A Day With My New N1! [Long Read] - Nexus One General

I just got though a day with my N1 and so far I am very impressed.
I was bored all morning waiting for my N1 to arrive. I was refreshing the Fedex tracking page about every 15mins. I got bored and played some video games to pass the time. After I finished a good game of Team Fortress 2 I refreshed the page. It said out for delivery, so I decided to walk up to my door and just look out. To my surprised the Fedex guy was right in front of my door about to ring the door bell. I signed off my name and got my N1.
When I first booted up the phone the first thing that jumped at me was the colors of the N1 logo. They were very nice and jumped out at me, but not too much. Then the boot animation came up. It was laggy at first but as it went though the boot up process it got ALOT smother and look very very nice.
After the phone booted up and I unlocked it the first thing I noticed was the screen. It was freaking huge and the colors looked great (still is a bit over saturated though but just a bit.)
Now about the speed. Everything on this phone is fast, however it seems as if it's skipping some frames. I don't know if this is just me or everybody but it doesn't bug me too much since it's still pretty quick.
At about 2:15 I had to go pickup my sister from school. On my way there I got a text message. When I got to a stop light I read the message then used to Speech to Text feature to reply. It works perfectly. I was very pleased.
Later at about 4:00 I was invited to hangout with some friends to celebrate someones birthday. They were having the party at a place I've never been to before. I asked my friend what the name was, searched in Google Maps and used the Navigation to get there. I heard that the phone would that the LED would light up green, yellow, and red to tell you how the traffic was but I got no such indication. As I arrived at my destination the phone pulled up a street view of my destination. My friends were impressed. Also the phone is still pretty quick while in navigation mode. A tad bit of lag but 100x faster than the G1 or myTouch while navigating. My myTouch would lag horribly if I ever got a call while navigating.
Later I decided to take some pics and videos to test the phone out.
I took a photo with the phone but it was still kinda dark so I thought it didn't flash. So I went into the options and forced it on and this is what I got. The flash on this phone sucks but it's better than no flash *cough*iPhone*cough*
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I also took some video of my friends messing around it was pretty dark still so the frame rate wasn't at its best but it still looked decent and watchable. I tried to upload the videos to youtube but it said that the files were to large to upload over 3G and said it was waiting for a WIFI connection.
*Fast Forward*
When I get home I try to upload the videos. They all failed. However youtube was doing maintenance at the time (I wasn't aware at first) so that was probably the problem.
Also I wasn't able to charge my phone all the way up when I got it today. I got it up to about 75% before I left. When I got home it was at 18%. Most likely because I used it a lot and installed some apps while I was on the go. As well as taking pictures and recording. So I'm still uncertain about the battery life. I will however be getting a car charger so I don't have to deal with that as much.
Other Things [Random]:
-When I dim the screen on my phone I get a purplish tint its kinda annoying but I know I'll get used to it. When the screen is on brighter levels it goes away.
-I find the touch sensitive buttons a bit annoying. While I was recording a video I didn't notice but I accidently held down the search button thus bringing up the voice command box which stopped my recording >:[
Still the buttons are easy to press for me I don't know why people are complaining about them.
-The screen is very responsive it will respond to the slightest touch.
-I wish I had the option to change the option from Silent to Vibrate in the lockscreen. I never have my phone on silent I would prefer to have it on vibrate to keep it quiet.
-The launcher looks cool but it feels awkward and will jump to rows. I prefer the old method where when you let go of the screen while sliding though apps it doesn't move.
-The thing (idk whats called) where you can see all your homescreens as cards on the bottom is sort of useless with only 5 screens. Might be more useful with 7 but its nice to have anyway.
-I did notice my phone jump from Edge to 3G a couple times but it wasn't that bad. It's a software issue so it'll be fixed soon anyway.
-Right now I have some unread posts in Twidgit. Instead of getting the usual purple led notification, my trackball is blinking white a couple times. I'd like some color. Again this is not a dealbreaker.
-Interactive wallpapers only work on places where an Icon should be. For example on the nexus wallpaper if your screen is filled you can't interact with the wallpaper anymore even if you press an area where there is no icon.
-Browser is fast as hell. Almost feels like my desktop. Something was wrong with Engadgets browser test.
-Facebook is integrated well, I now have my FB friends in my contacts list but notifications don't work for some reason.
-Google voice is better integrated than it was on the myTouch but works the same.
-Speaker isn't anything special in fact i think my old myTouch had a better speaker...however the phone sounds great when I plugin my headphones. This isn't much of a issue anyway since the only thing that my phone does with the speaker is ringtones or video.
-Seems to charge slow on my laptop but when I plug it into the wall the charges up really quick.
Overall I am very impressed with this device it feels like my myTouch on steriods with some extra features.
That's all for now. If you want me to check or try anything out with the phone let me know.

iVisionX01 said:
-Browser is fast as hell. Almost feels like my desktop. Engadget sucks.
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um..........

cheetah2k said:
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Sorry, Engadget did a test of the N1, Droid, and iPhone and the two android phones lagged behind but from what I've seen the browser is really fast. You can see Engadgets test here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/869/2.211

cache loading suspected! good read, thanks

iVisionX01 said:
Sorry, Engadget did a test of the N1, Droid, and iPhone and the two android phones lagged behind but from what I've seen the browser is really fast. You can see Engadgets test here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/869/2.211
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The reason he said it sucks is because it was a FAIL test. For one, they had a pre-production model, two- They had an optimized version for the iPhone (check the URL) and lastly, the N1 is NOT that slow. It takes maybe 18 seconds to load it..
try THIS video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blr7OtefrHM

JareduPS said:
The reason he said it sucks is because it was a FAIL test. For one, they had a pre-production model, two- They had an optimized version for the iPhone (check the URL) and lastly, the N1 is NOT that slow. It takes maybe 18 seconds to load it..
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Huh? The url is the same on the iphone, "www.engadget.com"?

Could you take a screen shot of what it looks like when you get a text while on the lock screen? I cant seem to find an image of it online. thanks

Oh nevermind, just checked out the Handcent sms app

Thanks for a fairly detailed usage review!
My N1's on the way, and I'm trying to read
all I can about it before it gets here.

karthikjr said:
Thanks for a fairly detailed usage review!
My N1's on the way, and I'm trying to read
all I can about it before it gets here.
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Nice, you wont regret it

karthikjr said:
Thanks for a fairly detailed usage review!
My N1's on the way, and I'm trying to read
all I can about it before it gets here.
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Same! I've been reading everything about it. I don't have the phone yet I'm already answering questions about it.
I should have mine tomorrow though! I'm getting so excited!

iVisionX01 said:
-Facebook is integrated well, I now have my FB friends in my contacts list but notifications don't work for some reason.
-Seems to charge slow on my laptop but when I plug it into the wall the charges up really quick.
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Facebook issue I think I read a fix on that go to your Facebook account setting on your desktop. Select "Notifications on Android Phone".
On the charge because the your laptop usb ports is only output max 500mA of power and your wall charger is output 980mA of power.

flowage said:
Facebook issue I think I read a fix on that go to your Facebook account setting on your desktop. Select "Notifications on Android Phone".
On the charge because the your laptop usb ports is only output max 500mA of power and your wall charger is output 980mA of power.
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What about desktop computers' USB ports?

iVisionX01 said:
Later at about 4:00 I was invited to hangout with some friends to celebrate someones birthday. They were having the party at a place I've never been to before. I asked my friend what the name was, searched in Google Maps and used the Navigation to get there. I heard that the phone would that the LED would light up green, yellow, and red to tell you how the traffic was but I got no such indication.
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Now that would be a great feature. Can anyone else confirm or deny (on a non-Nexus device)?

SylencedOne said:
Now that would be a great feature. Can anyone else confirm or deny (on a non-Nexus device)?
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I have not seen this neither on MT3G nor on N1.

Paul22000 said:
What about desktop computers' USB ports?
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It's the same, it's the USB norm.

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Saying hello

Ok,
Officially in my 30 day period for my new Evo!!! Woo Hoo. Yes I have read up on all the phones that made my top 3...and the negs and postivs on all had me with the Evo top for avail and the Droid X for top of unavail and Samsung Captivate as top of not sure whens. :^)
Well got a call this morning that they had 15 in and first come first served. I got one.
Moving to the Evo after a long time with the (basically crippled) Rapheal (Fuze). I am looking forward to my first Android and my first big screen. Actually I am almost aroused by my first big screen....
Will start digging in here a bit more indepth and still need to learn more about how to set up ALL SEVEN screens. LOL. Sweet.
She's gorgous and I need to give her a name.
Name: Evolina
Evolynne.... Evotica.... Ev-O-my lord, what are you doing? Not in public... put that back, and zip me up!!
hah beat to the punch!
hope you enjoy it! After getting up on such a spacious screen I don't think I could go back.
Ok, two days in and wondering if I am crazy to still be this excited? I ran that battery doubler thing first night (2nights ago) but probably too early in ownership to see huge changes as I also read that battery gets somewhat better after a few chargings anyway.
I really fiddled around with phone yesterday, 4g for youtube, texts, a couple of calls, lots of internet, etc. I made it from unplug at 8am to 7pm before I was totally in the red and had to plug in...not wonderful...but I made it through the day.
This morning I tested out the GPS as that is something I used a ton on the Raphael (Fuze). HOLEY CRUD!!!! This thing is fast. It had my location blue dot on screen before the map loaded and the map loaded in like 2 seconds. The Raphael would take up to 4 seconds to fully load map and avg of 30-45 seconds to find me if I had not left the city. (Once in new regions it could take up to 3 minutes to get a satellite.) The GPS is smokin fast!!!
This screen is so sexy too....Dropkick Murphys 'Dirty Glass'...watch it on youtube. Make sure to hit the HD button. DAYAMN! Sweet for a PHONE!!!
Still playing around, lots of questions about android and some of the widgets, but I might do some searching before I post my android newbie questions...LOL.
sablesurfer said:
Ok, two days in and wondering if I am crazy to still be this excited? I ran that battery doubler thing first night (2nights ago) but probably too early in ownership to see huge changes as I also read that battery gets somewhat better after a few chargings anyway.
I really fiddled around with phone yesterday, 4g for youtube, texts, a couple of calls, lots of internet, etc. I made it from unplug at 8am to 7pm before I was totally in the red and had to plug in...not wonderful...but I made it through the day.
This morning I tested out the GPS as that is something I used a ton on the Raphael (Fuze). HOLEY CRUD!!!! This thing is fast. It had my location blue dot on screen before the map loaded and the map loaded in like 2 seconds. The Raphael would take up to 4 seconds to fully load map and avg of 30-45 seconds to find me if I had not left the city. (Once in new regions it could take up to 3 minutes to get a satellite.) The GPS is smokin fast!!!
This screen is so sexy too....Dropkick Murphys 'Dirty Glass'...watch it on youtube. Make sure to hit the HD button. DAYAMN! Sweet for a PHONE!!!
Still playing around, lots of questions about android and some of the widgets, but I might do some searching before I post my android newbie questions...LOL.
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I like you
Ok, ran into my first annoyance...and now my first REAL aggravation with this phone.
Last night I tried to use the Market just to see. I have had a google account from back in the dark ages when I used their forums for Macromedia software discussion (no, they do not exist anymore). So I had to blindly figure out how to set up that google log in for my phone.
There are NO instructions ANYWHERE on the internet about setting up the google account on your phone. Nope...none. It is all assumed. (No I don't need you to prove me wrong)
Anyway, then I went to market and tried to download. They just hung. I could get into the Market and select the ones I wanted...but the download just hung at 'starting download'.
Many hours of searching found that this happened to people in UK when then went from googlemail to gmail...but I wasn't. Never had or wanted a gmail account.
I thought maybe I'd give it a go at a gmail account. Well after about 30 minutes of trying to find a user name that was available I just gave the F up.
All of that was merely annoying, because I had faith there was a way and I was just missing something. So this afternoon I went to the Sprint store and they all just looked at me strange when I said I didn't actually have gmail...just a google account. I finally agreed to persevere and set up a gmail account. I have and it only took another 15 minutes of trying user names. GAH!!!
Now...it turns out the Evo has NO way to remove the old account. None..nada. I even tried to add a new and delete the other. Nope. When you attempt it, a popup says that you must reset to factory.
I have tried the changing password from pc fix - The Evo only allows password change not user name
I have tried the clearing data - but there IS NO SUCH BUTTON in the manage accounts area. (I tried force stop to see if button would show..nope)
So this is where I start to get seriously ticked off. There is no way to EVER change accounts? Really? WHAT THE FRICK?!?! Really? I have to reset to factory and lose EVERYTHING because I have NO apps because I can't get any apps because I can't change my account?
And did the Sprint store warn me of this in anyway? NOPE. CRAP Damn frick!!!!
F'n amazing. Works if you do it right from the start. Too bad no-one bothered to explain that the Evo will never let you change. Now to continue with getting to know this little lady.
First fight over...download from Market is working.
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Ok, 'nuther update.
Well today's surprise is that the battery went a WHOLE day and a bit!! Yep, put her on to charge two nights ago...by end of day yesterday (8pm) still had about 38% charge.
Since I still live in the camp where all batteries need to be conditioned...and evidence here seems to bear (bare?) that out...I wasn't ready to plug her in for charge. Then this morning still had like 28% charge left. (Based off whatever battery app I have installed.)
This morning made a few texts, some test MMS's (more later), some web browsing etc. No calls this morning. OH...and I had google maps on going to work. So with all that, I still made it to about 5 minutes ago when phone shut down. So that is what...about 28 hours on a charge? Getting better! First few charges barely made it through till 7pm of that day.
Still diggin on my Evoline and showing her off. As bad as a teenager with his first GF. (Boss walked by, 'you still showing off your phone?' 'yeah! wanna see this?' <pointing to web page resolution> 'no, i'm uhm late'...)
Last night I found that the Evo is really really really severly limited when it comes to MMS's. Like enough that I am seriously upset. (I really didn't subscribe to the 30fps is crippled arguement as she is fast for me.) BUT...now I am subscribing to the IS A DAMN SMART PHONE WITH TOP HARDWARE WHY ARE YOU SCREWING HER UP...arguement!! GAH. All photos from Evo are resized smaller than 80k. All photos RECEIVED are also resized to nasty, grainy, horrible looking things.
MMS was a deal breaker for me in past...and this one I just cannot let go. Not sure if I need to blame HTC or Sprint for this one. (It seems there are only a few of us in the world that care about this feature..but we are passionate!)
So that said..I get that some phones cant, or that some networks cant, or whatever...but I have the largest screen (not counting Dell Streak) and top end graphics...there is NO NEED to limit my incoming MMS's. And that out going crap is way overboard!!
I still have about 2.5 weeks to determine where my deal breakers are and what I can live with....
Great - Google Maps, Camera, Android (although no instructions anywhere), screen.
Good - Blue tooth for my stereo headset works as good as others, SMS seems to be working fine, no build problems others have had
Not so good - Power button seems more difficult on mine than displays in store(?), no button I can dedicate to camera (like the PPT on Raphael now opens cam app), flashing (winmo) and rooting seem about even for complexity, charging is very messed up (charges different when powered on vs powered off and charg-doo is required when first getting phone), oh...battery life is what you expect from a highpowered phone were people are still figuring out how to optimize.
Bads - MMS resize issue, set up is complicated for users new to Android, no phone when powered off to recharge!!!, not international capable
But overall I think I am falling for her. I was even looking at fancy accessories yesterday...which case to get and how to take care of her long term..
Well...Evoline1 is out the door and Evoline2 has moved in. Picked her up today. The battery button on 1 was extremely loose. The whole button sat flush with the top of the case and to turn on and off you were actually pushing the button below the level of the case. Later I got the Seidio Limited Edition case and it was worse then as you could not feel the button move at all...you just mashed until it worked. Now Evoline2 works like charm with the Limited Edition case.
After going back to Sprint store to compare with demos...mine was not right. So naturally the tech guy is all...'nuthing wrong', 'works fine', 'if didn't work at all you might have something'. To which I responded..."Is it like these?" I win! Anyway I was still in my 30 days even though I committed and had my AT&T phone number ported over a week ago.
First try I am in store...'I want to replace.' 'We don't have any, maybe Wed.' I showed up Wed to get number ported over and asked again about replacement...'We don't have any.' So I get all huffy about then I need my 30 days extended, put me on a list please, etc. Next they move to porting phone number over.....
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.........and a sales rep walks up to a phone at counter, calls someone and says...'Hey we just found another Evo. Can you come down?' WTF?!?! Anyway, didn't want to have that fight then...but I learned my lesson.
Today I call them in morning, 'Hey, did you get any Evo's in? I want one.' 'Oh, you are so lucky we just have four left, can you get down here?' 'Sure can, I need to replace this one.' (silence) HA HA....I WIN.
(Now I can understand the business approach, why give new evo to current customer when you could earn more money with new customer...but still...jack me around like that and I will play the game.)
So Evoline2 is having her first charge. I lost my free Golf game... It was limited time offer from Gameloft. Also three of my apps not showing in Market place...Astro, Google Map, Battery Widget. I thought these were saved to my log in...that is cruddy.
New hardware seems different too. I forget what I had before...but I have noticed right off the bat that the keyboard letters look crisper. They are sharper and lines are tight...I mean like no anti-aliasing almost. I like it. Still confused on what screen they are shipping with now. That slider test totally confuses me...because the rep and I tried it on like five phones...old demos and new models...they all react same way.
This is my journey with Evoline. Now we start to finalize my notes on rooting and see what is up there. I'll root and then I want to put the cpu controller on. Not sure what after that...would love to see CM6...but don't know anyone around me that would be going to it.
(OH...and I did get the batteries from eBay. The thread in accessories shows the label only for touch pro 2. Both the ones I just got the other day say HTC Touch Pro2EVO 4G on the label. Huh.)
Nice post. HTC is to blame for the fps cap. If your screen looks a bit better, you probably have the Epson screen. Kinda weird those apps are missing from the market. I know rooted phones have some issues with that but not stock ones. I'm getting close to #2 (not that #2) due to light leakage but I have the insurance so I'll wait til I'm feeling motivated to root again. Oh yeah, I think you've inspired me to name mine.
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Display touching problem of Atrix

In order to be more focusing on this display problem of Atrix, I started this new post. And I hope every user who encounters this problem can leave a reply here.
Summary of the problem:
Wherever you touch on the screen, if you touch on the exact same spot for more than around 20 seconds, the touching signal will be lost. You have to retouch onto the screen to have the response back. You can identify the problem through some apps called "multitouch test" as they can visualize your touch but this problem is not related to multitouch.
On daily use, this is not a problem because you can hardly keep touching on the same position for more than 20 seconds. However, it is very annoying while you are playing games with atrix. For example, minisquadron, gun bros and Guerrilla Bob. These games require you keep touching the same position so as to "FIRE" a gun. You will notice your gun stop firing after sometime even though you are still holding the fire button.
For fixing the problem, I have sent a few emails to motorola and made a call with motorola. Finally I just received an aceptable reply:
Dear Consumer
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola for help. We could not immediately answer your question, so we are sending it on to our expert team for help. Please be patient while our experts evaluate your question. They will respond to you soon.
Regards,
- Motorola Consumer Support
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I hope they really working on fixing the problem. However, if you do have the same problem, I really hope that you can also send Motorola a email reporting having this bug so as to give pressure on Motorola.
Thank you for your attention.
Billy
so this thread is just for people that have the bug to post? if so then I have it with my Bell atrix
This explains a problem I'm been having when browsing. I always use landscape mode and when reading lengthy pages apparently i'm exceeding 20 seconds at which point the touch screen loses my touch and i'm unable to scroll until I remove my finger for a few seconds and re-apply it.
I've confirmed that use case and your 'multi-touch test' app as well. I'm currently using OS version 1.57.
My Atrix ATT also has this problem. I am not sure if this is an issue. Many people report the same. MAD!!!
+1 here. Hope it's only a driver issue and can be corrected with an update.
y2whisper said:
so this thread is just for people that have the bug to post? if so then I have it with my Bell atrix
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YES!!!
tom2517 said:
+1 here. Hope it's only a driver issue and can be corrected with an update.
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I BELIEVE this is only a matter of firmware. It can be fixed by update but the first thing is to make MOTOROLA realize the problem and treat the problem seriously.
photobillyli said:
YES!!!
I BELIEVE this is only a matter of firmware. It can be fixed by update but the first thing is to make MOTOROLA realize the problem and treat the problem seriously.
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agree,this bug was made by them intentionally, its normalize your screen every 20-30 secs to prevents error touch like droplets water...lame implementation!!!
The problem now is to make MOTOROLA realize how serious is this problem and take immediate actions!!!!I ady posted few discussion on moto forum.
photobillyli said:
In order to be more focusing on this display problem of Atrix, I started this new post. And I hope every user who encounters this problem can leave a reply here.
Summary of the problem:
Wherever you touch on the screen, if you touch on the exact same spot for more than around 20 seconds, the touching signal will be lost. You have to retouch onto the screen to have the response back. You can identify the problem through some apps called "multitouch test" as they can visualize your touch but this problem is not related to multitouch.
On daily use, this is not a problem because you can hardly keep touching on the same position for more than 20 seconds. However, it is very annoying while you are playing games with atrix. For example, minisquadron, gun bros and Guerrilla Bob. These games require you keep touching the same position so as to "FIRE" a gun. You will notice your gun stop firing after sometime even though you are still holding the fire button.
For fixing the problem, I have sent a few emails to motorola and made a call with motorola. Finally I just received an aceptable reply:
I hope they really working on fixing the problem. However, if you do have the same problem, I really hope that you can also send Motorola a email reporting having this bug so as to give pressure on Motorola.
Thank you for your attention.
Billy
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Gosh, I know this is unrelated, but when I scroll on this phone, it ALWAYS clicks on something I don't want it to (for example, the settings menu).
It really pisses me off.
YES YES YES!! THIS IS ALL TRUE!!! Although I feel like it just looses all response input at random. Maybe it is timed. Whatever it is, it's making my games almost unplayable (spider-man in particular).
That and the frikin touch screen accuracy sucks donkey balls. I CLEARLY tap a link and it selects another random link on the screen. Also, typing sucks (not nearly up to par as the iPhones) due to the crappy accuracy.
Unfortunately Moto announced today that Atrix/Xoom sales have been very crappy. This makes it sound like we're never getting another update due to low revenue.
When will these stupid companies learn that they'll do better if they just didn't touch the damn OS? They'll never make Android their own so they should be putting that effort into the hardware.
here is that information? about the probleme I have this probleme too :S
just lodge the complain using the online support chat.hope they will get it fix soon
i dont want to test to see if I have this problem (cant handle much more disappointment).
However I will say .. I had my Atrix for 2 days now. The third app i downloaded was Draw(er), just a simple free touch sketching program. Drew some things, then decided to test the touch screen.
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I was not able to draw in that far left/far right area of the screen (with phone held in portrait mode). I guess its not a big deal in normal usage, but that bugs me. Some apps/games have controls in that area that one would need to grab. On Atrix it would be impossible to do so accurately, if at all.
Thankfully I'm still within my 30 day return period. 95% chance this thing is going back before the time is up. IF only to help remind Motorola YOU CANNOT TAKE AN OPEN-SOURCE OPERATING SYSTEM, LOCK IT DOWN, AND CALL IT YOUR OWN. (I'm soured by Motorola's locked bootloader, as I've come from a long/enjoyable history of HTC phones running WinMo)
I can draw at the edge??
here is a video of the glitch. sorry it takes a while this time for it to recognize. http://www.youtube.com/user/Graemegb1?feature=mhum#p/u/7/nce519w3Lak
Is this problem with all the atixs like 100% of them or is it random models that get it?
it's on all the atrix.
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here is a video of the glitch. sorry it takes a while this time for it to recognize. http://www.youtube.com/user/Graemegb1?feature=mhum#p/u/7/nce519w3Lak
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He is moving a lot on the scree so that the problem takes longer time to come out.
It takes much shorter time to recognize the problem it touching without moving.

Why I hate my Streak so much right now

OK , I used to love my streak, it was cool , unusual , it made a bold statement but over the last few months I've grow increasing frustrated with the device which has now reached boiling point. This include the following points:-
1)Damn Dell Streak PDMI connector, the connection on my phone is duff. Many a time I put the phone in my pocket and the connector has got debris stuck to it. The phone then refuses to connect up to my PC via USB I’ve used compressed air to blow the crap out of the port and this sometimes brings it back to life. However recently its given up the ghost, the port still charges up when connected but the phone does not recognized that its hooked up to the PC. My workaround has been to install dropbox to upload pics etc but there’s no way of me doing anything else. Also the pins on the connector are really flimsy.
I think that either the port or the cable pins are bent and thats why they are not joining up correctly.
2)Low on space message – Phone storage space is low. Somehow I’m using 1.6GB of phone space and only have about 140MB left? I’ve deleted all but the essential apps like whatsapp, google maps, swiftkey etc. Everything else has been moved to the SD card, all my videos and pics are on my SD card. I’ve even deleted all my sms messages but the bloody phone still complains about lack of space. WTF is taking up all the space, is there any way to find out, can I compress or remove the junk?
3)Battery life or the lack of it. Basically I cannot keep my phone running for a full day. I have to reduce the brightness so its barely readable outside, switch off gps and bluetooth. Throughout the day I change the battery like 3 times. One solution that I’ve tried and failed is getting a bulkier battery for ebay that also acts like a stand. The problem is that the hinges on the battery keep sliding off whenever I take the phone out my pocket. The stupid sensors detect that the phone cover has been removed and shut the phone off
4)Lastly I accidentally dropped my phone today, it only fell like 2 foot from the table onto the marble floor, the glass seems to be fine, but there’s inky liquid flowing across the top half of the screen, slowly black lines have appearing that run vertical down the phone.
I used to love my streak but its just become too much a pain in the arse to use. My options are to try and get the phone fix , which is not easy as I’ve working out of Saudi Arabia at the moment and will not be back in the UK for a few months. If the Samsung note was release today I would of jumped for it..
So is its worth the hassle to fix the phone or just bin it and buy something new? Any suggestions.
Don't forget the video recording quality it's awful even old Nokia phones have better quality
And slow in loading games comparing to other 1 GHz phones like Galaxy S series
Man, you have the same hatred I have for yours as I do for mine. I use to love this so much at one time it was the best device I have ever had. Now its more problems and headaches then anything. I can't stand the thing anymore and can not wait till the galaxy note becomes available. Lets just hope its out when I'm able to upgrade and they don't slap some ridiculous price tag on it. I can't imagine spending more then about 200-250 on it. I wish I could help you or had some words of encouragement but I feel the same way about this POS as you do dell dropped the ball on this one I find it funny that instead of trying to work with it and fix the dang thing they essentially tucked their tail and ran by just ending the life of it. I said it before I'll say it again I will never buy another dell product again
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I must be about the only one that loves mine.
2.2.2, pretty much straight from the box. I use mine for business, not games, video or music. Got mine because it has a huge screen, which I use for web and email.
Regarding the 'low on space message', have you tried to do a factory reset?
p51d007 said:
I must be about the only one that loves mine.
2.2.2, pretty much straight from the box. I use mine for business, not games, video or music. Got mine because it has a huge screen, which I use for web and email.
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You're not the only one.
OP, I understand the frustration regarding battery life, but to have the GPS chip running all the time is ridiculous unless you use external power. Most apps work fine with cell tower triangulation, such as Google Earth and Google Maps. If you actually navigate using Google Nav or a GPS app, then you turn on the GPS.
For the display, in direct sunlight no display will be bright, even if it's a transreflective one. However, I do find that in most situations, setting the brightness to automatic does wonders.
I can't comment on your PDMI port problems because I haven't encountered any. But for your other gripes I believe your expectations to be a bit unrealistic.
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2)Low on space message – Phone storage space is low. Somehow I’m using 1.6GB of phone space and only have about 140MB left? I’ve deleted all but the essential apps like whatsapp, google maps, swiftkey etc. Everything else has been moved to the SD card, all my videos and pics are on my SD card. I’ve even deleted all my sms messages but the bloody phone still complains about lack of space. WTF is taking up all the space, is there any way to find out, can I compress or remove the junk?
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You can try my app SD Maid it may free up some space for you.
Streak5 Android 2.2.2 KO Constant & random boots
Hello gentlemen,
I really wish I had your problems to contend with.
However, I seem to be in much much worse shape with my steak android 2.2.2:
After forays in Blackberrys & Iphones I decided to take the plunge into Android.
As a first droid device I got a Dell Streak 5 with android 2.2.2 from Ebay. Thought it would be a good little tablet with secondary uses as a phone.
However, after receiving it I quickly noticed the bugginess of the whole device. Without warning the streak will flash the navigator buttons 3 times & then power off. Sometimes it'll happen while browsing the net, other times by launching the pre-installed apps & in many occasions even when I just dial a number in the phone.
Now I've checked the battery/battery cover issues, but all is in order and the flashing buttons prior to reboot do no seem like electric contact related.
The phone is stock Dell issued with the factory installed android 2.2.2 & all apps are the standard pre-installed ones. I have reset to factory settings & recalibrated the screen without any joy.
Any ideas?
Would this be a brutal hardware issue, would switching back to previous os levels help?
Any hints/insights will be greatly appreciated.
Baseband version: GAUSB1A135100-EU
Build number: 15609
As additional info, this behaviour happens with or without SIM/SD Cards.
With or without wi-fi connection.
Does this strange instability I am encountering make you suspect hardware of software issues?
Would downgrading to previous levels OS levels help?
Will now try getting some logs out of the thing & post them hoping someone may help.
Really love this device's phone-tablet form & i'd be a shame to throw it out because of these issues.
However, if it turns oit it is some hardware issue I see a trash can in it's future.... unless some one can refurbish the thing at a decent price. Any thoughts?
Thank you
Beppe
You got your Streak used off ebay, meaning used, correct?
Try upgrading the ROM. Version 360 is available, and may solve your issues. Not because of bug fixes, but because the previous owner may have had a bugged flash when they put 351 on the device, or removed the wrong stuff when rooting it.
In short, for some reason the ROM is unstable, and installing a ROM can fix it.
i agree with most of your points... I am running a Dell Venue Pro with wp7 on it and I can't get over how much of a better experience I am getting off of that phone then android and my streaks... I have pretty much retired my streaks and only going off the dvp now.
I was able to easily load mango and I am really digging the phone with the keyboard. I don't think Android is primetime.. I will wait for jelly bean before I go Android again.
I had used the streak just for gps for a few days, and it still had issues... Using Garmin for WP7 now.
I only had necessary apps running on my streak, no games, no widgets, no updating backend programs. It was so frustrating...
Ohh and all that time waiting for a damn website load on the streak...wtf. Everything comes up right away on the dvp.. only issue it has is no flash.. but i don't really use flash on the phone anyway.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You got your Streak used off ebay, meaning used, correct?
Try upgrading the ROM. Version 360 is available, and may solve your issues. Not because of bug fixes, but because the previous owner may have had a bugged flash when they put 351 on the device, or removed the wrong stuff when rooting it.
In short, for some reason the ROM is unstable, and installing a ROM can fix it.
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Hi Strephon,
Tnx for the reply & tip.
Yup, got it used. The guy I got it from (on the cheap side so I guess I shouldn't complain too much...) claims he used for 6 months & then had Dell update it in july. According to his story they did & they found no hardware faults on it. He's supposed to send me some official docs to prove those claims.
Also says he's not techy & never messed around with the roms .... but the superuser app is on it so I'm a bit sceptical.
I'm in the process of documenting myslef so I can do a proper rom install, will try 351 then 360 as you suggest. Wanna get all the info right as this is my first dab into android - nice OS but gives u so much wrope to hang yourself with!
However, before flashing I was checking out the phone & services; I noticed some notifications about GPS & OVOO errors. I turned the services off & removed a few extra apps I found lying arround. After this step It's been going for an hour of use without the berserk ultra frequent boot cycles. Gonna dig a bit to figure out if one of those apps disagrees with this version of 2.2.2 that is on.
Will see what I can do & post the results here. Hope I can sort it out, such a sweet phone & fab 5 inch screen. If I have to surrender, gonna sell it to those phone recyclers on the net, get ye olde Bblackberry out of storage & patiently wait for the Samsung Note. Can't go back to sub 5 inchers after the brief experience with this Streak.
Bye & tnx again for the tips.
p51d007 said:
I must be about the only one that loves mine.
2.2.2, pretty much straight from the box. I use mine for business, not games, video or music. Got mine because it has a huge screen, which I use for web and email.
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If you used it for music, you'd hate it more than you now realize. It has one of the worst audio playback systems I've ever heard in ANY media device. The radio noise and signal noise is so terrible that it's almost beyond words.
Using it with headphones, it's about on par with my old iphone 3g.
But I dont use the bundled ones (i havnt ever tried them)
I use my Streak for music nearly everyday. Mostly over BT in my car and with the bundled headphones. I find both methods to work fine for my. I am no audiophile but I find the Streak's music performance fine.
The speaker on the back is pretty dissappointing as far as music and sound. But seriously who would use it like that and expect for it to be good/great.
It can put out a fair amount of power and at lower volumes it's pretty acceptable. It's a matter of being it's nearly physically impossible (for it's price range) to make great sound come out of a single speaker it's size.
Over bt it should be all digital until it finally hits the headset so it's merely the quality of the media player.
My point still stands about headphones, I have no complaints at all with my current earbuds. Though as mine are in-ear, normal ones might be a bit quiet.
For the back cover problem i have done this and now i can remove the card with the phone turn on.
Awwwwwwe! C'mone now... Dont go hate'n on the Dell Streak like that. Putting it in the pocket and getting lint in the port aint the Streaks fault... You gotta give it a little credit there. I get good pics and vid quality from my baby!
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I use my Streak for music nearly everyday. Mostly over BT in my car and with the bundled headphones. I find both methods to work fine for my. I am no audiophile but I find the Streak's music performance fine.
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Marvelous Marv, I do the same! Plug my Streak into aux in the car. Which mp3 app do u use? Anything better than PowerAmp?
My main problems have been the earpiece not working from new, intermittent then finally didn't work at all, has had to go to hungary for repair, and the battery cover seems to come off quite easily even when in my Otterbox Defender case.
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Marvelous Marv, I do the same! Plug my Streak into aux in the car. Which mp3 app do u use? Anything better than PowerAmp?
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Player Pro and PowerAmp are the two that I like best. I like the internal interface for Player pro better, but the lockscreen widget for PowerAmp is better. I am using Player Pro right now. Also, IMO, the response to the BT buttons seems to be better with Player Pro. They are very close overall.
Staying on topic - I hate my Streak because I don't have two of them.

IKWEAR IK8 MTK6577 Smart Phone Watch 1.54 Inch Android 4.0

This IK8 Watch Phone looks a lot like a ZGPAX or EC-309, but the camera points across the band instead of from the front and I think it has a faster processor.
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I haven't seen any other mention of it here on XDA.
Does anyone know if it is a rebrand of something else that I'm missing here?
It's fast. I've been able to use Google Hangouts on it, even with video. Zello works with no problems and even sounds good. I'm going to get a SIM for it and see how well the phone works.
Biggest drawbacks are lack of support for Google Voice and Voice Search. I've been able to workaround most of the other issues. This appears to be a common issue for this type of phone, and it's a big disappointment here. I'd love to find a way to get those messages. Has anyone solved this?
I got mine at http://www.geekbuying.com/item/IK8-...4-0-512MB-RAM-4G-ROM-5MP-GPS-WIFI-325392.html but you'll likely find a place that ships more quickly than Geekbuying.
Thanks!
DC
Thanks for the small review! Runkeeper or other runner's app work on it?
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This IK8 Watch Phone looks a lot like a ZGPAX or EC-309, but the camera points across the band instead of from the front and I think it has a faster processor.
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I haven't seen any other mention of it here on XDA.
Does anyone know if it is a rebrand of something else that I'm missing here?
It's fast. I've been able to use Google Hangouts on it, even with video. Zello works with no problems and even sounds good. I'm going to get a SIM for it and see how well the phone works.
Biggest drawbacks are lack of support for Google Voice and Voice Search. I've been able to workaround most of the other issues. This appears to be a common issue for this type of phone, and it's a big disappointment here. I'd love to find a way to get those messages. Has anyone solved this?
I got mine at http://www.geekbuying.com/item/IK8-...4-0-512MB-RAM-4G-ROM-5MP-GPS-WIFI-325392.html but you'll likely find a place that ships more quickly than Geekbuying.
Thanks!
DC
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I own a ZGPAX s5 and I see this watch on ebay as well.
For the processor they are the same :MTK6577 1GHz Dual Core
Both IK8 and s5 actually run the same system as well (android 4.0.4)
They look different just because of different default launchers.
I just root mine and use Launcher 8 instead.
The real difference should be the position of the camera.
Both camera are 2MP and 5MP interpolated.
s5 is better for selfies and Skype while IK8 is better for taking photo shots.
Both are 2G as well.
They even share the same battery!!! ZGPAX s5 got 500mAH and 700mAH and IK8 should be 700mAH
You can take a look of this
http://www.ikwear.com/wangzhanjianshe/1.html
It should be a rebrand product.
The best solution is to mix the two products' camera into one LOL
Then I can selfie and take normal shot!!! :laugh:
Cheers!
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dcrisis said:
This IK8 Watch Phone looks a lot like a ZGPAX or EC-309, but the camera points across the band instead of from the front and I think it has a faster processor.
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I haven't seen any other mention of it here on XDA.
Does anyone know if it is a rebrand of something else that I'm missing here?
It's fast. I've been able to use Google Hangouts on it, even with video. Zello works with no problems and even sounds good. I'm going to get a SIM for it and see how well the phone works.
Biggest drawbacks are lack of support for Google Voice and Voice Search. I've been able to workaround most of the other issues. This appears to be a common issue for this type of phone, and it's a big disappointment here. I'd love to find a way to get those messages. Has anyone solved this?
I got mine at http://www.geekbuying.com/item/IK8-...4-0-512MB-RAM-4G-ROM-5MP-GPS-WIFI-325392.html but you'll likely find a place that ships more quickly than Geekbuying.
Thanks!
DC
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For the Google Now, Just refer to the last two pages in [GUIDE] ZGPAX SmartWatch::1/22::Embedded more Videos/ OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51806814&postcount=764
dcrisis said:
This IK8 Watch Phone looks a lot like a ZGPAX or EC-309, but the camera points across the band instead of from the front and I think it has a faster processor.
​
I haven't seen any other mention of it here on XDA.
Does anyone know if it is a rebrand of something else that I'm missing here?
It's fast. I've been able to use Google Hangouts on it, even with video. Zello works with no problems and even sounds good. I'm going to get a SIM for it and see how well the phone works.
Biggest drawbacks are lack of support for Google Voice and Voice Search. I've been able to workaround most of the other issues. This appears to be a common issue for this type of phone, and it's a big disappointment here. I'd love to find a way to get those messages. Has anyone solved this?
I got mine at http://www.geekbuying.com/item/IK8-...4-0-512MB-RAM-4G-ROM-5MP-GPS-WIFI-325392.html but you'll likely find a place that ships more quickly than Geekbuying.
Thanks!
DC
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Got a couple of quick questions if you don't mind. I find some interest in this smartwatch
1 How do you like this smartwatch now?
2 I noticed on a youtube video that this smartwatch seems to have a sort of hidden menu button and back button located at the bottom of display. Am I correct?
Any thing else you would like to comment on would be appreciated.
Thanks
sny11 said:
Got a couple of quick questions if you don't mind. I find some interest in this smartwatch
1 How do you like this smartwatch now?
2 I noticed on a youtube video that this smartwatch seems to have a sort of hidden menu button and back button located at the bottom of display. Am I correct?
Any thing else you would like to comment on would be appreciated.
Thanks
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1. It is stand-alone watch phone, android v4.04 system, high definition touch screen, high resolution camera, you can use it smoothly and freely like a smartphone.
2. There is menu button and back button on the side of the watch, not at the bottom of display. And you can touch the screen to get what you want...
See more @ watchphonechina.com/watch-phone-china/
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2. There is menu button and back button on the side of the watch, not at the bottom of display. And you can touch the screen to get what you want...
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I've been using the IK8 for a few days now, and I discovered that there is definitely a menu- and back-button located directly underneath the display. In fact, they often get in the way while trying to touch lower areas of the screen .
Is this $120 the same one on AliExpress?
it gives notifications when connected to a phone?
It says 700mah battery. .. many days use do you get from it?
I got mine from Aliexpress It's super fast for me just two days to arrive to Hong Kong! I ordered another one earlier before from Chinavasion to Scotland and it takes me four days.
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IK8
simple1i said:
Is this $120 the same one on aliexpress.com/item/IK8-Smart-Watch-Phone-154-Inch-Screen-MTK6577-Dual-Core-50MP-Front-Camera-OGS/1851182462.html ?
it gives notifications when connected to a phone?
It says 700mah battery. .. many days use do you get from it?
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Looks like the same device to me. Just be cautious since this seller has only received feedback once. I'm not sure if this deal is legit, especially since the price is incredibly low. The IK8 usually sells for about $135 - $145.
Since it's a standalone Android device, you don't need any additional phone running a companion app in order to receive notifications. Just insert your SIM card (regular SIM) and you're ready to go. If you'd like to pair the IK8 to your smartphone and receive notifications over Bluetooth, maybe it is possible to install the Osmart app which is originally developed for the Omate Truesmart. I'm not sure if this will work, but it's worth giving it a try. XDA user 'KOAO' already had some success using this app with his ZGPAX S5, which is not that different from the IK8;
KOAO said:
I am successfully able to receive notifications from Emails, and texts. i haven't tried to reject a call yet. However, i used the Osmart Companion app from the omate truesmart. You download the companion app to you watch by loading the Ostore app on your watch(i might ....might link the APK file i extracted from the Truesmart OS)Then you go to the post at the bottom, join the group and then download the master app to your Andriod based smartphone. Then you pair them up and test. If successful, WIN if not then try again.
Osmart Master app:
plus.google.com/109641424466258907138/posts/8PrkrDdUsR4
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The original battery supplied with the IK8 is 500mAh in contrary to what is promised on most websites/shops, it's exactly the same type of battery as used in the ZGPAX S5, but I'm not sure if they are interchangeable since the plastic 'mounting clips' look a bit different. With WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS turned off and the screen set at the lowest brightness I get about 7 - 8 hours of battery life. But I haven't been using the device a lot yet, so I think battery life will probably increase.
I ordered my IK8 from Aurabuy and received it within 1,5 week (to the Netherlands with SingPost).
Edit: I came across several 'relabeled' versions of this watch lately. They are all exactly the same, but simply indicate different brand-names. For as far as I know, the IK8 Smartwatch is originally known as the TCW-006 and is being manufactured by Tecomax Electronics. This also explains the build-number visible in Android; TECO_V2.0_20140420.
haven't posted in xda for a while..let alone in the smartwatch section...but here we go. was in hong kong for a conference and decided to drop by the it shop. came across a host of smartwatches and just for fun picked up the ik8 for $90. haggled it down to $80 and figured i'd ditch it sooner or later. didn't play around with it until like 5 days later after i got back to melbourne. lo and behold, was actually quite surprised and impressed with it. my 2 cents worth:
display/interface
- not bad, quite responsive though i replaced the screen protector with a matte (anti-glare) one
- the small keyboard takes some getting used to but once you've used it you'll get around the limitations. i still make the occassional mistake but that's only when i'm using playstore
hardware
- camera is quite good though i have no plans of using it as i have my note 2
- speaker is surprisingly loud for such a small device
- one con i have is the lack of a 3.5mm jack. the built-in micro usb (for data transfer and charging) is also the plug for the earphones which comes with the watch. thus you can't really plug your own set of earphones...unless of course you use bluetooth
- quite light, watch strap is quite sturdy
- took in my 32gb microsd with no problem. pretty easy and straightforward in mounting the card
- same with the sim, but no plans on using the phone function
- don't think its "water proof" as some smart watches that claim to be (e.g. omate). but i'm not complaining.
internals
- i installed adw launcher which spiced up the homescreen (better than the default launcher). no hangs or whatever
- installed a bunch of widgets, just have to be careful as some are obviously built for larger screens. example, clokr (time widget) tends to not fit due to the length
- installed button savior to avoid using the hardware buttons. no need for root as i only need home, back and power off
- mx player works well, can actually watch a movie on it. no plans though as i have my note 2
- not planning on using this for music but poweramp works well on it. though there is sometimes a tendency for some icon labels to overlap given the small screen
gps
- i had to put a separate review on gps as i'm quite impressed with it
- installed navigon, apk had no problems loading. through wifi, the additional data and maps were installed
- also installed gps tester as well as other apps for cycling
verdict: gps signal takes around 1-2 minutes to get a good fix. the watch is able to lock on 4 satellites. accuracy is quite good but tends to be a little off when it's cloudy. the gps is not as spiffy as the one in my note but i'm not complaining. for a device this small, i was quite impressed how good the gps works
- strapped on the watch on my bike, used bikemate app. speed was quite accurate as well as keeping it locked on the satellites. didn't lose a signal as i cycled away
- had no issues with navigon. plotted home and the watch took me back to my house with no problems
haven't really tried out the full extent of the battery but without using wifi and gps, i was able to use it for 3 days before having the charge. with gps, battery went down to like 50% after riding for an hour or so. not bad in my opinion. overall, quite happy with it and i've now removed the speedo on my bike. no more wires and no more replacing batteries. this watch has now taken over the speed indicator duties for my cycling.
cheers
I got me one of these too, ordered from a Dutch guy who'd better pay back the import taxes caused by him drop-shipping it while pretending he had it in stock, or he'll be getting some negative publicity. Having to wait 3 weeks was bad enough.
I already had a ZGPAX S5 which I damaged, which is why I got this as a replacement. This is almost exactly the same hardware, as evidenced by the ability to restore a complete TWRP backup from the IK8 on my S5 with everything functional except the cell phone system. The IK8 is definitely the better of these two watch phones though: better build quality, no buzzing during calls, better cell signal reception, better clock & launcher system, no dead zone on the touchscreen. Definitely not waterproof with the gaping hole of the microUSB port, but it looks not as vulnerable to a few raindrops as the S5, whose screen doesn't even seem to be glued tight.
For the rest I concur with Robson, very good loudspeaker, the GPS is indeed impressively good and seems better than on the S5, at the condition that one does the usual dance of enabling EPO etc.
Can't login to Google PlayStore
The problem is that the teeny tiny keyboard is just too hard to navigate and when I try to switch the keyboard from alpha to numeric I get an "Android Framework has stopped" error message and the Google setup/sign-in app crashes and reloads.. Arrrggghh..
I tried installing two different Bluetooth keyboards to get around this problem but when you link the keyboards and go into the settings it will say "Use as input device" great, but when you go into "Languages and Input" to set the default to the Bluetooth keyboard the Bluetooth keyboard is NOT shown as an option just the default AOSP keyboard.. Can one of you guys help?? You know what a PIA it is to return anything to China so I just may be stuck with this which sucks because I can't use any of my Google apps (e.g. Gmail) which is why I bought this thing in the first place!
Any and all replies are appreciated!
Chris R.
crodgers79 said:
The problem is that the teeny tiny keyboard is just too hard to navigate and when I try to switch the keyboard from alpha to numeric I get an "Android Framework has stopped" error message and the Google setup/sign-in app crashes and reloads.. Arrrggghh..
I tried installing two different Bluetooth keyboards to get around this problem but when you link the keyboards and go into the settings it will say "Use as input device" great, but when you go into "Languages and Input" to set the default to the Bluetooth keyboard the Bluetooth keyboard is NOT shown as an option just the default AOSP keyboard.. Can one of you guys help?? You know what a PIA it is to return anything to China so I just may be stuck with this which sucks because I can't use any of my Google apps (e.g. Gmail) which is why I bought this thing in the first place!
Any and all replies are appreciated!
Chris R.
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I have tried to get Bluetooth keyboards and mice to work with two different phones that use this same chipset and Android version. My conclusion is that it is impossible. The devices pair, but the phone does not react to them. It looks like a fundamental bug in this Android release. If anyone has more success, I would certainly want to hear about it.
Your best option would be to install a half-size keyboard like Slidy Press, that has much bigger keys. Of course, installing the official version would require logging into the Play store first Your only option is to download the APK and install it from the file manager. I have made a customized version of Slidy Press available for download. I would post the link here, but for some reason the forum forbids this, so you will have to Google for this exact phrase between quotes: "I recommend installing Slidy Press" and you'll find the download link.
Unfortunately Google Framework Services has stopped
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I have tried to get Bluetooth keyboards and mice to work with two different phones that use this same chipset and Android version. My conclusion is that it is impossible. The devices pair, but the phone does not react to them. It looks like a fundamental bug in this Android release. If anyone has more success, I would certainly want to hear about it.
Your best option would be to install a half-size keyboard like Slidy Press, that has much bigger keys. Of course, installing the official version would require logging into the Play store first Your only option is to download the APK and install it from the file manager. I have made a customized version of Slidy Press available for download. I would post the link here, but for some reason the forum forbids this, so you will have to Google for this exact phrase between quotes: "I recommend installing Slidy Press" and you'll find the download link.
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Thanks!!! I installed Slidy but I'm now finding that if I touch any key that appears in the lower left corner I get a "Unfortunately Google Framework Services has stopped" error and the app crashes. Any ideas???
Thanks again!!!
Chris R.
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Thanks!!! I installed Slidy but I'm now finding that if I touch any key that appears in the lower left corner I get a "Unfortunately Google Framework Services has stopped" error and the app crashes. Any ideas???
Thanks again!!!
Chris R.
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So, regardless of the keyboard you're using, it always crashes when you touch the lower left key? That is extremely weird. Do you also get strange things when you touch that location without keyboard? Maybe your screen is defective and you'll have to send it back anyhow…
i concur with lex, i've never had this problem despite installing multiple apps on the watch. in your posts you mentioned that the error message first came up when you tried switching from alpha to numeric. and again the message comes up when you touched a key in the lower left. coincidentally, both areas you touched are on the lower left portion of the screen. there might be something wrong with your device/screen. unless of course another app is somehow causing this issue? though somewhat related, i once installed usb toggle in my note 2. though rooted, it seems that my note didn't like the app and frequently crashed. i had to fix it up it to the point of going to the bootloader to wipe out the cache. in any case, uninstalled it and now my note functions well. the same could be for your watch. again, unless of course there's something wrong with your screen/device...in which case you should have the watch replaced.
at first in setting up my wifi connection, playstore id/password, etc..it was quite a burden. though the keyboard is small, you'll eventually get the hang of it. i still get the occassional mistake of pressing the wrong letter. but i rarely do this anymore since the watch has been set up to what i need it to do (which is mostly for gps).
the one thing i'm looking around for is trying to either deactivate or change the watch face. i noticed that this can be done for the sony smartwatch...i'm still trying to find a way for the ik8. no luck at the moment though...
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Guys,
Thanks.. I've done a Factory Reset and the problem persists. I think the digitizer is faulty in that one spot so I'm sending mine back for another.. Will let you know if the next one acts up! Thanks for all of the replies!
Chris R.
IK8 Review
I wrote a review about the IK8 (I think I should be allowed to post links by now). Because I already had a ZGPAX S5 and the IK8 is very similar, the review mostly focuses on the differences between the two. The general conclusion however is that the IK8 is noticeably better in most aspects.
The review also contains a list of tweaks and hacks, and custom versions of the clock screensaver and launcher. Enjoy!
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I wrote a review about the IK8 (I think I should be allowed to post links by now). Because I already had a ZGPAX S5 and the IK8 is very similar, the review mostly focuses on the differences between the two. The general conclusion however is that the IK8 is noticeably better in most aspects.
The review also contains a list of tweaks and hacks, and custom versions of the clock screensaver and launcher. Enjoy!
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hey lex
thanks for sending that link to your review. I rooted the phone to change the watch face lock screen. I think somewhere along the line I sort of did something wrong because now the lock screen watch won't come up....which is a good thing! what I did was installed ADW Launcher and used a live wallpaper for a nice watch face. I kept the home screen free of any widgets. Swiping to the right then brings up a whole bunch of short cuts and widgets which I use.
cheers
crodgers79 said:
Guys,
Thanks.. I've done a Factory Reset and the problem persists. I think the digitizer is faulty in that one spot so I'm sending mine back for another.. Will let you know if the next one acts up! Thanks for all of the replies!
Chris R.
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have you tried change the launcher and see if that spot keep faulty, my motoactv had a faulty spot on screen related to massive battery discharge, factory reset didnt work, but the problem was zeam i changed to adw, smooth as silk, i think it woth a shot

[Review] ZGPAX S28 Review!

Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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Let's get down to business! What is it? Well, it looks an awful lot like a Gear 2, but it doesn't run android. However, that's not a bad thing, when you consider its $50 price tag from http://www.gearbest.com, where mine came from. It shipped in a generic "smartwatch" box, as shown in the unboxing video below:
Specs:
- CPU: MTK6260 360MHz
- 1.54 inch Touch Screen 240x240
- MicroSIM slot
- MicroSD slot
- Bluetooth 3.0
- 450mAh Battery 3.7V Li-ion (Reported: 72 Hrs Standby, 6 Hrs Talk, 8 Hrs Music)
- Micro USB port
- Size 58x39x12.5mm
- Weight 55g
- Accelerometer
- Vibration
- Microphone
- Speaker
- MicroUSB Earphones Included
Features:
- Pedometer
- Anti-Lost Alert (both for connected phone and watch)
- QWERTY keyboard with both T9 and handwriting prediction
- MP3 Player
- Sleep Monitor
- SMS
- Phonebook
- Music Player
- Remote Camera
- FM Radio
- Calendar
- Ringtones
- Multiple Language Support
You can either watch the video (I'm not a thespian or read the review right here. I decided to wear it for around 5 days prior to writing this, to get a feel for how I'd use it in the real world and how it stacks up to the competition that I have at my disposal. The watch is surprisingly comfortable, as well as stylish. It's very similar in design to the Gear 2, which I enjoy. For reference, I very much dislike wearing my Omate TrueSmart because it is so uncomfortable, but sometimes forget that the S28 is even on my wrist. I plugged it into the wall to let it charge for a little while, with the included microUSB charger, and then connected it to my HTC Desire 610 via bluetooth. I then downloaded the free companion app to my phone, which was also painless due to the QR download code being right on the watch. I basically scanned it with barcode scanner, then sideloaded the APK after it downloaded onto the phone.
Once up and running, you can select which apps from your phone you wish to display on the watch. I used everything from LINE Messenger to my iSmartAlarm home security system. Everything came through to the watch perfectly, and at the settings I selected. If you don't want an app to show up anymore, block it. Simple as that. I found myself blocking Facebook after receiving many many notifications at once and being distracted at work when I didn't need to be. Again, it was all very painless and I was pleasantly surprised. This is something that many Android based watches have problems with. They try to be both a watch and a phone, and can't be the best at either one. I've also had many issues with them not receiving notifications properly, or not receiving ALL notifications that you want to receive, which was not at all the case with the S28.
The watch itself is hard plastic with a metal faceplate and capacitive touch screen that's very responsive to touch, despite what my clumsiness in the video may lead you to believe . I LOVE that it's capacitive for only $50. I was actually expecting much less than I got for my money, to be honest. The screen is bright and relatively easy to read outside. It's not the greatest in direct sunlight, but to be honest, I've yet to find one that is. The only things I noticed myself really wishing for were a shake-to-wake feature of some kind, so I didn't have to press the button every time I wanted to see the time, and a way to remove the analog clock, or at least change it. I much prefer digital myself.
However, again, for the price, you simply can't beat it. My friends were in awe as I showed them the differences between this watch and my usual daily drivers, and I may have even convinced a few of them to give it a try. The watch has 2 functions in particular that I'd not used before, the remote camera and the "anti-lost" function. The first lets you use your watch to actually control the camera on your phone. You can see the viewfinder through the watch and walk around the room to take a picture. Not going to lie, I took a few full body selfies, and no, you can't see them. It worked well, and if you weren't taking a picture, it was also neat just watching the phone's viewfinder through the watch, like a remote security camera. The other feature was called "anti-lost", but is essentially a "find my watch, find my phone" feature, that will let you find the other if you have one of the two.
It has many features you'd find in a typical feature phone, such as SMS, phonebook, calendar, mp3 and mp4 player capability, and an FM radio. The pedometer works well, but you have to physically start it before walking, similar to most fitness apps you'd find on your phone. Again, I was spoiled with my MotoACTV's always-on pedometer. It has a sleep monitor, but I've yet to play with it. Soon, friends, soon. The on-screen keyboard is small, but works well and has many options including predictive text (T9) and handwriting recognition.
I did have one issue with the watch or the phone disconnecting and reconnecting with my bluetooth every so often, but in all honesty, I'm blaming that on the phone more than the watch. It was a cheap phone after all. I will be doing some more testing on that part when I replace the power button on my GS3.
3 things this watch has, that everyone else making watches out there needs to take note on: Built-in microphone, built-in speaker, and vibration function. It's literally a mini phone on your wrist, with decent battery life and talk time. Color me impressed.
If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!
ClearD said:
Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!
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Thanks for the review. There's a review for it already by st7ler, but its good to get a second look, how many days battery are getting from it? Its similar to the U8 Pro, not sure which to buy.
I keep mine turned off at night, and I got 4 days before I recharged it. Not sure exactly how many it'd last though, because I never let it run completely down lol
Thanks. And your typical use for the 4 days was...?
Could you do me a favour and try bluetooth tethering please? [emoji106]
I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
Thanks for the review. Looks good smart watch. Its app connection is stable?
It was stable for the most part, and if it disconnected, it quickly reconnected all by itself. I think my phone was the unstable part.
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I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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Shame it can't do bluetooth tethering, it would have not needed a data plan.
http://vifocal.com/zgpax-s28-watch-...-1-54-inch-screen-smart-bluetooh-sync-fm.html $43 and $3 off if you like them on farsebook or google+
ClearD said:
I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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@ClearD - are there any functions to control the phone from the watch?
I don't believe so, it's sort of like a standalone watch phone that also reads notifications from your primary phone
It's possible to add new analog look? Or change shortcuts on descop?

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