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SERIOUSLY, yes or no, can the Hero tether?

so several seaches later and I am in a deeper hole than when I began. I've had the Mogul for a couple years now and it's time to upgrade, but I haven't really kept up on my mobile game and now am considering the Hero, but I can't get a definitive answer to whether tethering is available.
Sprint's sales dept. told me 1. I can't tether with my current plan. 2. no Sprint phone can tether...."can I be transferred to technical dept. please." So his response was YES, the HTC Hero might be able to tether, but NO, no Sprint plan covers tethering.
wow.
so here I am, asking you guys, can I:
1. tether with a Hero?
2. is it covered by an unlimited data plan?

In a nut shell, if you want to tether, you'll have to do some modifications to the hero to get it done, or pay for the app that gets the job done.
As far as tethering plans, yeah we're phasing out the tethering plans. The idea behind that is to move people into buying aircards and what not.
So lets recap; technically yes it can tether, but sprint is phasing out phone as modem.
Does that help?

Yes you can tether. You just need to root your hero which you can do easily using the fresh ore kitchen look in the stickys posted for roms. Also the fresh modaco ttg or gbhil rim they all have wireless tether built in

Seriously, yes, seriously.

Well of course Sprint will tell you you can't. But you can... either wirelessly or wired

Several searches later?
Hell, like 6 threads below this is a 3 page long thread full of ppeople saying ways you can tether.

The Hero for Sprint supports tethering out of the box, kinda. Install HTC Sync from the memory card, this comes with the tether drivers you need. If you go to sprint.com/download you will see that, "HTC Sync™ lets you synchronize Outlook and Windows Address Book (Outlook Express), contacts and calendar events on your PC with your phone. It also lets you install third-party Android applications on the phone, and the Mobile Network sharing function as well." Install HTC Sync, after install with phone plugged into USB via computer, go to Menu>Settings>Wireless Controls, all the way down to the bottom is a new box to check, Mobile network sharing. Check it. This will create a new device on your computer, which you probably will get an error with install due to lack of drivers. Go to Device Manager, it's something called Android Phone I believe, install new drivers, pick location for drivers, in the folder HTC Sync there is another folder called HTC Drivers. Guess what's there? You got it. From then on, all you have to do is plug in your phone via USB and check mobile network sharing.

abcdfv said:
Several searches later?
Hell, like 6 threads below this is a 3 page long thread full of ppeople saying ways you can tether.
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Just for ****s and giggles I put tether in the search box for this forum. It spit back 82 different threads. And that was only one search, not several...maybe I'm just special.

SERIOUSLY ppl should hit the search and stop wasting ppls time

Wait. Wait. Wait. Isn't tethering a game you play with a ball?

keeneraver said:
The Hero for Sprint supports tethering out of the box, kinda. Install HTC Sync from the memory card, this comes with the tether drivers you need. If you go to sprint.com/download you will see that, "HTC Sync™ lets you synchronize Outlook and Windows Address Book (Outlook Express), contacts and calendar events on your PC with your phone. It also lets you install third-party Android applications on the phone, and the Mobile Network sharing function as well." Install HTC Sync, after install with phone plugged into USB via computer, go to Menu>Settings>Wireless Controls, all the way down to the bottom is a new box to check, Mobile network sharing. Check it. This will create a new device on your computer, which you probably will get an error with install due to lack of drivers. Go to Device Manager, it's something called Android Phone I believe, install new drivers, pick location for drivers, in the folder HTC Sync there is another folder called HTC Drivers. Guess what's there? You got it. From then on, all you have to do is plug in your phone via USB and check mobile network sharing.
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If this works for you, I'm pretty sure you're the only one (with the exception of those using the "Race" condition to enable it)
Sprint disabled tethering this way.
There are three ways in which a user can accomplish tethering, none of which are officially supported by sprint.
1. Wired - Do as you described and use the "race" workaround. This requires you to disable the mobile network, then reenable both mobile network and mobile network sharing fast enough to trick the system... Requires absolutely no modification from the stock form, just patience because it often/usually requires multiple tries to get it to work.
2. PDANet - Download the App and go for it. A good wired solution, but comes with a 1 time cost of $30 to buy the App.
3. Wireless tether for Root Users - requires rooting and only works via wifi, turning your phone into an ad-hoc wireless connection. This is the most common solution, but some people have issues due to it being an ad-hoc connection, and many companies block connections to ad-hoc networks.. So if you have a company issued laptop, it might not work for you.. Also not recommended if you don't have a way to plug your phone into an AC outlet, as it absolutely destroys your battery life.
Anyone disagree with this rundown? I think I covered the bases.

gomorrah said:
Just for ****s and giggles I put tether in the search box for this forum. It spit back 82 different threads. And that was only one search, not several...maybe I'm just special.
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OMG There's a search feature???!!! HAHA I hear ya man, I did the same thing and got the same results. LOL Some people need hand holding I guess.

badutahboy said:
If this works for you, I'm pretty sure you're the only one (with the exception of those using the "Race" condition to enable it)
Sprint disabled tethering this way.
There are three ways in which a user can accomplish tethering, none of which are officially supported by sprint.
1. Wired - Do as you described and use the "race" workaround. This requires you to disable the mobile network, then reenable both mobile network and mobile network sharing fast enough to trick the system... Requires absolutely no modification from the stock form, just patience because it often/usually requires multiple tries to get it to work.
2. PDANet - Download the App and go for it. A good wired solution, but comes with a 1 time cost of $30 to buy the App.
3. Wireless tether for Root Users - requires rooting and only works via wifi, turning your phone into an ad-hoc wireless connection. This is the most common solution, but some people have issues due to it being an ad-hoc connection, and many companies block connections to ad-hoc networks.. So if you have a company issued laptop, it might not work for you.. Also not recommended if you don't have a way to plug your phone into an AC outlet, as it absolutely destroys your battery life.
Anyone disagree with this rundown? I think I covered the bases.
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you could also connect with wireless tether via bluetooth Pan to avoid the AD-Hoc problem... its what im doing right now

Mobile network sharing works in the 2.1 ROM

abcdfv said:
Mobile network sharing works in the 2.1 ROM
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oh really? I havent tried out any of the 2.x roms yet...
is it any faster than wireless tether for root users?

I can let you know this evening

notasimpleway said:
Wait. Wait. Wait. Isn't tethering a game you play with a ball?
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Only if you're lucky and she's kinky...

abcdfv said:
Mobile network sharing works in the 2.1 ROM
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Works like with out having to screw around with the mobile network settings???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Kcarpenter said:
Works like with out having to screw around with the mobile network settings???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Yep. Just have to tap to enable.

abcdfv said:
Yep. Just have to tap to enable.
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You have just picked my new Daily Rom.

mobile hotspot

is this a froyo only feature? or will we be able to do this once we receive eclair? is the hardware even capable of this? my apologies if this has been previously discussed.

It's possible now, just root your phone and install Barnacle WiFi Tether (free from market). Go into settings>interfaces set LAN to "athwlan0" (without quotes), and you're all set.

I've tried this app.
It works great with my x10.
In fact i sending this message from my notebook which internet connection powered by my x10 thru wifi tether by Barnacle
Thanks for info.

Thanks!
Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk

speedymey said:
I've tried this app.
It works great with my x10.
In fact i sending this message from my notebook which internet connection powered by my x10 thru wifi tether by Barnacle
Thanks for info.
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Does your provider know you are tethering so he make you paid for this special feature ?

Vilam said:
Does your provider know you are tethering so he make you paid for this special feature ?
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Just don't tell them...
Just watch how much data you use, and don't overdo it, and they shouldn't get suspicious.

chris_knows said:
Just don't tell them...
Just watch how much data you use, and don't overdo it, and they shouldn't get suspicious.
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Imo the provider does not have anything to do with what i do with my data plan, the deal is what it is, i have 1ggb high speed and above that my provider will lower the speed. I can use twice the data but it will be slow
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i can't surf via barnacle. i've set the LAN settings to athwlan0 as stated by another post. and i can connect to the hotspot it creates. but i get no internet access on my computer. unable to browse anywhere.. do i need to set a DNS?

In semi related news if you're on Rogers the $30 6 gig data plan is back for a limited time. If you use network data like me it's well worth it
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i can't figure out why i can't get internet access from the connection ...

I need help, what did you do my phone says that my kernel does not support this i need help and i cant return my phone i bought it straight up from AT&T, oh my phone is rooted but cant install non market apps but i can use sideloadwonder machines any suggestions would be soooooo greatly apppreciated!

Remember to turn off wifi first.then click start button
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

how to "open ports" in android/g2?

So I've recently been trying to wirelessly tether my g2 to my xbox360 to play live but I constantly get an error back saying my "NAT type is strict".
I can play games anyways that way but it is very slow and laggy and annoying. From what I read up about that error, I need to enable a few ports. Found here: http://www.xboxliveaddicts.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=24450&st=0 and also a few other sources....so question is, is there any way possible to do this on the g2 in place of a router as said in the directions?
Please help, not being able to play live seamlessly is terrible.

I have no idea but I do know that trying to play live through your phone is a terrible idea. The latency on these networks is not what you want when playing online or are the the speeds consistent enough. Trust me when I say this. You are going to pony up and get a real broadband connection for that. If not the lag is going to be extremely unbearable for the most part. The hspa+ network isn't built for it yet. Now true 4g will but that down the road quite a bit.
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I agree with the last poster. Latency makes it completely not worth it. I don't know about opening the ports, but I know I used to be able to to use internet connection sharing on a laptop tethered to my windows mobile phone years ago to connect, but it was too slow to play anything. But if you're dead set on trying it, that would probably be your best bet. Tether the phone to a laptop via usb or wifi, then share the connection via ethernet.
I wish it was workable. I'm in the Navy and our computer network blocks many streaming sites so I use my phone and a laptop to watch netflix on slow duty nights. Would be great to be able to play Halo at work that way, but don't see it happening for a very long time.
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Dear OP,
You're the reason our data is throttled. Thanks bud.
-Conn

connnn said:
Dear OP,
You're the reason our data is throttled. Thanks bud.
-Conn
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Actually, anyone who has their data throttled would be their own reason.
With any type of internet connection, there will always be heavy users...
...at least as long as there is porn on the internet.

etjrowe said:
Actually, anyone who has their data throttled would be their own reason.
With any type of internet connection, there will always be heavy users...
...at least as long as there is porn on the internet.
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i second that. i love flash. stupid g1 could never handle it.

[Q] Can AT&T monitor tethering on a rooted phone?

So I tried the wireless tethering built into CM 6.1 this week and it's awesome! However, I noticed that my data widget added a 3rd line marked T (the other two are W(ifi) and C(ell)...) it still shows 0bytes next to it though, so obviously it knew that I had activated the tether feature since it added the T line to the data counters, but since it didn't count any of that data in my data usage tracking does that mean I'm okay and AT&T can't see it? I don't want to incur additional charges for tethering. It's cool, but not THAT cool!

No they can't track it.

Cool, thanks.

This Is cool. I been messing around wwith it a lot. I tether wifi to my Xbox via network adapter. I can join live download updates and Facebook. Even voice chat but it wont even try to join a mw2 map. Just loads and loads. Something with Nat u belive but no one here can fix it.
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911jason said:
So I tried the wireless tethering built into CM 6.1 this week and it's awesome! However, I noticed that my data widget added a 3rd line marked T (the other two are W(ifi) and C(ell)...) it still shows 0bytes next to it though, so obviously it knew that I had activated the tether feature since it added the T line to the data counters, but since it didn't count any of that data in my data usage tracking does that mean I'm okay and AT&T can't see it? I don't want to incur additional charges for tethering. It's cool, but not THAT cool!
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Just curious, what data widget are you using?

dough_boy said:
This Is cool. I been messing around wwith it a lot. I tether wifi to my Xbox via network adapter. I can join live download updates and Facebook. Even voice chat but it wont even try to join a mw2 map. Just loads and loads. Something with Nat u belive but no one here can fix it.
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Not really sure why this doesn't work. Are you joining a game or creating a game? I can see it not working if you're creating a game perhaps. By default, you can't even ping the phone's IP address which is a big issue if you're going to host anything (it's totally unreachable).
But, I have actually tethered my PC and played Left 4 Dead 2 without a hitch. All NAT does is route the client's IP to the hosts' IP (to the outside world). You shouldn't have to have the XBOX NAT'ed to join a game at all.. and if you do, well shame on Microsloth...
"If you are using a NAT or firewall, you will need to open (forward) two ports for incoming traffic if you are going to host games. If you are not going to host games, you may or may not need to open these ports, depending on how your NAT works. You will need to consult your NAT documentation for information for how to open (forward) ports."
We cannot forward ports at this time... it may be possible sometime with 3rd party software though. But like I said, you shouldn't have an issue just simply joining a game. Once a connection is established from your end, port forwarding is not an issue. Port forwarding is only for incoming traffic trying to establish a connection (for a server).

Ya I just try to join. Maybe it matters depending on edge or 3g? The reason I thought Nat was because I got message says Nat is not open and may make your experience not as good or what ever.
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kaschenberg said:
No they can't track it.
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Is there a way to verify this? 911jason says his widget isn't picking up data usage while tethered, but I just tried both tethering and wifi hot spot and using 3G Watchdog, it most definitely showed usage on both.

It uses your data it just don't show up to at&t as tethered. Just like using it on your phone
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Little help?
Okay, so I tried tethering and wifi hotspot for the first time today, just to check them out. Now when I connect to my computer and turn on USB storage, the drive doesn't show up. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
*EDIT* Restarting my computer did nothing, but restarting my phone seems to have fixed the problem. Weird.

armyengineer51 said:
Just curious, what data widget are you using?
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The one I was referring to was Data counter widget but I also use 3G Watchdog.

armyengineer51 said:
Okay, so I tried tethering and wifi hotspot for the first time today, just to check them out. Now when I connect to my computer and turn on USB storage, the drive doesn't show up. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
*EDIT* Restarting my computer did nothing, but restarting my phone seems to have fixed the problem. Weird.
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Yea I had the same issue...so i decided i'd try what used to work -- swiftp...but that didn't work either...then i just gave up. Then I was like..well **** I can just use dropbox...so did that for a while then plugged my into my computer to see if it was working again and sure enough it was LOL

Help tethering xbox

I have managed to connect to wifi tether, and the built in hotspot, and with barnacle. I opened the proper ports in barnacle, but always come up with strict NAT settings.
I then used wired and wireless to tether my Ubuntu desktop, and connected the Ethernet to the Xbox. Still strict. I then tried opening the ports with firestarter and now it connects to the network and internet but not Xbox live. Has anyone successfully got NAT open while tethering?
#AngelFace#

/b/rotherJudas said:
I have managed to connect to wifi tether, and the built in hotspot, and with barnacle. I opened the proper ports in barnacle, but always come up with strict NAT settings.
I then used wired and wireless to tether my Ubuntu desktop, and connected the Ethernet to the Xbox. Still strict. I then tried opening the ports with firestarter and now it connects to the network and internet but not Xbox live. Has anyone successfully got NAT open while tethering?
#AngelFace#
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If you are trying to tether with the intent of playing online gaming or streaming Netflix the Bandwidth isn't high enough to support it.

Streaming Netflix works perfectly fine. Full HD playback. The gaming is slightly lagged, but I think opening NAT might help.
#AngelFace#

/b/rotherJudas said:
Streaming Netflix works perfectly fine. Full HD playback. The gaming is slightly lagged, but I think opening NAT might help.
#AngelFace#
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Unfortunately, unless you can get t-mobile to forward the ports needed to your phones outside ip from the tower, its not gonna happen. The towers all have a couple of t1's that provide data to your phones. The ports would have to be forwarded on the routers at the towers, and thats just not gonna happen.

Damn, thanks option. My next question would be of this nature:
Why the hell does barnacle have port forwarding options if the networks control that?
#AngelFace#

/b/rotherJudas said:
Damn, thanks option. My next question would be of this nature:
Why the hell does barnacle have port forwarding options if the networks control that?
#AngelFace#
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Because you can use it to forward ports locally, but you need ports forwarded publically for xbox and such to work.

option94 said:
Because you can use it to forward ports locally, but you need ports forwarded publically for xbox and such to work.
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You're the man. I ****ing hate networking of any kind.
#AngelFace#

I hate it since it can be rather annoying, but its what I do.

I'm gonna try calling T-Mobile and see if they'll open the ports. Any suggestions on an excuse for having this done? I'd rather not advertise that I'm using their hotspot for free. Lol.
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/b/rotherJudas said:
I'm gonna try calling T-Mobile and see if they'll open the ports. Any suggestions on an excuse for having this done? I'd rather not advertise that I'm using their hotspot for free. Lol.
#AngelFace#
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LOL. Good luck with that. Its not gonna happen. Could pose a major security risk for them potentially. Well, not really witht he ports you need, but they wont see it that way.

They told me that there is no way for them to do it. They said if I buy the tethering plan it should fix that problem. I got the plan, and its still a no go. I then called back and asked another guy that said they can't give me any information about it. He told me the tethering plan is strictly for internet explorer or safari. Douche bags.
#AngelFace#

/b/rotherJudas said:
They told me that there is no way for them to do it. They said if I buy the tethering plan it should fix that problem. I got the plan, and its still a no go. I then called back and asked another guy that said they can't give me any information about it. He told me the tethering plan is strictly for internet explorer or safari. Douche bags.
#AngelFace#
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Welcome to the world of attempting to do more than what a provider claims they want to sell you. Before home routers were ubiquitous if you called your ISP that your service was down and dared answer "Yes" that you had a router support died right there. It was obviously a user equipment fault and they would investigate no further!
Understand that T-Mo and all comm providers are catering to the lowest common denominator "Joe User" with their service; it's what makes profit. Fringe use cases like yours don't. Case in point, Charter refused to help me at all even when I could prove an outage in their network simply because when asked "What OS are you using" I said "Linux" -- they tried to tell me the internet only functioned on MAC and Windows!
The point of all this is: you may be able to do what you're attempting with some network trickery if you have the time and energy to invest into Googling the knowledge. Just don't expect your provider to help you any, and they're not douches for it .

You shouldn't need any port forwarding at all. Port forwarding is to work through a firewall and your hot spot doesn't have one. You get straight internet access to it. Your game its most likely laggy due to poor latency or poor upload speeds. I've tried playing from xbox live on my hot spot too with about 3 MB down and 512 KB up on HPDA.
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