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Just how bad is the sms problem?

I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks

Non-existent, if you have the 1.6.1 ROM

No problems at all even on 1.43 ROM

Never had any problem with sms.

After flashing 1.61 no more SMS issue (as well as no other bugs so far, still testing...)

t-mobile
ROM 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE - Set up the phone, sent text with RSVP and got one back seconds later.
Same with email.

geekyhawkes said:
I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
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There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.

never had a problem with SMS. ROM 1.48

Where can you find the 1.61 ROM?
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?

thijazi said:
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
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It's a leaked rom so you might want to check out the leo rom sub forum.

I am not having any issues with SMS getting stuck in the out box.
I am however getting the slow down when loading SMS threads. With about 30 messages its getting slow. Not terrible but compared to instant when i started it seems horrible.

Never had any problems with SMS, with 1.43 or 1.48.

I have no idea, what is sms problem this phone work awsome out of the box.
You wanna see fu*ked up phone try lg viewty or other lg crap...

I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?

Toss3 said:
There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
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In regards to sms bug 1: I'm running 1.61 rom and the messages I sent today I've still not received any delivery reports for.

no1 had this problem??
receive are all 2-3 minutes too early (time is not match with own mobile time clock) as it basic on sender time and so put the text conversation out of sync.

wiltonson said:
I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
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It most certainly does. I'm with O2 and have this problem, also the occasional text going to a different (and non-requested) recipient!

HTC have provided a hotfix today for SMS issues. I havent experienced the problem myself so am interested to see if the problem is resolved.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407

Nope that hotfix didnt fix anything. I still have messages sitting in outbox for hours now..
humbug
(ps, using the ROM 1.48)

i still had time stamp error

muliple issues with HD2, seem to be getting worse... please help.

hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.

[email protected] said:
hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.
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sorry i do not experience this problem at all and i believe this is uncommon. there is a new sms function update hotfix posted by HTC couple of days back. this updates the messenging client to 2016. try it.

did you try uninstalling your sms cab that you are using and trying that for a few days to see if you still get the freezes? If you are stock you should try the previous posters suggestion and update your ROM and try it without the sms cab and see how it goes.

thanks for the tips guys, ill have a look at the hotfixes. with the telstra ROM i have, i can use the HTC SMS client without the major lag issues - but i still prefer the WINMO client for the folder support and other functions that are absent in the HTC client.
ill check out your suggestions, and let you know how it goes.
cheers again for taking the time to read and reply.

after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.

[email protected] said:
after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.
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i'm running 1.66 ROM and is still able to install. I still think there is no harm downloading and try installing the hotfix. if it says unable to install, so be it. =)

fair call, im downloading it now. will certainly let you know how it goes.
thanks mate.

I installed HTC's SMS hotfix, and it seems they have increased the folder support in their SMS client. previously... from what i can remember, they had only a few SMS folders visible in their client, i think it was 'inbox', 'sent' and 'drafts'. now they have increased this and added 'outbox' and 'deleted items'.
anyway, this newer version of the HTC SMS client is much more usable than previous incarnations of this client.
and having removed zenyees SMS patch... i have had no repeat offences of any of the above listed issues. it has only been 12 hours-ish... but it is looking good so far.
the only problem i have now with the HTC SMS client is the integration with S2U2 (SMS slide to view defaults to conversation mode in the HTC client - i would prefer traditional mode). and also there is a text selection issue in the new message screen. i use the swype SIP and i frequently need to fix up my incorrect word inputs, in the WINMO client, this was easy (double tap the word, the select the correct word from the word suggestion list), however... in the HTC SMS client... double tapping does not select text, sometimes if i tap 4 times i can select the word and promt swype's word suggestion list to appear... but not always).
but these issues with HTC's SMS client are far more tolerable than the problems i was experiencing with the WINMO client.
thanks for all your help guys.
i will keep you posted on further developments.
cheers.

Glad that the hotfix helps in one way or another. On the other hand, now we all knows this hotfix doesn't actually limit to ROM 1.66 and below.

it does seem to increase to functionality of the HTC SMS client. but between 1 ROM upgrade and almost never using the HTC client... i cannot be 100% sure that these new 'features' are infact new. i know the 1.6X telstra ROM had a pretty weak HTC SMS client, and they did improve it alot for the 1.7X ROM - lessened the lag, and a few other fixes. after i upgraded to the 1.7X ROM, i still used the SMS patch to have the WINMO client as my default... so i never payed to much attention to that version of the HTC SMS client.
as i posted above, i have now noticed the improved folder support in the HTC SMS client... but i cant be 100% sure that this is a result of the 1.7X ROM upgrade... of the SMS hotfix. though i do think it was the hotfix, and the hotfix certainly did install without issue.
so if anyone else is using the latest telstra stock ROM.... what is the HTC SMS client like? enhanced folder support? less lag?
cheers again.

Email Notification sound together with SMS Notification

Dear all members,
I have encounter some problem with the notification when receiving a new SMS, it will sound the email notification with the icon on the top of the phone.
But when I check the inbox, there is no email at all.
Anyone can tell me how to resolve the problem?

Seems like nobody has this problem before?

I've had this issue since upgrading to the 1.72 O2 ROM but not sure how to fix it so just live with it as it's not all the time just randomly happens.

I have the same problem! Had this problem since I first got the phone last month. Been trying to google a solution but nothing is coming up and im running T-mobile usa stock rom

Guys,
I notice this problem after applying the Hotfix released by HTC asia website.

chongbh said:
Guys,
I notice this problem after applying the Hotfix released by HTC asia website.
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hotfix? whats that? I know for sure I don't have that.

Hmmm... I had similar problem too, when in SMS settings i add one person to VIP and i can't saw SMS from this person - i hear incoming SMS sound and nothing except.
Did you play with Safe inbox?

Legend SMS Reading Problem

Hi All
I wonder does anyone noticed that when reading sms on my legend. I could not see the latest sms on top. if you have more than 100 sms from one contact you have to scroll down in order to see the newest sms. Any solution for that issue. Please Help me!!

Everyone who updated the phone software recently is having this issue, very annoying...

I switched to handcent messaging... it is a very decent alternative and it shows the last message on top.

Extremely annoying.

I also installed handcent but when ı read the sms the notification remains on the bar.

realized that problem after reading this thread. the problem exist with the default SMS application.. I recently changed to Handcent and it isn't affected by that.. plus Handcent is pretty nice and all
@lifeis, have you disabled the notification option for your default SMS application? you have to do that to let Handcent "take over" the default one

I switched to Chomp. Waiting for 2.2 ........
edit: reply from HTC Taiwan
"With regards to your enquiry, the message sorting order is default by google phones. However, we will forward your request to Google and HTC."

SMS Threads
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!

everybody is having the same problems regarding the sms bug. try sending an email to htc to voice out your concern and hopefully they can do something asap or we might just get used to it.

He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend! [/QUOTE]
Oh dear lol
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

josh_james15 said:
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!
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I got this reply from HTC Taiwan:
"The official upgrade for Android 2.2 is not confirmed yet. Desire will release the upgrade earlier than Legend. As Europe already releases the 2.2 upgrade, Taiwan is expecting for its own release soon. However, the exact date for Legend is still not set."

I don't have this problem
It's weird because I'm not having this issue.
Software version: 2.05.405.2
It's a vodafone debranded phone, in spanish

VF eforum thread, anyone with a VF branded phone with the fault please report back to VF in the thread below. They don't see to understand its a fault and still just collecting feedback so LET THEM KNOW !
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/69991-htc-legend-2051611-software-update/page__st__40?

SMS-Threaded-Issue Suggestions
I really like the look of the native SMS app that comes with the phone. However, it misplaces the threaded sms.
HTC support is as sh!tty as it is. I sent them bunch emails, their final answer is "sending in the phone for repair".
Anyways, around April - May 2010, I tried Handcent & ChompSMS. I chose Handcent. The app was good & all, then the updates, then now lots of force-closes. So I switched back to the native app & learned to live with it.
The problem of the native app is that it SLOWS tremendously, especially if you have so many conversations with so many people.
My final solution is the purchase of the Desire (giving the missy my Legend).
With the Desire's Eclair 2.1-update1, the native SMS app STILL suffers from the same problem of the Legend. However, the lag is zero. INSTANTANEOUSLY.. I was VERY CONTENT.
My Desire is recently updated to Froyo 2.2 & it fixes the threaded sms misplace. So, I'm EXTREMELY content now.
So, my recommendation is:
1. Try to live with the native app & wait for Froyo 2.2
2. Try Handcent & ChompSMS & pick your preference.
3. Get the Desire & you'll be as happy as a kid in the candy store.

That's the answer that I got from HTC:
Thank you for contacting us, We apologize for the delay in answering your email, Kindly be informed that currently there is no way to change the sorting of your messages. There may be 3rd party applications that can solve your problem, and you can try searching the market for applications that match your needs. Please note that we are currently analyzing this issue and will determine if this will be addressed in a possible future update. As for the Froyo upgrade, we expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Legend and Wildfire during Q3.

[Q] SMS recieved days afer sending

My wife and I have both having this problem with our HD2. I searched both the US and EU forums for a solution, maybe I searched the wrong terms. I posted in the Energy thread as well as I am running an Energy ROM. No solution yet. Posting here for better visibility.
With my phone only certain contacts take days to get messages. Some contacts get them right away as they should. My wife's phone takes days for any and all SMS to reach any and all contacts. Needless to say I need to fix this ASAP.
I am running the 9/4 Energy GTX and my wife is one the 8/28 Energy GTX, both 23xxx. I have the NRGZ28 HTC messaging cab installed via XDA_UC on both phones.
UPDATE:
So I was trying a few things I had found with my phone to get things working again. My wife finally brings me her phone and I send my phone a test message from her phone. I get it immediately then immediately get messages on her phone from several people saying that they just received all the messages she had tried to send them for the last couple days. One person said they just received over 15 messages at one time. Her phone seems to be working fine now as far as we can tell. She is still not getting my text messages. I also noticed that If I select a contact and try to view the conversation in that manner there are no messages.

Go to the messages tab, then click on all messages, then click touch menu then settings then options, then scroll down till you see delivery change that to immediate. That should fix your problem

Koolkidz said:
Go to the messages tab, then click on all messages, then click touch menu then settings then options, then scroll down till you see delivery change that to immediate. That should fix your problem
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I will try that on my wife's phone when I get home. I do think I am just going to re-flash her phone just in case. I am somewhat confident that it was an issue with installing HTC messaging onto the Energy ROM. Uninstalling it via application management (I did this on my phone) completely hoses messaging in general.
I have flashed my phone to Energy's September 8th GTX ROM (no HTC messaging?) and did not install the HTC messaging cab. All seems well now. The thing I did not like about the messaging client that Energy uses (Standared WM? messaging) is the stupid comic bubble display for messages. I found where to turn that off though so I don't feel the need to have HTC messaging installed/enabled.