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First I want to thank every single person on here that has worked so hard to give us the multitude of choices in Roms, themes, and other hacks/fixes/tweaks. After updating to the newest version of Damageless 2.07.02 I have finally reached my stopping point (believe me I have said it more than 10 other times before today). With all the help of everyone on here I feel like a minor expert for my Hero, but I confess I have spent more time wiping, updating, and upgrading my phone than I have actually used it. I think this time I am the closest to a final version Sprint will release, so it's time to sit back and enjoy 2.1 pending the official release. Now I wonder what I will do once they release that version and I have the best Rom loaded up....guess I will go back to using the phone as is, and not trying to tweak it up every 2 or 3 hours.
I am sure like a lot of you my most visited web page on Firefox has been this forum. I admit I have woken up in the middle of the night and decided to log in and see what updates were out there, and then getting excited that Damageless, Flipzmode, Darchstar, Regaw_leinad, Avalaunchmods, Bikcmp, Modaco, Obelisk79 and others have released an update to one of the umpteenth Roms I have used. Again, thanks for everyone's efforts to give us a feeling of empowerment and not having to wait for Sprint to finally release 2.1 to us all!
Once i hit DC 2.05 - my flashes are just updates without a wipe. The only problem i hit is that I have to clear data for Rosie to get HTC widgets to come back, but all my apps and settings stay other than that.
This is the phone OS I am sticking with now, except for any incremental updates DC offers over the next week or two.
I hear you. I have been having fun flashing all these ROMs as well. I still have not figured out which one to stick with. All the folks baking these ROMs have been just great with all the updates.
That's the thing... with Gmail synchronization, you don't really have to stick with one particular ROM. I switch themes on a daily basis as well as ROM's, mainly because of testing new things.
I've now joined the theme-ing crowd and have created two new themes, my Android addiction took over a long time ago... the moment I gained root, I was done for!!
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That's the thing... with Gmail synchronization, you don't really have to stick with one particular ROM. I switch themes on a daily basis as well as ROM's, mainly because of testing new things.
I've now joined the theme-ing crowd and have created two new themes, my Android addiction took over a long time ago... the moment I gained root, I was done for!!
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right there with ya as soon as I rooted my phone I was hooked
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That's the thing... with Gmail synchronization, you don't really have to stick with one particular ROM. I switch themes on a daily basis as well as ROM's, mainly because of testing new things.
I've now joined the theme-ing crowd and have created two new themes, my Android addiction took over a long time ago... the moment I gained root, I was done for!!
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check out pseud's themes! post the link!
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check out pseud's themes! post the link!
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Hahaha. Alright, I shall!
If you'd like to see the theme's I've created, you can go HERE
Enjoy.
My update this morning has been largely neglected...
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My update this morning has been largely neglected...
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Screw you! JK. My thread died.
I like many others was hooked once I rooted. I came across this site on accident one night trying to find something else and the rest is history. Rooted, flashed, flashed, flashed. At first I just had Fresh 1.1, but once all the different 2.1's came out it was flash after flash. Here's as much as I can rememeber....
Fresh 1.1, DC.99, DC1(all the updates), Fresh2.0(and all the updates, DarchLegend,RegawMod and countless nandroid backups and restores.
I keep going back and forth between them. However, as long as I have an Android phone I will probably keep on flashing, but might limit it to once a week or so. Or is that still too much?
Damage is going to be offering "updates" to his rom's rather then having to flash the entire rom over again.
I suggested this yesterday when he was online, and he replied back on the thread he had the same idea and was going to be doing that.
It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
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It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
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Thank you posting this in the appropriate sub-forum. Here is a link in the Development sub-forum that explains all of the steps you need to root your Aria and prepare for loading custom ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737
As for a Froyo 2.2 ROM, you have CM 6.0/6.1 or Liberated FRxx Series. The Liberated FR series has the familiar HTC Sense interface that came on your Aria, but it is built on Froyo 2.2 instead 2.1.
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Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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you know what I did when i rooted my phone? I watched a youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjgg__m-KHc
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Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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Well 922jason, I think we are both going through exactly the same thing. I bought my Aria already rooted by the seller, and so I missed out on the learning curve of rooting and the terminologies involved. Think I'm more of a learn it on the job kinda fella and now I have to read all these texts.
Anyway, I just did the most daring thing today. I was running Liberated Aria R12 few hours ago and decided to get hands on. Downloaded FroYo Cyanogen, made nandroid backup (yes it's such a noob thing) & flashed (sounds fancy) Cyanogen. Anyways, I found out that it didn't suit me at all because:
1. I can't find my ALL my installed and backup-ed Apps anywhere
2. The familiar Market isn't anywhere in the phone
3. ALL my contact list are gone
4. I couldn't find any application that lets me access my SD card
5. There were wayyyyy too many options to customize in Cyanogen that gave me a headache instead
Now I realize that the pros would bombard me with comments and advice to sort out those problems, and they certainly would know better what to do than me. But as a new user to Android in the smartphone era, I'm just plain confused.
So I restored the nandroid backup and I'm back to the state before I installed Cyanogen
BUT, I'm not done yet. I'm now downloading Liberated Aria Froyo FR007 and want to try it out. Just don't chicken out at getting hands on with this cos I wanna get the most out of my Aria. So good luck!
The people at XDA are really helpful and you shouldn't worry about getting lost. Thanks guys!
Thanks for the link Zervic, I'll check that out.
I also appreciate the info Emigre, glad to know I'm not the only noob on XDA! =)
Root yet or still having problems?
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I'm waffling big-time!
I just read through the huge CM6 thread and seeing all those different problems posted gives me the willies. Going to read through the Sense/Froyo thread next and see if it looks any safer.
Dont worry so much with any of the roms here theres a very small chance to brick your phone. If you like how your phone looks now then Liberated is for you. If you want to customize everything them go with CM6.
Your choice but dont over think it lol.
if you need help just ask.
Hey man, I really appreciate that... I like the idea of all the customization possible with CM6, but all of the bug reports in that thread scare the crap out of me.
Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
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Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
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I would agree. Both CM 6.0.2.1 and CM 6.1 RC1 have been very reliable for me. As has been mentioned in other posts, most of the 'bugs' are about the nightly CM builds which are truly 'experimental'.
There are a few caveats with CM 6.x that you won't run into with the Liberated ROMs. Number 1 is read the wiki instructions completely. Once you flash the CM 6 you then need to flash the Google Apps so that you can access the Android Market. Number 2 is that the CM 6.x cannot read any contacts you have stored on your SIM card, so you should export them from the SIM and sync them with your GMAIL account.
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Tom
Okay, anything I need to set aside for doing this? Will the stock 2gb SD card work fine? How long does the process take, from start to finish?
i too am on the learning curve of all this rooting and whatnot. before i got the aria just this last wednesday i had the hero cdma with Alltel. which apparently was a B* to root and whatnot, cuz alltel isnt popular for devs ive noticed. when i first got the hero it was really new for alltel, and there were people working on the root process. I too get pretty nervous when i read stuff that i could do to my phone but could brick it.. but then i found out about the recovery mode and nandroid backups.. and OMFG they help a lot when you change a setting to be incompatible and get a boot loop. that was VERY often with that hero.
When i found out that i was getting the Aria cuz of the Alltel to AT&T transition, i kept an eye on the aria threads. day one of getting the aria, i plugged it right in running unrevoked and it went real quick, however thats just the root process of course. you havent installed any roms at this point, just got the privileges.
thats when you boot the recovery mode, do that nandroid backup and copy that backup somewhere safe on a computer or something.. then of course after that then you follow the steps for whichever rom you choose that you want.
IMO- i prefer the Liberated series, i had my chance with CM6.1 on the hero and enjoyed it a bit, but got tired of it and went to the Fresh Hero ROM. so since i knew i liked fresh hero, i knew i wanted liberated series, and most especially because its 2.2 FroYo with the HTC Sense UI (the "stock look" that was mentioned earlier)
and to answer your questions:
1. make sure you have the right usb drivers, youll know if you read the tutorials. the nandroid backup would be somewhere between 200-350MB so make sure you have enough free on the sd.
2.the stock 2gb will work just fine. in the future look into upgrading with a class 4 or class 6 speed MicroSD for even better performance.
3.once you get the drivers and software downloaded, the unrevoked root process takes probably around 5 minutes, if that.. it seemed really fast to me. the nandroid backup process will be fast if you dont have many apps installed now. should only take a few minutes as well. im guessing it takes me like 10-15 minutes sometimes cuz of apps and such, (sometimes i lose track of time). then after nandroid, the wipes are like instant, then flashing the rom, (like i said im bad with time sometimes) and i believe that takes about 5-10 minutes.
So it seems like after I root my phone, I should boot back into the stock ROM and download Titanium to back-up my apps and app data. Is this correct? I don't want to lose access to the apps I have purchased. Is that the best way?
the purchased apps you can obviously re-download, but yes. titanium backup is really useful for saving app/app-data. however, if needed, you can always nandroid the custom rom, restore your stock backup and pull info from that, then restore back to the custom.
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the purchased apps you can obviously re-download
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I have found quite a few threads around the internet about people losing their paid apps after rooting and flashing a custom ROM. Wasn't sure if there was some step I needed to take to ensure that I can retrieve my paid apps. There aren't many, I've only had my phone for a few weeks, but still... I'm cheap!
1. You can use titanium to back up your apps, though that isn't 100% necessary because, as previously mentioned, you can re-download your purchased apps.
2. Once you get the ROM installed (if it happens to be cyanogenmod) you need to also install gapps, which includes the market app. If you don't flash the gapps package, obviously, there will be no market.
3. Keep in mind that if you install CM, there will be no more HTC Sync.
4. If you follow the directions in 1, the video i posted for you or 2, any of the threads that explain this process the possibility for you to brick your phone is slim to none. -- as attn1 said "If you manage to brick your phone with this ROM from there, you are a dumb ass of unimaginable proportions, and I absolve myself of any responsibility whatsoever. "
There were a few other things I wanted to mention but I gotta run...
oh haha, well as far as im concerned, the purchases should be saved in the google database as long as you use the same gmail account to log in to the phone. ive been fine every time. even from goin thru the transition of different cell providers and phones. there is an app that im not sure if its allowed to be posted but ill message a link to you. its helped a lot lately even tho i just found it out like two days ago.
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Oh that's just great... reminds me of the teases for "News at 11 - The critical info you need that could save your life"... meanwhile, it's 4pm, what do I do until 11 to stay alive?!?!
1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
Glad you took the plunge and did it. Its definitely worth it isn't it. On on the latest bonsai rom and its awesome. The.main difference with this rom is you don't have to wipe all your data before you flash.the rom. It backs up all your data and restores it when you flash the rom so you don't have.to start from scratch
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1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
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Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
Welcome. This forum is very arousing.
Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
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Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
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Yeah, I did take the time to read through a few of his blogs. The Broken Heart one was gripping - will definitely make me think twice the next time I'm approached. The man definitely has a heart of gold & the patience of a saint. And he still takes the time to make great Rom's from what I hear. I should know here in the next hour or so - multiupload is slower than...
Guess I'm supposed to wait 5 minutes between posts...
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Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
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Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
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Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
Cheers
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I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
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Not sure why he did that either, but he's recently started using the stock swype we all paid for.
I have to second what you said. I came from a moment and the epic is a huge step up. I'm also running the syndicate rom as well and it sure is a speed demon. I am starting to get the hang of flashing now, though I probably go overboard when I do it. I usually end up flashing back to stock and then install cwm, then I go and flash the rom. This forum is outstanding too. The people here are (for the most part) intelligent and willing to help.
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Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
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Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
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No offense taken at all. I'm definitely a noob, so I'd rather have someone point out the obvious than assume I knew what I was doing.
Tried it a couple ways. 1st time, I was already rooted with CW3.0.0.6 with flashed syndicate. Wiped davlic, cache, and user 3 times. Tried to install the BYOR version & got the error. 2nd time, I used Odin to get back to EB13 rooted with CW3, no other custom rom. Then tried install BYOR version again (after wiping 3x) and got same error.
Decided to Odin back again, EB13, root, CW3; wipe 3x & then installed the midNIGHT Standard & it worked like a charm. I've had bad file downloads from multiupload before, so I'm gonna pin the blame there for now.
Been exploring midNight this afternoon & like it so far. Figured I should give it a few days before I decide which to go with.
Hello, I'm new to the whole Android thing, but I managed to recently root my Shift, and I can attest to the addictive properties of trying out ROMS/Kernels and all that good stuff. But I was worried about the idea of all this flashing I'm doing, as in the month or so I've been rooted I've flashed about four ROMS, messed up a few times, done a good 5 or 6 Nandroid restores/backups. I was just curios to know if this is excessive, or if this could damage my phone in any way. Thanks for any help guys!
P.S., I apologize if this is either in the wrong thread, or has already been answered >_< I'm still a young'un
As far as I know by flashing a lot you can damage the relationship with your wife or g/f due to spending a lot of time doing it.. besides that I believe that the only way you can damage your phone is due to a bad flash or flashing something that wasn't exactly supported by the Shift.
I recall this discussion back when I had a TouchPro2, I don't know if it applies to the Shift as well but I assume it does. From my understanding it was determined by people far more informed than me that flashing would eventually wear out the NAND memory...but it would take more flashes than even the most fiendish flashaholic could complete in the phones lifetime to do. This is what I know from discussions of a past phone, I'm not claiming anything about the lifetime of the phone and take no responsibility if you flash 5000 ROMS tonight and your NAND burns out. lol
I think the only way you can actually brick your phone from flashing is if you flash a bad ratio from like a gsm carrier to a cdma phone. Might be wrong. Cause even if you flash a bad rom as long as you have a working recovery you can always just reflash a new rom or ruu
I think his underlying question may have to do with the fact that every NAND flash memory module has a limited number of writes in its lifetime before it can't write another bit and tell whether or not the module is in the 0 or 1 state.
This is also why data2ext/apps2ext etc anything that constantly writes information to your SD card will also degrade the lifetime of the SD card.
Basically yes, in principle the number of times you write new data to the phone's built-in memory, you shave off another write from its life. But I don't think this is significant at all. Just as a reference, I'm sure there are people with the original G1 who have flashed a countless number of times over several years and still have it working.
^^This.
If it gives you peace of mind, think about how many times a ROM chef's phone gets flashed in its lifetime and usually if the phone dies it's on account of flashing something experimental that bricks the phone (wrong radio, etc.) I've never heard of someones NAND actually burning out. I flashed my TouchPro and TouchPro2 quite literally hundreds of times if that makes you feel better.
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As far as I know by flashing a lot you can damage the relationship with your wife or g/f due to spending a lot of time doing it.. besides that I believe that the only way you can damage your phone is due to a bad flash or flashing something that wasn't exactly supported by the Shift.
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THIS. Main danger.
^ Shift Faced
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THIS. Main danger.
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Agreed!
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Thanks for all the answers, you guys are great I really appreciate your help. You're replies have put my mind at ease seeing as my level of flashing honestly doesn't seem that excessive compared to that of a developer's.
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On my HeroC I changed roms two to three times a week. When CM6 came out, it was everyday (with full wipe) thanks to the nightlies. Then aosp started releasing his stuff in IRC yada yada.
My heroc made it well over a year of that torture. My wife did as well, barely.
Hey everyone,
I just put the cyanogenmod 7.0.2.1 on my HTC EVO 4G about a month ago. At first it was working fine, now it will just randomly restart not while I'm ever using it, but when it is sitting idle it will just restart at odd times. Has anyone else had this issue?
Everything else with the ROM is working awesome. Please Help.
No issues here, why don't you come up to date and flash the stable 7.0.3.1. Are you running any custom kernels by chance?
Here's the link to 7.0.3.1 just flash over your current rom and wipe dalvik-cache.
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/update-cm-7.0.3.1-Supersonic-signed.zip
Oh thanks, been really busy with work, and hadn't had time to check for any updates. I appreciate the help very much. DL'ing the new ROM now.
Upgrade to the newer version. Maybe it'll help? Definitely clear cache & dalvik when you update.
Evo 4G / CM 7.0.3.1 - Tiamat 4.0.2 SBC / XDA Premium
I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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I was running CM7 and went to a different Rom because of the reboots and been fine since. Tried all the usual things but phone would still freeze and reboot. Last one I was on was nightly 65. There are also a few threads around about the ROM bricking phones that it makes crash. As usual, nandroid if things don't work out.
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That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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Yeah I like the CM7 ROM, but just can't take the restarts. I am going to upgrade to the newest stable release and see if that fixes it. I would like to stay with the CM7 if at all possible.
Swype
after the update I notice swype is gone, one of the stock features I like, anyone know where to find that again?
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after the update I notice swype is gone, one of the stock features I like, anyone know where to find that again?
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Its probably still there you just have to open a text window long press the text box and hit "input method". Once you hit input method swipe will still be there if it was installed.
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Its probably still there you just have to open a text window long press the text box and hit "input method". Once you hit input method swipe will still be there if it was installed.
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no its gone and won't let me use titanium backup to reinstall it either
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no its gone and won't let me use titanium backup to reinstall it either
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Do you have the latest titanium backup version? If you can't get it going the swype apk is all over the place lol. *wink wink*
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dirkyd3rk said:
That's non sense, bricking phones say whaaaaat. I've been running cyanogen roms since the G1 and I've never heard of cm bricking phone's. Don't let this person talk you out of cm lol.
If cm bricks your phone you're (1) an idiot, or (2) shouldn't be rooting your phone in the first place.
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I have ran many different roms and CM7 was the ONLY one that caused my phone to reboot many times a day. A quick google search can show you threads about owners who had phones that bricked after running CM7. I never said it was gospel, I just dont need my phone rebooting multiple times during the day and it was way more often when I had wimax connected. CM is a great rom but its not the second coming of Android and not worth my phone rebooting during the day.
And I am running Smooth N Sexy V1.2 A sense ROM that looks like gingerbread.
Reboots
I've been through several ROMs now and the reboot problem appears to be not a ROM issue!
Here is the story. I had started with Baked Snack, very good, but I wanted more battery and to try CM and get away from Sprint messaging update nag.
CM worked great, I updated to 7, until the reboots started to happen during heavy use of Angry birds.
So I restored to early CM 6.x, and reboots continued off and on every few days, getting progressively worse.
So I tried Warm 2.2, same issues.
I went back to CM7 and still trouble.
I went to Fresh and It was fine for a week, and then on Friday, (I noticed that Friday was significant), reboots again.
So after a month of this the reboots are so bad that I can't use the phone. I called Sprint, de-provisioned the EVO, went back to my Palm, and then unrooted and went back to Stock ROM, but with no Cell access.
The phone is stable now. As long as it's off the Sprint Cellular network!!!
All of the reboots were related to cellular activity. Messages coming in, ads being updated, calls coming in, tower switching, roaming, or worse of all, no tower signals at all.
I will post back here if the phone remains stable without cellular. But all of the research I have done on the issue has pointed to cellular access. I am on wifi and all the apps and functions are working without issues so far. I am starting a dialog with HTC to see if there is a hardware problem.
The reboots also caused heat in the general area of the SD card...don't know what else is there but I do know the cellular antennas are on that side of the phone. Leaving the battery out all night, after an off state recharge would help stabilize the phone for a while, including cache wipes and factory resets.
But once the phone had been on for a while, or Friday morning would come, the reboots would continue.
I have been a computer nut for 30+years and I solve issues for a living. I strongly suspect the radio hardware or firmware as the culprit in this reboot issue. Every other account of this has had similar connections to the radio use.
Agreed 100% , I've been rooting since the day it first became available and never bricked my phone or got stuck in a boot loop by just flashing a "rom". If I get reboots its because I either flashed a kernel or a very unstable rom. It makes me laugh that you think "CM7" is causing the reboots. You say its CM7, I say it's idiots who probably don't follow directions.
dirkyd3rk said:
Agreed 100% , I've been rooting since the day it first became available and never bricked my phone or got stuck in a boot loop by just flashing a "rom". If I get reboots its because I either flashed a kernel or a very unstable rom. It makes me laugh that you think "CM7" is causing the reboots. You say its CM7, I say it's idiots who probably don't follow directions.
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Dude its all good, no need to call anyone an idots because we all can have different experiences. Any ROM thread in the dev section has reboot posts some have resolutions, some go to another rom and some seem to be hardware issues. Just like you have been rooting since day one like I have doesnt mean that CM7 is NOT causing my phone to reboot when no other ROM does not.
Your welcome for me allowing me brighten up your day by making you laugh, dont take your personal experiences and spread them across every user like its the ONLY experience.
misterzeno said:
Dude its all good, no need to call anyone an idots because we all can have different experiences. Any ROM thread in the dev section has reboot posts some have resolutions, some go to another rom and some seem to be hardware issues. Just like you have been rooting since day one like I have doesnt mean that CM7 is NOT causing my phone to reboot when no other ROM does not.
Your welcome for me allowing me brighten up your day by making you laugh, dont take your personal experiences and spread them across every user like its the ONLY experience.
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Im not saying cm roms make sense look like windows 95 lol, and I also don't think cm roms would keep me from jumping ship to a 4.3" iPhone 5 neither. I'm simply saying you're pointing the finger at cm being the cause I'm saying imo its 95% user error that's all. When do you hear of experienced users complain of cm (stable) causing reboots or boot loops? Don't worry ill wait....
dirkyd3rk said:
Im not saying cm roms make sense look like windows 95 lol, and I also don't think cm roms would keep me from jumping ship to a 4.3" iPhone 5 neither. I'm simply saying you're pointing the finger at cm being the cause I'm saying imo its 95% user error that's all. When do you hear of experienced users complain of cm (stable) causing reboots or boot loops? Don't worry ill wait....
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Once more sir, I spoke from my own personal experience. Plain and simple CM7 was causing my EVO to reboot, and especially when it was on wimax or multitasking. Even from a clean install without restoring anything except for logging into google on the device. I spent 4 days troubleshooting the issue including trying different versions and nightlies. Oh yea..and before you ask the temps were normal on the device no higher than any other time.
But yet again another know it all here on XDA. Dam i must be dumb as **** to been flashing my phone since the froyo root method was released and never had another ROM give me that type of issue. The ROM is not worth me going back to the stock RUU and swapping hardware to since that seemed to be the the last variable after my troubleshooting. Not a big ****ing deal...my phone didnt agree with CM7 like I have seen a small number of other users out there. You dont see me around ROM threads always *****ing and moaning about issues when resolutions or known issues are posted on the first page or doing any other nonsense that I will guess others on here are doing that you may be referring to.
Obvious you are one of those XDA "experienced pros" that are quick think someone has no idea what they are doing with their phone. Post count doesnt mean everything bro.
misterzeno said:
Once more sir, I spoke from my own personal experience. Plain and simple CM7 was causing my EVO to reboot, and especially when it was on wimax or multitasking. Even from a clean install without restoring anything except for logging into google on the device. I spent 4 days troubleshooting the issue including trying different versions and nightlies. Oh yea..and before you ask the temps were normal on the device no higher than any other time.
But yet again another know it all here on XDA. Dam i must be dumb as **** to been flashing my phone since the froyo root method was released and never had another ROM give me that type of issue. The ROM is not worth me going back to the stock RUU and swapping hardware to since that seemed to be the the last variable after my troubleshooting. Not a big ****ing deal...my phone didnt agree with CM7 like I have seen a small number of other users out there. You dont see me around ROM threads always *****ing and moaning about issues when resolutions or known issues are posted on the first page or doing any other nonsense that I will guess others on here are doing that you may be referring to.
Obvious you are one of those XDA "experienced pros" that are quick think someone has no idea what they are doing with their phone. Post count doesnt mean everything bro.
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You've been flashing since froyo I've been flashing since 1.5 G1 hmmmmm let me think. I will say this though
dirkyd3rk said:
You've been flashing since froyo I've been flashing since 1.5 G1 hmmmmm let me think. I will say this though
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You win, you obviously have the bigger nerd e peen. I should go back to a flip phone. *Bowing to phone gawd*
You wouldn't be as much as an ass if you happen to suggest ONE resolution to the rebooting.