What is NAND?
All i know is its .. well what i think it is is flashing your phones storags and installing Android where WM was..
Could anyone explain to me how to do this, or give me a link to a tutorial?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603508 should have all you need covered.
bri3d said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603508 should have all you need covered.
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TYVM biiggg help 8D
nand is the internal memory on your phone. To put it in terms of your computer it's the internal hdd, where as the sd card is an external hdd..
Does that help?
mssmison said:
nand is the internal memory on your phone. To put it in terms of your computer it's the internal hdd, where as the sd card is an external hdd..
Does that help?
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i have a nother question, you have to unlock ur phone, does and once u install android is WM still on my phone, like can i still use it? because the hero rom doesnty send texts when i use it off my SD card and im afraid it wont send texts when i have it on NAND, then ill b stuck if i cant use WM. And finally does NAND make it ALOT fast cause the hero rom is terribly lagging on SD card
To flash Android on the NAND you have to unlock your phone first, if you have a custom ROM you have already unlocked your phone. If you install Android on the NAND, it will completely remove Windows Mobile, the only way to get WinMo back would be to flash a WinMo ROM.
As for a speed difference, there would not be a huge difference if you have a fast SD card (class 6). If you have a slower card you will see a marked difference in speed.
If you are worried about speed you should try a different build, if you like Hero, jamezelle's sensehero build is probably the fastest, but it isn't nearly as fast or stable as plemen's themed donut builds.
I'd suggest you use the tattoo build posted by vilord. It sends texts just fine. I used it for a while and really liked it.
mssmison said:
I'd suggest you use the tattoo build posted by vilord. It sends texts just fine. I used it for a while and really liked it.
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True, but, vilord's build is too large to flash in it's current state so you will have to run it through Haret.
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I'd suggest you use the tattoo build posted by vilord. It sends texts just fine. I used it for a while and really liked it.
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link please =]? and with every build i use it wont send txt messages, i got one of them to actually now that i think about it, it was the Eclair one, but all others wont
The only builds that have sms issues are the hero based builds. And if fact it does send the text it just reports that it doesn't.
Seeing as you're just starting out in nand, start with DZO's android install package here.
It's a great build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
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The only builds that have sms issues are the hero based builds. And if fact it does send the text it just reports that it doesn't.
Seeing as you're just starting out in nand, start with DZO's android install package here.
It's a great build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
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im not gonna do NAND, im currently using SD android, but im not gonna do NAND cause i dont want to lose WM because currently android isnt working right
10 charaters
ali3nfr3ak said:
10 charaters
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yea, cause that tells me alot
zbubblez said:
im not gonna do NAND, im currently using SD android, but im not gonna do NAND cause i dont want to lose WM because currently android isnt working right
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what is it that is not working right in android for you?
GPS works, bluetooth works(on the right builds), sms, calls, etc..
I have settled for WM6.5.x and Vilord's Tattoo on a class 6 4gb micro sdhc. That way I can flash the newest WM and still play with android. I have used a 2gb with Android and it is definitely slower. Even a Kingston class 4 was noticably slower.
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yea, cause that tells me alot
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yeah sorry about that said something was wrong lol
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So has one figureout how to run andorid 2.2 with no sod??? Thats the only problem i have is the damn sod!!!!
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xXy3kXx said:
So has one figureout how to run andorid 2.2 with no sod??? Thats the only problem i have is the damn sod!!!!
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UUgghhh..... was this necessary to add a thread like this in the development thread? Builds run different for everyone so you have to try them out yourself. I havent had an SOD in atleast a month so you might be doing something wrong.
My advice is use the search at the top!
Pointless............
Try a new radio, worked for me
Try changing your radio and rom and then use newer android builds...
motoman234 said:
UUgghhh..... was this necessary to add a thread like this in the development thread? Builds run different for everyone so you have to try them out yourself. I havent had an SOD in atleast a month so you might be doing something wrong.
My advice is use the search at the top!
Pointless............
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I just want to know what worked for other people.
xXy3kXx said:
I just want to know what worked for other people.
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What build, kernel, etc. are you currently using?
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I just want to know what worked for other people.
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Well your on T-Mobile to so you can try the setup in my sig. Best setup I've found.
I also get many freezes on TMobile HD2 only if i m using Sandisk 16GB memory card,
Whenever i tried booting android from 2GB Kingston, it boots faster and runs without any SOD
jst it restricts the content capacity :/
I haven't had a SOD in over a month.
Using 2.14 radio and VBN WM rom.
I've used about ten different roms during that time and I've been using various EVO kernels during that time.
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So has one figureout how to run andorid 2.2 with no sod??? Thats the only problem i have is the damn sod!!!!
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1 - Take your phone.
2 - Put it at 2 centimeters from a really bright light bulb
3 - your screen light will go up
4 - still with the phone near the light bulb, deactivate the automatic birghtness and never use it anymore
5 - enjoy your android without any SOD
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So has one figureout how to run andorid 2.2 with no sod??? Thats the only problem i have is the damn sod!!!!
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My signature says all! My first and last SOD war a month ago - i formated my SanDisk 16 GB Class 2 card with SDformatter tool and no SOD anymore!
Now i have combination with everything working!
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So has one figureout how to run andorid 2.2 with no sod??? Thats the only problem i have is the damn sod!!!!
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you hit your head or something? SOD has been gone for months
No doubt...
What is the SOD again? Oh yeah! That thing.
Wasn't that fixed like in 1979???
fixes it just had to use a non live walpaper. no im having bad batt time what should i do? whats the best android 2.2 rom out???
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I just want to know what worked for other people.
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you could have asked this in the Q&A section. or general.... but why the ***k did you have to post a new ****king thread in development.
xda is really starting to suck. its been invaded by too many idiots that dont read and search for themselves.
xXy3kXx said:
fixes it just had to use a non live walpaper. no im having bad batt time what should i do? whats the best android 2.2 rom out???
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and for the love of all that is holy, just go look for some freakin bulds yourself. try them and see what works best, you can run like 15 builds on one sd card. so just start looking............
Denkov said:
My signature says all! My first and last SOD war a month ago - i formated my SanDisk 16 GB Class 2 card with SDformatter tool and no SOD anymore!
Now i have combination with everything working!
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YES, I think sigs are important if they want help in the forums. I think sigs should be mandatory... or atleast include the setup with the question.
Signature is not signature anymore, people use it to show off, advertise....
*Update Radio
*Do a Task29
*Read What the Builder say about the build and what Rom he recommends
*while Reading BACKUP your SD Card and Reformat it
*Download the build & Transfer it to your sd card (whatever method you use on how to transfer your file from sd reader or direct connection to phone ALWAYS RESTART YOUR PHONE before running android.
*After first boot Restart your phone again*** (i always do this when i see the lock screen, i dont do the "setup phone" first
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Signature is not signature anymore, people use it to show off, advertise....
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Hahaha advertise? Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Its for help and to help others.
I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this
Hopefully die a quick death. By the way, why can't you install mgldr? Also, this is the wrong forum.
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i suspect NAND will work for most 95% of the phones out there
the question is , SD card is old technology but does bring its benefits
backing up, upgrading builds and modifying components were a little easier made from Windows Mobile. Multiple Android boots from different Android Folders as well using Exceller's
well, to me, SD card should perhaps move to the direction of RAM.
and finally NAND only and RAM only builds should conquer.. speed, stability and functionality
Primary Generation : NAND (with some setbacks now)
Secondary Generation : RAM ( with some setbacks now)
Tertiary Generation : SD (with setbacks as well)
they all have their UP and DOWNS, I believe its CHOICE
and if you dont like Android, go with Windows Mobile ! The power to customize is up 2 you
darkstone is working on NAND+RAM, so lets see how that unfolds...
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I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this
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even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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Probably because there are no or very little problems with the NAND builds so nobody has questions about them.
This is an interesting thread. I am using sd builds too. I'd like to have dual boot too because i need winmo from time to time to use mytinytv. Most recent android builds are now moving to nand. Unless magldr has dual boot options, i'd like to stick with sd builds.
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Do we have the option to run a SD build from mgldr ? Ive had a little go but no boot yet...
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I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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The nand build have their own sub forum. XDA app cannot see that yet. Try to browse in a computer and you'll see.
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norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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All the nand roms have been moved to its own subforum.
Edit: knew I should've just waited to let somebody else answer
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even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I had this problem. After I did the following , flashing nand worked.
1. Flash with task 29
2. Flash stock win mo rom
3. Flash magldr
4. Flash nand rom of choice.
This process has to be done in that order.
I tried different combinations until I found this one to work repeatedly.
Hopefully you figure it out...
Also did you un check allow usb connections in active sync?
Good luck.
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I believe nand is better ,faster and more stable way to have android in our phones but i think that is better to have more than one choises.
personally i do think i NEVER move the build into NAND - as I am still vigorously using the GPS software in the original WM which is too useful to me ... lol
furthermore, backing up all stuff in SD is too easy to me - so I didn't / never think of placing any backup stuff in my android builds... lol
SD RAM will defeat NAND...i guess
I believe that most of the limitation you will incur with NAND have limited chances of been resolved (user space).
I've tested 6 NAND builds, they work fine and they have a lower battery drain compared to SD and SD/RAM release.
Nevertheless most of us want to install apps and unfortunately not all can be moved to SD....so IMHO at the end the most flexible long term solution is SD plus RAM loading (to have the benefits of huge user space and good performance...with a little higher battery consumption)
Well, as much as I love flashing the living crap out of my phones. . . . I quit. . . After I got a perfected WMO and Robot combo running.
My phone runs about 97% perfect. . . Which is just the same if not better then a native Android device.
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+1, 100% same case with me.
(and we are not alone... )
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Black Antitoon said:
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+10. totaly with you and with SD RAM . So why we have bought HD2 ???
DARKSTONE please continu with SD RAM .
I would be very happy to have some sd/ram build updates in the future. Obviously as we are having the nand boom at the moment, noone should expect sd/ram builds in the next couple of days, I guess.
I love having my energy rom under the android one, especially for my Igo8 navigation. And I still have one of those stupid issues with all the builds when the phone stucks on 60Ma on standby for hours, dont know why. Sd gives the freedom of costumization, great for research, I can save any build in a directory and put it aside.
Thanks for all your hard work and keep up the good work.
Nand has been the holy grail of developement - and so the big, big interest...But in going down the nand route you are losing half the functionality of the phone. So until and unless there is a dual boot option I think I'm going to stick with SD
I'm currently using CMYLXGO stock desire rom and i love it but the last few days ive been getting a low memory icon. I look and my phone says 90%. Wierd cause ive deleted many apps and have app2sd as well. I dont know if its me or the rom but I was wondering if anyone can recommend a rom that offers lots of space for apps. For some reason while the icon is up I dont even get emails. If anyone is using app2sd i have a question. When i click on the "phone only" tab it says 21 apps but on the moveable tab it says "no moveable applications found". And on my sd tab it says only 9 apps. How do I move those phone apps to my sd? Maybe that'll clear space.
If your using SD android, (i dont know about nand or ram) Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
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evo1rs said:
Search for toporesize in xda, find [app]windows resize data img maker thread and download the app, then just follow the instructions but backup your img first and don't resize to bigger than 2048mb(2gb).
Then you have larger internal memory with the same rom!
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What do you mean. Backup your image? Like picture?
Is it an SD build your using?
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Is it an SD build your using?
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I beleive so. Its a zip on my sd card, if thats what you mean
Ok sorry. I just searched for it and it is nand. Different filesystem setups.
I only use SD card builds so I can still use winmo if I like.
Looking at the thread for your build you need partitions or something.
In which case I'd recommend the rom in my signature.
Sorry for the mix up.
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Take a look at my sign
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Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...
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Oh my, I'm loving the look of coredroid but need to research to mke sure it works for tmous and most importantly how to install. Not very savy when it comes to this. Off to read I go...
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There's a special version for TMOUS and everything is explained so you cannot make a mistake
Enjoy the power dude!!!!!!!!!!!!
so it seems the instructions are cut and dry. One question it doesnt answer. Should I take all my current rom zips out of my sd?
Unless you absolutely positively need sense, I would recommend and AOSP build like this lightning fast gingerbread build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
sense builds will always tend towards the bloated side. The system partition on the gingerbread build i linked only takes up about 125 mb. vs the 400mb partition that cmylxgo's dhd build takes up
so i went with coredroid and so far so good. I wanna thank you guys for all the suggestions you've provided
Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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No.
CTSRP said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
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Dont forget the thanks button
Anyways, basically the sd card is used to put the rom in and all music, pics, apps etc. will be stored on the sd card. plus, the 128 mb card will not hold the rom. Some files of the rom are installed on the sd card as well(some) so yeah, like the above user said, invest in a class 4 sd card with a fairly high amount of memory.
try the link below, it could give you an idea
You will need an SD card anyhow as mentioned before. Not only for flashing it to Nand, also some ROMs needs an ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card. Specially when it's an EU device as yours might seems.
F.e.: I got an EU model and the great Energy ROM running - this needs a 1Gb ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card!
-> It depends on the ROM of your choice.
Right now, I guess there is now ICS ROM with sense out there - or an I wrong?
I can definetly recommend the NRG ROM as this one runs really great. There is also a very good lashing instruction in its thread.
Good luck :good:
Ooh, ooh, me too!!
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
Thanks
Nigeldg said:
Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
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Thanks (and "thanks" added). I did search [and read the "sticky") but there were lots and I got confused as to which one. I'll give the one you recommend a go (which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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(which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, but I would have been thoroughly confused with a thorough search, fortunatly I was only briefly confused .
Guys, I got huge problem!
I don't know if this happened to someone but it's very bad.
I am in big trouble with installing games right now, they kill my android, I mean kill really, after installing few best games, which I really want to play, my android drain the battery in 12 hours and even when he have enough battery he crash and after that he do not turn on anymore!
To start use the phone I have to install a backup to original to run it again.
Someone know something about that?
How it is possible and HOW AVOID THIS AND INSTALL ANY GAME?
Help.:crying:
Is your phone a tmo or eu? Are you using an a2sd script? is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
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Is your phone a tmo or eu? Are you using an a2sd script? is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
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hey, my phone is TMO, I am new to android and I am astonished what Android can run without changing hardware but you ask me to much, I don't know what it's a2sd script and is first time I think about it! How can I know which I have?
After installation I start installing games and I got problems so I can't confirm right now if I have the same issue with apps too, that will be a massive problem!
What can I do to let you help me?
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is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
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ok, I can confirm that, it's in general! :crying:
I just try to install Absolute System Root Tool and he crashed, immediately and completely.
This never happened with games, I was able to play with few games but when I leaved the phone in standby he crashed by him self.
Where is the problem?
You have a tmo, so forget about the a2sd script.
Which bootloader do you have (clk or magldr) ? and what rom are you using ? and what is your recovery partition.
P.S.: Was it you who installed Android on it or you bought it already installed/let someone do it for you?
Marvlesz said:
You have a tmo, so forget about the a2sd script.
Which bootloader do you have (clk or magldr) ? and what rom are you using ? and what is your recovery partition.
P.S.: Was it you who installed Android on it or you bought it already installed/let someone do it for you?
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Ok, I do not have CLK ot MAGLDR, I downloaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3Revolution, kernel Hastarin 7.7, Android 2.2 but they call 2.3 for from last update. I do not use recovery partition because there are not partitions, all is on sd fat32 partition, basicly old stuff, but I like the rom. I put all the package folder (Android) into my sd, the type Android is based on rootfs.img, and I run it from Windows Mobile 6.5 with Android Launcher. First time he boot in 10 minuts because he had to made the fresh data.img of 1024MB. After he boot I reboot 3 times and he working very well, the problem comming when I try to install app or games, fully sure.
All the work I did by my self, few tip here and there, thanks XDA ofcurse.
eclyptos said:
.... here and there, thanks XDA ofcurse.
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That's not what it sound like, thankx XDA ofcurse for the good job! Not because I have problem I have to blame someone, happens but I will be glad to solve this problem soon as is possible.
Any idea?
Hmmm .. to be honest with you, the last time I used an sd-build was about 2 years ago. I do not know what may cause such an issue. It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file. Or it could be a problem with that particular build.
Can you try the same build on a different sd card?
I remember having some problems, and a format of my sd-card usually solved them. (due to leftovers from previous roms) << you can try this one as well.
I am sorry, I am not experienced in sd-roms.
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Hmmm .. to be honest with you, the last time I used an sd-build was about 2 years ago. I do not know what may cause such an issue. It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file.......
Can you try the same build on a different sd card?
I remember having some problems, and a format of my sd-card usually solved them
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I was thinking exactly about do that, I got now the last Sandisk Micro SDHC 32GB Class 10 and I am unhappy because she don't work well from the first time. The first day I put the OS Android into this card he never turned on. I formatted the card with CMD and the card start working a little bit faster than before but not really well, also Android start working. Today I already paid for Samsung 32GB Class 10.
But what if I change the card and I will have same problems?
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Or it could be a problem with that particular build.
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Probably, but if will be a such huge issue with this build, or builds, someone should know, right?
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. (due to leftovers from previous roms) << you can try this one as well.
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hmmm.....I do not understand what you mean?
Do you mean a different build? I will be happy to test the Android recommended from you!
Do you have a download link?
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I am sorry, I am not experienced in sd-roms.
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yeha, Come on! Your are a Senior here!!
I have to have Android on SD but I am really unexperted. What do you suggest to do?
Do you know some good Android OS for SD card well made Stable and Fast for daily use?
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hmmm.....I do not understand what you mean?
Do you mean a different build? I will be happy to test the Android recommended from you!
Do you have a download link?
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yeha, Come on! Your are a Senior here!!
I have to have Android on SD but I am really unexperted. What do you suggest to do?
Do you know some good Android OS for SD card well made Stable and Fast for daily use?
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I mean, format the sd card to remove any leftovers from previous roms.
Oh stop it, you :3
But come on, everyone with 100 posts is a senior. I may be a senior in particular subjects to a limit, but when it comes to sd card, I'm sorry .
I am also wondering why you didn't have so many replies.
Anyway, report back and I will try my best.
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It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file.
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I try to think about that and I get confused a little bit, if I am unable to "write data" to the "data.img", in this situation if I install ANY app or Games, which issue I will have? An immediate crash, Right?
or the program will be installed wrong and will never work. So why the Games working and also Android still working after installing few games and he crash leater? data.img compromised?
I will be glad if someone will have an answare for that.
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I am also wondering why you didn't have so many replies.
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That is a good question, for 1000 dollars! Some how maybe I am not nice?
probably is my attitude, or my picture in avatar?
What do you think? am I so bad?
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ohh, right! now I know, It's because I do not use my brain! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.................. I am vary bad!
Since you are running sd builds(you didn't tell me anything about that) it's you card problem. Try deleting everything from .android secure(you're now losing apps from previous rom) because I think that the new rom is trying to overwrite the old one. I was using sd build but this problem is totally unfamiliar with me.
Anyway, install android on your HD2 on NAND, strongly recommended, or native sd since you mentioned that you have class 10 sd card.
I can give you a great tutorial that I've found on youtube if you want, or search the xda, there are a few good ones.
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Since you are running sd builds(you didn't tell me anything about that) it's you card problem. Try deleting everything from .android secure(you're now losing apps from previous rom) because I think that the new rom is trying to overwrite the old one. I was using sd build but this problem is totally unfamiliar with me.
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Sorry, I don't know how to define all the Android build so I get confused. Now I should know, SD Builds are the OS like mine on sd fat32, Native SD are the OS on partition ext4 and they can be installed with MALGRD, ok, and NAND are flashed on ROM. Too many thing for me to learn and also my english is not so good.
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Anyway, install android on your HD2 on NAND, strongly recommended, or native sd since you mentioned that you have class 10 sd card.
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I can't on NAND, I have to have Windows Mobile 6.5 because I have full Unlocked TomTom and few app which working fine, Windows Mobile also working well, (just forget bluetooth) and if the SD Build will continue to give me problem with the NEW Samsung microSD class 10 I will probably install Native SD for sure, I hope it will be stable and fast without problems.
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I can give you a great tutorial that I've found on youtube if you want, or search the xda, there are a few good ones.
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Thanks, when the sd come I will let you know, I will be glad if you can help me in some way or send me the tutorial to install Android. Cheers.
you can try a different build, your version is old anyway .
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you can try a different build, your version is old anyway .
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old phone, old version, no big deal but that not mean the build have do not work, right?
BTW I like this build but some how I got this problem from no where.
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old phone, old version, no big deal but that not mean the build have do not work, right?
BTW I like this build but some how I got this problem from no where.
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Well, I have provided all the information that may be related to fixing your problem.
Now, I think you have to either change your rom, wait for other answers or just live with it.
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Well, I have provided all the information that may be related to fixing your problem.
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Thanks, i already click on Thanks for you.
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Now, I think you have to either change your rom, wait for other answers
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Probably.
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or just live with it.
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No way, I hope you understand , I try to make it work but I alrady paid today for another one HTC HD2 , so 1 I use daily with Windows Mobile 6.5 and the "new" one when comes I try to make it work with Android.
AND, when I finally will understud how to have 2 OS on 1 HD2 perhaps I am happy. :fingers-crossed:
Ok, Guys, problem solved, was the microSD!
Yes, the crap Sandisk Class 10 (28mb/s in Read, 15mb/s in Writing) this time let me down, I changed the sd and the Android do not crash anymore and I can install apps and games also.
The battery life,is not so long but this actually can be resolved too, I will try new Androids anyway to find the best set-ups for me.
Thanks for all the support and and tips.