Silly Manila Question - HD2 General

Hep, I know this is stupid question of mine, but I am stressed on time due to my workload.
So I just need a quick hint here.
How do I remove (aka "replace") a QuickLink in Manila?
Its easy enough to add one by just clicking on an empty box field.
But I can't figure out how to change an existing QuickLink, because no matter how I click on it, the best I achieve is launching the corresponding application (no pop-up DialogBox with "add/remove/change" options comes up).

pharao said:
Hep, I know this is stupid question of mine, but I am stressed on time due to my workload.
So I just need a quick hint here.
How do I remove (aka "replace") a QuickLink in Manila?
Its easy enough to add one by just clicking on an empty box field.
But I can't figure out how to change an existing QuickLink, because no matter how I click on it, the best I achieve is launching the corresponding application (no pop-up DialogBox with "add/remove/change" options comes up).
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Tsk tsk pharao - this is all in the manual
Just kidding mate. Click Menu and you can remove a quicklink from there.
Hope this helps

johncmolyneux said:
Tsk tsk pharao - this is all in the manual
Just kidding mate. Click Menu and you can remove a quicklink from there.
Hope this helps
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I threw the manual away :-(
No for real, I got my HD2 the evening before I departed for Europe and everything from the package that was not cable or storage went into the trash bin that day...
Thanks for the info mate, I'll try it out right away.

pharao said:
I threw the manual away :-(
No for real, I got my HD2 the evening before I departed for Europe and everything from the package that was not cable or storage went into the trash bin that day...
Thanks for the info mate, I'll try it out right away.
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Here you go matey...
http://www.htc.com/www/userguide.aspx?p_id=297

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New to the xda2

i got an xda2 yestrdya, and i uninstalled the o2 active crap, but now when i go into programs i have an icon thats syas "active" underneath it and when i click it it comes up with something about filename, how can i get rid of that icon?
can you give me some links to some good freeware sites?
ok had 70 odd views and no reply? someone must know? it wont take long come on people, we all gotta start somehwere
;-)))
NeCrOpHiLiCaT said:
ok had 70 odd views and no reply? someone must know? it wont take long come on people, we all gotta start somehwere
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;-)))
Start your "File Explorer", open Windows -> Start Menu -> Programs folder, find your "active" file and delete it!
Did it work?
Necro: Just experience that kind of problem... did it work with your situation? wasnt able yet to try...
Just do it!
pidz111 said:
Necro: Just experience that kind of problem... did it work with your situation? wasnt able yet to try...
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Try yourself !
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Haven't tried Restorator? Shame on you.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9333&highlight=

iPhone GUI upgrade free!

Here is the blurb I just found....
http://rychlicki.net/en/2007/04/01/174/
and here is the free download link...
http://rychlicki.net/inne/res_ppc-custom.icons.zip
Some of the buttons didn't work until I edited the .ini file enclosed but otherwise looks cool and works nice esp the lock/unlock slide thing.
UPDATE INFO:
Click this link for a VERY cool rewrite of this application;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1219757#post1219757
Nice work!!!!!!!
great find! i was hoping this would show up when i first saw the video. I got it loaded and it's pretty nice to work with. One question so far....where is the comm manager located on the 8525. Im trying to find the path so i can link the settings button to it but i cannot find it. Thanks!
Edit: This is a little bigger issue for me, my clock on the device it self it correct but in the iphone launcher app it is 4 hours ahead. How and hell do i fix this? Any help is appreciated
bodypilot said:
Some of the buttons didn't work until I edited the .ini file enclosed but otherwise looks cool and works nice esp the lock/unlock slide thing.
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How did you edit the .ini file?
^^^ Same question here.
I have no issue updating. I just don't know what to do.
I downloaded and will run the file. I will take a closer look.
PS: WICKED FIND! I was starting to think that it was lost to us.
pasil.pt said:
How did you edit the .ini file?
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Connected the phone via activesync and copied the file to my pc. Then I can edit with notepad by right click - open with etc. If that's not working for you drag the file and drop it onto a notepad icon
bodypilot said:
Connected the phone via activesync and copied the file to my pc. Then I can edit with notepad by right click - open with etc. If that's not working for you drag the file and drop it onto a notepad icon
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Here is what the config.ini file contains as default....
[Button Config]
text=\Windows\tmail.exe
calendar=\Windows\calendar.exe
photos=\Windows\pimg.exe
camera=\Windows\camera.exe
calculator=\Windows\calc.exe
stocks=\Program Files\TCPMP\\player.exe
maps=\Program Files\GoogleMaps\Googlemaps.exe
weather=\Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe
notes=\Windows\notes.exe
clock=\Windows\clock.exe
settings=\Windows\wirelessmanager.exe
phone=\Windows\cprog.exe
mail=\Windows\tmail.exe
web=\Windows\iexplore.exe
ipod=\Program Files\Starbrite\ppod\ppod.exe
Great find!
Has anyone tried this on WM6? I'm planning to try it in a few days, so if there's no feedback, I'll let you guys know if it works.
wavesound said:
Great find!
Has anyone tried this on WM6? I'm planning to try it in a few days, so if there's no feedback, I'll let you guys know if it works.
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yes, it works on wm6 and even 2003se
i have some problem with the clock i see only 0 0 in my main screen and when i tap it to lock the screen i see nothing ....maybe it'a beacuse i have hebrow installed in my pocketpc what should i do?
and another quick qustion can i make the screen automticly lock it self after a few min that i didn't used it?
great job!!!!!
That's the same for me, "0 0" instead of the time on the clock, but the locking works when tapping on it... any idea?
I got the french Orange "Swiss" last rom...
Very good job indeed, congratulations!
james341 said:
...can i make the screen automticly lock it self after a few min that i didn't used it?
great job!!!!!
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I do not know how to do that, but I managed to map hardware button to slide.exe. To do that you have to create a link to it (for example to programs folder). Then you can map this link via Settings >> Buttons. Only issue I am having is that the time is lagging two hours on Slider screen.
bodypilot said:
Connected the phone via activesync and copied the file to my pc. Then I can edit with notepad by right click - open with etc. If that's not working for you drag the file and drop it onto a notepad icon
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Many thanks. I will try
Any ideas yet on how to get the time in the the launcher program to sync with the phone itself? Mine is still running 4 hours ahead.
CAB File
Hi,
Here is a CAB for automated install/uninstall.
Regards,
Taguapire
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NEW INFO: Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301517&page=4#31 for the new file.
Nice
Very nice find! Like many other my only problem is with the slide unlock the time is off by 5 hours and the date is 1 day ahead. If anyone finds away to fix this please post, thanks I will continue to play around with it and see what i can come up with..........
tried it on wm6 slvw version and get "installation of iphone slider for wm5.cab was unsuccessful. the installation file is not intended for this device.
ceelo2007 said:
Very nice find! Like many other my only problem is with the slide unlock the time is off by 5 hours and the date is 1 day ahead. If anyone finds away to fix this please post, thanks I will continue to play around with it and see what i can come up with..........
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Just a guess - I don't have the application installed and haven't had that program but your phone has to clock settings Home -> Visting. Maybe your phone is accidentally set to Visiting clock and the home clock is off by a bit and the applications are pulling the time from the Home clock? It's a shot in the dark guess but worth a shot!
Well
chymmylt said:
Just a guess - I don't have the application installed and haven't had that program but your phone has to clock settings Home -> Visting. Maybe your phone is accidentally set to Visiting clock and the home clock is off by a bit and the applications are pulling the time from the Home clock? It's a shot in the dark guess but worth a shot!
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Thanks for the reply that was actually the first thing that i checked when i noticed the problem
Clock Off
Best guess I can give is that the time isn't being adjusted for time zone. Mine is 5 hours ahead and I am in US Central time zone (GMT -6) so it is close to Greenwich mean time.
I would try to fix this myself since the source is provided but I need a developers kit and a compiler...
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Actually if I remember correctly (big IF) daylight savings time is a US thing so with DST right now that would put the offset right at GMT.
anybody figure out how to fix the timing issue

Adding icons to program page?

Please I need your help. I added plenty of icons on the front Program page and don't remember any more how and what I did.
Thanks for your reply.
what do you want to do ?
add more or remove them ?
and are you talking about the program menu which has a number of rows of small squares
Thanks for your prompt reply.
You know the bottom line when you scroll your finger you get several pages, such as, Home, Telephone directory ... then at the end Programs. On this last one I did add some extra icons (yes squared) to which I assigned my preferred programs. I know how to delete one or more but not how to add a new ones.
To add more Programsquares:
Registry:
HKLM - Software - HTC - Manila - ProgramLauncher
Currently there are 24 directorys. You can duplicate some an change their names to 24 - ....
In here you can even unlock some fields if your provider did so. Set IsReadOnly from 1 to 0.
I think there will be a perfomancelimit somewehre, so don´t add to much in one time.
That is OK, but I don't remember had done that to add my previous ones. I can recall that I had to pouch a command and that was all.
Anyway, you are right, I might reached the max. of 24 icons.
I think I'll follow your recommendation and avoid to add any more since that might slow down the process.
Many thanks again
Flanders said:
To add more Programsquares:
Registry:
HKLM - Software - HTC - Manila - ProgramLauncher
Currently there are 24 directorys. You can duplicate some an change their names to 24 - ....
In here you can even unlock some fields if your provider did so. Set IsReadOnly from 1 to 0.
I think there will be a perfomancelimit somewehre, so don´t add to much in one time.
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I've added 6 additional fields as you explained from 24 to 29, so totally I have 30 fields now and they appear on the programs tab in TF3D.
When you click on one of them (the one I've added), it opens the program list so you can choose one but after you do so the field still blank, so to resume it's not really working despite adding the field.
hmmm... I´ve tested it on diamond an it worked fine. I´ll test it on HD... it will take a moment.
Flanders said:
hmmm... I´ve tested it on diamond an it worked fine. I´ll test it on HD... it will take a moment.
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Thks, keep us updated
I´m sorry - it really doesn´t work that way. The link is included the right way, icon link to. But it does not show. there are really differences between TF3D for Diamond and for HD.
Flanders said:
I´m sorry - it really doesn´t work that way. The link is included the right way, icon link to. But it does not show. there are really differences between TF3D for Diamond and for HD.
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There should be other registry tweaks to be done.
I'll do a research and will let you know if I find anything
is it possible to increase the number of programs slot?
Would it be possible to have more than one "programs" tab?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453240
For me, if this was possible it would massively increase the functionality of my HD.
Look forward to your answers.
Regards
Mav.
jackthekayman said:
is it possible to increase the number of programs slot?
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If you look at the previous post, u can see that it is possible but for some reasons we are not able to add programs inside these tabs, don't know why.
It works fine on the Diamond, but not the Touch HD
Mavrick said:
Would it be possible to have more than one "programs" tab?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453240
For me, if this was possible it would massively increase the functionality of my HD.
Look forward to your answers.
Regards
Mav.
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Hi Mavrick
This thread is for adding more slots in the same program tabs and not adding more programs tabs in TF3D. Anyway I don't know if you proposal can be done, some expert developers might need to look at it
sorry

HD2: Can the lock slider change to bottom?

Does anyone know how to change the lock slider to the bottom like the iPhone? please help. Thanks.
search "S2U2" via google.
problem is I'll slide twice as both two lock screen programs are running
For a start, there is a way to turn off the default lock screen if you're using S2U2
Tip 27 from the Hints and Tips thread (I strongly suggest you read it all)
Tip 27. Disable Auto Screen Lock
If you use S2U2, you would have hated the double lock annoyance. Now you can turn off default Auto Screen Lock.
Go to HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd and change DeviceLockWhenSuspend to 0, or use the following cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...2&d=1258236796 thanks to triperko.
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Second, you don't need to use a 3rd party app, you can just run the HeartOfWolf Lockscreen mod in my signature and it'll move the slider to the bottom of the screen for you. I have no idea why they put it at the top?
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363
Simplest and easiest is this:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/wmmaniac.CustomLockscreen.cab
kr00t0n said:
Simplest and easiest is this:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/wmmaniac.CustomLockscreen.cab
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Brilliant, thanks for this dude.
installed this too.
pretty nice.
DN41
kr00t0n said:
Simplest and easiest is this:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/wmmaniac.CustomLockscreen.cab
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Can you explain a bit about this one rather than just post the cab please
You can try the HD2 Mini lockscreen cab..it's quite good, just don't use the PIN unlock.
It's slide down to unlock and it tells you any missed calls, SMS, emails etc...i quite like it actually..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641024&highlight=hd+mini
You can also take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632637
At the bottom, the OP posted a modified 480x800 cpr file to do want you want. All you need to do is change the extension from .txt to .cpr, open file explorer and put it in the Windows\Lockscreen file and soft reset.
EDIT:
Also, if you are using the HeartofWolf Mod and would prefer to have the original larger slider size instead of the small skinny one, I've made a few modifications to his LS_LockScene_480x800 and attached it below. All you need to do is change the file extension from .txt to .cpr and install it into your windows\lockscreen file, soft reset and you're good to go. Of course, please back up the original LS_LockScene_480x800 before installing this one, just in case you would like to revert back to the small slider. And of course all credits to HeartofWolf, I just made a couple of changes to his work.
chimpsinties said:
Can you explain a bit about this one rather than just post the cab please
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It literally swaps the slider and phone location on the lock screen, nothing more.
Another nice solution is DJ Pete's locksreen. It's a simple modification of the windows lockscreen with manila clock, calendar appointments and slider variations. You can find it at pocketpc.ch in the thread
[Lockscreen] iLook v3.0c [NEUE VERSIONEN!|WM6.5/6.5.x WVGA][27.02.10].
! It's in German.
kr00t0n said:
It literally swaps the slider and phone location on the lock screen, nothing more.
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I know, but can you include instructions on how to do this? BTW, thanks guys!!! you guys are so helpful and awsome. However, I'm like a baby to this and please post some instructions on how to perform some of these nice tweaks. Many thanks.
kr00t0n said:
Simplest and easiest is this:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/wmmaniac.CustomLockscreen.cab
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i installed this, didnt like it so i uninstalled it. but now the sense lock screen doesnt come back, the original windows one has appeared. any ideas?
this is soooo annoying and i swear if i have to do another hard reset i wont be happy!!!
bump please it is frustrating
jonyid said:
i installed this, didnt like it so i uninstalled it. but now the sense lock screen doesnt come back, the original windows one has appeared. any ideas?
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try the restore original lock screen cab from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618989
and chill out dood you should be using s2u2 anyway way more customizable and much more information.
i dont want any of that rubbish about size/memory you have a HD2 it can hack it! live the dream!
kandekid said:
I know, but can you include instructions on how to do this? BTW, thanks guys!!! you guys are so helpful and awsome. However, I'm like a baby to this and please post some instructions on how to perform some of these nice tweaks. Many thanks.
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Kandekied, to get you started, go into your windows directory inside file explorer and open the lockscreen folder. Next, copy the file LS_LockScene_480x800 somewhere onto your PC and open it using notepad. That particular file is for Portrait. If you want to modify landscape also, then copy LS_Lockscene_800x480. With the file open on your PC in notepad, you are now ready to begin modifying. The particulars of what you want to do would take alot of space on this post to describe, but to get you pointed in the right direction, I've copied a few threads for you to look at that will help you get started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632637
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625517&page=2
jonyid said:
i installed this, didnt like it so i uninstalled it. but now the sense lock screen doesnt come back, the original windows one has appeared. any ideas?
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You see, this is why I asked for more information about this in the first place. I never install a cab that I've not read about first and that people have tested a bit. You should always link to the thread a cab came from, not just the cab.
Also, chill out. You installed a cab from a random thread and it wasn't what you wanted. If you have to hard reset it's your problem not ours.
If people don't reply to a post it's because they either don't want to or don't know. There is no point in wetting your panties and posting multiple times. It's more likely just to p!ss everyone off and make them not reply.
mynamesteve said:
try the restore original lock screen cab from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618989
and chill out dood you should be using s2u2 anyway way more customizable and much more information.
i dont want any of that rubbish about size/memory you have a HD2 it can hack it! live the dream!
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dude you my friend are a diamond. i'd like to apologise to people for getting frustrated. it had been a long day and loads of s**t had happened and this just topped it all off.
thanks again
jonyid said:
i'd like to apologise to people for getting frustrated. it had been a long day and loads of s**t had happened and this just topped it all off.
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No problem

clock background

before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.
Tregrad said:
before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.
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LMAO...At least you have a sense of humor about it
And your to Senior to get Super Flamed...lol
I havent used 6.1 on a long time...
But I am pretty sure over in the blackstone themes and apps section is your best bet
Tregrad said:
before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.
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To be clear...are you talkign about the color of the clock tiles themselves, directly behind the letters? Or the background (wallpaper) on the home tab?
At first I thought you meant the border around the bottom half of the clock, where the weather shows up...but you shouldn't have that on a 6.1 ROM..
the two tone gray background of the clock itself, if it is at all possible without changing the clock numbers. I can swipe my finger "up" and then the numbers on the clock become smaller and the background goes away....thats what im after. and thanks for not railing on me, I may have alot of posts but 97% or more are questions lol but im getting better.
Tregrad said:
the two tone gray background of the clock itself, if it is at all possible without changing the clock numbers. I can swipe my finger "up" and then the numbers on the clock become smaller and the background goes away....thats what im after. and thanks for not railing on me, I may have alot of posts but 97% or more are questions lol but im getting better.
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No problem What you're talking about is the clock tiles, and they are certainly replacable with custom ones. The trick is determining exactly what version of TF3D or Sense you have, you'll have to know that to know which custom clocks to look for and download.
Do you have an "About" entry on the "settings" tab? If so it'll tell you what version you have. If you don't see that there, you can just look it up in the registry (I'll show you where)...do you have a regedit app? (Total Commander, PHM_regedit, etc)
this is why i never delve too much into this stuff but am starting to. way too much stuff to keep up with while trying to run my own buisness, thanks for your help
I have winmo 6.1 CD OS 5.2.21052
I dont know what "sence" i have ....if any at all lol.
and all i want to do is make the clock tile transparent or just delete it if possible.
Tregrad said:
this is why i never delve too much into this stuff but am starting to. way too much stuff to keep up with while trying to run my own buisness, thanks for your help
I have winmo 6.1 CD OS 5.2.21052
I dont know what "sence" i have ....if any at all lol.
and all i want to do is make the clock tile transparent or just delete it if possible.
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I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you
osrix25 said:
I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you
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Ok yeah I have the same version as Tregrad (TF3D 2.1), and that manila file worked just fine on mine when I tested it...it makes the clock tiles 100% transparent.
However, getting that manila file into the right place on your phone takes a little doing...do you (Tregrad) know how to copy files into and out of your phone's /windows directory?
Maybe someone would be willing to cab that up for you to make it easier...but if not, we can show you how to get it on there and working.
sirphunkee said:
Ok yeah I have the same version as Tregrad (TF3D 2.1), and that manila file worked just fine on mine when I tested it...it makes the clock tiles 100% transparent.
However, getting that manila file into the right place on your phone takes a little doing...do you (Tregrad) know how to copy files into and out of your phone's /windows directory?
Maybe someone would be willing to cab that up for you to make it easier...but if not, we can show you how to get it on there and working.
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You tested and it works ok? I can cab it up later ( i'm not on pc right now), where does it want to be? just straight into Windows folder? I would have cab'd it staight away but thought someone had better test it first!
so should i wait for the cab or what? or can i just drop the file in the windows directory? and thanks again for your help fellas.
Tregrad said:
so should i wait for the cab or what? or can i just drop the file in the windows directory? and thanks again for your help fellas.
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if you can just drop in the windows folder, there's no real need for a cab just makes it more convenient is all! go ahead and try it out i'm dying to know if it works! See if you can find the matching file first and back it up though...I would
ok will give it a shot right now
no change at all hmmm copied orig file and put it in a folder on my pc and "replaced" existing file with the new one and rebooted but nothing happened.
osrix25 said:
I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you
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where are the "HOME settings"?
Tregrad said:
where are the "HOME settings"?
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Start...settings...today..items... will get you there
dont even have an option to untick manilla
Ok heres the Cab, sorry for the delay!!
there must be a tick box in "Items" Under today settings, and it will be Manila or TF3d or something HTC related! its been so long since i used this ROm i can't remember
So untick whatever it is and then install the cab then retick and it should have overwritten....Good Luck
ok tf3d is ticked, I am going to try the file thing first then if that doesnt work then i will try the cab, thanks.
nope, none of it worked. unticked, ran cab, wanted to restart - let it do so, restarted then re-ticked tf3d and nothing happened?
should i delete the existing file? if it isnt there then it wont want to run it right and since i just want it gone it wouldnt hurt right?
I have to go for now be back in a few hours. thanks again for all your efforts os!
Tregrad said:
nope, none of it worked. unticked, ran cab, wanted to restart - let it do so, restarted then re-ticked tf3d and nothing happened?
should i delete the existing file? if it isnt there then it wont want to run it right and since i just want it gone it wouldnt hurt right?
I have to go for now be back in a few hours. thanks again for all your efforts os!
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i know it says weather clock but it worked for me when i had 6.1, give it a try, wont hurt

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