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Battery life?

Is it normal that I can barely last a day on a charge with this device?
My GSM devices could go at least 2 days without charging. I don't mind charging every night, but right now it would be dead before my day is over if I don't charge it at my desk too. That can't be right?

I ran bunch of test on this before i decided to keep it. One day I set it up without anything running. from 8am to 8am the next day the battery power was still 100%. Another test I did was playing audio. it went about 6 hours and I still had 20-30% battery remaining. it was loosing a about than 10%-15% per hour.
The problem is once you go on data mode it stays there and doesn't come out when it doesn't need it anymore and that drains the battery super fast. These type of programs:
-weather check
-Windows Live (for maps and searches)
-traffic
-e-mail (if you have autocheck on)
When you see the data mode (the two arrows that replace the tower icon) appeaing go in the comm manager and disable the data mode. That's obviously not a permanent solution but until figure out how to have the programs that use the data connection to return the radio to audio mode when they are done using the data mode, you can save some power.
I hope that helps.

The Mogul's battery life is definately very sensitive to the software you have running.
When I first got mine, it would barely last me 8 hours of light usage before getting the critical battery alert.
A week or two later, after a few charge/discharge cycles and a ton of configuration/software tweaks, my battery lasts all day, and is only down to 60-70 percent when I go to plug it in at night

Just to extend on what was already said, if you have outlook set up to sync automatically, set it to 5 minutes instead of "as they arrive." This made a big difference for me.
I use BatteryStatus to monitor my battery drain, and it drains at about 30-40 mA when the screen is off and when it is on and dim, around 85-100 mA or so when nothing is really active and I am at the today screen.

From my experience, the thing that affects battery life the most is the signal quality of the phone/data service. If I'm in a location where the signal is 0 or 1 bar, then the battery will drain to 20-30 percent in about 4 hours. With a strong signal, the battery only goes down to 50% for the full day.

caxiem said:
From my experience, the thing that affects battery life the most is the signal quality of the phone/data service. If I'm in a location where the signal is 0 or 1 bar, then the battery will drain to 20-30 percent in about 4 hours. With a strong signal, the battery only goes down to 50% for the full day.
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Bingo
It's not the PDA part that is draining it, it's the RF part.

TC1 said:
Bingo
It's not the PDA part that is draining it, it's the RF part.
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Right, so I've established that my phones lasts more than a day just fine if I'm in good service.
But is this "normal" for a CDMA phone to do? My old GSM phones could go into "searching..." for hours at a time and still have more than 50% at the end of the day. I know CDMA phones use a little more power then their GSM counterparts, but I didn't know it was THIS bad! Or is this just a bug in the system that can be fixed in the future? Being my first CDMA device, I can't tell yet what's normal or not.

GSM and CDMA RF transceivers manage power output differently. What's ironic, is that in theory CDMA handsets are suppose to manage battery power better than their GSM counterparts, sincd CDMA tranceivers continually vary the power output to match the cell tower coverage, while GSM tranceivers power a steady-state output.
Now that's in theory.... I've read numerous ancedotal articles that have compared sibling phones (same model, but one is GSM and one is CDMA) and the GSM for whatever reason performs better in terms of battery life. I know.... doesn't make sense. Two theories have been proposed by folks, one being the actual coverage for a particular area and the other that Qualcomm just basically did a poor implementation of the CDMA design in their chipsets (which are widely used by everyone).
Wish I had a better answer, but I don't have any hard evidence at the moment to say it's definitely this or that explains the difference.

There is also a configuration issue whereby data connections are not terminated after an application is done with it. Email automatic Send/Receive being one of them. Shuting down the data connection through HTC's Comm Manager doesn't solve it either. I installed this software that allows you to manually enable/disable data connections, mapped it to button 5 and have seen my battery life almost double. This of course defeats automatic email reception though.

I have changed my battery drain from 90% a day to just 10% a day by turning off bluetooth discovery! I can leave bluetooth on all day, but by turning off discovery, it seems to save a tremendous amount of power.

jaslo1 said:
I have changed my battery drain from 90% a day to just 10% a day by turning off bluetooth discovery! I can leave bluetooth on all day, but by turning off discovery, it seems to save a tremendous amount of power.
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How do you turn just 'Bluetooth Discovery' off and not Bluetooth? Registry?

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How do you turn just 'Bluetooth Discovery' off and not Bluetooth? Registry?
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start/settings/connections/bluetooth/mode/Make this device visible to other devices
This is a great thread. I always had the activesync to sync as items arrive. I bet this should help a lot. I'm going to change my weather options next. dont need constant weather updates all day long.

Average Battery Life on T-mobile Wing

I was just wondering what is the average time of battery life on your wing..mines is currently about 10 hours idle but while im using it that goes down to about 5 or 4 i just wanted to know what is the average before i call t-mobile and ask for a new battery.

A few of us here have been having problems with the battery actually. When I first got the phone, I left it clean and stock. I would do a lot of texting, make a couple phone calls, and play a few games here and there. From 7am to 1am, I would go from 100% to about 54% (18 hours of usage). Now, if I leave my phone idle for 2 hours, my battery drops down from 100% to 80%... I can't even go a full day without needing to charge the darn thing. 200 hour idle time my arse!
But personally, I don't think it's a problem with the battery... The phone is doing something in the background which is causing a massive battery drain. Right now, I'm testing my phone to see if I still suffer the same drain while in flight mode. I'll post the results HERE in about an hour from now.

The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.

BBM-Lee said:
The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.
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I noticed Bluetooth and WiFi taking more battery than GPRS

As long as I plug it in while I am at work to a USB cable, I don't seem to have any battery problems. I use GPRS and SMS constantly.

I spend the whole day on the phone ... between texting and I receive all my work email directly to my phone... so I'm on it various times during the hour... and it seems the battery drain is huge.
all I have done is turn the screen brightness down whenever I'm not using it, and have the dynamic overclocking on, so the processor goes down whenever its not in use ... but I still think the battery drain on the wing is ridiculous.

Well david, overclocking doesnt help
Im clocked at 247mhz, i can make it last about 24 hours using it here and there. calls about once a hour for 5 min or less, texting through the day, and occasional wifi use. at stock clock speeds, it lasted about a day and a half, but it all depends how much you use it

At 1st i thought the battery darin was rediculous as well but when u think about it when u use it the battery goes down about 8 times as fast( depensing on what ur actually doing w/ it.
Now i charge it at night and go to school with fully loaded battery 6AM, i text all the time and when i get home its around 85% 2:30PM, use it occasionally and at the end of the day after at least 3 hours of talk time its on around 30-20% i could last w/o charging it but i charge it overnight to full, with NORMAL use and not talking for about 4 hours per day so far its lasted 4 days for me. could have made it to 6 but i wanted to showoof my new phone to my friend
so battery life is not that bad just depends how much u use it, Also if ur listening to music just turn off the screen and thats a REAL battery saver. also press the power button when on the phone and etc.

Wing Battery Drain
I have improved my Wing battery drain by doing the following...
- Turn off the automatic weather update on the Today Plug-in
- Check my emails manually (do send receive when I am ready to read)
- Suspend device when not in use - need to use device lock app.
- Update ROM to PDA Viet v 14 (thanks to easy instructions from David)
With the new ROM and the device locked - even the accidental press of any of the face buttons (when phone is in pocket) turns the device back on - even though the screen remains locked (due the Device lock app). Is there any way to suspend the device completely so can only be turned on by hitting the power button only? I would still want to receive / answer calls etc. without having to hit the power button....

Go to settings, Lock ... and there is an option to lock all buttons except the power button when device is powered down.

I am trying to fix my sisters Wing (I have a Wizard). I have tried disabling background programs, as well as setting things to be more gentle on power usage, and still she loses battery like crazy. I know the Wizard had some battery drain issues with certain WM6 cooked roms, and a cab fix helped. Does anyone have a cab fix for the Wing? Also, reading in this forum section, it seems that the Wing doesn't always disable background programs. Would you suggest a third party task manager to "pick up the slack" or does it not matter, due to the nature of the winged beast?
I appreciate any suggestions. While I am new to the Herald, I am "old hat" on the Wizard, so I do have a general understanding of how the HTC devices work.
Thank you in advance.

I have read a lot of bad stuff about battery life with every rom except the OME t-mo. I had the PDA viet and battery life was terrible, With the stock rom it is at least 4x longer.

hello ive the same problem with the last 4 wings ive and ever since ive switch from the stock Tmo OS and upgraded to the TouchFlo OS, Ive noticed a huge differnce with the battery life even overclocked
If your will to taking the risk ide say go for it, i jus started messing around with rom and i got say its a big improvment from the original wing which i was ready to throw against a wall!!

I have Touch Flo on my Wing, and if I charge it to capacity I usually only need to do so it every other day so long as I don't play any NES games on it. I keep the wifi off if I'm not using it of course. I have it dynamically stepping the CPU in a range from 100mhz to 234mhz. It really seems to help extend the battery for me, while still giving it the tiny extra kick it needs to run nes and sms games.
My wife has the official wm6 rom on hers, but is also dynamically overclocked as mine is. She needs to charge hers nightly, BUT she also plays solitaire and bubble breaker daily.
Overall it's on par for battery life with my prior motorola phone, which I never used for anything but regular phone calls. With that in mind I'm not necessarily impressed, but am definitely content with it.

I've had HORRIBLE battery life and AWESOME battery life, all within the same week. lol
There was a problem I had at one time, where filesys.exe would take over all the CPU and kill my battery.
Here's what I do, though.
Dynamic overclocking/underclocking
Turn off GPRS when not in use
Disable Push Mail
Turn off WIFI and Bluetooth
Turn the screen brightness down
Turn off the screen altogether, even when on a call, unless you need to see what's on it
There's a few tweaks out there that deal with enabling the power saving features on L2TP and stuff...

First post here-
I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
Thanks

InfidelSerf said:
First post here-
I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
Thanks
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Today's lithium ion batteries do not develop this like older rechargable batteries. You can plug your phone in at any time without worrying about losing battery capacity!

Thank chris30_2001, good to know.
oh and it's ALWAYS lupus

I listen to Streaming Radio with my Wing at work all day. I get approximately 4 hours of listening time before I have to swap out with another fully charged battery.
I use PBar to shut off the screen while listening.

I'm running the touch rom without the actual touch. I can't remember which one it is. I spend at least an hour a day gaming (text twist, random solitaires) on it. I usually hit up the web a few times a day for 10 minutes a shot. I use it as an ebook reader. I send txts constantly. I talk about half an hour a day. All this leaves me with about 30% - 50% of my battery by day's end. Now, if I turn on bluetooth all day it will end up around 18%. Wifi is such an evil power hog I never turn it on, EDGE is fast enough for me. I charge my every night under my pillow (it's my alarm too). Battery life has been the same since I got it about 6 months ago.
Edited to add: I also do some dynamic underclocking for things that don't need a huge amount of power, like my budget program, etc.

Battery drain

Trying to figure out 1) cause of battery drain and 2) poor power mgmt.
I had a fully charged phone yesterday at 5pm, leaving work.
When I tried to turn it on this morning it was completely, completely drained.
I have 4min timeouts set on the phone for backlight off, and 5min for device off when on battery. I had WiFi tuned off, Bluetooth on.
I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
How come the battery drained to such an exent, it took 5 min on a charger before it would even power up, from a full reset and WM load.
My old XDA would hibernate at low battery percentage, and still have a reserve charge to keep the phone content/settings intact.
Any views, suggestions.
Peter

When I first got my x1 end of last year, I found I only got around 6 hours out of a battery.
Now I get about 36 hours of normal use out of one charge. Including 1 hour of gps each day/ half hour of wifi.
What worked for me was to, reduce back light time to 10 seconds when standalone. I also found S2U unlock drained the battery, so I now use the standard unlock.
Also, ensure that no auto updates (only manual) are done e.g SPB weather, insight RSS etc.
I have also changed my battery to a Mugen 1800 mAh. This seems to have increased my time by around 25% on average use.

S2U2 no longer drains my battery, one of the old versions did and so did the old version of AE Button but they are both good now, I get min of 2 days and max of about 5 depending on load of use... normal use is about 3... (internet for emails and dling rss feeds and some reading of forums 1 hour, reading books/texts about 4-5 hours and listening about 2hours plus calls and texts is a normal day for me...)
GPS does drain your battery pretty quick though...

pokdub said:
I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
Peter
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There is no poor power management in there.
It is all because of wayfinder. GPS is still active if you leave Wayfinder active all the time and it will drain the battery supoerfat.
Try closing Wayfinder and you will what I am talking about.

I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.

sms2000 said:
I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.
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I am running Home++ and its fairly decent as far as drain goes... I dont notice much more than when its not running...

Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.

pokdub said:
Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.
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I have already explained. It was the GPS application that drained the battery, nothing else.
Just as a test try leaving it for as few hours running again and you will see.

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I do have the same effect. but I do not use GPS or wifi at all.
Sometimes it put the phone down, screen disabled and fully charged. No application running.
Next morning the battery is dead.
It happens about once every two weeks without any sign why...
My solution: I bought a desktop charger which is able to charge a second battery and simply exchange it, when this happens again.
Not ideal - but right now we seem to have to life with it.

do you have an old version of S2U2 or AE Button plus on your phone? And I have also read that batti used to cause drain problems... this might be the case with yours(?) if you have none of these installed then I am of not much help...

If u use Push email or active sync, Google sync Hotmail sync any Email sync on arrivel option ur battery will only last 5hours cause the phone is using mobile web at all times and constantly sending and recieving, turn it off an ur phone will last over 19hours with out charge... EG i turned my email sync off at 10am an the batt level was 60% didnt charge it till next day 11am when the batt levels drop to 20%

Is your X1 fairly new?
I experienced exactly this issue about a week after I bought my X1. No apparent reason for it, but the battery just drained right out overnight.
Strangely, the same thing happend about a week after I bought a HTC Touch Pro.
In both instances it has happened only the one time. Since then things have been normal, or drains caused by known software issues (like the buggy version of S2U2).

As earlier suggested, I loaded the Wayfinder app, with its GPS active.
I tuned off the phone when the app was on screen.
Left it for 3 hours, and there was a noticeable drain of the battery.
Lets hope the new WM 6.5 improves Power Mgmt, and has a more elegant low power handling.

Do you have G-Alarm installed? My Battery gets drained very fast when I have this installed. I tried many different versions within the last few month, allways the same.

I experienced this last night for the first time with my X1. I left the X1 on the bedside table at 11:30 with 90% charge and was awakened by the battery low alarm at 6:30 am (not good).
The only thing that I noticed that was unusual was that my X1 had been connected to the PC with ActiveSync in the connected state. I shut down the PC and then unplugged the X1. In the morning after the battery low alarm I noticed that the phone thought it was still connected. I use SPB Phone Suite and it was still showing the Cradle profile. This would not change in the automatic mode so I had to reboot the phone. Everything has been fine since.
So ... I am wondering if ActiveSync can sometimes go crazy and drain the battery more quickly??

I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?

In my case I dont have G-Alarm installed.

Well my battery is not draining that seriously. it's ok i guess.
But maybe you should try what is suggested in the last post of this thread:
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/x1-problems-issues/2113-another-kind-battery-drain.html

Deep discharge my X1-battery just almost doubled my battery life in average

Seafal said:
I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?
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I have been using G-Alarm since the very moment I got my X1 and there is no noticeable battery drain. Lasts 3-4days.

[Q] How to preserve the battery life in a location with very poor signal

First to clarify my question: I'm not asking how to prevent the daily battery drain in a poor-signal area. It definitely happens unless the phone is switched to airplane mode. My question is how to avoid the shortening of the battery life in the long run if the phone has to be used in such condition.
My workplace is basically a signal black hole to any carrier. With T-mobile I got no service for most of the time but I can occasionally send/receive text messages/emails say every 15 minutes with flimsy connection. There is absolute no way to make a phone call, so I usually walk outside when needed. I don't have WiFi neither so I prefer to keep the phone on to stay on the grid. However my concern is doing so will shorten the battery life eventually due to the constant power draining and recharging, so I come up with some ways for such condition. Please suggest which you think will do the least harm to battery and allow me to receive email and text.
1. Use it normally. It usually consumes 60% of the battery just sitting on my desk throughout the day. I can actually live with it be cause the battery is large enough for me to waste this way. But it harms the battery life without a doubt.
2. Use it with a charger plugged on my desk for most of the time, so it will supply the power for signal searching. Usually if you keep a battery at full charge all the time, it dies soon due to "slacking." My laptop has this problem and its battery basically serves as a UPS now. I have less concern for a phone because it will still be recharged daily.
3. Use an NFC tag to tell the phone it's in the office, and then use some software to prevent the draining like Tasker/Juice Defender. That makes most sense but I haven't have figure out the profiles. I've used Tasker before (thought it's too complicated) and NFC is totally new to me. I would like to take some suggestions if you have done something similar.
Thanks!

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First to clarify my question: I'm not asking how to prevent the daily battery drain in a poor-signal area. It definitely happens unless the phone is switched to airplane mode. My question is how to avoid the shortening of the battery life in the long run if the phone has to be used in such condition.
My workplace is basically a signal black hole to any carrier. With T-mobile I got no service for most of the time but I can occasionally send/receive text messages/emails say every 15 minutes with flimsy connection. There is absolute no way to make a phone call, so I usually walk outside when needed. I don't have WiFi neither so I prefer to keep the phone on to stay on the grid. However my concern is doing so will shorten the battery life eventually due to the constant power draining and recharging, so I come up with some ways for such condition. Please suggest which you think will do the least harm to battery and allow me to receive email and text.
1. Use it normally. It usually consumes 60% of the battery just sitting on my desk throughout the day. I can actually live with it be cause the battery is large enough for me to waste this way. But it harms the battery life without a doubt.
2. Use it with a charger plugged on my desk for most of the time, so it will supply the power for signal searching. Usually if you keep a battery at full charge all the time, it dies soon due to "slacking." My laptop has this problem and its battery basically serves as a UPS now. I have less concern for a phone because it will still be recharged daily.
3. Use an NFC tag to tell the phone it's in the office, and then use some software to prevent the draining like Tasker/Juice Defender. That makes most sense but I haven't have figure out the profiles. I've used Tasker before (thought it's too complicated) and NFC is totally new to me. I would like to take some suggestions if you have done something similar.
Thanks!
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Isn't the issue with batteries related to cycles? I'm not sure it matters that you end up with 40% of battery at the end of the day vs 15% when you charge it up. A cycle is a cycle, more or less I think.
If you don't believe the first point, I also don't think that research really shows that leaving a lithium ion battery plugged in "all" the time has major detrimental effects, and even if it did you would still be using the battery for a good deal of the day, at least the time you're not at work right?
I feel like you might be a little too worried about it.

kanetheninja said:
Isn't the issue with batteries related to cycles? I'm not sure it matters that you end up with 40% of battery at the end of the day vs 15% when you charge it up. A cycle is a cycle, more or less I think.
If you don't believe the first point, I also don't think that research really shows that leaving a lithium ion battery plugged in "all" the time has major detrimental effects, and even if it did you would still be using the battery for a good deal of the day, at least the time you're not at work right?
I feel like you might be a little too worried about it.
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About the charging cycle, I read something here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries. Basically it shows deep charging cycles has more detrimental effects on the battery capacity. My point was if the battery is cycled deeply everyday, it is under much more stress compared to those working with good signals.
Maybe I worry too much but I feel really bad just to see my phone sitting there wasting a lot of battery.

I have had the same problem with you as my office is underground.
From my experience, it's best to turn off data. You can turn off the radio all together, but I guess you still want to have signal where you can.
This can be automated by Taker (haven't used) or Juice Defender. I don't know if Juice Defender Free can do this (it should), but Juice Defender Ultimate have an option to turn off wifi and data when the screen is off.
Having the charger next to your desk is also a viable option. But rather than plugging it all the time, you should charge when it is needed.
Edit: as discussed elsewhere, you should not try to do full charges (0-100%) as this would not work out well for you at office as well as it it will shorten battery life.
Edit 2: Juice Defender Ultimate
=> Enable Advance profile (Status Tab)
=> Go to Control Tab
=> Enable Mobile Data and Wifi control (first and third option)

wawacoffee said:
About the charging cycle, I read something here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries. Basically it shows deep charging cycles has more detrimental effects on the battery capacity. Mypoint was if the battery is cycled deeply everyday. it is under much more stress compared to those working with good signals.
Maybe I worry too much but I feel really bad just to see my phone sitting there wasting a lot of battery.
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Can you try only charging your phone at work? From the options you've listed,leaving it plugged in seems like the best option at work seems like the best option. Assuming you currently only charge your phone once a day, it shouldn't make much difference to switch the charging time to during the work day.This way your peak energy usage will fall on a time when you have unlimited power available and you should have enough battery to go home and come back.

build.prop tweak
There is a build.prop tweak but I can't guarantee that it works.
You can try it out and tell us about it :fingers-crossed:
http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
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ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000
The number value is how often to re-connect to the tower. A phone in a poor connection area will
attempt to reconnect all the time, draining the battery. It's in milliseconds so 1000 = 1sec. I wouldn't
exceed 2sec but you already knew you are on your own with this one.

I have the exact problem at work.
My question is if I connect the phone to the charger at work, will the phone runs on the juice from the charger or from the battery? If it runs on the juice from the charger (like laptops), that should have minimum effect to the battery. If it uses the battery and the charger just charges the battery then the battery life will be cut in half (2 charge per day instead of 1 charge per day).

I have terrible signal at work and my Inspire has a small battery. My phone is in power save by lunch. I charge mine during lunch every day and leave it on the charger at night. I generally will not plug it in if I can't charge it all the way up. My original battery is now 18 months old and works as well as it did new. Other Inspire/DHD users have had to replace batteries in less than 12 months, so I don't think my charging cycle variations have harmed it too much.
It only has to last until after the holidays when I can order my N4. Even if I had to try to push it to 2 years, I think I wouldn't worry too much.
Also, by the time it is not under warranty, the batteries will be cheap and will always be easier to change than an iPhone.
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Thanks everyone. Based on the discussion I think I will just use it normally and charge whenever needed. The phone should be my slave not the other way around. I'm not planning to root it, at least not now, so I won't change the build.prop.
I did tried Juice Defender yesterday. It slowed down the battery drain but not very impressively, because it only turns off the data not the entire cellular radio. I installed the app during lunch so you can see the difference from the middle of the day. Google+ was a real ***** because it tried to upload my camera photos with such connection... I turned it off too so it also helped.

"Android OS" should not be this active.
It's possible that you have some background process draining the battery. Try disabling as many services as you can.
If you have Wifi at work try turning it ON. If not then turn your Mobile Data OFF like KyraOfFire suggested.

I get weak signal at my work as well. Thankfully, we have WiFi, so I usually force my phone to use 2g then connect to WiFi. :good:

-Mindroid- said:
"Android OS" should not be this active.
It's possible that you have some background process draining the battery. Try disabling as many services as you can.
If you have Wifi at work try turning it ON. If not then turn your Mobile Data OFF like KyraOfFire suggested.
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I don't have Wifi unfortunately. I will look into Android OS later on.

Inconsistent battery drain overnight

I've recently bought the LG G6 and while many things works very nicely to me and overall it feels like a solid device I still have problems regarding battery drain overnight. Besides a relatively high drain I also noticed it to be very inconsistent draining from 3-4% to 10%-16 in periods of 8-10 hours under about the very same conditions. I've tried to track down the causes using multiple methods so I have a lot of bugreports going thru Google's Battery Historian tool and dumpfiles from Better Battery Stats app. I can post them if it helps but so far they didn't helped much to understand the reasons for the drain and the inconsistency as well. I though it was coming from a weak WiFi signal or poor mobile signal but it's not related. My settings are: WiFi always on, Sync on, AOD off, data on, Do Not Disturb on overnight, VoLTE is always off, Location turned on (high accuracy + iZat on but wifi and BT verification off) etc. Suggestions are welcome.

Do people not leave phone on charge overnight anymore?

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Do people not leave phone on charge overnight anymore?
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I used to but I don't think it's the best practice. Probably will have an impact on battery lifespan and since we have quick charge is also unnecessary I guess. Also, losing less battery while stand by provides more SOT.

vctrrl said:
I used to but I don't think it's the best practice. Probably will have an impact on battery lifespan and since we have quick charge is also unnecessary I guess. Also, losing less battery while stand by provides more SOT.
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It will 'cut off' once fully charged. Doesn't cause any real issues. Unless you keep the phone for 4-5 years.

basicreece said:
It will 'cut off' once fully charged. Doesn't cause any real issues. Unless you keep the phone for 4-5 years.
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Yeah but I'd still want to improve stand by drain to have a better performance during the day.

I can confirm an issue with very high overnight drain. I turn off all radios and typically use the app switcher to close all running apps. Despite this, on a couple of occasions I woke and found that battery had lost about 25% overnight. Looking at the battery drain history it was clear that the phone had entered a very low power doze state, stayed there for a few hours and then often around 3AM would kick into some kind of high power usage state wherein the battery tanked. I don't know what the cause is, but it's not something I like to see. I often use phones on backpacking trips where there's no ability to charge and managing charge is important. With reliable doze, there's no need to turn the phone off, but with this behaviour, it would be critical.

faronium said:
I can confirm an issue with very high overnight drain. I turn off all radios and typically use the app switcher to close all running apps. Despite this, on a couple of occasions I woke and found that battery had lost about 25% overnight. Looking at the battery drain history it was clear that the phone had entered a very low power doze state, stayed there for a few hours and then often around 3AM would kick into some kind of high power usage state wherein the battery tanked. I don't know what the cause is, but it's not something I like to see. I often use phones on backpacking trips where there's no ability to charge and managing charge is important. With reliable doze, there's no need to turn the phone off, but with this behaviour, it would be critical.
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That's really worse than what I'm reporting. My device still goes into full doze after a while on light doze. My drain is significant but never over 16%. I'd suggest you to run Better Battery Stats and look for wakelocks.