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hmmm it just seems to lag more than it did when i got it on monday. the clock when theres clouds moving around lags like hell and the scrolling sometimes lags especially on contacts and scrolling down the home screen to look at the apps. the cover flow also seems to have terrible lag. grrr come on HTC give us some relief!! in the form of an update!!
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id like to know to know how well the phone performs after having used for at least 24 hours. I hear People complain about it lagging and being slow when switching homescreens specially if you add TouchWiz3 Widgets????
Im thinking of ordering one but want to hear from you guys. I Really dont support Samsung too much because well, THEY dont support their customers either. They say one thing with updates and promises but at the end they never fullfill their words. Any ideas???
If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
Yeah you can use Launcher PRO instead.
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
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yea just use adw launcher or launcher pro. Fast as can be with either of those. But im digging the TW for now without the widgets...
Awesome. Thanks for the replies. i guess ill be picking one up later around 6pm at T-Mobile Corp. Store.
Only Thing i hate is after playing with nexus one, mytouch slide, HD2, i will be missing the Led Flash which i still wonder why they would not add such feauture.
Kinda makes me think its because they want to launch a new phone not too far away and add Flash so people want to upgrade their current phones to that:/
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
I have had mine since Friday, used it with TW and samsung widgets without issue, but I like the customization from adw so I have been using that for the last couple days. So far I have no complaints about speed, just hoping the gps and compass issues get fixed soon.
I have 3 widgets, one of them being Buddies now and get very little lag. Only the pause when coming back to the home screen (not always happening)
New owner I have one widget no lag at all.
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I always love ADW because of the options and ESPECIALLY the "Drop to Uninstall" option.
but ADW would be just another program running, using more RAM. less use the better.
Yeah from what I can tell the TWLauncher is pretty light on the battery.
i just got rid of the 7 screens and am just using 1. i am gonna see if this helps with the overall performance of the phone. (from the homescreen> menu (haptic button)>edit> then delete the homescreens to your heart's content . You can always put them back by using the same method
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I currently have five screens, one has Weather Widget and battery widget, another has the feeds and updates widget, then 2 widgets for stocks (that only update when i tell them to) and youtube and google search widgets. No live wallpaper either. When adding more TW widgets, swiping screens is slower than my old mytouch.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I was running fine for a couple of days and then I started noticing the lag. Selecting the Settings menu would take a couple of seconds. Camera would take a while. I have also had 3 or 4 freezes and had to reboot my phone. Hardly ever happened on the G1 in two years. Would get a black screen for 3-4 seconds in between operations. No spinner. Initially kept thinking the phone was going to sleep.
I have 5 screens with the buddies widget, 2 picture frames, the double daily time widget and Google Search. Shouldn't be causing this hardware to so much as break sweat. I tried removing all widgets. But it didn't help.
What did help was rooting the phone and running the script to move the apps to NAND. But of course there's a limitation on the number of apps. So far, after doing this, it's much better. I'll see if this holds.
The lags have ruined an otherwise outstanding experience on this phone. I'm very disappointed with this performance on this hardware.
What's interesting here is that it's working well for some of you. Which makes it inexplicable why moving the apps to NAND should make such a difference. If this were a problem with the cache, it should have been a problem on every phone. Don't understand this.
The good news is that almost all of the problems I have with the phone should be software fixable.
When it works well, it truly is an amazing device.
I'm very interested in doing the lag fix but I'm intimidated by the process. Is it worth trying to learn ADB? Or should I wait until September for the 2.2 release?
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I have major lag only when using my corporate email (Exchange active sync). just opening, composing or deleting takes about 5 to 8 sec. Has anyone else experienced this?
Just saw this video on downloadsquad.com which showcases the Quick Office app on the XOOM. I hope its not this sluggish when moving images like that thru out the entire OS. The browser lag on my Nexus S is already making me cringe. Anyone else?
http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2...ff-version-for-android-3-0-honeycomb-tablets/
looks like it isnt slow it is snapping to a grid
ofcourse at the end they say its not yet on the android market yet.
could be sluggish becouse it beeing a test version
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
vinokirk said:
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.
Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.
I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )
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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it
Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...
ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.
I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.
Hello,
As the title suggests, I am experiencing a little bit of trouble with TouchWiz stuttering from time to time.
By stuttering, I mean when scrolling across home screens from time to time it will lag. Going to the app drawer sometimes lags and when scrolling in the app drawer it sometimes lags too.
It doesn't stop there; sometimes when I open/close a folder the animation is quite laggy, going into TouchWiz based apps suzh as Phone, Contacts, Messaging etc. seems slow to open (I know you can keep them in memory, but you should't have to on a phone as powerful as this).
The most confusing part is the camera app... When taking a picture there is shutter lag, and the S3 boasted 0 shutter lag, and so does the S4... But there is some lag there too.
Any suggestions on how I can improve performance?
Things I've tried:
FULL Reset.
Regular RAM clearance.
ROMs (which I don't like because they always have something wrong).
Turning off ALL pointless features.
Turning off animations.
Overclocking, which somehow make everything worse on a different kernel.
So I've tried a lot, but not everything. A different ROM is out of the question.
And yes, I know that Samsung under develop TouchWiz which is why it is laggy, but has anyone tried to re-design it? Make it better?
Lag and/or stuttering on a phone that has a Snapdragon 600 and 2GB of RAM is just ridiculous. And I know, the best of phone experience lag... I've seen my mate's iPhone 5 lag; but that doesn't lag all of the time, and that's not even close to being as powerful as the S4 (taking many factors out of it).
Thank you in advance for any and all help, it's much appreciated!
Thanks.
A-Sweaty-Wombat said:
Hello,
As the title suggests, I am experiencing a little bit of trouble with TouchWiz stuttering from time to time.
By stuttering, I mean when scrolling across home screens from time to time it will lag. Going to the app drawer sometimes lags and when scrolling in the app drawer it sometimes lags too.
It doesn't stop there; sometimes when I open/close a folder the animation is quite laggy, going into TouchWiz based apps suzh as Phone, Contacts, Messaging etc. seems slow to open (I know you can keep them in memory, but you should't have to on a phone as powerful as this).
The most confusing part is the camera app... When taking a picture there is shutter lag, and the S3 boasted 0 shutter lag, and so does the S4... But there is some lag there too.
Any suggestions on how I can improve performance?
Things I've tried:
FULL Reset.
Regular RAM clearance.
ROMs (which I don't like because they always have something wrong).
Turning off ALL pointless features.
Turning off animations.
Overclocking, which somehow make everything worse on a different kernel.
So I've tried a lot, but not everything. A different ROM is out of the question.
And yes, I know that Samsung under develop TouchWiz which is why it is laggy, but has anyone tried to re-design it? Make it better?
Lag and/or stuttering on a phone that has a Snapdragon 600 and 2GB of RAM is just ridiculous. And I know, the best of phone experience lag... I've seen my mate's iPhone 5 lag; but that doesn't lag all of the time, and that's not even close to being as powerful as the S4 (taking many factors out of it).
Thank you in advance for any and all help, it's much appreciated!
Thanks.
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For gods sake don`t overclock, its alleady hot enough bro. Debloat the rom with ROMCleaner and remove all unneeded stuff, link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348256. This will also prolong the battery.
gee2012 said:
For gods sake don`t overclock, its alleady hot enough bro. Debloat the rom with ROMCleaner and remove all unneeded stuff, link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348256. This will also prolong the battery.
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Relaaaaaaaax... It's only up to 2.1GHz... It doesn't get that much hotter to be fair. I might just completely restore it again, use stock everything and de-bloat the thing!
Cheers for the tip!
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Relaaaaaaaax... It's only up to 2.1GHz... It doesn't get that much hotter to be fair. I might just completely restore it again, use stock everything and de-bloat the thing!
Cheers for the tip!
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overclocking is not necessary. its a quad core at 1.9ghz. you're just going to make it less stable and invite issues like stuttering. it may not be lag but stuttering.
also there's no real way to fix touchwiz stuttering you really just need to replace the launcher, dialer, and texting app to help out.
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overclocking is not necessary. its a quad core at 1.9ghz. you're just going to make it less stable and invite issues like stuttering. it may not be lag but stuttering.
also there's no real way to fix touchwiz stuttering you really just need to replace the launcher, dialer, and texting app to help out.
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Hmm, I think you're right! I'll reset back to stock kernel and firmware...
Your other point is a great suggestion, but is not possible to my knowledge because of the TouchWiz framework. If you can point me to a tutorial on how to do that, fantastic!
I wholeheartedly recommend 'Next Launcher 3D'. It is smoother than silk. Very expensive on Google Play, but the .apk is a Google search away if you want to "try before you buy"
I know you said another ROM is out of the question but if you have an i9500 then consider checking out Arrow's ROM - He has added his own transitions that make the phone experience feel very fluid, and the ROM is very fast, overall.
A-Sweaty-Wombat said:
Hmm, I think you're right! I'll reset back to stock kernel and firmware...
Your other point is a great suggestion, but is not possible to my knowledge because of the TouchWiz framework. If you can point me to a tutorial on how to do that, fantastic!
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you can simply download dialer apps, texting apps, and launcher apps.
i personally use nova launcher, handcent for texting (not the smoothest but definitely flashy and nice looking, better than the touchwiz texting app of course), and i just use the default dialer app personally because i dont do a lot of calling out, i mostly just answer calls. i text more often and use other apps way more often than calling.
this doesnt remove touchwiz, it just fixes the terrible lag that they have by not using things that are built on touchwiz
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you can simply download dialer apps, texting apps, and launcher apps.
this doesnt remove touchwiz, it just fixes the terrible lag that they have by not using things that are built on touchwiz
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Agreed, but the issue then becomes what if you want to use the TW stuff. I personally find the TouchWiz 4 x 4 Calendar widget to be the best there is. I see my entire month at a glance without having to launch anything. It even let's you scroll to other month's without launching the App.
I Love Nova and Apex; smooth as a baby's bottom. But I keep going back to Touchwiz because that calendar widget is a functional need for me. Yes home-screen scrolling stutters.