restore that was on it post format and not copied off the computer. Like if I make a backup of my current ROM the stock one will appear and just hang in checking md5. If there are no backups other than the original stock one it isn't being recognized. Also it worked before I formatteebthe SD card.

when you formatted the card and then replaced the cwm backup, where did you place the backup?
for example: 0/clockworkmod/backup, /clockworkmod/backup, etc.
if you make a backup now, where does it save the new one?
i'm just running through the bases here.

Sorry I don't know the exact locatiotion but I just dragged and dropped the "Clockworkmod" That cwm created when I made my first restore to my PC. Formatted the SD card and just dragged and dropped it back to the SD card. The new restore saves in the same folder also.

i'm assuming they're both in something like sdcard1, extSdCard or external_sd /clockworkmod/backup.
if so, and you didnt change cwm versions (i.e. from 6.0.3.6 to 6.0.4.4), then something may have been corrupted when moving the backup folder back and forth.

Yes that seems about right. I didn't change anything on cwm, unless my ROMs did. If it is corrupted will it just hang indefinitely or is there a chance it can work? And is there any other way to do a restore?

i'm no recovery expert but if your backup is corrupt than i dont imagine there's a fix for it.
i accidentally deleted my stock backup a couple phones ago. in order to have a fully stock backup on the sd card again (in the event i needed/wanted to restore to the original factory setup), i had to odin back to the stock firmware and start over.

Do you know any good guides on how to do that?

michael74195 said:
Do you know any good guides on how to do that?
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Try to re-downloading from drop box. Could have gotten corrupted during the download process.

Download it straight from dropbox to the SD card through the phone?

michael74195 said:
Download it straight from dropbox to the SD card through the phone?
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yup

Alright I will try it when I get home so I don't kill my data.

michael74195 said:
Alright I will try it when I get home so I don't kill my data.
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true story.
report back. cheers

Nope, no luck. It just hangs at checking MD5 Sums. I tried the backup i made for foxhound 2.0 and it did the same thing.
edit: It worked it was just hanging for a good 15 minutes though.

michael74195 said:
Nope, no luck. It just hangs at checking MD5 Sums. I tried the backup i made for foxhound 2.0 and it did the same thing.
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Can you have cwm not check for the md5? It's been awhile since I've used cwm. I use twrp.
Edit, doesn't look like you can. I just flashed cwm to see. Was the foxhound nandroid one you just made and it still doesn't restore?

jd1639 said:
Was the foxhound nandroid one you just made and it still doesn't restore?
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yeah, thats what i was gonna ask: if you've made one just now and tried restoring it.

Ok thanks for the help but the problem resolved itself after letting ti hang until it did something. It worked after about 15 minutes.
edit: I just rooted the phone a few days ago and I'm all new to this, so i figured after it not doing anything for 5 mins with the dead android on the screen was bad. Thanks for the help.

michael74195 said:
Ok thanks for the help but the problem resolved itself after letting ti hang until it did something. It worked after about 15 minutes.
edit: I just rooted the phone a few days ago and I'm all new to this, so i figured after it not doing anything for 5 mins with the dead android on the screen was bad. Thanks for the help.
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Good, yea a restore and reboot can take longer than you think. And waiting seems like forever when you're expecting it to boot. You'll get used to it.