1.6 ??? - Hero, G2 Touch General

Hi all, i just wanted to know how a guy at work has the same phone as me on orange and has not updated any roms etc and has firmware 1.6 on his ??? as well as a new market place app ???
He said he got a over the air update ??? (what the hell is this)
ive looked at the htc web and orange but the only rom to download is the one i have , have tried generic but get the customer id error
any ideas on how to update my phone to orange 1.6 firmware would be great my phone details are as follows
thanks in advance, chris

Your sig says "Firmware: 1.6" yet you want to upgrade to 1.6? Am I missing something?

My mistake it should say 1.5 on my signature just edited it now

I don't know where his phone and firmware came from, but there is no *official* 1.6 (Donut) firmware for the Hero.
HTC are going to provide an update to the Hero, but it is going straight from 1.5 to 2.1, skipping 1.6 and 2.0.
Regards,
Dave

Ok thanks Dave are there any details on when that will be ??? And what is over the air update ???

crz15 said:
Ok thanks Dave are there any details on when that will be ??? And what is over the air update ???
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The clue is in the words.
1. Update
2. Over the air.
An 'update' that is delivered 'over the air'.
Phew

An OTA update is one that is automatically sent to your phone via your service provider. Depending on how you phone is set, this may be automatically installed and activated or you may get a prompt asking you if you want it.
Go to Home/Settings/Security/Firmware download to find this setting.

i have htc followed in twitter, and about a month ago (i think) htc tweeted that a certain company would be sending over the air updates.. so anyone who bought a hero from them would recieve the update as long as they had service..
it probably is 1.5, but they called it 1.6 because they no it wont interfere since htc will be skipping 1.6, and also it allowed customers to check and see if they got the update ( if they left it 1.5, customers would be like.. "did i get it!?"

crz15 said:
Hi all, i just wanted to know how a guy at work has the same phone as me on orange and has not updated any roms etc and has firmware 1.6 on his ??? as well as a new market place app ???
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can we have a picture, screenshots, a rom dump?

IF...
IF..
If it is really Android 1.6 that is on your friends Hero!!!
Can the Dev some how ....magically...
give it to the rest of the hero community??
ok.. I am awake now... what a dream!

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Great News:Finally- New speed-up Rom for UK today

Hi all,
For those who do NOT have the New official rom yet..
Just thought you would all like to know that I have just spoken to to HTC customer services after a customer feedback call and he informed me that the New Speed-up rom will be availiable on the UK website tomorrow 16th september......so now we will al have an almost perfect device...
UPDATE
The New Rom is on the HTC website now...
This Rom is for UK and Unlocked Hero's, go here-
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all
The majority of us on XDA already have the update!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
The majority of us on XDA already have the update!
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah thanks for the encouragment to post here...
But I thought I would let those of us who have not got it or downloaded it early that it would be availiable tomorrow...I hope you approve..
Dave,
I presume we can only install the leaked UK rom if our hero is rooted?
No, I have an Orange Hero which isn't rooted and you can update it using an update.zip file. Instructions are in another thread!
Is this a possibilty - my broadband at home is down due to BT being inept; could I download the update to my phone, transfer it to my laptop and then update? I'm a total noob so my apologies if there is an obvious answer
will it not be OTA ?
when I had my Dream android updates were Over The Air does this mean that when 1.6 Android comes out we will have to wait for HTC to sort it out before we can update unlike with normal android OTA updates ?
skauk said:
when I had my Dream android updates were Over The Air does this mean that when 1.6 Android comes out we will have to wait for HTC to sort it out before we can update unlike with normal android OTA updates ?
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From what I have read, google updates i.e. donut, eclair etc will be OTA. However the HTC updates will need to be updated by connecting your phone to your PC.
Hope this helps...
This is great news indeed, I have been polling HTC website like a madman for days now!
Shame the "Nordic" update still didn't have all the Nordic languages, I'm missing Finnish dictionary. Oh well, speed update is really great anyways, I haven't had the guts to install anything unofficial to my UK bought Hero.
Thanks for bringing the good news!
Hi chaps,
I have a T-Mobile G2 - for my phone's warranty to remain intact, do I need to wait for an official T-mobile version of the Rom, or can I update with the official HTC Hero Rom?
Available NOW!!!
Available NOW!!!
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=2&dl_id=671
ShiroEd said:
Available NOW!!!
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I'm not seeing it on the HTC website - can you provide a link, please?
Thank you!
any idea whn will tmobile release their own version??
yeah I have also T-Mobile G2 uk and I can't download from htc website. Can any one upload this rom and give us links unless t-mobile users can't use it. Cheers
Unless your Hero is unlocked, you can't download the rom.
THIS SUCKS!
Contact T-Mobile and complain to them then..! They DO have the ROM.. THEY are withholding its release!
Yeah, because complaining to T-Mobile always works.....
Seems to take aaaaaages to download!
well i just spoke to tmobile technical dept and asked thm abt the update and they were under the intention tht it is going to get pushed like it did for the G1, so I explained to them tht it wont as G2 Touch aint a google branded phone, and then the guy goes he has no idea and also checked his system if they had anything there, luks like we have to wait longer to get this update on our tmobile branded phones.

WM6.5 for TD2 India Version

Hello All,
Does anybody know when HTC is planning to release the WM6.5 update for phones sold in India??? The UK site is not allowing me to download the update if I give my phone's serial key...
--Ashwin
Following is the email i got when i contached HTC few days back regading the same.
Thank you for contacting HTC Email support.
As per your email, you want to know about the windows 6.5. We would like to inform you that Microsoft launched the Windows 6.5 on Tuesday, but currently for your device no up gradation available yet. As it is available you will find this information from our website www.htc.com/in.
In case of further queries, please feel free to contact HTC. We will be glad to assist you.
Thank you and have a nice day!
HTC
Hotline: 1800 11 33 77
Service Hours: 9.30 AM To 5.30 PM (Mon - Sat)  
HTC is NOT planing to upgrade TD2 in India - As per a CALL with HTC...
I was abvle to download from Europe site. (http://www.htc.com/europe/)
You can also try or get any WWW rom and install. That should work.
PS: The India site is maintain by HTC Twain group
Thanks.
South Africa is also not going to be getting an upgrade by the looks of things... i find that ridiculous. why not just let us install the UK versions...it's the same language after all...
sigh.
Why this stepmotherly treatment to some countries?
Btw, has anyone downloaded the UK version? Does it work?
prabhat said:
HTC is NOT planing to upgrade TD2 in India - As per a CALL with HTC...
I was abvle to download from Europe site. (http://www.htc.com/europe/)
You can also try or get any WWW rom and install. That should work.
PS: The India site is maintain by HTC Twain group
Thanks.
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How did u manage to get the serial no. accepted????
If u have a European device serial no. then plz share with us as it would be helpful in upgrading our TD2's..
lovemeeveryone2009 said:
How did u manage to get the serial no. accepted????
If u have a European device serial no. then plz share with us as it would be helpful in upgrading our TD2's..
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HT97TL102778 appears to be working.
Has anyone installed a UK / Europe ROM on an Asiapac device? Does it work?
Called up HTC customer care number 1800113377
asked them about "when we will get the update?". Lady on the phone clearly said "we ARE going toget the update". we just have to wait little bit more.
the update is ready with them and it is the HTC HQ's call when to release the update.
bottom line is "wait and watch http://www.htc.com/in/support.aspx"
Regards,
Geo
I wrote to them, and this is what I got:
Sir, We understand that you want to Windows upgrade for your HTC Device .
Regarding, But we like to inform you that Currently windows update for your HTC mobile is not available for India. As it is available you will find this information from our website www.htc.com/in.
You can also call our Call Center at: 1800 11 33 777 .
if you have further questions.
Thank you once again for your continued patronage.
hi again guys. South African ROM released end of last week. www.leaf.co.za
i've heard from a few of my Indian friends (living in S.A) that they were able to access and download the official ROM with their phones that came from India (after registering).
maybe that works for you guys?
Hi
Just tried registering at the SA HTC site - it works - was able to download the ROM...
--Ashwin
kkashwin said:
Just tried registering at the SA HTC site - it works - was able to download the ROM...
--Ashwin
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did u successfully updated ur device???
Update Failed
I guess my happiness was short lived - after a couple of steps the updater failed saying invalid vendor ID - nearly gave me an heart attack - the phone was showing some multicolored screen... - At least it did boot back to WM 6.1 later...
Please post if anyone else has success in updating the phone...
--Ashwin
6.5 upgrade
This is wht i got from HTC ,
Dear Mr. Mathew,
Thank you for contacting HTC Email support.
As per your email, you want to know about the windows 6.5. We would like to inform you that Microsoft launched the Windows 6.5 on Tuesday last week, but currently for your device no up gradation available yet. As it is available you will find this information from our website www.htc.com/in.
kkashwin said:
I guess my happiness was short lived - after a couple of steps the updater failed saying invalid vendor ID - nearly gave me an heart attack - the phone was showing some multicolored screen... - At least it did boot back to WM 6.1 later...
Please post if anyone else has success in updating the phone...
--Ashwin
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DAMN! i'm sorry to hear about your scare...i kinda feel responsible, having suggested the idea!
may I ask why you are avoiding installing a cooked or even OFFICIAL (as in UK version) ROM? are you worried about guarantee? or the risk of damaging your phone? Because if so, then i am gladly willing to walk any1 through the steps you need to take to get it running.
Guide me pls..
drag-on.. i'll b happy if u could guide me thro the steps , i was kinda scared to install a cooked rom on my HTC diamond2 till now coz while trying to do the same with my HTC touch i bricked my mobile a year back..
and i couldnt find a proper step by guide for doin this.. in every thread regarding the same somebody or the other is getting into problems..
so pls illustrate a proper step by step guide on the procedures of installin a ROM on a factory HTC touch diamond2..
I'll be glad to. what i would then rather do is send you a private message with the steps, so that we don't clutter the forums and have snide comments from senior members about how "easy" it all is. (they ARE right, but i know the first time is scary)
i'm going partying now, but i'll be glad to send you (and any1 else who asks for a private message) step by step instructions tomorrow.
what you can do in the mean time, is have a look at which ROM you think you might want (i'll add my suggestions anyways) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=486
thanks dude..
thanks for the help dude.. i'll go thro that documents now..
lookin forward to ur message..
kkashwin said:
Just tried registering at the SA HTC site - it works - was able to download the ROM...
--Ashwin
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Have you installed it Ashwin? Does it work? I tried the european WWE and it says my device is not supported
6.5 upgrade
I upgraded my d2 with Asian wwe release after doing HARDSPL and it is working perfact
--shailesh

Official Android 2.1 is Finally there!

From HTC's official plurk - www dot plurk dot com / htchero
It said the software will be published OTA from 4 June (of course, GMT+8)
For all we know that account could have been made by anyone??
I do hope it's true... but I am a real sceptic and pessimist and most of all a realist...
We'll see.
Thiesen said:
For all we know that account could have been made by anyone??
I do hope it's true... but I am a real sceptic and pessimist and most of all a realist...
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the plurk is the official one, see the plurk link at
www dot htc dot com / tw / product / hero / overview.html
hmmm.... it seems to be authentic
But are they just talking about an update for the ASIA version of the hero?
thonychau said:
the plurk is the official one, see the plurk link at
www dot htc dot com / tw / product / hero / overview.html
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Why not just link the HTML instead of doing that? Hey-zuess man....
here's the Google English Translation..
Holy crap this is a long URL
(HTC Hero 73.751.13) Update - HTC Hero Wireless Software Update (This update applies to 2.73.751.13 upgraded version of the HTC Hero) 2.73.751.13 HTC Hero 3G/GPRS We will start on June 4 to provide upgrades to 2.73.751.13 the HTC Hero wireless software updates, the system will continue to send renewal reminder, when you receive a system prompt you can just click Download Now or wireless network via 3G/GPRS connection mode, the completion of your phone system updates. (Android 2.1 3.31.751.1) (Updated from the Menu> Settings> About phone> Software Information "number will be updated as 3.31.751.1 software means that the update succeeded) main update function as follows: Android 2.1 operating system upgrade (software numbers will be upgraded to 3.31.751.1) Note : recommend that you choose to have free Wi-Fi environment to download updates (for example: home and office, etc.). If you are currently using 3G network, the download may have to pay the additional cost carriers, please make sure to have unlimited Internet access rates apply for rentals before use. 0800-088-858/(02) 8761-5959 。 If in doubt please contact the HTC Customer Service Hotline 0800-088-858 / mobile phone, please call (02) 8761-5959. Automatic online updates on.
Here is the direct link for the OTA file
h ttp://liveimage.htc.com//OTA_Hero_ChungHwa_3.31.751.1_R-2.73.751.13_release048gnt2ecw16ubyr.zip
intoxicated said:
Here is the direct link for the OTA file
http://liveimage.htc.com//OTA_Hero_ChungHwa_3.31.751.1_R-2.73.751.13_release048gnt2ecw16ubyr.zip
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Beauty. I just downloaded it and unzipped it. Looks like it will be easy to repack for rooted users. It comes with new radio firmware. Hope it's not branded in any way.
Its out.
http://www.htc.com/tw/support.aspx
"We will start on June 4 to provide upgrades to 2.73.751.13..."
Um.. sorry if this is a dumb question, but my Hero's version is 2.73.405.5 and that's the latest ROM Version according to htc.com/europe/
so.. is that version getting the update or is it just the 2.73.751.13 the Taiwanese version and 2.73.405.5 the European one and both are practically the same?
Hooraaay for 2.1 (party)
Update consists of series of binary patches, so probably it won't apply to anything but 2.73.751.13
Valcho said:
"We will start on June 4 to provide upgrades to ..."
Um.. sorry if this is a dumb question, but my Hero's version is 2.73.405.5 and that's the latest ROM Version according to htc.com/europe/
so.. is that version getting the update or is it just the 2.73.751.13 the Taiwanese version and 2.73.405.5 the European one and both are practically the same?
Hooraaay for 2.1 (party)
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It upgrades to (Android 2.1 3.31.751.1) from 2.73.751.13 OTA.
It's doubtful you'll be able to use the image as is from another ROM. But rooted users should be able to use a repacked version with no problem. It comes with a new radio, so care would have be taken to make sure there is no funkiness with current engineering SPLs.
now just need patient to wait for cooked rom
hi. im newbie and haven't root my hero. my hero is firmware singapore version.2.73.707.9 can i upgrade my
hero with this? or i should wait for south east asia version roll out? thanks.
sorry for.noob question...
sorry to say that you must have a taiwan version phone to update
First update to 2.73 will probably include some patches for the OTA client.
Not wanting to put a downer in this but haven't htc always told us we'll see a small ota update before the offical update to 2.1.
This sounds like it's taking them direct to 2.1
Well in Europe it looks like we have currently to wait, but there are another News about the OTA-UPdate on the European Site for Legend and Bravo :
http://www.htc.com/de/support.aspx
Hi , this is my first post im new here, Ive got 2 Heros coming from the UK, one is unlocked but the other is on T-mobile, both are running 1.5 android
Can someone point out to me the steps involved to Root both these devices and transfer a Custom htc hero 2.1 android Firmware to them......
Im used to flashing nokias and iphones but this android is totally new to me so i want to do it properly.
Thanks for any help or links to the things i need and topics on this
P.s Or do people recormmend just updating though HTC Site ? ( although i wud want 2.2 on these when ever that becomes avail ) hehe
Thanks peeps
Its about time this update came out. I don't see why the Droid Eris got the update months ago yet the GSM Hero has take so much longer. This is the reason I sold my Hero and got a Desire.
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[NEED HELP VERY BADLY] Regarding Android 2.1 Update

Hi all
Everybody seem to be getting the update except for me :-(
I m using a debranded Orange(UK 2.73.61.66) Hero in India. And I rooted it and was running V ROM 10.3.2 peacefully. But I went back to my stock ROM(did RUU update) to get the official update. which is not happening at this moment.
So, first question, Am I supposed to get the update now..?? (Because HTC.com/uk site tells that its being released)
Second, whats that date trick again..? which everybody seems to be talking
And Sorry for creating a new thread, Didn have patience to search through all other threads
harsha_aithal said:
Hi all
Everybody seem to be getting the update except for me :-(
I m using a debranded Orange(UK 2.73.61.66) Hero in India. And I rooted it and was running V ROM 10.3.2 peacefully. But I went back to my stock ROM(did RUU update) to get the official update. which is not happening at this moment.
So, first question, Am I supposed to get the update now..?? (Because HTC.com/uk site tells that its being released)
Second, whats that date trick again..? which everybody seems to be talking
And Sorry for creating a new thread, Didn have patience to search through all other threads
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forward month and the year. Restart and wait.
You should have 405 prior to getting 2.1. Rather, you have 61...
You don't even need to restart - as soon as the phone figures out that its internal date is over two weeks after it last checked, it will check for update again. Mine did within 30 seconds after changing the date.
Only reason why this might not work is if you advanced the date before - in that case, you need to advance it even further.
ticho said:
You don't even need to restart - as soon as the phone figures out that its internal date is over two weeks after it last checked, it will check for update again. Mine did within 30 seconds after changing the date.
Only reason why this might not work is if you advanced the date before - in that case, you need to advance it even further.
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Thanks for the reply guys. But was just wondering whether there is combination of brand and place to get the update. Like if u have Orange branded and u need to be in UK or something like that. (Coz I m in India, Strangely Indian versions have already received the updates)
FYI I have advanced the date to August..!! Still no luck :-(
If I read the numerous thread correctly, Orange UK users with carrier-crippled handsets don't see the OTA update at all yet. Someone correct me please if I'm wrong, though.
There is already a thread ** Official 2.1 UK UPDATE Thread ** .
Keep posts in the same area regards to this update then everyone can find it.
ticho said:
If I read the numerous thread correctly, Orange UK users with carrier-crippled handsets don't see the OTA update at all yet. Someone correct me please if I'm wrong, though.
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Yeah. Its true that they have not released the update for Orange Hero's. But I have seen threads where people did mention of receiving updates for Orange Hero.
So was just wondering

HTC Hero 2.1 Update (Orange)

Not sure if this it true but thought it was worth posting anyway, I have been speaking with Orange techs everyday for this last week on another matter and have been periodically asking about the update for the hero.
This morning the agent said they got an internal update about it yesterday and we can expect an update to be rolled out starting 3rd July.
There is already a thread ** Official 2.1 UK UPDATE Thread ** .
Keep posts in the same area regards to this update then everyone can find it.
Dude he is talking about a carriers update not the generic one from HTC.
So I think a separate thread is a good idea
Wezternator said:
Dude he is talking about a carriers update not the generic one from HTC.
So I think a separate thread is a good idea
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Make that two.. Orange Heros seem to be struggling to get the updates
I have the same problem. The first update has not yet appeared.
The info about my phone is
firmware version: 1.5
kernel version: 2.6.27-0078c992
Compilation number: 2.73.85.41 CL#72286 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.a6288
andrewb84uk said:
There is already a thread ** Official 2.1 UK UPDATE Thread ** .
Keep posts in the same area regards to this update then everyone can find it.
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While having everything in the one place would be nice.. I think there is still call for having separate threads on 2.1
harsha_aithal said:
Make that two.. Orange Heros seem to be struggling to get the updates
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me three. You'll just get loads of orange rom threads appearing. No point in having a specific (potential) answer to a problem hidden away in a thread about the generic rom.
Me 4. I've been trawling through loads of posts to find Orange updates.
I have gone back to stock ready for the official Orange 2.1. I've had a variety of ROMs for 6 months, just want an official 2.1, as I've never been happy with stability of any, or there's always one thing that doesn't work.
Gav.
Does anyone know if we will have to have the newest orange rom to get part 1 of the update, (ROM Version:2.73.61.66 released on 2010-02-04).
I never bothered with it at the time as it didnt seem to actually do anything different from the ROM they released in November along with all the other rom updates, (Rom 2.73.61.5).
andrewb84uk said:
Keep posts in the same area regards to this update then everyone can find it.
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I can see the reasons for keeping everything together and normally I would agree, but as this nugget of info was specific to the Orange build and I thought a separate thread so Orange customers can see it would be more useful, burying it on page 50+ of a thread about the generic (and rooted ) build didn't seem the right place for it.
paulczar said:
Does anyone know if we will have to have the newest orange rom to get part 1 of the update, (ROM Version:2.73.61.66 released on 2010-02-04).
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Im running the latest version now as I thought that it might be required to trigger the part 1 of the update the other week, but so far nothing so we'll just have to wait and see.
figures crossed for the 3rd...
paulczar said:
Does anyone know if we will have to have the newest orange rom to get part 1 of the update, (ROM Version:2.73.61.66 released on 2010-02-04).
I never bothered with it at the time as it didnt seem to actually do anything different from the ROM they released in November along with all the other rom updates, (Rom 2.73.61.5).
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me neither... guess we'll find out soon
gavtaylor said:
Im running the latest version now as I thought that it might be required to trigger the part 1 of the update the other week, but so far nothing so we'll just have to wait and see.
figures crossed for the 3rd...
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think i'll just wait and see what happens rather than install the .66 rom if i don't need to.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow then chaps
Yeah right!!!!!
It'll be out when Orange sign it off and finish filling it up with their crap.
As for whether you'd need the latest ROM? yes you would. FOTA updates are deltas and only work from the most recent ROM.
Good idea!
I am normally against fragmenting topics, but I agree, when it comes to Orange UK, the ROM updates are always a bone of contention!
I now own a HTC Desire but my partner has the HERO on Orange and I am waiting anxiously for this update to get cracking on making this phone useable again.
*** My question however is this: I have paid Orange to unlock the handset to any network. Will I still have to update with an Orange ROM or will I get the 2.1 update unbranded now?? ***
apprentice said:
*** My question however is this: I have paid Orange to unlock the handset to any network. Will I still have to update with an Orange ROM or will I get the 2.1 update unbranded now?? ***
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I dont think you will.
My contract is coming close to an end so will technically own the phone outright so I asked HTC if it were possible to flash their generic stock rom on the phone to remove the Orange branded version and they said its not possible and I will only be able to install roms provided by Orange on the handset.
I think its time to bite the bullet and get rooting...
After all this is the last chance to do it, if we install the official version we will be locked out forever and the Hero isnt going to be getting another official update after this one.
gavtaylor said:
I dont think you will.
My contract is coming close to an end so will technically own the phone outright so I asked HTC if it were possible to flash their generic stock rom on the phone to remove the Orange branded version and they said its not possible and I will only be able to install roms provided by Orange on the handset.
I think its time to bite the bullet and get rooting...
After all this is the last chance to do it, if we install the official version we will be locked out forever and the Hero isnt going to be getting another official update after this one.
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I can't understand why people are still hanging on. Rooting is well easy and the roms better than the official releases.
do you know?
i'm running my hero with modaco 2.8 rom
will i have to revert to the stock orange rom for the update?
sorry if this has already been asked i have been on nights all week and don't have the energy to read through all these threads
cheers people
Still Waiting...
I have a HTC Hero on Orange...
This whole thing is very frustrating to be honest!
I am a total noob when it comes to rooting, but I think i might just go ahead this weekend and put villain v12 custom ROM on my HTC Hero. Worth a shot¬!
Its taken them ni on a year to release this update, and when they finally release it, the people stuck on locked phones have to wait even longer!
Still, I really like HTC Devices and Google android is the shiz! So its all good!
cbailey said:
I can't understand why people are still hanging on. Rooting is well easy and the roms better than the official releases.
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If I were to root my Hero, would it be unlocked from the orange network? I've been researching all the methods before I jump in to rooting it, and I've come across people having to reflash to an orange rom because they weren't able to use their Hero after updating. I was looking at VillianROM 12, but I didn't want to do anything if I had to default back to Orange after my efforts. They have a wiki with step by step instructions, easy enough, I'm just kinda weary as I've never rooted before. All I want is the newest update and be able to use an O2 sim.

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