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"Software giant Microsoft is apparently getting ready to drop its trousers and unveil its assets at the Mobile World Congress event at Barcelona next month. "
"Microsoft is also expected to unveil Windows Mobile 6.5 with the new UI at the Mobile World Congress. "
XPERIA will get the upgrade i am sure!
Hurrah - "new UI" hopefully more easy to use!
This post does not help anybody for some reasons:
1) You did not state the source of your informtion
2) Most people may already have known this
3) this is only speculation (anyway I am expecting the announcment soon too)
4) no one knows what to expect from WM6.5 except Skynet...
sorry, i hope to not offend you but thats what came up in my mind...
It will be interesting to see if Xperia actually gets the update to WM6.5, but I'm not so sure. One can only hope... In any case, surely the developers at XDA will cook something up
Here: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2485
Nothing has been said about a new XPERIA. SE haven't announced its new partner yet and previous reports state that the new XPERIA should be unveiled late 2009...
Comeradealexi - Thanks for letting us well me know as it means I've got something to google now on my lunch break.
here it is if you don't want to click
"Neowin, quoting unnamed sources close to Microsoft, is claiming Mobile World Congress (February 16-19th), will not only be bringing Windows Mobile 6.5, but also a slew of Microsoft services rumoured previously to the Windows Mobile platform.
“SkyBox” is a service for users to sync a phones information with the web. Microsoft will be offering automatic backup and restore services, access and management of phone data and provide easy communication and sharing with others. The service will also allow syncing of contacts, email/SMS, calendar items and pictures into the cloud. Neowin adds a new detail, not rumoured previously, that this service will be available not only on Windows Mobile, but also for other phone OS’s.
“SkyLine” will be aimed at small businesses. Offering similar functionality to SkyBox, businesses will be able to setup their phones with Microsoft’s Exchange hosting with their own domain names.
“SkyMarket” is Microsoft’s mobile marketplace, a competitor to Apple’s AppStore and RIM’s Blackberry application center.
Neowin also claims that their sources confirm the leaked screenshots from earlier this year are in fact real, despite being panned for having icons stolen from the Apple OSX desktop, and that they represent design concepts.
Looks like we do have quite a bit to look forward to in a months time after all."
so make of that what you will
could have sworn i posted this yesterday..
i think x1 will work slower after upgrade.
because it's windows : )
Ethermind said:
i think x1 will work slower after upgrade.
because it's windows : )
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After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
msalmank said:
After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
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I think you meant hope.. ;P
fards said:
I think you meant hope.. ;P
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LOL LOL
Ah... Microsucks...
well... let's better hope we get "some" update "some" day... as things are going till now... maybe this will be the first PDA without official rom updates... ¬¬
msalmank said:
After having played with Windows 7... i can say that Microsoft is finally taking things in the right direction. So i expect WinMo 6.5 to be way better.
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"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuums." -Old forum posting
All joking aside, I am looking forward to any updates made to Windows Mobile Professional. Standard got a real nice interface boost with 6.1, and we didn't get squat in the "looks" department.
fards said:
I think you meant hope.. ;P
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Actually... i meant EXPECT!
NotATreoFan said:
"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuums." -Old forum posting
All joking aside, I am looking forward to any updates made to Windows Mobile Professional. Standard got a real nice interface boost with 6.1, and we didn't get squat in the "looks" department.
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Just go and play with Windows 7 and you'll be sitting right here beside me saying that you EXPECT Windows Mobile to be taken in the right direction...
msalmank said:
Just go and play with Windows 7 and you'll be sitting right here beside me saying that you EXPECT Windows Mobile to be taken in the right direction...
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I've been running Windows 7 for about 2 weeks now, and I'm with you 100%. I'm not running it as my full time OS, but it is definitely running better than Vista did in beta/pre-SP1.
yeah - they've done it right with windows 7 - they'll have done it right with mobile 6.5/7
It seems somewhat likely that the X1 will get the update as we haven't heard a word from sony about any software updates whatsoever. What's the use of the software update utility if no updates are made? Maybe they haven't released anything because they have to wait until 6.5 is announced.
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(windows 7) is definitely running better than Vista did in beta/pre-SP1.
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Windows 7 beta 1 is better than Vista full stop
Cant wait for WM7... getting bored of the same old same old now.....................
n4v1n said:
It seems somewhat likely that the X1 will get the update as we haven't heard a word from sony about any software updates whatsoever. What's the use of the software update utility if no updates are made? Maybe they haven't released anything because they have to wait until 6.5 is announced.
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More likely, since they've parted ways with HTC, they've abandoned updating the Xperia X1, so not only will we not see Windows Mobile 6.5, we won't even get any firmware updates, like the retarded problem where turning off WIFI also turns of Bluetooth at the same time, or where Bluetooth keeps turning off by itself (workaround is Mortscript, but why do we need workarounds?!), etc. etc.
The HTC Touch HD has ALREADY had 2 or 3 updates, and it was released later than the Xperia X1. Where are the Xperia updates? NONE. NADA. ZIP.
I have an Xperia X1 but I'm starting to feel mighty bad here... I'm not feeling any love from HTC or SE and I doubt (and I hope I'm wrong) that we will see any updates, ever, for our machines.
Microsoft reportedly plans to launch Windows Mobile 6.6 (codenamed Maldives) in February 2010 to strengthen its competitiveness against iPhone- and Android-based platforms, according to industry sources.
Sales of Windows Mobile 6.5 have been flat since the platform was launched in the fourth quarter of 2009, pushing Microsoft to bring forward Windows Mobile 6.6, which supports capacitive touchscreens, the sources noted.
However, Microsoft may now delay the launch of Windows Mobile 7 to 2011, instead of the end of 2010 as originally planned, the sources indicated.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100114PD216.html
I cannot imagine how good must WM 7 be, to compensate for all the delays... WM 6,5, even with all the HTC tweaks, is still far behind Android in terms of user-friendliness and usability. Microsoft really need to work hard on WM 7 if they want to remain a leader in mobile software industry.
Bad news
Thanks for this information, Bro
See you
Franky
Here's a great article that puts together all of the current rumors:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/01/14/urnidgns852573C400693880002576AC00211326.DTL
Never heard of WM 6.6, but I'm assuming it's either that or Windows Phone(WM7) that's going to be announced in February.
EDIT: Update! http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft-We-werent-talking-about-Windows-Mobile-7-at-CES/1263586701
Starting to have a bad feeling about WM 7 actually making it to our phones in 2010.
Am I the only one who thinks ms are trying to blow smoke up our collective bums? How can a ms rep say "we were not speaking specifically of Windows Mobile 7" about an interview they'd given and then follow it up by "not going into further detail as to which product the interview did concern.".....Wogan said it best..."Is it me?"
As it was to be expected.
Another incremental polish of a mobile os of the past.
Wasit it originally intended for those pda`s and low power mobile pc things.
But on the other hand .,. we do got the win mo 7 for the HD2. the bad thing is...
We dont know when.
And the HD2 being the first phone up to the standards of microsoft. If it would take another year for microsoft to do something and get going. Dont you thing HTC will have another range of phones ready by then ?? And moest of the customers I know got a one or two year post pay plan. and when they resign the plan contract for two years they get another phone.
Uhmm dont get me wrong here im trying to make this example.
I got the MDA vario then a tytn then a diamond and now im a happy HD2 user.
Most of the time a phone lasts about 1 or two years. .
So when the microsoft dudes are finally ready.. The HD2 will be obsolete.
And HTC told us there will be a free update available to win 7.
But after a year delay.. it seems stupid to take along HD2 in the update programm, after a year maybe more.
Or am i totally wrong here ??
Enonoid said:
So when the microsoft dudes are finally ready.. The HD2 will be obsolete.
And HTC told us there will be a free update available to win 7.
But after a year delay.. it seems stupid to take along HD2 in the update programm, after a year maybe more.
Or am i totally wrong here ??
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This is totally spot-on. Even if WM7 comes out at Q3/4 of this computer, there bound to be some faster and better spec phones around to utilize the new OS and our HD2 will probably be left in our houses as lab-rats for home cookings!
I also believed that by the time WM7 really comes out, most of us would have moved on to Android with our HD2 already!
I don't see why people are dragging WM7 into this. As far as I'm concern (and anyone with the least bit of common sense), WM7 is not coming out until the end of this year/early of next year. Until then, MS could release version 6.99999 and I wouldn't give a crap.
^^ Haha well said! I just dont believe people actually think WM7 will be released just 2 months after release of WM 6.5!!
true
Well we arnt dragging win 7 in,, Its already there.
Well i know it would be to much to ask of em. the microsoft guys.
dj_ghosie said:
I also believed that by the time WM7 really comes out, most of us would have moved on to Android with our HD2 already!
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I hope someone is able to port the latest Android to Leo. I just love the hardware specs of Leo (specifically the screen size) to go with Android OS. Winmo 6.6 or 6.9999 do not interest me.
Not that this helps, but I was in a Microsoft presentation and their own slides are still showing H1 2010 as the release date. The bad news is that the Microsoft person giving the presentation had betas of every product but didn't have or hasn't seen Win Mobile 7 yet
windows 6.5.3 = 6.6
Everything is new on WM7!
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo
If this place is wrong for this.. Im sorry... I would like to share with the friends form xda!
sebastianmc said:
Everything is new on WM7!
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo
If this place is wrong for this.. Im sorry... I would like to share with the friends form xda!
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Windows 7, looking forward to it and definitely my next phone will still be a Windows Mobile!
Most people are talking about it in this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633291
Just wanted to let you know. WP7S FTW!
chongbh said:
Windows 7, looking forward to it and definitely my next phone will still be a Windows Mobile!
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Yeap!! Its not time to change our OS Lets see what HTC will make on wm7. and maybe there will be a new touchFLO..
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
NO TouchFlo on WM7
sebastianmc said:
Yeap!! Its not time to change our OS Lets see what HTC will make on wm7. and maybe there will be a new touchFLO..
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As far as we’ve heard so far, the details we broke in January are spot-on. Much of the interface is very Zune like. As we said then, manufacturers will not be able to make massive modifications to Windows Phone. Microsoft specifically said that things like HTC’s TouchFlo will not exist on Windows Phone.
Just check this out: mobilecrunch first-impressions-windows-mobile-7-now-known-as-windows-phone
turborider said:
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
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but not forever as adobe said they are developing now for wm6.5 and it will be released in the future for wm7 as they hasenot developed a wm7 version yet
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but not forever as adobe said they are developing now for wm6.5 and it will be released in the future for wm7 as they hasenot developed a wm7 version yet
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i hope so mate
turborider said:
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
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Well, Microsoft told us why. Flash on smartphones is EXTREMELY buggy, doesn't always work, and when it did work it wasn't very good quality. The only time it worked reasonably was in Skyfire, and the developers didn't get even the Flash player part from Adobe!! Although, it was nice to have the option, but at least Adobe is trying to improve it to include it with Windows Phones...eventually.
Oh, yes, and the HTC HD2's proccessor DOES support Windows Phone 7, but I don't think it has the required 4-point touch or search button (I suppose we could use the home key...).
Edit: I just found out that the HD2 has the correct minimum resolution for Windows Phone 7, WVGA.
oops, wrong thread, sorry
Really
mpscuba68 said:
As far as we’ve heard so far, the details we broke in January are spot-on. Much of the interface is very Zune like. As we said then, manufacturers will not be able to make massive modifications to Windows Phone. Microsoft specifically said that things like HTC’s TouchFlo will not exist on Windows Phone.
Just check this out: mobilecrunch first-impressions-windows-mobile-7-now-known-as-windows-phone
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I do not think it is spot on. Even some things you are saying here are your assumptions, not something MS stated. Where did now MS state specifically that HTC's Touch Flo will not exist on Windows Phone.
From what I see so far, MS has focused on what they will require vendors to provide, not on what they will ban them from providing. According to your logic, anything MS did not explicitly mention in this announcement is "specifically" banned.
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series said:
Screen resolution, aspect ratio, CPU speed, memory, you name it; it's all mandated by Microsoft. Even the button configuration: Start, back, search. That's it. No deviations. Speaking of deviations - no more custom UIs, Microsoft doesn't allow them.
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Fdo35 said:
Well, Microsoft told us why. Flash on smartphones is EXTREMELY buggy, doesn't always work, and when it did work it wasn't very good quality. The only time it worked reasonably was in Skyfire, and the developers didn't get even the Flash player part from Adobe!! Although, it was nice to have the option, but at least Adobe is trying to improve it to include it with Windows Phones...eventually.
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This is true. The future is HTML5, which is every bit as capable, and more stable, will leave Flash in the dust where it belongs.
What we really should be asking is if these new smartphone platforms will support HTML5 and WebOS.
Flash is dead.
donalgodon said:
This is true. The future is HTML5, which is every bit as capable, and more stable, will leave Flash in the dust where it belongs.
What we really should be asking is if these new smartphone platforms will support HTML5 and WebOS.
Flash is dead.
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definitelly agree, and hope you are right...
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(...) Flash is dead. (...)
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Is it? Really? As of today? Come on...
Yeah, maybe sometime in the future. As soon as WP7 is ready. Maybe.
But definitely not as of today.
tictac0566 said:
Is it? Really? As of today? Come on...
Yeah, maybe sometime in the future. As soon as WP7 is ready. Maybe.
But definitely not as of today.
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Not today, but the nails are in the coffin. It won't be long until the rest of the world realizes, but it won't happen until other leaders take the leaps necessary to put other options on the table, and HTML5 support will be a part of MacOS, iPhoneOS, et. al. Steve Jobs has made that clear.
Stability and performance is what we are all after. Say what you want about Apple, but they have a design team that is maverick enough to make the leaps and not worry about legacy support.
We need to begin to make the break away from Flash.
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I do not think it is spot on. Even some things you are saying here are your assumptions, not something MS stated. Where did now MS state specifically that HTC's Touch Flo will not exist on Windows Phone.
From what I see so far, MS has focused on what they will require vendors to provide, not on what they will ban them from providing. According to your logic, anything MS did not explicitly mention in this announcement is "specifically" banned.
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Well, actually a Microsoft person (don't know what he does)
told an Engadget editor that while he was giving him a demo of Windows Phone 7, which was recorded. I think so, that is. It may have been a video from another site or quoted, but I remember Microsoft saying that somewhere.
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
If you're asking if the touch 2 will be able to run windows phone 7 OS then almost certainly not, sorry
The real question is, would you want to? apart from being nice to look at, WP7 is very limited.
Not almost certanly, its 100 000 % sure
I know, I was being a little too kind.
Like I said, for me, the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to wp7, only the new ui is improved. and the xbox live integration.
Keep in mind guys that you can not run any existing application on WM7 (change of operating system)....requires new development of all software.....
Not sure if I want WM7.....untill enough freeware is available.....
WindCZ said:
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
Addicted2xda said:
WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Yeah! M$ is only to make Dollars . Thats why I trust xda more than M$ or even HTC .
If it was to M$, I would have never been able to run WM 6.5 on my Vox .
So, let us keep our fingers crossed .
But when it comes to port another OS to the Touch2, won't be Windows Mobile 7 easier than Android ?
I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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I know WP7 is going to be GSM-only until next year, but is there any chance of it running on the evo?
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Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.
Why would you want it to? Lol
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Leukay said:
Really? You cant search?
To answer you, no. It will pretty much positively never-have-i-ever happen.
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lol, bad day??
To the OP:
In short, no. Micro$oft will charge carriers to load Windows on phones. So without a pre-activated Windows phone, you will not have the correct validation to load WM7 on a non Windows phone. But of course... with money you can do anything. Such as buying Windows Mobile software...then configuring all the hardware...etc etc. But I think you catch my drift. lol Just a big hassle.
You can do it vice versa because Android is open sourced.
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Why would you want it to? Lol
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Because he's not a hater and choice is always better?
You can get the Zune Home launcher app thing. Makes it very WP7.
actually it most likely will be possible, thing is the radio probably wont work till the cdma version comes out. seeing as it has been ported to the hd2 it seem very possible. android is a great os but if you have a device that allows you to test an other os why not i would love to try wp7 out.
engadget.com/2010/03/28/htc-hd2-gets-early-windows-phone-7-os-port-could-be-released-be/
Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
that endgadget video is sketchy as ****. there was a guy who posted almost identical video of him running iOS on sprint instinct when it first came out. It showed him holding the phone in front of the monitor just like that. In the end it was all faked, dont know why but the guy just disappeared.
so ya, till i see it, i won't believe it. + the OS looks bloated and slow. It will probably drain battery faster and lag/shutter.
well, at least in that case... its running on an intended platform... but yeah, win phone 7 is pretty much done before it starts. I am betting that MS will give up on the phone business after this. Maybe they will sell their employees to Apple. Apple will become the next MS after Android holds its king seat for a year or two.
i know once windows phone 7 comes out im still going to stay on android tho honestly i think wp7 is going to come out good microsoft has been doing pretty good with everything lately, windows 7, ie9 the kin was a fail lol but i think wp7 will be a pretty strong player in the smart phone market and problem is most of you are calling it a piece of **** before using it i think it deserves a chance and if you guys are right and it is **** then i will accept your i told you so's lol
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Most importantly, it would be illegal since you would not have a legit license. There is no retail version of Windows Phone 7 nor will there ever be. It's one thing to use an OEM licence on a phone that already had an authorized OEM license... but it is another thing to use an OEM app on hardware it was not designed for. It would be considered piracy at that point and I doubt this site (or other popular sites) would condone that activity.
Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way
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Also... if you want to make your EVO crappier, why wait for windows mobile 7 to come out? Just wipe your ass with it.
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lol.....that's pretty damn funny.
well regardless of what you android fanboys have to say about windows phone 7, as soon as it get released on sprint with a 4.3 inch screen and some decent hardware i will be switching. I was originally an windows mobile user and made the switch from the tp2 to the evo. I just couldn't pass up on the specs of the EVO and the hd2 wasn't released for anyone but t-mobile. I never thought i would like android but after using it i actually like it alot but with that said i definitely will give windows phone 7 a try before i make a final judgement
BrianDigital said:
wow fanboy alert. Yeah no one wants to see choice...............also all the sense roms on here are illegal to by the way
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Exactly. And when has MS come and knocked your door down for stealing W7...probably never, and have any of their products ever not been cracked or hacked before within a week of them being out...probably not.
I like Android, but it's still a diamond in the rough when compared to iOS. I think WP7 will be a good mid ground for most people. Android is pretty rough (especially without sense) for most non-techy types of people.
They won't sell wp7 as a stand alone so that means its not pirating because they don't sell the software. The software is preloaded into a phone you buy.
I think it would be HTC who we would be pirating....
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Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...
edufur said:
Wow... you all don't get it. You didn't really read my post as to what would make it illegal.
First... let me say this. I love Android... and I guess I don't mind being called a fanboy. But before I got my EVO, I stayed true to Windows Mobile for YEARS and shouted about how it was way better than anything out there. So I was an MS fanboy until it just became a reality that MS is filled with idiots who don't know how to develop.
Now.. when it comes to legality of software and licensing....
Windows Mobile comes installed onto many handsets. Those handsets by definition are licensed as OEM. Hacked Windows Mobile ROMS are OEM and when re-used on a Windows Mobile device, it is a gray area that has no illegal definition. But it is because those devices had the OEM license FOR Windows Mobile.
BUT... Android phones NEVER had an OEM license to use Windows Mobile... which makes installation on those phones (assuming someone can figure it out) a technically illegal act. IF, however, MS sold retail versions of just the Windows Mobile software (wont ever happen), then and ONLY then, could you legally install that software on any handset you could force it onto.
As for HTC and sense... and the ROMS that use sense being illegal. On what basis are you saying this? We buy phones that have sense on them. So using a ROM that still has it on there is perfectly fine.
I hope this clears things up...
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what he means, is android by design and default is an OPEN SOURCE project. (AOSP), which means it can be modified, used, and redistributed (in a nutshell), and Google HAS to release all source codes.
I think we all know WM is NOT open source, everytime WM or a Windows OS gets loaded onto a device/computer, somehow the manufacturer is paying for the OS. (again, in a nutshell)
On the contrary, Sense is HTC proprietary software, and NOT open source.
This is the reason why cyanogen refuses to put anything Sense related into his CM6 roms, because HTC hasnt OFFICIALLY given anyone the rights to modify and/or redistribute its code.
Is it "illegal" (for lack of better term)? Sure the modded Sense roms are..Will HTC out cease and desist letters to anyone here? I can almost guarantee they wont unless someone is profiting from there code. Just my .02 cents