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Please, what is CID?

hi, can i ask that? i dont know what exactly is that ... so i cant know if i have it "unlocked" or "locked" please anser me...

I suggest you go to the WIKI and do a search, such as "CID" or "SuperCID". I know there's a vocabulary of terms in the Hermes WIKI.
Hope this helps

Maximus-CZ said:
hi, can i ask that? i dont know what exactly is that ... so i cant know if i have it "unlocked" or "locked" please anser me...
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CID-lock means: YOu can only flash official ROms in YOUR device language. All other will cause "vendor-ID error"
All devices are cid-locked by default - you have to pay for unlocking.
Aserg found a way of flashing devices to WM6 without the need of unlocking
BUT: when something goes wrong - you need an RUU in your language to unbrick your device.
SO pleas read more when trying to flash a WM6 rom.
Thanks

ahh -- i have the WM5 , in 4 leanguage (when i hard reset it will let me choose English, Czech (my leanguage - but i have Eng for default) and 2 next leanguage, so i have RUU in English, will it work?

Maximus-CZ said:
ahh -- i have the WM5 , in 4 leanguage (when i hard reset it will let me choose English, Czech (my leanguage - but i have Eng for default) and 2 next leanguage, so i have RUU in English, will it work?
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Try but since Czech is the main language i don't think it will work

but im not sure if it is Main leaguage ... this Rom have 4 leanguages -- totaly Tranclated, i dont know, if it is Czech rom , and you can choose Eng + next 2, or if it is Eng rom, for chzech republic, so putted there next 3 leanguage (Czech + that 2) ... does anybody have that "multileanguage roms too??"

Buuut --- if i will choose Czech leanguage in that rom, my Rom version in Device Infromation is 1.8.405.1 CSY (maybe thing CZ) and when i will choose English as default Leanguage, my Rom version is 1.8.405.1 WWE -
--- is it possible, to have 4 diferent roms in device, and im choosing them by Leanguage Choose on Hard Reset device?
and also, when after hard reset, it will let me choose 4 leanguage, and the first is ENG and second is Czech (my Leng) so it seems it is English rom...

and last message before anser,
My Rom version: 1.8.405.1 WWE
My Protocol version: 4.1.13.34
My Radio Version: 2.71.90
i have this RUU:
RUU_Herald_HTC_WWE_5.4.405.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe
...........................................I...................I................I....................................
...........................................I...................I................I....................................
........................Next Rom v.?__Next Protocol v.?__Next Radio v.?...............
by This it seems, this RUU is for my Device, isn´t it?

Maximus-CZ said:
Buuut --- if i will choose Czech leanguage in that rom, my Rom version in Device Infromation is 1.8.405.1 CSY (maybe thing CZ) and when i will choose English as default Leanguage, my Rom version is 1.8.405.1 WWE -
--- is it possible, to have 4 diferent roms in device, and im choosing them by Leanguage Choose on Hard Reset device?
and also, when after hard reset, it will let me choose 4 leanguage, and the first is ENG and second is Czech (my Leng) so it seems it is English rom...
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Hmm never heard of multiple language boot before.. but i suggest you'd just try them! (if you really need the info)
Since your device info changes when you change the language, i would not know, only way to find out is trying

eeh .. but if it will not work, and i brick my device, i dont know how to unbrick that... because there is not RUU for chzech (i tryed to search everywhere) -- and when i brick that, i will loose a lot of money in my case...

Maximus-CZ said:
eeh .. but if it will not work, and i brick my device, i dont know how to unbrick that... because there is not RUU for chzech (i tryed to search everywhere) -- and when i brick that, i will loose a lot of money in my case...
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You CANNOT brick with an RUU, if it's not he right one, you will get Invalid Vender ID error and it will not flash

Oh REALY?? You realy calm me im going to try to flash my Windows tonight... when my brother (4years older than me) goes home, he will probably try to flash to WM6 too ... so thx for guides guys
this is best forum about PDA

Maximus-CZ said:
this is best forum about PDA
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TRUE, but please i'm not responsible if it goes wrong.

if i sayd that you calmed me, i was not serious ... now:-/ agrh .. i realy dont know what hapended, i never tryed to change rom, my experience there is 0% so i dont know what exactly may hapen, and when something hapen, i dont know how to solve that.... so i need to know all risk and especialy yours opinions!!

Maximus-CZ said:
if i sayd that you calmed me, i was not serious ... now:-/ agrh .. i realy dont know what hapended, i never tryed to change rom, my experience there is 0% so i dont know what exactly may hapen, and when something hapen, i dont know how to solve that.... so i need to know all risk and especialy yours opinions!!
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it depends why you want to know, just curious? do you want to flash WM6? why do you want to flash?

no, not just curious, i want to flas to WM6 -- i want to flash because WM6 looks good, and i want to try it, like everything anusual in my life...

Maximus-CZ said:
no, not just curious, i want to flas to WM6 -- i want to flash because WM6 looks good, and i want to try it, like everything anusual in my life...
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You got a point there then i suggest you just try the RUU's! if not one works, then you should CID-unlock at imei-check.co.uk. then flash to the latest WWE ROM, and then flash WM6 to it! good luck

and when This RUU works, just flash to WM6?

Maximus-CZ said:
and when This RUU works, just flash to WM6?
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Yes, then you do not have to CID-unlock! good luck

ok, thx for good luck, i will need it

Can I downgrade after upgraded to WM6

Sorry for asking stupid question....I searched on this forum, couldnt find answers.
I read on official HTC site, that after I upgrade to WM6, I cannot downgrade to WM5 anymore.
I found many customized ROM here (WM6), if I used that ROM, can I downgrade to WM5 after some times?
thx

Of course you can ...

how is that done, do you just overwrite everything with the standard HTC ROM or do you have to delete the Hard SPL and radio upgrades first?

You can do, but once you have WM6 you will not what too...
May be an idea to keep a copy off your orginial rom,
incase you want the exact same one back...

steveecourt said:
You can do, but once you have WM6 you will not what too...
May be an idea to keep a copy off your orginial rom,
incase you want the exact same one back...
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how can i extract my original version of wm5 from my htc p 3600? i have a "customatized" version with all carriers settings and multi language. it's some programs who can do that? thanks

Just an idea

Hi everybody,
Waiting the Hard SPL for the HD2, I just thinking about a simple idea, is that possible to sign a rom like htc made, in order to find a way to flash our beloved device in different languages ?
For example if I take an FRA rom is that possible to change the region code to NLD (very easy with a hex editor) and resign the rom, to make think to the phone the rom is NLD and flash to have all the phone in french ?
In advance thanks for your responses,
A big thanks to all who participes to XDA live !

I think this has being tried before in another thread and basically it did not work.

Ok thanks for the response

madboy57 said:
Hi everybody,
Waiting the Hard SPL for the HD2, I just thinking about a simple idea, is that possible to sign a rom like htc made, in order to find a way to flash our beloved device in different languages ?
For example if I take an FRA rom is that possible to change the region code to NLD (very easy with a hex editor) and resign the rom, to make think to the phone the rom is NLD and flash to have all the phone in french ?
In advance thanks for your responses,
A big thanks to all who participes to XDA live !
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I´m really not the guy to awser this, but i think it has something to do that its CID locked, and this cant just be changed with a regestry.

hd leo rom 1.61

what does the TUR stand for ??
any idea when spl will be released?

Turkey, wasn't too hard to guess

is this the only one available, i dont want a turkish rom on my uk o2 hd2 ?? how can i get around this, is there a WWE release yet ?

When You first launch rom, it ask you Turkish or English.
I installed it and am using it. It's really worth updating.
The battery life, signal etc is way better.

ditto. I have an 02 one, its got v1.43 & I have never done this before. Am curious about how to do it. Will I need a goldcard?

same here, i think goldcard will be needed, can someone confirm this please? thanks
also when will spl be released

The turkish is the only language avalaible at this moment because HTC's Tech Center is in Ankara, Turkey cool. So all news staffs from HTC are allways first in turkish. But HTC will release WWE versions soon. Keep in touch...

Yes, goldcard is needed if you flash to anything different from your stock rom (as in, different region)...
About spl, nobody knows (except the ones working on it maybe hehe) so just wait and see... Hopefully before the new year.

I know I am in line for a tongue lashing from people when I ask this, but I'm sorry there is sooooooo verrrrrrry much to read scattered all over this site and its confusing me.
Whats this WWE and SPL thing? I thought at first you were all supporters of 2 different sports teams.
And why does it matter so much?

freedirk said:
I know I am in line for a tongue lashing from people when I ask this, but I'm sorry there is sooooooo verrrrrrry much to read scattered all over this site and its confusing me.
Whats this WWE and SPL thing? I thought at first you were all supporters of 2 different sports teams.
And why does it matter so much?
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WWE stands for World Wide English and denotes that a ROM will be in the English language. It should have regional settings for most English regions, thoough some don't.
SPL is much more important, and is the sub-code which allows the boot sectors to be written to. Most WinMo devices are locked to a carrier and/or a region and MUST have the SPL modified before attempting to update the ROM, otherwise at best the ROM won't install, and at worst the device will become totally unresponsive, requiring serious work to recover.
If you are unsure, don't mess, as modifying the SPL will invalidate your warranty If you still want to proceed, then read up everything first.

Several Questions:: Does my simlock Dissapear if i Flash My HTC ??? Which Rom ??

Hi all,
Im back after a very long time because.
I buyed after a very long time a htc touch hd...
well its not new, the guy were i buyed from used it for 1week and didn't liked the touchscreen. He told me he received it as a present for xmas and stuff like that.
Now is my Question: i want to flash my rom because its WM 6.1 and i heared alot of great things about WM 6.5 is that trough ?
Also if i flash my HTC TOUCH HD, will my simlock dissapear or something ?
Cause on my last phones it was, i flashed it and i needed to unlock it again and more headache.
Is it normal that the simlock will reactivate if its flashed to WM6.5 ??
If the htc still unlocked.
Which ROM you all will advice me ? i really prefer Dutch roms, but english roms are also oke.
and also tell me why, so i can get all the benefits of it
Im not a beginner in flashing of phones but flashing of HTC's i am.
I only did it once as far as i can remember and that was on a P3300 a very old model, So if there is also a little manual i will be very thankfull.
Thank you all,
Regards,
BiGGiE89

biggie89 said:
Hi all,
Im back after a very long time because.
I buyed after a very long time a htc touch hd...
well its not new, the guy were i buyed from used it for 1week and didn't liked the touchscreen. He told me he received it as a present for xmas and stuff like that.
Now is my Question: i want to flash my rom because its WM 6.1 and i heared alot of great things about WM 6.5 is that trough ?
Also if i flash my HTC TOUCH HD, will my simlock dissapear or something ?
Cause on my last phones it was, i flashed it and i needed to unlock it again and more headache.
Is it normal that the simlock will reactivate if its flashed to WM6.5 ??
If the htc still unlocked.
Which ROM you all will advice me ? i really prefer Dutch roms, but english roms are also oke.
and also tell me why, so i can get all the benefits of it
Im not a beginner in flashing of phones but flashing of HTC's i am.
I only did it once as far as i can remember and that was on a P3300 a very old model, So if there is also a little manual i will be very thankfull.
Thank you all,
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Hi biggie89,
Yes, the good news is that there have been many advancements and improvements to the Windows Mobile OS in version 6.5, such as having a more finger friendly User Interface - providing you with a much neater and tidy user experience. Speed varies depending on which 6.5/6.5.x ROM you choose to install and you will be glad to know that both Dutch and English ROMs are available for download
The bad news is that if you flash your HD in it's current state (simlocked), then I am afraid that this is unlikely to work until you get your SIM unlocked as the simlock is controlled by the baseband. Data is stored there too and flashing the radio or ROM will not have any effect on the simlock. Therefore, I would advise you to have it unlocked before you begin the flashing process.
Here is a guide that you can read to make you more aware of how to flash a Touch HD ROM. Essentially, what you must do first is unlock your phone using either Hard-SPL or USPL.
You can also see this link as it details what the latest ROM builds offer in terms of stability and performance.
I think it would be a little unfair to say which ROM is best especiallly for the people who create these custom ROMs. Each ROM is different in their own little way i.e. one ROM might be fast but a little unstable, another may be stable but a little slow, etc... The best thing you can do is try out different ROMs (Dutch or English versions) yourself and try to discover which one meets your needs.
Note: when you get to the stage of downloading a ROM, to find a Dutch based ROM, simply look at the headings of the ROMs listed from this link. Dutch ROMs include the abbreviation NLD in their title [NLD = Netherlands], and English ROMs have WWE in the title [WWE = World Wide English].
I hope this helps you out.
Regards.

Mastoid is correct. Flashing to a new rom, even if you use hspl, will unfortunately not unlock the sim.
There are tools that can do that, but it is not free. You can try this one which seems to be popular and effective.

Hi all and thanks for your reply on my message..
My htc HD works now with my vodafone NL simcard so its not simlocked or something i think i wrote my question wrong..
Im scared if i FLash my rom that the unlocking of my device comes back, So i can't use my vodafone NL simcard with it.
Is that possible ??
the current state is unlocked or locked with vodafone i dont know for sure but you guys tell me that if i FLASH my rom now i still can use my vodafone NL simcard ???
if that is the way i will flash my rom in to a nice ROM that u guys told me to do..
the thing what i want to is..
USE my vodafone NL simcard with my htc touch HD like now but with a different ROM.
my htc touch HD is working great with WM 6.1 with a vodafone NL simcard.
so im still confused with the simcard if it will work.
do you guys think that it will work with WM6.5 ??
Greetz,
BiGGiE89

biggie89 said:
Hi all and thanks for your reply on my message..
My htc HD works now with my vodafone NL simcard so its not simlocked or something i think i wrote my question wrong..
Im scared if i FLash my rom that the unlocking of my device comes back, So i can't use my vodafone NL simcard with it.
Is that possible ??
the current state is unlocked or locked with vodafone i dont know for sure but you guys tell me that if i FLASH my rom now i still can use my vodafone NL simcard ???
if that is the way i will flash my rom in to a nice ROM that u guys told me to do..
the thing what i want to is..
USE my vodafone NL simcard with my htc touch HD like now but with a different ROM.
my htc touch HD is working great with WM 6.1 with a vodafone NL simcard.
so im still confused with the simcard if it will work.
do you guys think that it will work with WM6.5 ??
Greetz,
BiGGiE89
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Flashing a rom does not affect the status of the simcard so it will still work. Just follow the Dummies Guide (link by Mastoid above) and you'll be fine
Rick

thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89

biggie89 said:
thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Would start here and here. Good luck , I look forward to seeing your roms
Rick

biggie89 said:
thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Pleasure mate, no problem at all. If you need any more assistance or have any more concerns, then all you have to do is just post back here. Any of the guys mentioned above (including myself if i am capable) will more than willingly help you out.
Best Regards.