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Although I paid the outmost attention while I was installing it, my Boxwave Crystal got some dust and bubbles (especially in the edges). I noticed that these imperfections cannot be seen when the screen is on, but for the heck of it, I want to ask: is it normal or am I simply incompetent?! :?
After getting a fine scratch on my (then) new 3970 I put on a PPC Techs protector and had the same trouble as you.
When I replaced the 3970 with a 4700 earlier this year, I had the screen protector waiting before I unpacked the iPAQ... Same tiny fluff and bubbles.
Now, after putting them on the two 9100's we have, I still can't get them perfect
Guess that just means we're both hopeless
Dox
I don't think anyone can get them perfect.
put mine on today. thought it was perfect but still bloody dust under it. sigh.
Lewis
It's a pain to do I must admit but I've managed to get mine almost "perfect" over about 99% of the screen. It's just around the extreme edges that I've got some bubbles and issues where I'd forced it to go down onto the screen but the rim of the case was just in the way.
If you find that you can't do it first time, then get some sticky tape and put that on the side that sticks to the screen. make sure the tape on one of the edges is right up to the end of the screen protector and the other end of the tape folded over so you've got something to pull the tape off of the screen with when applying.
The tape magically takes off the dust so that when you're applying it to the screenal you need to do is try to make sure no dust particles exist.
You could always try hiring out a chip fabrication unit where they're hermatically sealed too...
I've done a few Ultraclear versions and got it down to a fine art.
1. Be calm. Allow youself plenty of time. If you make a mistake, take a deep breath and start again. Don't rush or you'll end up ruining the film. Even though I've done this several times, I still allow myself half an hour.
2. Trim the narrow edge off an old credit card so it has a straight edge with sharp corners, and get some screenwipes or lint free cloth.
3. Do the fitting in a steamy room. I use the bathroom with the hot shower going. This drops all the dust particles in the air and elimates static which attracts dust/fluff to the protector.
4. Wash and rinse your hands thoroughly to remove all grease and soap.
5. Clean the PPC screen with a screenwipe then barely damp cloth. The humidity from the steam will help you to get a mirror finish.
6. Wash the protector under a warm running tap until thoroughly clean. Hold by the edges to avoid fingerprints and flick several times to remove excess water. You will end up with a few tiny droplets of water left that you can't shift. Don't worry as these help the sealing process. Don't wipe them off as this will just load it up with fibres!
7. Apply to PPC screen middle first. Immediatley wipe out bubbles by sweeping you finger from the middle to the edges. Smooth out firmly but lightly with the credit card using the sharp corners to expel air and water from the extreme edges.
8. If the protector is not straight, so the screen surround is fouling the edges, DON'T force them down - you'll just permanently distort the film so the edges will never lie flat on the screen. The tiny water droplets trapped under the protector may allow you to slide the film slightly so it pops in place - if not, peel off gently taking care not to bend the film, and start from scratch again - that means right back to the cleaning stage.
9. Once you've got it lying flat, smooth any small bubbles out with the credit card. Don't apply too much pressure as this could scratch or cause the film to move. Instead, use light, repeated strokes.
10. Wipe gently round the edges with the cloth to remove any excess expelled water so it doesn't find it's way into the device.
10. The little bit of moisture under the card will dry out within 24 hours. Resmooth the film regularly in that period with the credit card, to eliminate any small bubbles, or lifting of the edges, that appear as it dries. If you have to use the device, carry the credit card with you for the first couple of days so you can smooth it immediatley before any dust gets under the edges.
11. Keep the backing films in a safe place. You'll need these to gently slide under the protector shoud you ever need to remove it and re-apply.
Result - perfectly clear protector that is virtually invisible.
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3. Do the fitting in a steamy room. I use the bathroom with the hot shower going. This drops all the dust particles in the air and elimates static which attracts dust/fluff to the protector.
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I also use the bathroom but hadn't thought of the steam - nice idea.
I find it easier to handle the protector by creating a 'T' of adhesive tape which I place on the centre of the protector before removing the backing, that way I can hold it without touching the edges - the opaque scotch tape is the best and can be used to remove the protector too.
Great ideas everyone. Thank you for your feedback!
After trying some more times I got it right with slight dust, hair, bubbles. I'm pleased.
thanx
thank you guys for cool advice, i'll try it soon ..
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The tape magically takes off the dust so that when you're applying it to the screenal you need to do is try to make sure no dust particles exist.
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I can confirm after numerous efforts to get rid of the dust, this is by far the best and most crucial solution-step! I managed a 90-95% success with the protector leaving some openings only at the edges, but in the middle nothing. Thanks for the info!!!
at first i didnt really see this as a disadvantage because i thought the recessed screen would keep scratches away and stuff...
but on a touch device it really is a pain to keep clean and to clean at all because the dirt gets dragged into the edges and is hard to get out.
any tips how to get the screen really clean in a short time ? Right no its driving me nuts to clean the screen everyday for several minutes...with a screen like the Touch Pro i could just wipe the dirt away
I wish I could give some advice but I think were all stuck. I think the majority of people either get a case or some of those screen protectors, wether im in the minority or not, I hate putting things in cases or putting extra bits and pieces on. Mine does get lots of finger prints on the screen but I find a good rub with a micro fibre cloth when I get home works a treat, though the corners can be a pain.
I get quite worried pressing too hard because it's touch screen, but it's the only thing to really get it clean.
You could always use some specialist screen cleaner but having to buy the stuff all the time can be an annoyance.
use something wet. barely wet. not too wet
First blow off the dust if any. Wash your hands, wipe your hands in a soft tissue and with this wet tissue, wipe the screen. This is what barely wet means. This leaves no dried water marks on screen too.
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use something wet. barely wet. not too wet
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I use Clearview TFT Screen cleaner, just spray a tiny bit on the microfiber cloth, its great stuff
Q-tip
I use a Microfibre cloth for the main screen, but then i have q-tips that I use to get in the corners. Works perfectly...
Tape can be used to lift fingerprints and dust off the screen.
Run a slightly damp Q-Tip cotton-bud round the edges to get the gunk out
the edges are the difficult part, the rest is quite easy to keep clean.
Ill try the Qtip for the edges, thx for all the input
For years I have always used lens cleaner (that you would use for cleaning spectacles) It's really cheap and removes grease without smears, and is perfectly safe.
Whilst in the opticians or chemist grab a lens cloth too (again the same you'd use on your specs) works a treat and again really cheap.
Finally I have a little carbon fibre brush which gets the dust and fluff from those recesses.
Oooohh such pampering for my beloved X1
I had a Tilt and a screen protector that was just a plastic. It's reusable because I would just tuck the plastics into the edge of the screen.
Now, I got a Brando Screen Protector at home, which states reusable.
How are these washable/reusable screen protectors work with our phones? Is it pretty secure to wash and put it back on? I did it a lot with my tilt but I have no idea about the screen protectors regarding the Fuze.
currently I have a crappy one I bought from BestBuy and it is all scratched up, so thinking about switching to my Brando one.
Thanks in advance!
Rytt
With most screen protectors you can wash them in light soapy water (maybe dip it in a cup with light soapy water). Shake the screen protector to shake off excess water, then use a blow drywer to dry off the rest of the water. You might have to do this a few times. You might catch some more dirt. (!)
Sometimes this works...sometimes it doesn't and you're just screwed and ending up having to buy another.
I've been using Martin Fields and haven't have a problem with washing them. You just need to be in an area that is dust free and clean.
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With most screen protectors you can wash them in light soapy water (maybe dip it in a cup with light soapy water). Shake the screen protector to shake off excess water, then use a blow drywer to dry off the rest of the water. You might have to do this a few times. You might catch some more dirt. (!)
Sometimes this works...sometimes it doesn't and you're just screwed and ending up having to buy another.
I've been using Martin Fields and haven't have a problem with washing them. You just need to be in an area that is dust free and clean.
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How does it stay on your screen then if you wash it in water?
Doesn't the sticky part of the SP stop sticking?
No, actually it works really well just rinsing it under warm water (I didn't use any soap). I'd say 100% that it's definitely re-usable.
I was wiping fingerprints off mine on a wool blanket and a corner came up, half the screen protector came off, and the underside rubbed against the blanket, picking up a ton of dirt and fibers.
I took it off and rinsed it off pretty forcefully, and even used my fingernail to scrape the dirt and fibers off. When I was done it felt like the adhesive was mostly gone while damp but as it dried it was sticky again. I flicked off most of the water and put it on the freshly windexed phone (spray the towel once, not the phone!). There were still some tiny water droplets on the protector when I put it on but I gently squeezed them to the edge as I put it back on and they all squeezed out.
The protector still has a slightly mottled appearance which I figured was from scraping all the adhesive off in some areas but it turns out it's tiny amounts of moisture under the protector. Over the next 24 hours the mottled appearance dried and faded and the protector was like new again, 100% crystal clear. It even still great adhesive abilities even though I was literally scrapping at it under the warm water.
At the mall I notice the people that do the invisi-shield covers do it the basically the same way but use a hair drier to get rid of the mottled appearance quicker.
Bottom line. I scrubbed the protector pretty good because I thought it was a lost cause and afterward is was as good as new (better since it's on straight now with no edges to catch), so don't be too afraid to wash an re-use it if the underside gets dirty. Plus I make it sound like there is a risk of getting your phone wet but only if you drop it in the sink. The amount of water on the protector after flicking it few times is no more than if you get a few snowflakes on it and wipe them off with your hand.
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No, actually it works really well just rinsing it under warm water (I didn't use any soap). I'd say 100% that it's definitely re-usable.
I was wiping fingerprints off mine on a wool blanket and a corner came up, half the screen protector came off, and the underside rubbed against the blanket, picking up a ton of dirt and fibers.
I took it off and rinsed it off pretty forcefully, and even used my fingernail to scrape the dirt and fibers off. When I was done it felt like the adhesive was mostly gone while damp but as it dried it was sticky again. I flicked off most of the water and put it on the freshly windexed phone (spray the towel once, not the phone!). There were still some tiny water droplets on the protector when I put it on but I gently squeezed them to the edge as I put it back on and they all squeezed out.
The protector still has a slightly mottled appearance which I figured was from scraping all the adhesive off in some areas but it turns out it's tiny amounts of moisture under the protector. Over the next 24 hours the mottled appearance dried and faded and the protector was like new again, 100% crystal clear. It even still great adhesive abilities even though I was literally scrapping at it under the warm water.
At the mall I notice the people that do the invisi-shield covers do it the basically the same way but use a hair drier to get rid of the mottled appearance quicker.
Bottom line. I scrubbed the protector pretty good because I thought it was a lost cause and afterward is was as good as new (better since it's on straight now with no edges to catch), so don't be too afraid to wash an re-use it if the underside gets dirty. Plus I make it sound like there is a risk of getting your phone wet but only if you drop it in the sink. The amount of water on the protector after flicking it few times is no more than if you get a few snowflakes on it and wipe them off with your hand.
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Thanks! I will put on my Brando shortly! Hope it works as wells as you said!
So here's one of the few pet peeves I have about the Aria. The camera lens is recessed in the case, and it collects dust. My mother has the same phone (got hers a year before me), and she always complained that the pictures were not sharp. I looked at the phone, and the lens had picked up a significant amount of lint and dust from being in her pocket. Is there any way to prevent this? Perhaps a case that covers that area with a clear panel? I might just slap a bit of screen protector over the area. Of course, it's easy to clean it off with a qtip, but i'd rather avoid the problem alltogether.
Get a microfiber cloth and place it over the camera hole, then get a pencil and use the tip to push on the hole and clear the lense
Signatures are fancy.
Qtips work for me.they fit perfect.
As far as prevention goes ,I have no clue.seems like you would have distortion from a piece of screen protector or similar. Give it a try who knows.
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So here's one of the few pet peeves I have about the Aria. The camera lens is recessed in the case, and it collects dust. My mother has the same phone (got hers a year before me), and she always complained that the pictures were not sharp. I looked at the phone, and the lens had picked up a significant amount of lint and dust from being in her pocket. Is there any way to prevent this? Perhaps a case that covers that area with a clear panel? I might just slap a bit of screen protector over the area. Of course, it's easy to clean it off with a qtip, but i'd rather avoid the problem alltogether.
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One of my very few peeves with this phone. The only practical remedy I've found for it is to get a holster for the phone. Its still convenient for spur of the moment pics and its safer than your pocket anyways. Also, I work in construction and it gets really bad with dust and dirt at work so what I do is I have a piece of duct tape stuck to the inside back of a silicone case I only use for work. I don't use the camera or speaker at work so it works.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
This is also my only issue with the phone. I usually use a Q-Tip, but that's if I'm at home really. On the road all of my pictures have a "haze" to them.
The same problem here. I need to keep cleaning the lens out with a bud or microfiber cloth. Pictures get all hazy otherwise.
That and the speaker crackles at max volume.. my only two complaints about this lovely device.
Same boat here. The speaker crackling is most annoying. I use a Q-tip for the lens.
Q-tip. Works great. You can also flip the silicone case to cover the lens and switch it when you need to.
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yea the speakers arent the best. I work at a sheet metal fab shop, so alway's getting lazer dust around the speaker, and it does crackle at high volume,
you can pick up replacement speakers for about $14.99
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http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-aria-screen-replacement-and-parts.html
got my screen from there. quality parts.
yea there really isnt anything that can PREVENT dust from the camera screen. just keep some q tips in your car ( thats what i do there cheap enough ) and some cleaning solution. ive found that my wifes eye contact solution works good with a qtip.
find maybe a snap on case, or something, that helps keep it out of your pockets.
Try this
I have made some little foam stoppers to push into the hole to keep the dust out. I took a thin (about 1/4") sheet of foam that was used as packing for electronic components, and then used a one hole paper punch to punch out the stoppers. They stay in pretty well, but they're kind of hard to get back out. I can remove it with my fingernail, but not very quickly. Those with long nails might fair better.
Everyone knows that humans are basically disgusting oily creatures. As such our SGN10.1 screens get very funky very fast.
I have tried many different methods for cleaning my screen. Here is the one I have found by far cleans the fastest and the best:
Simple rubbing alcohol on some TP, wipe then clean off with a clean peace of TP.
- - Some folks have advised me against this due to the coating on the screen. I will consider other options.
For me this instantly puts the screen in super clean, just out of the box condition.
* I haven't found anything yet that truly prevent finger funk attaching itself to the screen. Tried Rain-x etc but found that tended to leave a slight haze.
Any other ideas?
So the best place to clean it is while filing paperwork in the office?
Sorry, I just use a microfiber cloth to wipe my screen down.
I use those Zeiss lens wipes you can get in a bulk pack at Sam's for like 10$. It's a box of like 500 of them. I used them for everything from glasses, to cleaning my S3 screen, to cleaning my tablets and even the back and cases for all my devices. Works great, handy, cheap, safe. Go get a box.
Spit and cotton
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mitchellvii said:
Everyone knows that humans are basically disgusting oily creatures. As such our SGN10.1 screens get very funky very fast.
I have tried many different methods for cleaning my screen. Here is the one I have found by far cleans the fastest and the best:
Simple rubbing alcohol on some TP, wipe then clean off with a clean peace of TP.
For me this instantly puts the screen in super clean, just out of the box condition.
* I haven't found anything yet that truly prevent finger funk attaching itself to the screen. Tried Rain-x etc but found that tended to leave a slight haze.
Any other ideas?
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I use a microfiber cloth, I think it is the best solution, as other material easy can scratch the screen (micro scratches)
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why not just cutting the paper tissue in half, one half for wetting and the other half for drying.
water is gentle on the different components and does the job.
Magic spray glass cleaner in a aerosol spray can it's a foam cleaner and resist dirt and poly films. You can get it nearly everywhere like home depot and auto parts stores.use of for bathroom mirrors windows computer screens and our touch devices. Ohh and car window's what its made for. Invisable glass is another equal in quality
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mitchellvii said:
Everyone knows that humans are basically disgusting oily creatures. As such our SGN10.1 screens get very funky very fast.
I have tried many different methods for cleaning my screen. Here is the one I have found by far cleans the fastest and the best:
Simple rubbing alcohol on some TP, wipe then clean off with a clean peace of TP.
For me this instantly puts the screen in super clean, just out of the box condition.
* I haven't found anything yet that truly prevent finger funk attaching itself to the screen. Tried Rain-x etc but found that tended to leave a slight haze.
Any other ideas?
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Erica is very clean. But not dishwasher safe.read above post for cleaning instructions. Use microfiber never paper products they all have ink dies in them that can leave a film
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So the best place to clean it is while filing paperwork in the office?
Sorry, I just use a microfiber cloth to wipe my screen down.
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Ditto. Best thing I've found. If I have a bit of something to remove that the cloth alone won't handle I turn my Note off and wipe the gunk off with a very slightly dampened corner of the same cloth. Dry the screen thoroughly and I'm back in business.
It is not recommended to use cleaners due to the screen coating and the need to preserve it.
matte screen protector goes a longggg way. No oily residue, no cleaning, no glare
I use acetone on thick-grit sandpaper... if the fingerprints still don't come off, I just replace the glass with some plastic wrap from the supermarket; cheap and they sell it by the roll.
Honestly though, I have this problem and was thinking about using rainx. For now, I just sit there for 5 minute pushing down on it with my shirt
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I have found that a little moisture and a micocloth works best but I have also found that it cleans much better if you use a soft touch like you were polising it rather than trying to wipe off the fingerprints etc.
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I have found that a little moisture and a micocloth works best but I have also found that it cleans much better if you use a soft touch like you were polising it rather than trying to wipe off the fingerprints etc.
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Exactly.
I using normal cleaning spray for LCD display. U can found it easy in computer shop. But i found much better cleaning detergent by using spray detergent for cleaning window/mirror, we call it "magic clean" spray. Much cleaner n easy to clean by single wipe. I try to give link, but could not found one. Its just a cheap clean detergent
P/s: did i forget to mention, im using screen protector
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Alcohol is an abrasive material. It creates millions of micro scratches. It will for sure remove oil due to its abrasiveness but for sure is taking away stuff it doesn't need to - the protective quoting digitizers come with. There are spray fluids to clean glass surfaces like those use to de-oil and de-fog your sun and eye glasses, and this contain a miniscule concentration of alcohol among other agents but for not as much as the 70% present in rubbing alcohol.
I tried alcohol way back when I started using eye glasses and I noticed that after a while the glasses picked up some sort of fogginess that never came out even after trying soap and what not - that's the millions of micro scratches I was talking about.
The advise by the other member to tear a paper tower in half and wetting with WATER and drying is the best advise IMO (and past experience).
Ron
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Alcohol is an abrasive material. It creates millions of micro scratches. It will for sure remove oil due to its abrasiveness but for sure is taking away stuff it doesn't need to - the protective quoting digitizers come with. There are spray fluids to clean glass surfaces like those use to de-oil and de-fog your sun and eye glasses, and this contain a miniscule concentration of alcohol among other agents but for not as much as the 70% present in rubbing alcohol.
I tried alcohol way back when I started using eye glasses and I noticed that after a while the glasses picked up some sort of fogginess that never came out even after trying soap and what not - that's the millions of micro scratches I was talking about.
The advise by the other member to tear a paper tower in half and wetting with WATER and drying is the best advise IMO (and past experience).
Ron
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Well, that no alcohol warning comes primarily from Apple because the new iPad has an oleophobic coating on the screen to prevent smudges. I do not believe our Note has that coating. If it does it sure is doing a lousy job. I honestly do not believe alcohol itself is abrasive. Nevertheless I will check out some of the glass products at the hardware store to see what they have. I have tried glass cleaners before and they left the screen foggy and smudged.
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Well, that no alcohol warning comes primarily from Apple because the new iPad has an oleophobic coating on the screen to prevent smudges. I do not believe our Note has that coating. If it does it sure is doing a lousy job. I honestly do not believe alcohol itself is abrasive. Nevertheless I will check out some of the glass products at the hardware store to see what they have. I have tried glass cleaners before and they left the screen foggy and smudged.
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Digitizers come with a protective coating.
Ok well whatever coating it is doesn't prevent finger smudges worth a damn. I'll look at some other products.
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Alcohol is only abrasive like a solvent in that it can etch some materials or remove coatings but it is not abrasive like sand or grit.
I used Auto Glym glass polish and it worked a treat. Though I don't think it would be good as it probably contains a mild abrasive. Though it did work wonders. I now have a screen cover that I wipe over gently with a microfibre cloth.
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Ok well whatever coating it is doesn't prevent finger smudges worth a damn. I'll look at some other products.
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Yes it does have an oleophobic coating, if you'venscratched your screen, its in that coating. Gorrilla glass really is nearly unscratchable
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