Related
the hardware say there is a FM radio chip, but where is the FM radio?
do we need to install a FM radio program?
Sorry could you reference where it says that there is an FM Tuner?
I was under the impression that there wasnt one, its not listed on Googles specs for the N1
i saw it in another website , not in google specification
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/2
see step14:
the Bluetooth and 802.11n wireless is provided by a Broadcom (BRCM) BCM4329 chip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and on Broadcom site:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
FM radio receiver and transmitter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
interesting
kolyan said:
interesting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed
Being an FM transmitter, does that mean its a receiver also?
EDIT: Nevermind, its both
That's interesting. Maybe they intend to use the FM transmitter for something interesting. Couldn't be simple as audio through car stereo on 88.7 and the like or could it?
Well, they might have just intended that to be for wifi/bluetooth like it is in the iPod Touch 3rd gen(same chip). But who knows, maybe they'll provide FM-radio support to the Android API some time down the road?
Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
i think it is radio's fault
if google give us a new radio with fm and maybe some extra mb ram it will work just fine
eesmm said:
Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
Paul22000 said:
I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has the hardware...there is a Gizmodo (think it was them) teardown of N1. Discusses the FM capabilities. Also...Desire and N1 have same hardware on the inside (different trackball feature and buttons..but the same). There are posts around the forums confirming this by Modaco and some others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/ was Ifixit.com, reported on engadget
Paul22000 said:
I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
[...]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
eesmm said:
The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
It's possible we may never get this feature working. Not a big deal to me, though. Pandora works fine!
pjcforpres said:
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The headphones don't have the receiver in it. it simply uses the headphone cable as an Antenna just like the iPod Nano's built in radio.
pjcforpres said:
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
faizalmzain said:
any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes and no... if the chip set itself has FM, which the Nexus seems to have, then this is true. But for many "dumb" phones it is the head set itself. This is why I said may need the Desires headphones, and then went on to say it seems more like a lack of a completed ROM/app, since you can tune, just no sound.
would love to see FM radio working on my N1
zmalach said:
would love to see FM radio working on my N1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
teleknEsis said:
+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a good point.
Exactly why I have my ipod Nano..
KEVIN AND BEAN!! I MUST LISTEN TO YOU... oh yea and loveline... only reasons I would want an FM radio...
teleknEsis said:
+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not available in the UK though.
i hope we can tune in on FM soon....
I'm not sure I would use the FM radio every day, sure, but it's an important feature nonetheless. For fast local news with minimal battery drain there's nothing like having a radio handy.
Many of the on-line radio services are great/better, but require you to use precious data bandwidth, and I resent that. I don't like the idea of my phone being a gateway for the phone company to make more money off me. I spend most of my life within wifi hotspots, and use the cellular web service as little as possible. Apps, audio books, and presynched RSS feeds can pass the remaining time.
For example, I was shopping for an iPhone in the final months of '09, and the cell companies all offered to "unlock" the GPS function of the iPhone "for three months for free". Hang on, I asked, the iPhone has its own GPS, so why a) would I need them to "unlock" the capability and b) I would have to pay for my own GPS after the first three months? I learned that, while the GPS coordinates come for free, the maps are the domain of the cell company. Screw that.
One of the best features of the N1 is the built-in Google maps, and while I might be willing to pay one-time for TomTom maps or software (the best GPS OS imho) but pay every month forever, no way.
I can't remember where I saw it but I remember reading that the Incredible can use the built in FM Tuner to broadcast the sound out of the car speakers rather than just receive FM signal to play on the phone. Does anyone know anything about this?
you would need an FM transmitter to do that and I don't think it has one built-in.
Not sure it would probably need some type of application or hack to get it to do that not sure it does it put of the box though.
Supposedly the chip has that capability, but it may need an antenna which may or may not be installed, and it hasn't been advertised as a feature.
It is unlikely this will work out of the box, and may never work without opening the phone.
But we won't know until someone finds a way to turn on that part of the chip
EDIT: And for the naysayers, This has an FM tuner out of the box... we're talking about an FM modulator, which the chip *does* support, whether HTC implemented it is the unknown
fm tuner just means you can listen to the radio on your phone... if it said FM modulator then it would mean you can transmit fm signal out of it...
vilord said:
Supposedly the chip has that capability, but it may need an antenna which may or may not be installed, and it hasn't been advertised as a feature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That same chip also could provide us 802.11n. They managed to get that portion working after the fact on the Nexus One. I remain hopeful for this as well.
The HTC website says the T-Mobile HD2 has an FM radio. I looked at an HD2 at a T-Mobile store today and could nothing on it about the FM radio. Of course, I did not have the wired earplugs needed for the FM antenna.
Has anyone had any experience with the FM radio? Is it on the T-Mob HD2?
Yesssssssssssssss
brucegil said:
The HTC website says the T-Mobile HD2 has an FM radio. I looked at an HD2 at a T-Mobile store today and could nothing on it about the FM radio. Of course, I did not have the wired earplugs needed for the FM antenna.
Has anyone had any experience with the FM radio? Is it on the T-Mob HD2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, click on the multimedia icon..its in there. you need to use headphones as an antenna.
it should be a quick link...it is on mine.
an fm transmitter would be awesome
I was wondering, if anyone has spotted a build/kernel/... with FM radio working?
Especially with finally getting stutter-free sound, a working FM radio app is (for me at least) the only important feature missing from our Blackstone Android builds!
(for example, currently running XDANDROID 2.2.1 AOSP FRX04, no FM radio app to be found...)
I searched a lot, have tried ~10 different builds from XDA and Neopeek over the last month, but no result.
If anyone can point me to what I'm missing, I'd be grateful...
Cheers,
Robbert
---
XDANDROID 2.2.1 AOSP FRX04 on blackstone (690 MHz), viruscrazy test kernel for audiostuttering fix and camera (3Mpix) test.
There are very few Android phones with built-in FM reciver and AFAIK they all have FM Radio App that is device specific. I don't know if it's even possible to port something like that.
g3rm0 said:
There are very few Android phones with built-in FM reciver and AFAIK they all have FM Radio App that is device specific. I don't know if it's even possible to port something like that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was just hoping that it would be possible, since over at the Leo threads, all build/roms seem to have FM radio working, but maybe their app was ported from android device with similar FM chipset?
Our radio seems to be BRF6350 Chipset, other devices with the same chipset:
BRF6350 Chipset:
HTC Diamond, HTC Raphael (not CDMA), HTC Polaris, HTC Topaz, SE Xperia X1
(hero, touch pro, tattoo are also found when googling BRF6350)
Could be interesting to look into?
Robbert
kruijs said:
I was just hoping that it would be possible, since over at the Leo threads, all build/roms seem to have FM radio working, but maybe their app was ported from android device with similar FM chipset?
Our radio seems to be BRF6350 Chipset, other devices with the same chipset:
BRF6350 Chipset:
HTC Diamond, HTC Raphael (not CDMA), HTC Polaris, HTC Topaz, SE Xperia X1
(hero, touch pro, tattoo are also found when googling BRF6350)
Could be interesting to look into?
Robbert
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could we find the apk for the FM radio of any of the above devices? I could run some tests and see if we come into something
Eodun said:
Could we find the apk for the FM radio of any of the above devices? I could run some tests and see if we come into something
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, was also my first thought, but so far I could not find SD builds/Roms which included radio in any of the threads for those devices, basically Android development for the Leo appears to be in a class of it's own...
On a side note, it seems everyone just streams internet radio, and does not mind lacking FM radio...
Since I currently do not have a data package (always within reach of WIFI at home or at work), I kind of wanted radio for the short trip to work on my bike where WIFI coverage appears to be lacking
(also, in the end, FM traffic information would be nice to have in "offline" route navigation, as I have it now on WM)
I'll look further and report back if I find something of interest, maybe I'll politely bother the guys at the Leo thread
Cheers,
Robbert
I'm in the same situation XD Also I thought of TMC too, IGo8 in WM with it is great.
I'll see if I can find something
Evo 4g: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814234
Legend: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735711
Not the same chip though, but I'll have to start with something. BTW, it seems that it needs to be installed via ADB or els it doesn't work. I'll do some tests today.
Edit: 2 problems: Seems they are for Sense UI and need kernel FM support. Hm...
I'm not getting anywhere. Radio FM is supported via Bluetooth chipset.
I'm investigating the htc fm code...
FM radio needs kernel AND android framework support. So you will need: kernel driver, system support for this driver and FM App that uses both. Probably that's why nobody touched this yet. Too many changes since FM radio is not officially supported by google and every manufacturer does FM radio his own way. I'm not saying it's impossible - just not easy.
I've dl'd Cyanogen mod FM app source, let's see what I can do.