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I have a Scuba Diving computer that I use via IrDA on the Dell Axim that my X1 has just been purchased to replace.
Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to use an external USB IrDA dongle with the X1. I've only seen Windows XP/Vista drivers listed against these dongles.
What would be involved in developing a driver?
This might be tricky, as I read somewhere on the forum that the USB port is not powered, and therefore connecting dongles (including e.g. USB drives) is difficult.
The last I saw was that it might have been possible to connect the X1 to a powered port adapter, into which USB dongles were attached.
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
Calvin H said:
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
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Sounds like a useful suggestion. Could you point me to the type of device you mention.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
Rudegar said:
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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You're right on this one. It's not possible to connect USB devices to the X1 because there's no host. Even with a seperate power source, the X1 will not recognize it. Look at it this way, whenever you connect the X1 through USB, it'll act as a slave, waiting for input. Dongles need input themselves, so both devices will keep waiting for each other forever... It's like a bad fairytale!
Angelusz said:
... It's like a bad fairytale!
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This this the sort of device that might enable Price Charming (the new name for my X1) to get together with Cinderella (the new name for my lonely, but very beautiful Dive computer)?
Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)
well the wired headset has a microphone on it for calls, so at the very least you could plug in a USB microphone
i'm no hardware dev though, so i could be wrong!
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Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)
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Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
jashsu said:
Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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Well.. if its just power, there are those USB hubs that you have to plug in AC power, I would think that would solve that issue there.
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Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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well, theoretically, could a non-phantom powered microphone work then? if you got a decent small mic, you'd be able to record live music and such on the phone with pretty good quality. might be impractical but it would be interesting to see if it could work!
Isn't the microphone plugged to a non-usb pin on the HTC connector, like the headphones ?
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Yes, it is.. See diagram here : http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
Not sure how the headphones are plugged in, but I would assume if someone has a miniusb device, Im sure debian would detect it in the reports. I cant rem the command I used in ubuntu to get info but would be interesting to see if something can be done.
It dawned on me... Anetshare turns the G1 into a Wifi peer to peer. So along with Bluetooth abilities. Which Who said that the Bluetooth couldnt be used to accept BT Keyboard/Mice or so? Same with Wifi, Using Wifi to maybe have a app on your PC use ITS controller, sending the data via Wifi (So the G1 is a server) and translating those into usable input commands? I mean I know I use that Joy2Key program in WinXP to map my joystick to keyboard/mice commands. Im sure something could work on the G1. Thoughts?
you mean like this?
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you mean like this?
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Well id say thats a start. Seems like nothing new has been up with it tho? Cause even if a BT Keyboard worked.. That would be a step in the right direction, hell could even play games a lil easier too.
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
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Dave
dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
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Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...
Let us know how it goes.
Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.
If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.
I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.
This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php
Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?
I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.
With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.
Guys can you use the screen of the nexus for the pc as an external monitor, Not any VNC, splahtop or anything like that I mean natively as an LCD monitor, can you like hot wire the panel to a dvi or hdmi port?
Simple answer: no. Android devices are not made to act as slaves, only masters. What I mean is that you cannot directly connect things to them and use their hardware to extend another device.
For example, you can stream audio via Bluetooth from an Android device to a computer's speakers, but you cannot stream audio from a computer to an Android device's speakers. You can output video from an Android via mini-HDMI to an external source, but you cannot input video from an external source to Android and capture it. You have to use 3rd party software to get around these limitations, such as using Splashtop like you mentioned.
Andy the Android likes to host parties, not be the guests at them.
With the kernel source available, and some "heavy" hacking, you might be able to do something.
Also depending on how the screen is attached to the motherboard, you may be able to directly solder it to a traditional connection like DVI or something.
But there doesn't seem to be an "easy" way to do so sadly :/
I think Removing the panel from the board and attaching it to a little board that converts the signal into dvi and also powers the panel would be possible
Sv: Use Screen as Monitor for PC?
Use Air Display.
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Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !
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Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !
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Nope. It says it's for Android 4.1+
The NST runs 2.1
Too bad .
Thanks.
Of course the new Nook Glow Plus would probably work, it's 4.4.2
It's a quicker display than the old Nook and at 300 DPI, sharper too.
Also, the light is pretty good.
That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?
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That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?
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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...
Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.
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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...
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Thanks a lot for your time/test !
Renate NST said:
Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.
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I already tried tablets in my car but same problem with any phone : the sun .
I have a cab, so I'm looking for a screen which can be used if there is a lot of light ! (and I also like to play with new things ...)
It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?
Renate NST said:
It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?
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Honestly I don't know !
stadros83 said:
Honestly I don't know !
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Well, what do you plug it into?
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Well, what do you plug it into?
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Ah sorry I did not understand your question.
For this you need to plug a smartphone (android 5 at least).
It transforms the tablet in an Android Auto display (like a radio).
But if you have technicals questions about the app you should see with the developper, I'm only a single user .
Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.
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Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
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Yes, sorry I'm not clear !
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.
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You mean software on the Nook or in the headunit app ?