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Opera Hardware Keyboard Fix

As I seen through lots of research most people are having problems with the hardware keyboard functioning in Opera. Can someone with development experience create a fix for this? I can elaborate on the issue as I've researched it but I think most people are familiar with this issue.

This would be amazing if it could be done. It's the issue that's keeping me from using 9.5.

I go through the same thing. But instead of the touch keyboard, i use the regular keyboard.

wich is the last version of opera 9.5 wicht is comnpatible to the htc wizard hardware keyboard?

The stock installation on my Xperia might work, its optimized for hardware keyboards and works w...err, lets say better than the other builds floating around It's for VGA devices, you'd have to find a skin for QVGA, there's some floating around the forums here or you just back up your old one (\Windows\Opera9\skin\standard_skin.zip) and copy it back after the installation.
Edit: Uploaded here [Link]. Its Build 2141 direcly pulled from an XPERIA X1. This version puts its files (settings, config files, cache, skin, ...) in \Application Data\Opera9 instead of \Windows\Opera9 as HTC builds do.
Please report back if it worked for you so that other know, if they can try.

thx......ill give it a try. but i want an sd card installation ;-)
Bull

hmmm....i´ve tryed it.....i get an error on setup.
something like: "not the right rom version"
Bull

schaggo said:
The stock installation on my Xperia might work, its optimized for hardware keyboards and works w...err, lets say better than the other builds floating around It's for VGA devices, you'd have to find a skin for QVGA, there's some floating around the forums here or you just back up your old one (\Windows\Opera9\skin\standard_skin.zip) and copy it back after the installation.
Edit: Uploaded here [Link]. Its Build 2141 direcly pulled from an XPERIA X1. This version puts its files (settings, config files, cache, skin, ...) in \Application Data\Opera9 instead of \Windows\Opera9 as HTC builds do.
Please report back if it worked for you so that other know, if they can try.
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Can you please just pull out the Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe ( I think thats what they are ), so that we may just do an update to keep our qvga skins, and bypass the install problem? That might just do the trick..
Thanks much!
Rytt

good idea....this schuld be working

So i guess its agreed that there is no fix out there. Time to roll up our sleeves and come up with something. This problem is annoying a lot of people and keeping many from using the software at all.

1184!!
Iceman692 said:
So i guess its agreed that there is no fix out there. Time to roll up our sleeves and come up with something. This problem is annoying a lot of people and keeping many from using the software at all.
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Use Opera Mobile 1184! It works perfectly with the keyboard, able to uninstall (since it's on the SD card) and if the files are posted here that I've requested and if it works, viola! Fast Opera + Perfect Keyboard.
I still wonder why I have heard no news of Touch Pro's Opera working with Tilt's keyboard. Any thoughts?
Rytt

Rytt55 said:
Use Opera Mobile 1184! It works perfectly with the keyboard, able to uninstall (since it's on the SD card) and if the files are posted here that I've requested and if it works, viola! Fast Opera + Perfect Keyboard.
I still wonder why I have heard no news of Touch Pro's Opera working with Tilt's keyboard. Any thoughts?
Rytt
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Everyone else that I spoke to said that build was slower. Can anyone confirm one way or the other?

Have you guys with the keyboard problem tried the 1957 build? I have it on my Mogul and don't have any problem with either the on screen or the device keyboard.
Here is the link for 1957 with SD installation that is uninstallable...(This version also puts its files; settings, config files, cache, skin, ... in \Application Data\Opera9 instead of \Windows\Opera9 as HTC builds do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425268
It is also faster than the 23xx versions except for the latest build 2745

Testing build 2520 from Omnia
WildSioux said:
Have you guys with the keyboard problem tried the 1957 build? I have it on my Mogul and don't have any problem with either the on screen or the device keyboard.
Here is the link for 1957 with SD installation that is uninstallable...(This version also puts its files; settings, config files, cache, skin, ... in \Application Data\Opera9 instead of \Windows\Opera9 as HTC builds do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425268
It is also faster than the 23xx versions except for the latest build 2745
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Build 1957 works fine on my x7510 (no keyboard problem neither autorotation problem). Now I'm trying Opera build 2520 extracted from the latest oficial Omnia ROM. There is no problem with the keyboard and seems faster than build 1957.

xtep said:
Build 1957 works fine on my x7510 (no keyboard problem neither autorotation problem). Now I'm trying Opera build 2520 extracted from the latest oficial Omnia ROM. There is no problem with the keyboard and seems faster than build 1957.
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Where do you get 2520? Do you have a cab or the upgrade? Also, are the files installed in \Windows\ or \Application folder?

sorry guys for not keeping up with the thread, I was quite busy lately. Unfortunately I'm on the go right now and cant upload the requested 2141 files. Ill do that once I get home, hang on a little longer...
Question which I have, is which build the Touch Pro features and if Flash will run in that version respectively in the 19xx builds mentioned abovee... While flash is not a must I'd like to have it none the less.

WildSioux said:
Where do you get 2520? Do you have a cab or the upgrade? Also, are the files installed in \Windows\ or \Application folder?
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I extracted it directly from the Omnia ROM. So there is no cab (although I can try to create a cab with this build).
The files are instaled on \Application Data\Opera9, just like build 1957 (also from a omnia ROM). In fact, the files on the new build are almost equal to the ones on build 1957.

xtep said:
I extracted it directly from the Omnia ROM. So there is no cab (although I can try to create a cab with this build).
The files are instaled on \Application Data\Opera9, just like build 1957 (also from a omnia ROM). In fact, the files on the new build are almost equal to the ones on build 1957.
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That would be awesome if you could make a cab of 2520 for SD install. Also, does it have the zoom like 1957 where you slide your finger on the right side of the screen? Or is it like the 23xx versions where you tap on the up arrow, then the zoom icon, then zoom slider? I really like the 1957 zoom, it is much easier and intuitive to use.
Thanks!

WildSioux said:
That would be awesome if you could make a cab of 2520 for SD install. Also, does it have the zoom like 1957 where you slide your finger on the right side of the screen? Or is it like the 23xx versions where you tap on the up arrow, then the zoom icon, then zoom slider? I really like the 1957 zoom, it is much easier and intuitive to use.
Thanks!
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Zoom is like in build 1957. For those that want a quick upgrade from version 1957 extract this files to \windows folder.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COT26I3L
Before creating a cab I want to test opera widgets.

there a file config for the Keyboards quick link

Opera Mobile 9.5 build 15233 QVGA from Omnia

New opera build extracted from latest (30/12/2008) Omnia ROM:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH67LC7D
It has the same features (zoom style, scroll window, etc) than previus builds from Omnia ROMs
Enjoy

very nice, i have always considered omnia opera builds some of the best.
any chance you have a link for the rom?

In the line of the 1957 ? Great i'm gonna test it

Played a bit with this version, Flashlite 3 worked after reinstall on memory (i had Opera on SD and this one is on memory)
I can't tell if it is much faster than the build 1957, but it scrolls fast, the zoom is smooth and there is no landscape issues with my kaiser when using the hardware keyboard. I also noticed that it lags less than previous build when scrolling/zooming with flash stuff on the page.
I love it

Darn, didn't fix two of my issues - Stars don't show up on the Google Reader Iphone version (google.com/reader/i) and my phone is still identified as a mobile device for ESPN.com. The mobile version loads automatically and I cannot get the regular version to load, even though in my settings I have it set to identify itself as a desktop computer.
Anyone else run into these issues?

Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!

Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!

itwasntme187 said:
Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!
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I found the culprit...
the application OperapreL.exe was loading up everytime so i just moved it to a different location so the phone cant load it... and now it works fine

barty22 said:
Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!
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mirror
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/178322331/Opera_v9.5_build_15233_QVGA.cab

I tried installing this to my sister's touch and it was saying installation was unsuccessful. the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions

This Opera version is awesome...
FAST, cool interface... Flash 3 work now...
Zoom bar in right side... no keyboard problem...
wow ! i think one of better Opera build tested for me...
THX for this gift ! happy new year !

Any way to get a SD version please?
I am using the 2520 version from the omnia that is the two file upgrade from the 1957 version. The omnia versions have always been the best.
Thanks

Can one of you guys please try https://secure.k12planet.com in this build. Im still on build 2128 because every build after this one results in the site saying that the browser is incompatible. I need this site to work for school. Thanks.
Edit: If it works, the page will show a login screen. Wait until the page stops loading because on the Opera builds where it doesn't work, it briefly shows the login screen before quickly changing to the browser incompatibility page.

^^^vidman...that site loaded for me on 2520

Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.

if only we could get this build in VGA it would be perfect

ngagephone said:
Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.
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Zoom Slider please how to enable it.

ngagephone said:
Zoom Slider please how to enable it.
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Guys, calm down...
It isn't a zoom slider like in the other opera versions. There isn't a "zoom" button. This one...tap on the right side of the screen, and slide finger. If you wait too long you get the menu. You will see a vertical zoom bar popup. Much better IMHO since it doesn't have the zoom button covering up the screen.

hello! anyone have problem that when backlight goes off it starts to blink? like one second backlight on and other off? anyidea how fix that?

VGA skin is attached. I did it real quick, there might be a few glitches, I used the basic diamond skin, but this one has all features of the omnia version. so give it a shot. it is better then nothing at least. and it works great on the touch pro.

Which Opera 9.5 build are using on your X1?

Hi guys,
i've been installing different builds on my X1 to see if any of them offer better rendering, zoom etc. but all of them have issues with the hardware keyboard.
Apart from the pre-installed build of Opera has anyone managed to find a newer build that works with our X1?
Many thanks!

Nope, still use the stock opera.

Me too. Anything other than the stock one gives nothing but trouble.

Same here. Stock opera ftw...

Ver 9.5 Build 2141... which is stock.
No reason to change as it suits my needs. I don't use the hardware keyboard on this anyway.

Stock one here too, I tried loads of builds but this one seems to work the best or the X1, plus it allows access to BBC iPlayer with the stock one.

the latest one from the omnia repacxked for vga 15233
typed using the hardware keyboard

fards said:
the latest one from the omnia repacxked for vga 15233
typed using the hardware keyboard
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The vga one works on the X1's wvga screen?

yep its only a skin

I have tried 15233 on my X1 and i didn't work quite so well as the stock one. The hardware keyboard was not functioning properly and because it is VGA version the zooming doesn't always focus correctly on the X1's screen

Hi all,
most people want to change opera version because they think there is no zoom option like the HD one when you can choose the degree of zoom.
But you can zoom in and out using the volume up and down button

lol thx. i didnt knew that

Tylwith said:
Hi all,
most people want to change opera version because they think there is no zoom option like the HD one when you can choose the degree of zoom.
But you can zoom in and out using the volume up and down button
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Really??
Great! Must check it.
P.S. The beta version which we have on X1 is amazing...

Opera
Hi
I'm using opera 9.5 15202 vga version on my Xperia X1i and it works beautifully
with zoom and all, I'm using 5 tabs option even. works fine for me.
Dinesh

I tried to update to 15xxx with overwriting opera.exe and operal.exe in \windows folder.
After that Opera is not starting anymore, so I went back to stock .exe files.
Did somebody make a .cab from the stock X1 opera so I can test the installs without having to do a hardreset when I want to go back to original one?
I heared that Build 15xxx have othe .ini than 2xxx, maybe that's the reason for updating-problems?!

no, the beta 2 version crashes alll the time
the stock is just fine for me!

Does the stock version support flashlite 3.1? It doesn't work for me. If anyone has it working, what opera build do you use and what flashlite cab did you install?
Was using the stock. Using 15233 right now, but I was going to go back. Its not really better and I think panning works better in the stock. Will try 15202 though.

My flash works.
Build is 2141 I think.

doministry said:
My flash works.
Build is 2141 I think.
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Can you tell me what cab you installed for flash? My flash acts like it wants to work but never fully loads. There will just be an empty box where a flash object should be. I can even tap and hold on it and get the flash context menu.

I am using the stock version of Opera but I am having problems getting it to load some of the forums I visit. I get the message "The requested page cannot be displayed". When I use wifi I get the XML Parsing Error. Is there a fix for this somehwere? I never had this issue using Opera 9.5 before the X1a.

iGO8 with Iolite / XDA Guide / Touch cruise 09

Hi all,
I have been using TOMTOM 7 so far which works well on my Iolite. I saw iGO8 working and it looked quite good, so attempted to install it on mine too. After installation, I have been trying to get it working since yesterday
The installation is always successful. But when I try to launch the application, the curser changes as if the phone is doing something / about to launch the application, but then nothing happens.
I dug out other threads which are about other phones having trouble with iGO8 but did not find a thread about Iolite.
Has any one tried to install iGO on their Iolite / XDA Guide / Touch cruise 09 so far (successfully or unsuccessfully) ??
I would be very grateful if I can get help on this issue please

gamezbond said:
Hi all,
I have been using TOMTOM 7 so far which works well on my Iolite. I saw iGO8 working and it looked quite good, so attempted to install it on mine too. After installation, I have been trying to get it working since yesterday
The installation is always successful. But when I try to launch the application, the curser changes as if the phone is doing something / about to launch the application, but then nothing happens.
I dug out other threads which are about other phones having trouble with iGO8 but did not find a thread about Iolite.
Has any one tried to install iGO on their Iolite / XDA Guide / Touch cruise 09 so far (successfully or unsuccessfully) ??
I would be very grateful if I can get help on this issue please
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Try this: edit your sys.txt and compare.
My sys.txt:
[project]
name="igo8_pda"
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
remember, you have 2 sys.txt, on the SD-Card in "IGO8", and in "\Programs\IGO8". booth must be the same.
Greetings!

Many thanks mirko.prinz,
I will try that.
Is that from an Iolite or a different phone?
I've noticed that Iolite is not in the supported list on iGO website but iGO actually looked so good that I am still determined to get it working.
I will report how it goes later.
Thanks

My current sys.txt says:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
I am about to try your version and will let you know how it goes.

OK, I tried that, still the same. Seems as if its about to do something, and then nothing
Anything else I should try ?
Many thanks for your help.

gamezbond said:
OK, I tried that, still the same. Seems as if its about to do something, and then nothing
Anything else I should try ?
Many thanks for your help.
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Maybe, you have the wrong version? They are PDA and PNA-Versions. What you was buying? What is the version-number?

Mine is iGO 8. Or do you need the exact version number like 8.0.0.335 etc ?
I can check the exact version when I get home, unless you know how to check it in my phone? I have the iGO8 directory and the included files in my phone and can check it now if you can tel lme where to check please?
Thanks.

On the phone only, when it runs. Look at home. Maybe, some versions not running on iolite. My version is 8.3.2.97313 They makes trouble with EZInput 2.1 (makes self many characters "Ä" in the input-line)

OK, try this: backup your IGO-files, then change data.zip and branding.zip from here
http://www.4shared.com/file/153951601/9e4f5553/BRANDING.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/153952106/17d1799b/DATA.html
When it not helps, uninstall IGO, take the files from the unpacked IGO8-fix.zip,
(http://www.4shared.com/file/153952792/c5f37a79/IGO8-fix.html)
put it in your folder named iGO8 of the SD-Card and then reinstall it (autorun from the folder 2577)
Don´t forget, backup your files befor!
Greetings!

Thanks, I wil ltry these fixes when I get home this eve and will report back.
regards,
GB

Last night I started to try the changes but got side tracked by the following circumstances !
Firstly I thought I should check the version I have been trying on my Wife’s phone (XDA Orbit 2 / Polaris). So I installed the program, and then added the maps etc. Started the program and it worked flawlessly.
Now the wife was happy and that means I was too. Apart from that I knew that the installation and the maps etc itself have no problems. So it must be that this iGO is just not compatible with Iolite.
Then, I thought I will re-install the program clean, before trying your changes. But this time I tried a different version which is iGo 8.3.4.102680 .
Seems like this is quite different from the other iGO8 version I was trying previously. Unfortunately I never got that version to ever start or even display the splash screen so I don’t know exactly what version it was.
But after installing iGo 8.3.4.102680 on my Iolite, I was nicely surprised when the program actually displayed the initial splash `screen ( as this is the first time I have seen it working on an Iolite). I waited and the program actually started
The problem is, that because I had the old maps from the other version, iGO says that the maps are out of date and need updating.
So for the benefit of others, at least now we (Iolite owners) know that version 8.3.4.102680 definitely works on Iolites (even though the iGO website does not include Iolite in the supported devices).
Unfortunately I don’t have the maps for iGO 8.3.4.102680
mirko.prinz.... If no other development tonight, I will re-install the old version tonight and go through your fixes you mentioned above. Sorri didn’t get a chance last night due to seeing (some) light at the end of a (different) tunnel if you know what I mean
So now I have two versions, one with maps (that doesn’t work on Iolite) and one that works with Iolite (but doesn’t have the maps) !!
So I would be very grateful if someone here could donate the UK maps for testing this version pleeeeez ??????
Unless someone also knows how to use the old maps with the new iGO versions?

When you a little bit understand german, you should look at here
Greetings!

gamezbond said:
Last night I started to try the changes but got side tracked by the following circumstances !
Firstly I thought I should check the version I have been trying on my Wife’s phone (XDA Orbit 2 / Polaris). So I installed the program, and then added the maps etc. Started the program and it worked flawlessly.
Now the wife was happy and that means I was too. Apart from that I knew that the installation and the maps etc itself have no problems. So it must be that this iGO is just not compatible with Iolite.
Then, I thought I will re-install the program clean, before trying your changes. But this time I tried a different version which is iGo 8.3.4.102680 .
Seems like this is quite different from the other iGO8 version I was trying previously. Unfortunately I never got that version to ever start or even display the splash screen so I don’t know exactly what version it was.
But after installing iGo 8.3.4.102680 on my Iolite, I was nicely surprised when the program actually displayed the initial splash `screen ( as this is the first time I have seen it working on an Iolite). I waited and the program actually started
The problem is, that because I had the old maps from the other version, iGO says that the maps are out of date and need updating.
So for the benefit of others, at least now we (Iolite owners) know that version 8.3.4.102680 definitely works on Iolites (even though the iGO website does not include Iolite in the supported devices).
Unfortunately I don’t have the maps for iGO 8.3.4.102680
mirko.prinz.... If no other development tonight, I will re-install the old version tonight and go through your fixes you mentioned above. Sorri didn’t get a chance last night due to seeing (some) light at the end of a (different) tunnel if you know what I mean
So now I have two versions, one with maps (that doesn’t work on Iolite) and one that works with Iolite (but doesn’t have the maps) !!
So I would be very grateful if someone here could donate the UK maps for testing this version pleeeeez ??????
Unless someone also knows how to use the old maps with the new iGO versions?
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http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=6ixndwsrsu
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=yx02icf0lq

Many thanks mirko.prinz and stdk,
I will check out all your links tonight and will report on how it goes.
Regards,
GB

Hi mirko.prinz and stdk,
Once again thanks for the files and solutions.
I installed the maps to test, and turns out that some how the maps I have are not compatible. After installing the UK maps from stdk (thanks again) the country changed from HUNGARY to the UK (initially I could only see Hungary with my own maps and thats how far it got before I replaced the maps with the above given links).
So finally its all wrking. Thanks to both of you, hopefully I wont get lost again
Next step will be to find out how to back up my own original ROM, so I can test some of the better ones from here
Thank you.
GB

keyboard problem
Dear all,
You are all treating the issue of "Ä" typing characters as you have a workaround for that. I've tried changing the keyboard to the default keyboard of Win 6.1 and had the surprise of being capable of introducing street name, country etc, but when I got back into writing emails I had the ezinput 2.1 keyboard again as default. Opened Igo and started having the same problems with the "Ä" character.
Any other workaround? It's hard to get into registry and change the keyboard each time you want to use Igo instead of SMS or emails, not to mention is not ergonomically to have to switch from one keyboard to another. Is there any other keyboard which works ok both with Igo and any other applications in which occurs writing?
Thanks,
Alex
mirko.prinz said:
On the phone only, when it runs. Look at home. Maybe, some versions not running on iolite. My version is 8.3.2.97313 They makes trouble with EZInput 2.1 (makes self many characters "Ä" in the input-line)
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I think, I was reading anywhere about a programm, that changes input-methods. It is a while ago. Must use google.
Greetings!

alexman1982 said:
Dear all,
You are all treating the issue of "Ä" typing characters as you have a workaround for that. I've tried changing the keyboard to the default keyboard of Win 6.1 and had the surprise of being capable of introducing street name, country etc, but when I got back into writing emails I had the ezinput 2.1 keyboard again as default. Opened Igo and started having the same problems with the "Ä" character.
Any other workaround? It's hard to get into registry and change the keyboard each time you want to use Igo instead of SMS or emails, not to mention is not ergonomically to have to switch from one keyboard to another. Is there any other keyboard which works ok both with Igo and any other applications in which occurs writing?
Thanks,
Alex
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You can try fingerkeyboard 2.1, i find it a good compromise. It works in igo 8, and is finger friendly...
But ezinput still keeps resetting itself as default!

Blubster said:
You can try fingerkeyboard 2.1, i find it a good compromise. It works in igo 8, and is finger friendly...
But ezinput still keeps resetting itself as default!
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That U can change with SKTOOLS.
Greetings!

Question about ROMS, NAVIPANEL and COPILOT (SOLVED!)

I've read that some people have removed CoPilot and Navipanel from their custom Roms. Thing is I've flashed to 2.10 and 2.11 STOCK Roms and never saw that NaviPanel and Copilot were working together. I saw Navitel working with NaviPanel even after installing CoPilot and the Copilot update for HD2. So why can't it work? What Roms were you guys using that did work with NaviPanel and Copilot?
Also, to anyone making custom roms, PLEASE don't remove NaviPanel. No one has been able to restore it through cab files and the ROM is usually the culprit that can't get it restored. Just asking because a lot of custom Rom creators are taking away or putting in programs that require updates or you'll require to install and you can't do it. So please don't do that anymore

Bump, come on somebody. Why are all the custom rom's NaviPanel not working?

By not working I mean all the buttons except PHONE are grayed out.

I think I've figured out some things here. The ORIGINAL HD2 NOT THE TMOBILE VERSION came with CoPilot being run by default on NaviPanel. TeleNav was the one that NaviPanel runs by default on Tmobile version of HD2. I just wonder what differences could be made to enable NaviPanel. Some have posted some success with some minor registry tweaks to just OPEN their GPS program of choice, but not the actual ACTION which the button is suppose to do (Like Navigation, Home, etc.)

Navipanel and Copilot
I also have been having quite a bit a problems with this.
After a number of rom flashes, I now have some basic functionnality.
For the record, I have a telstra hd2 with Miri rom (with the 576 mb of ram). I got the full version with sense. This is available at htcpedia.com.
First thing, you need to download the Laurentius27 GPS copilot 1.0.0.457 cab.
Here is the link:
http://www.4shared.com/file/192636567/3129888e/Laurentius26_GPS_Copilot_1_0_0.html
The 659 version (see the 2577 file) provided by Copilot will not work with Navipanel. Also, the April 6 copilot hd2 us update also does not work with navipanel.
Also, I found that I needed to install an icon and a .lnk file in the registry (I modified the cab of Laurentius) so as to do this. This enabled all the buttons whereas before I only could use the phone button.
All the buttons work. I can access my phone and favorites as well as footprints photos etc.
The problem is that none of the info is transferred to copilot. So clicking on the home button will only open copilot. Same for the recent etc.
I am looking to see if there is some intermediary file that may be missing to enable communication between copilot and sense. This should be some type of database or xml file. I am guessing that this file was present in the early european rom but not in the later asian and tmobile ones. All the cooks migrated to the newer roms and the file was left behind.
So, to install and have copilot working with navipanel on HD2.
1. Uninstall copilot but not the maps on your storage card.
2. Install in memory (not storage) the Laurentius gps cab above.
3. Install in memory (not storage) the icons using the attached cab navipanel cab file.

Thanks for your reply. Still before you replied I went ahead and tried the Dutty's Rom at HTCPedia. They had a CoPilot cab that did the same thing you explained. Problem now is, it doesn't do the exact ACTION that it's supposed to do (like you stated). So now I'm looking for that solution. Any chance you know how to fix that?

darrengladysz said:
I also have been having quite a bit a problems with this.
After a number of rom flashes, I now have some basic functionnality.
For the record, I have a telstra hd2 with Miri rom (with the 576 mb of ram). I got the full version with sense. This is available at htcpedia.com.
First thing, you need to download the Laurentius27 GPS copilot 1.0.0.457 cab.
Here is the link:
http://www.4shared.com/file/192636567/3129888e/Laurentius26_GPS_Copilot_1_0_0.html
The 659 version (see the 2577 file) provided by Copilot will not work with Navipanel. Also, the April 6 copilot hd2 us update also does not work with navipanel.
Also, I found that I needed to install an icon and a .lnk file in the registry (I modified the cab of Laurentius) so as to do this. This enabled all the buttons whereas before I only could use the phone button.
All the buttons work. I can access my phone and favorites as well as footprints photos etc.
The problem is that none of the info is transferred to copilot. So clicking on the home button will only open copilot. Same for the recent etc.
I am looking to see if there is some intermediary file that may be missing to enable communication between copilot and sense. This should be some type of database or xml file. I am guessing that this file was present in the early european rom but not in the later asian and tmobile ones. All the cooks migrated to the newer roms and the file was left behind.
So, to install and have copilot working with navipanel on HD2.
1. Uninstall copilot but not the maps on your storage card.
2. Install in memory (not storage) the Laurentius gps cab above.
3. Install in memory (not storage) the icons using the attached cab navipanel cab file.
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Truth is I think even the American HD2s had NaviPanel written to CoPilot. Tmobile never had it so no use looking there. The Asian ones I can't say I know anything about. At one point there HAS to be a stock rom that had copilot working with navipanel. It just confuses me that this is one of those things that NO ONE tried to fix/perfect in any of their own roms.

Copilot - Navipanel lack of interaction
Phenomenon said:
Thanks for your reply. Still before you replied I went ahead and tried the Dutty's Rom at HTCPedia. They had a CoPilot cab that did the same thing you explained. Problem now is, it doesn't do the exact ACTION that it's supposed to do (like you stated). So now I'm looking for that solution. Any chance you know how to fix that?
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Interesting. I tried Dutty's copilot cab with Miri's rom and it did not work!
Guess the problems might even be more rom specific then I thought.
Did that cab install a navipanel icon for you and if so where?
What is the version of the copilot that it installed?
BTW for your info, the European rom is the one that had navipanel (rom 1.43 and 1.48). The reason I suspect this is the htc hd2 user manual details how to use navipanel. I suspect the missing links are buried in the 1.43 and 1.48 rom which were the initial roms with the t8585. Now cooks are on 2.1. so it will be a challenge to find a cook to return to an old rom to find missing links to then integrate the missing links in the new roms.
BTW here is the link to the latest English Uk rom v1.48 (from htcpedia)
http://htcpedia.com/official_wm_updated_rom_htc_hd_leo_english_europe_version/soft/htc-leo-rom.html
I may try to flash a stock 1.43 or 1.48 to see if it works and if so I will install a kitchen to try and extract this.
Thanks

darrengladysz said:
Interesting. I tried Dutty's copilot cab with Miri's rom and it did not work!
Guess the problems might even be more rom specific then I thought.
Did that cab install a navipanel icon for you and if so where?
What is the version of the copilot that it installed?
BTW for your info, the European rom is the one that had navipanel (rom 1.43 and 1.48). The reason I suspect this is the htc hd2 user manual details how to use navipanel. I suspect the missing links are buried in the 1.43 and 1.48 rom which were the initial roms with the t8585. Now cooks are on 2.1. so it will be a challenge to find a cook to return to an old rom to find missing links.
I may try to flash a stock 1.43 or 1.48 to see if it works and if so I will install a kitchen to try and extract this.
Thanks
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Well, I'm not sure what version it is. I think it's a older version, because when installing the newer "HD2" version the UI changes a little. Duttys apps tend to be very specific to his roms. I know only because I've tried his other apps like the eReader, Documents tab, etc and they never function on other roms as well as on his. I can't say I've seen any Tmobile roms that had the CoPilot app in it. Even the stock roms here have the TeleNav on it routed to NaviPanel by default. NaviPanel never really had an icon for me. I just did the /Windows NaviPanel thing to open the NaviPanel program. I'm currently just waiting to get my carkit to use it correctly. I dunno, I contacted Dutty and it seems he doesn't have a solution for routing the correct action to it either. So we'll have to see what happens.

darrengladysz said:
Interesting. I tried Dutty's copilot cab with Miri's rom and it did not work!
Guess the problems might even be more rom specific then I thought.
Did that cab install a navipanel icon for you and if so where?
What is the version of the copilot that it installed?
BTW for your info, the European rom is the one that had navipanel (rom 1.43 and 1.48). The reason I suspect this is the htc hd2 user manual details how to use navipanel. I suspect the missing links are buried in the 1.43 and 1.48 rom which were the initial roms with the t8585. Now cooks are on 2.1. so it will be a challenge to find a cook to return to an old rom to find missing links to then integrate the missing links in the new roms.
BTW here is the link to the latest English Uk rom v1.48 (from htcpedia)
http://htcpedia.com/official_wm_updated_rom_htc_hd_leo_english_europe_version/soft/htc-leo-rom.html
I may try to flash a stock 1.43 or 1.48 to see if it works and if so I will install a kitchen to try and extract this.
Thanks
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Just remember though the Dutty CoPilot install didn't get me anywhere different than where you are. The only thing it did was ungray the buttons and every button except FootPrint and Phone launch CoPilot. It seemed to have installed the version of CoPilot that just came with the original HD2 (im guessing so because Dutty owns a normal HD2 not Tmobile branded). Of course I think that when he extracted it not ALL of the registry or xml or database was extracted with it. By the way I'm using the latest version of Duttys rom. The one with the 2.11 OEM driver build from tmobile.

Navipanel icon
If you want, try the navipanel cab I posted. It should give you an icon (credit for the icon goes to Laurentius),
All this does is copy a navipanel png to the windows directory and registers a link for that icon.
Let me know if it works.
I will try stock rom 1.48 shortly Too curious.

darrengladysz said:
If you want, try the navipanel cab I posted. It should give you an icon (credit for the icon goes to Laurentius),
All this does is copy a navipanel png to the windows directory and registers a link for that icon.
Let me know if it works.
I will try stock rom 1.48 shortly Too curious.
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Cool, let me know how it goes.

darrengladysz said:
If you want, try the navipanel cab I posted. It should give you an icon (credit for the icon goes to Laurentius),
All this does is copy a navipanel png to the windows directory and registers a link for that icon.
Let me know if it works.
I will try stock rom 1.48 shortly Too curious.
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the 1.48 is a european rom right? I'm in US so I don't think itd work with me.

I just thought i'd suggest you use iGo8. Im using it with my us htc hd2, in california, works perfect no data usage needed and was free =]]
Whats good about copilot and navipanel???

Navipanel and 1.48 rom
Just downloaded and flashed 1.48 uk rom.
Navipanel works fine but the links only open copilot. Address, recent etc. do not work. Maybe at a later date.
Going back to a more recent ROM
I looked into the user guide for the uk versions. Here is the link:
http://member.america.htc.com/download/web_materials/Manual/HTC_HD2/091229_HD2_HTC_WWE_UM.pdf
It does not mention any special link with address, recent etc. So I guess that may be why it is not working. Maybe in the future
I am looking into getting a copilot sdk and maybe there is something to do with this but then I also need to modify the navipanel dll and exe! More learning ...
Also, the only mention of copilot was to save the footprint pictures in the my document\my poi folder on device and folder and these would be accessible to copilot photonav but did not have any success there as well.
I am looking at copilot as this is I find it cool that it integrates with navipanel and the pinch to zoom is nice. Although I must say that their maps are outdated. At present, if I believe their maps, I would be underwater I posted an update request as their ask we do so will need to look into if this is actually followed up.
Google maps is still the most acurate but now I have a limited data plan and want to be able to use the maps features when roaming or in Europe.
javydawg please check your inbox
Thanks

javydawg said:
I just thought i'd suggest you use iGo8. Im using it with my us htc hd2, in california, works perfect no data usage needed and was free =]]
Whats good about copilot and navipanel???
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Well it's not that we can't get CoPilot to work. Any GPS program works on the HD2 as far as I've read (some with some tweaks). We are just trying to find a way to run it from NaviPanel. Navipanel is something that activates whenever you plug it into your carkit for the HD2. Nothing is so "great" about it, but it's a feature that we want to activate and use. And as I've said before no one that has built any custom rom has been able to correctly apply NaviPanel with any GPS program to date.

darrengladysz said:
Just downloaded and flashed 1.48 uk rom.
Navipanel works fine but the links only open copilot. Address, recent etc. do not work. Maybe at a later date.
Going back to a more recent ROM
I looked into the user guide for the uk versions. Here is the link:
http://member.america.htc.com/download/web_materials/Manual/HTC_HD2/091229_HD2_HTC_WWE_UM.pdf
It does not mention any special link with address, recent etc. So I guess that may be why it is not working. Maybe in the future
I am looking into getting a copilot sdk and maybe there is something to do with this but then I also need to modify the navipanel dll and exe! More learning ...
Also, the only mention of copilot was to save the footprint pictures in the my document\my poi folder on device and folder and these would be accessible to copilot photonav but did not have any success there as well.
I am looking at copilot as this is I find it cool that it integrates with navipanel and the pinch to zoom is nice. Although I must say that their maps are outdated. At present, if I believe their maps, I would be underwater I posted an update request as their ask we do so will need to look into if this is actually followed up.
Google maps is still the most acurate but now I have a limited data plan and want to be able to use the maps features when roaming or in Europe.
javydawg please check your inbox
Thanks
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Sigh, I guess it's just a feature that never existed then. I can't find much proof that it ever did unless it was a HTC HD2 unbranded. Thanks anyways tho man.

darrengladysz said:
Just downloaded and flashed 1.48 uk rom.
Navipanel works fine but the links only open copilot. Address, recent etc. do not work. Maybe at a later date.
Going back to a more recent ROM
I looked into the user guide for the uk versions. Here is the link:
http://member.america.htc.com/download/web_materials/Manual/HTC_HD2/091229_HD2_HTC_WWE_UM.pdf
It does not mention any special link with address, recent etc. So I guess that may be why it is not working. Maybe in the future
I am looking into getting a copilot sdk and maybe there is something to do with this but then I also need to modify the navipanel dll and exe! More learning ...
Also, the only mention of copilot was to save the footprint pictures in the my document\my poi folder on device and folder and these would be accessible to copilot photonav but did not have any success there as well.
I am looking at copilot as this is I find it cool that it integrates with navipanel and the pinch to zoom is nice. Although I must say that their maps are outdated. At present, if I believe their maps, I would be underwater I posted an update request as their ask we do so will need to look into if this is actually followed up.
Google maps is still the most acurate but now I have a limited data plan and want to be able to use the maps features when roaming or in Europe.
javydawg please check your inbox
Thanks
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After digging around I think I found some information, but nothing amazing unfortunately.
According to HTC HD2 users, while it was normal for NaviPanel to be hard coded to CoPilot the beginning version (the one built into the rom) didn't do anything but just OPEN the program itself. That's right, basically we are where they were in the beginning.
BUT
After CoPilot came out with the "HD2" update it fixed 2 things. The Home button would open up the menu for you to click your home location and be routed there. Also, the Footprint button would open up CoPilot to again route to where that footprint was taken. Those 2 things were the ONLY improvements on that "HD2" update. Now, yeah it's not an amazing update, still I want to have those features. So currently I'm just looking to see if anyone can provide the original files that were linking CoPilot and NaviPanel. SOMETHING in those will provide the solution to this.

Navipanel copilot integration update
Hi,
I have been exchanging emails with copilot support for navipanel integration. They were very helpful and prompt.
I am happy to post that they have got the integration fully working!
They sent me an upgraded licence key that enables full navipanel and copilot interaction.
Home now opens up copilot and takes me home within copilot.
Recent opens up copilot and gives me my recent locations.
Adresses now opens up adresses in copilot
Footprint also works, I can now get to the Statue of Liberty! Paris is a bit tougher however From Canada at least. You can now take geotagged pictures in footprints and route to them using navipanel and copilot!
If you have copilot, contact support to get the upgrade code (it is free)!.
You need to contact support at:
CoPilot Technical Support
http://support.alk.com
Navipanel is a cool feature to have, make sure your custom rom supports however or see my previous post!

Yep, that really did it. I was just talking to ALK when you sent me that PM lol. Turns out the upgrade key somehow manages to enable those functions for NaviPanel. Please somehow make this a sticky. At one point people WILL come in asking for a NaviPanel/CoPilot fix.