Hi, I'm deciding to move network as o2 3G is crap, as all have varying data allowance I need to know how much data I need.
How much data on average does push mail use a day?
Thanks
not that much, it uses only kilobytes of data when no new stuff is coming in. The real setback of push data is the huge amount of battery it takes up. I just keep push off, I dont see why people have to have their emails as soon as they arrive.
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hey,
i installed push email (port88) on my phone, i have had it for two months (awesome service).
The only problem is my databill is 200$... for the second time. I have a 1 meg plan. i dont receive many emails on this phone.
I apparently went over 5 megabyets. My phone doesn't go over 0.05 KB a message as i have the default option to restrict it from downloading anymore.
I probably received 80 emails in a month (thats exagerating it). If we multiply 80x0.05 we get 4. Thats 4 Kilobytes used. I also send about 6 emails a month. That's not even 10kilobytes a month.
I never use my browser and it doesn't browse to sites itself (due to being in my pocket.) And the only data i use is for my email.
Does anyone have any ideas to what can be happening?
your phone could be autoconnecting to gprs/edge. and the constant connection could be sending kb back and forth without your knowledge.
hiimcliff is right on..
The way direct push works is that it maintains an HTTP(S) connection back to the Exchange Server.. Even though you might not be receiving emails, the phone will still be sending data to maintain the connection. That's the likely cause of it.
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.
imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
be careful with that. providers are sometimes know to revert your phone back to the original and that could result in changing your plan back to a per/kb plan which can cost you loads of money.
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connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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computer9cowboy said:
connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.
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thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.
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I'm sorry, can you please rephrase taht?
imasri29 said:
lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.
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well if you had sucked it up and paid the $20 a month you would have saved money in the end.
$20 a month is a freakin steal man. TAKE IT. Then you can wire up your push email to download all your atachments and full messages, you can hook up to your laptop and let loose.
I love my unlimited data plan. I used to pay $75 a month for it. I would gladly pay that again on each device. For me I will pay whatever it takes to make my life better easier faster.
I can get up from my desk and go anywhere I please and stay connected to work, this is huge for me. Clients call my office get routed to my cell and I can look over emails they have sent. Then if need be i can pull out the laptop and get online to fix problems or whatever.
Data in my pocket, is kick ass.
Hi,
I don't have a data plan and I pay by data sessions. Each session is up to 100kb but when I look at my bill I get loads of sessions with just a few bytes even within the short time of a minute. I assume the G1 opens a session and closes it when no data is transferred to safe power. The network then interprets this as a new connection and doesn't "fil up" the last 100kb session. This sucks as I waste quite a bit of money and I'm currently looking for a way to avoid this. Apparently running a messenger in the background doesn't do the trick. Any other suggestions?
Certian apps and widget as well as the market run in the backround and use data. Go to settings then data synchronization and un check the 1st box that says backround data that might help a bit
Thanks, I didn't mention one thing: I usually deactivate my data connection (APNdroid) when I don't need it.But when I do I get this odd behaviour for example when I'm just browsing the web.(other stuff in the background deactivated)
smh
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razzledazle said:
Stop being cheap and pay $24.99 for a data plan dumb*ss. Why would you buy the ferrari and can't afford the gas. How dumb is that
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cut that out. thats no way to talk to a fellow xda member. u might wanna edit that b4 a mod sees that becuase you could get banned for that.
Uninstall all apps and don't synchronize data. That would be your best bet, but even at that I think it is going to still have several short data sessions. You could also disable data via apn's and only enable them when you are using the phone for data.
I would highly suggest getting a data plan however. My last pda phone I didn't have a data plan and only used wifi. It was such a hassle and I would have been better off with just a basic phone than spending so much time to avoid data charges.
@razzledazle, ... it wasn't very helpful. Anyway I'm not in the US so I wouldn't get this offer anyway.
The problem I'm having is that even though I only activate the data connection when I use it, the sessions are very short and I still end up paying much more than I should. I'd like to find a way to keep the session alive till I deactivate 3g again.
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Still didn't find a solution myself. On a nokia, keeping the browser open does the job and keeps the session alive... but on the G1 it doesn't.
Running all your data through a VPN should do it, that way you are using a single connection that remains open.
Download droid wall from this forum and use the whitelist mode it might help you out a bit as only things you want will open a connection
Hi there!
I'm eagerly waiting for SGS to be released in my country (Bulgaria) to take my greedy hands on it. I peronally believe that SGS is most finished Andriod mobile as for now. During waiting, I would like to ask all of happy real users a following question:
[QUESTION] Is it possible to turn all data connection surely off?
I know, there is an option to shut data off, but is it sure? In HD2 even you turned off data connection, the phone decides to turn it on by itself in matter of minutes, whithout asking for permition . Temporarily, I have a very limited data plan, so such an situation can easily get me overcharged.
Your detailed commends will be very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance!
it is possible with 3rd party programs like APN ON/OFF, Data On Demand, etc..
Yes, there is an app called APNDroid on the Market that changes the APN settings when you want to turn off data. This way you can be sure it won't use any data as the APNs don't work.
I use APNdroid, a free app, for turning of data traffic. Up until now, a week, it has not been turned on automatically. It pretty much works the way I expect it too.
However no guarantees. Even APNdroid says that some programs might remain active, but my battery certainly improves with turned of 3G.
Thank you for immediate answers. It prety much seems that APNDroid will do the job. However, next question arrose:
[QUESTION] How can you supervise your data traffic, e.g. how many MB you've already spent?
Great forum, tho.
Best.
I use 3G Watchdog. You can set a monthly data limit which is nice. And it works together with APNdroid by shutting off 3G automatically when you for example reach 99% of that monthly quota. It doesn't do this out of the box. You have to enable the feature in the settings of 3G Watchdog after installing APNdroid.
I suggest that you install 3G Watchdog app first.
Yes, I too use 3G Watchdog.
Very nice App and you get to see both Received & Transmitted data for:-
Quota
Today
Week
Month
Thank you very much for the comprehensive answers of yours!
I have no more questions. Waiting for the release date.
Wish you nice day.
Can't believe I had a text from o2 stating I had used all my 500MB data in only two weeks...without hardly using the internet away from wifi, ok I have had my data and auto update on until now.
With Windows Mobile I never got close to the 500mb per month, why does Android use so much ?
Am I doing something wrong?
THUDUK said:
Can't believe I had a text from o2 stating I had used all my 500MB data in only two weeks...without hardly using the internet away from wifi, ok I have had my data and auto update on until now.
With Windows Mobile I never got close to the 500mb per month, why does Android use so much ?
Am I doing something wrong?
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The majority of apps that you use with ANDROID run in the background and need this turned on for it to work.
If you want to minimise this impact go to the settings, wireless networks and change the background data option to off so that the apps cannot use this all the time. You usually have a constant connection to data when you have android.
This is from what I noticed having got a similar message from Vodafone, once I took the steps above then it stopped but I am arguing with Vodafone atm anyway as I signed an 'uncapped' contract, they are trying to screw me.
I had the same issue with t mobile, two months running I hit my 1gb limit and had my already speed limited access severely cut until next pay date. On t mobile though, if you buy an Android phone you automatically (or should) be put on a unrestricted speed 3gb plan, I sent them a few emails blagging I needed more data usage due to 'work' and they happily upgraded my allowances on speed and usage happily, I'd recommend trying the same, bit of advice though, try getting an email direct to o2s tech support rather than customer services, they usually just try and fob you off, best of luck!
Hello ladies and dudes
I have HTC HD2 TMOUS and obviously my carrier is TMOBILE US.
I was checking different roms for it and I noticed one thing.
On some, if not most, htc sense roms I was able to receive facebook, email, twitter, etc updates without having a data plan nor wifi.
I believe I have had data turned on the phone but I do not have actual data plan.
So I was working and had to check something on the phone and accidently opened email. And I noticed that it started to sync and I was like "Meh, whatcha doing stupid, I have no data plan". But All suddenly it pulled all recent email and I was able to read them even with images.
Then I tried facebook widget thing and it was pulling data too, as well as twitter.
Then I switched to vanilla froyo rom and the data thing was gone
Now I am wondering, is there a specific port that tmobile provides for free data but with maybe limited speed? or bandwidth?
Or maybe special APN settings?
I would love to see that back because it's kinda useful sometimes.
Hope someone can explain to me what it was about and if it's possible to get back.
P.S. I didn't have my wifi turned on. Plus it worked at different locations but only with data turned on in settings and with 3g+ on.
P.P.S. I did not get charged for data and I do not have data plan for sure.
P.P.P.S. I know tmobile provides free 2mb when you open new line, but this isnt my case, had this line for about half a year.
P.P.P.P.S. I don't care if the speed is 20kb/s or 3kb/s or hell 1kb/s
Woah that's awesome, Although I know nothing about T-Mobile Policies etc. Firstly though, Are you sure you haven't been charged?
sorry if im skeptical but i find it hard that your OS is affecting when you are able to get your data. Also, if you are getting data i would assume that your carrier is billing you like crazy without you realizing it
Go to my T-Mobile. Com and see if u have any data show up in ur usage. But I know that T-Mobile wont automatically add data plan to your account without notify you.
As I wrote before. I have double checked and I have NOT been charged extra.
I beleive that kernel might have something in it or APN settings.