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So I just got my Mogul, and trying to find software for it is really annoying. no list of programs with screen shots, each program type has about 40 different homebrewed versions, most of the stuff doesn;t have a lonk to download anything, no homepage reference so you don't know if you're downloaded a version 4 versions older than the current, piss poor instructions on howw to actually use it, etc.
Is there an actual list of software links, that is updated with the most recent verion, of sotware for this phone? For example, I'm interested in adding that "Cube" menuing system, and doing a Google search returns 50 different versions of 20 different pieces of software linking to pages with older versions of the software that doesn't even work.
Is there a commonly accepted "best" cube type mening system out there? how about a commonly accepted "best" iPhone like interface?
emkorial said:
So I just got my Mogul, and trying to find software for it is really annoying. no list of programs with screen shots, each program type has about 40 different homebrewed versions, most of the stuff doesn;t have a lonk to download anything, no homepage reference so you don't know if you're downloaded a version 4 versions older than the current, piss poor instructions on howw to actually use it, etc.
Is there an actual list of software links, that is updated with the most recent verion, of sotware for this phone? For example, I'm interested in adding that "Cube" menuing system, and doing a Google search returns 50 different versions of 20 different pieces of software linking to pages with older versions of the software that doesn't even work.
Is there a commonly accepted "best" cube type mening system out there? how about a commonly accepted "best" iPhone like interface?
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Um, there are literally THOUSANDS of programs that work on the Titan. It doesnt take a lot of work searching to find programs that are awesome. Try using the search feature of this website or ppcgeeks to find what you need instead of asking someone to deliver it to you.
Searching is your best answer. Making a list of the most currnet builds out there (some of which the most current isn't the "best") of software out there would be obselete in a months time. I've got the best results with trial and error in finding what works with my setup (hardware, rom and radio).
Thousands? I've downloaded about 20, and TWO work. the rest do NOTHING, due to obscure compatability problems, some random patch being required that no one seems to have, or it just flat out won't work, period. It;s incredibly frustrating.
Most have said it. You need to do your own research and on top of that what's good for you may not be good for someone else. In a way this is the fun part - the searching for the good stuff. Also, I take much advise from the experts on this and other forums.
In any case, you can't *****. The source of this software is coming from thousands of people/companies. Some write something good and just dump it on a server for others to download and offer little to no documentation. BUT... you pay nothing in many cases (can't ***** there). ANd it's almost always "run at your own risk!".
Want something stable, documented, and supported by a company... stay stock (OEM). Wait... my stock software was not stable, not well documented, and hardly supported (Sprint). As a matter of fact an alpha ROM I am running now is much better than the OEM software that the phone came with.
Willing alpha and beta tester,
tsp
Mogul w/ 6.1, 3.16, 3.27, 60711, NexVision Alpha ROM.
YMMV
make sure you are downloading ppc applications and not smartphone ones, and that you are downloading applications for WM6. If the app doesn't work then search the forums to see what other peoples experience is with that program.
while some of the responses here have been a little abrupt, you need to understand that your request is literally impossible. Nobody could possibly compile of a list of all the software that can run on the mogul.
Here are some things to try, though:
Search the forums for "best programs" and such things
Download different windows mobile apps and try them -- I've rarely found any that don't work.
Figure out what functionality you're looking for, and search specifically for that.
At the very least, if you want to post a query such as this one, you need to specify what exactly you're looking for. Our friend above wasn't exagerating when he said that there are thousands of apps that run on the mogul. If you're new to windows mobile, it'll take some getting used to. Be patient and read a lot. you'll figure it out.
Most people on this board are happy to help you with problems, but they do expect that you exert some energy on your own. If they feel like you haven't, they get touchy.
This thread might become a little more useful for you if you were to say what you are looking for (for example, if you're looking for a good program for maps and such that uses a data connection, I recommend Google Maps (visit http://m.google.com from your mobile phone)
Hope this helps, and good luck!
id say VITO SMS CHAT v1.0.1 is almost a must have if u text alot and have a stock ROM...most the custom ROMS have some form of threaded SMS added for u...but stock ROMS dont and this is a very nice program...i dont use this site much, but im on ppcgeeks 24/7 and i know we have a thread about it there...
also if ur looking for a nice web browser check out netfront browser 3.5 is pretty quick and it loads full websites not just the mobile version...and if u use myspace it actually loads the persons page background...its in beta now till may 31st, but if u search hard enough u can find ANY ppc program for free
I tried searching for a while now. After a failed ROM update I lost all my apps so I am re-customizing everything. How do you change the Title on the Home page? Right now it says: 'TELUS' but that's a little tacky. Can someone guide me to the right post?
Titan Apps
I have quite a few apps that I have been collecting would be happy to contribute to the list let me know...also in the development and hacking section there is a huge list of HTC apps that are pretty much always a go on the Titan.
I am new to this site.. I have a moguel.. and I would love to know what programs u have..please contact me at [email protected] with the info..please and thank u.
marriotheblackguy said:
I have quite a few apps that I have been collecting would be happy to contribute to the list let me know...also in the development and hacking section there is a huge list of HTC apps that are pretty much always a go on the Titan.
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i'm a noob as well but i read a bunch.thing is there are terms and titles that make reading these threads as bad as reading the bible at times.i tried a bunch of stuff since i had my mogul.i removed a bunch of stuff as well.but right now i use spb mobile shell,pocket plus,fun contact,s2play,s2u2,weather panel<-------- wich is cool as hell but takes a bunch of tweaking imo to get to run right.(still haven't got my radar images right)gpstoday,thumbcal,and a bunch of games.i'm not an expert by far but i know these apps work fine on my device.
this is pretty confusing but this is the index i use to keep track of all the apps that both work and are user-friendly(to an extent).
its kind of hard to understand of you havent written it but what ever
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
EDIT:btw i have all of these stored. (as in .cabs, .exes....)
KEY
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X = Located in Backup
O = Must retrive
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ON DISK BUT HAVEN'T INSTALLED
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PROGRAMS
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O-PDAMedia SIP Keyboard Light v1.0 - Full Screen Keyboard
X-An Original Idea.com Webby - Alternate Internet Browser
O-TCPMP AAC Plugin - Enables AAC PLayback capabilities for TCPMP
O-TCPMP - Alternate Media Player
A_C Slide2Unlock
X-TNT Task Manager 2_0_30487_2 - Task Manager in Tray
X-The EquinoXe Wizard reTOUCHed - New Phone Keypad
X-PHM Registry Editor
X-CodyPPC Threaded SMS
X-Picsel Browser
X-Windows .NET FRAMEWORK
X-Adobe Flash Lite 2.1
X-TouchFlo
X-TOUCHFLOCONFIG.TXT
X-Slither's Cube
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EXECUTABLES
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X-LAUNCHER - iPhone Emulator
X-REQUIRES CONFIG.INI
X-REQUIRES GFX.FOLDER
X-PPCPimBackUp
X-REQUIRES PIM.FOLDER
X-Where is my Ram?
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WMDC EXECTUTABLES
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X-Christmas Runner Lite
X-Chess v2.0
X-Gnuboy-GameBoyColor Emulator
X-Pokemon Crystal ROM
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THEMES
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X-wm6t-waterandfire.tsk - Lighter with Water
X-wm6t-stargateprometheus.tsk - The Prometheus -> Stargate
By the way, the cube isn't all its made out to be. TouchFLO is worth it, but I find myself constantly bringing up the cube on accident, not to mention that its stays in the background after launching. (eating up 8-9% of memory) It's nice to play with, and its great for showing off the capabilities of the phone but in the end, for me, it just wasn't worth it.
Then again, to each their own. Truly, TRY programs out. People like different things so you can't always trust a stranger to give you accurate advice.
I was once a "noob," having switched from Palm to come over to the "dark side" (remind me of the Mac vs PC thing). I have the VZW XV6800 with DCD's 2.3.2 rom onboard. I have thrashed and trashed my poor PPC many times before getting it stable the way I want. I have the following recommendations to all "noobs" who want to see "what works and what doesn't."
1) Don't fear the hard reset. If things go completely screwy, simply start from scratch. I store all my cab files on the card for this purpose. BTW, I have never needed to call Verizon after a hard reset. I simply *228 to program the SPL and "everyting is irie mon."
2) Make every effort to find the answer yourself before posting a question anywhere. You are likely not the first person to have whatever problem you think you have. To coin a phrase, "the truth is out there." If you don't have the time to search for the answer, you probably shouldn't be putsing (a technical term) with your phone. Check here and over at PPCGeeks.
3) Figure out which base application you cannot live without. ake sure that each works with the other by soft resetting after each install and working the phone a bit before loading another. My base for instance is: SPB Mobile Shell 2; PhoneWeaver; WisBar Advance; Live Search; Google Maps; Opera Mini 4; Resco Backup; Resco file Explorer; and SK Tools. I know they work well, and work together. I always load these first after a hard reset.
4) Get a good backup program (Sprite, SPB Backup, Resco), and use it daily or at least before each new testing round.
5) Backup your registry and save the backup in a safe place (card) in case.
6) Test new applications one at a time, with soft reset after each installation. Do not load another new app, until you are sure that you're happy with the previoous one or have fully uninstalled it.
7) Have fun! Be happy! Don't forget that it's just a damned phone with benefits.
those are some nice tips for someone who is new jgilfor. do you mind if i quoted you in my sig or something? (pm me)
warez i use
After going through this thread, i decided to add the apps i run to my sig. When i get home i'll add some more.
I don't know if it's a good idea or not but maybe i could throw up a page with links to the software? Unless i can upload them all here.
What do you vets think?
It's probably a better request to ask for the programs that each person uses. That's more useful than trying to get a list of every single program out there. With a program name and some patience, then you should be able to find the right install file. If not, then this phone was probably not meant for you, sorry. =( Maybe a Nokia? lol, j/k!
Anyways, I like GhettoBSD's idea! I keep a list of programs that I use so that I know what to reinstall after a ROM flash:
Nilisco Flashlight
HTC Voice Recorder
HTC Home and emunutz HTC Home Customizer
HTC Audio Manager
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle and TCPMP
Lordsmiff Battery Level
Jorrit Jongma WMWifiRouter
JRebeiro EsmertecJbed and Opera Mini
Stroths-Codyppc Led Killer 3.1
Oxios Memory
CooTek Cooperation Touchpal
GoogleMaps
PPCpimBackup
TomCo Solutions Stopwatch
Do you have a link for the HTC voice recorder that works with Mogul, I tried some but are not working. Cab installs the application, but when trying to record, always get an empty fie of 6b. No matter how long I record always have an empty file named voice00x with size of 6b. Or whay Im doing wrong? I installed the same file in a tytn and works perfect.
Here is what i use
Opera mini (great little browser)
DinarSoft MemMaid ( cleans out junk and temp/ frees memory too)
DinarSoft Handyswitcher (awesome taskbar app with cpu /memory usage that can be on top toolbar in every ap)
Shape Services IM+ ( great instant messanging app )
PPC geeks battery and performance reg hack
acbPowerMeter ( shows how much power apps consume, good for measuring 3g versus no internet use )
Blue Frog Touch Dialer, (htc diamond style dialer , skinable , bigger button layout very cool )
Led Killer 3.1 ( disables annoying flashing green service led )
HTC home plugin schen 2.10 ( nice gui mod, for weather and apps)
Youtubeplay
Total Commander
lokmeup IE Slow Scroll Fix
Google maps
Cloudyfa EsmertecJbed ( java)
PocketCM keyboard
RARLab pocket rar
Sipchange ( change keyboard tool )
someguy sMMS ( adds ability to send picture sms , providing you get your key from the sprint website)
PocketIRC ( mirc application)
Oxios memory ( free tool to free up unused memory)
TRE Pocket PC (free registry editor)
Long time lurker, first time poster. Love this place.
Well, I'm not a complete noob, but I do have a few questions/requests and such. I'm looking for a rom that would suit my needs best. I'm quite smitten with PointUI so I want to base my phone around it entirely.
My stats:
Bell HTC Touch (Unlocked)
Rom - RLM Custom "Diamond" type rom. (HTC Diamond's TouchFLO interface, but on a Touch. Swanky, but a pinch buggy/slow. Got a nasty memory leak somewhere down the line too.)
Radio - 3.42.5
Not sure what else to post for stats. Nothing specific to note IMO.
What I'm looking for:
Barebones Bell rom, nothing extra on the today screen since I'll be running TouchUI. I'd like to have the default Bell #777 dailer set up since I'm not sure how to do that manually. (Is there a OEM or .cab of that somewhere?) Plus any other "good" factory settings. (Proxy & Dailer mostly. WTF does that proxy thingamajig do anyways? Why is it that specific IP?) Also, that CM_Guardian program has gotta go too. In-ROM proprietary crap is FTL.
Anyhoo, I use my phone constantly, day-in and day-out. I have a Bluetooth Motorola HT820 that I use for music every day while at work so think of the phone and headset as an inseparable pair.
I'm looking for a music player alternative to Audio Manager that supports bluetooth headset control. I've found it to bog down my machine quite horribly some days. It also acts stupid when pausing/resuming through Bluetooth controls. It often plays a split second of the track I WAS listening to, then skips ahead to the next. I've tried GS player - nice but it doesn't support Bluetooth control.
I don't want HTC Home, 'Large Start Menu', TouchFlo (Specifically at least. If there's any other lightweight plugins that allow finger scrolling without massive bulk, please let me know!) or any of Bell's horrible bloatware. Just good things like Google Maps, Pocket Sand, Sprite Backup, PIM Backup, Resco Explorer / Total Commander, Opera, A really powerful Task manager, and any other useful utility. An alternative to HTC's Camera utility would be great too!
I'm familiar with kitchens and cooking roms. I've done one rom but it was quite literally devoid of all life whatsoever and frankly I didn't have a clue how to get things running. I know how to install OEM packages and have .cabs autoinstall after a hard reset, but I don't know how to tweak actual system settings in the rom package itself - if that makes any sense whatsoever.
Hopefully my rambling hasn't thrown too many people off this nitwit, but I love my phone and I think every person's phone should do exactly what they want it to!
(Ooh, a system-wide theme installer .cab would be awesome too!)
(Edit: Fixed TouchUI/PointUI typo, and CM_Guardian)
Browse around for the available ROMs. If you want to make it as custom as possible, try cooking your own, you'll eventually find it is much easier than it looks.
In fact, I just cooked my own ROM, and it's about as bare as it could get, the only thing added are some WM default apps and extra tools. With some extra reg tweaks included, and my graphics as well.
Now I have a ROM with 160MB+ available Storage Memory, and booting up with just over 70MB Program Memory. So my system itself is the way I want, and it's not bulked up with apps that will change in a week.
I've been browsing around, and it looks like I'll end up cooking me a personal ROM.
HOWEVER:
I just installed NexVision's Bell rom and it's pretty effing sweet, but the email and SMS applets give me some massive error and don't work. Everything else is just.... wow. A ton of work went into that rom.
OFF TOPIC:
what is this "TouchUI"?
D'oh! Stupid typo.
It's not TouchUI, It's PointUI. http://pointui.com/
Sorry 'bout that.
Well, I went ahead and got a nice rom cooked for myself. It's uber fast and has everything I need, however I'm running into an odd yet extremely annoying glitch: Every time I try to install/uninstall a cab file, or tweak certain settings, my phone application pops up.
Any ideas?
Saw this on another forum:
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Phone app randomly opens
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock from 1 to 2
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The full thread from which this came is here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20807
Hope this does it, MrG
Just plugged that in, hopefully it takes care of the issue. Many thanks!
I have sadly found yet another odd bug with my cooked rom. >_< The bluetooth headset that I use acts very strangely regarding the phone app itself. In the bluetooth device's settings I have disabled the Headset option while keeping the Wireless Stereo enabled. I use it as an MP3 player while at work.
ANYHOO, no matter what settings I tweak or adjust, the unit continuously re-routes all phone based functions to the headset (when it's connected) when that should be completely disabled. When I was using the stock rom (gasp) it worked quite perfectly.
Any suggestions would be most helpful. I love my headset, but I can't stand using it as a "phone".
Since the Ozone Rom is only on one carrier, we should put together a list of items to include/exclude
Exclude:
Get Applications
Getting started
Modem Link
Remote Desktop
Visual Voice Mail
Mobile IM
Mobile Email
VZ Navigator
Include
WMWifiRouter
Thoughts?
Definately exclude all the bloatware from Verizon.
Including Google Maps, Microsoft MyPhone (Not sure if it is in 6.5 by default or not?), and maybe a few games that are good on standard. I also use Facebook, but that is a little more specialty along with Opera.
Lets get some ROMs cooking! I miss 6.5 on my Touch and can't wait to get it on my Ozone.
include :
-winmo 6.5 - A MUST!
-soft reset
-light dimmer
-titanium panels ( YUM YUM )
-custom graphics all around..icons, battery, signal..etc etc
-text msgs retry ( i actually like it )
-Net C.F. 3.5
-Skyfire
-mp3 trimmer
ur exclude list is perfecto!
as i think of more, ill def post in here!
I'd honestly like a rom with as little as possible added in.. I want to be able to install only the programs I would like. Kinda like a fresh install of windows desktop.
But in all honesty, I will be happy and will put in some donations to whomever creates a nice rom.
That exclude list is indeed perfect.
Perhaps it would be best to keep the essentials to the ROM that need to run from the main memory. Programs like google maps, youtube, facebook, and such can be added per the users discretion. Typically, I install all potentially heavy memory programs to the storage card.
1. Obviously WinMo 6.5 and all of its customizations.
2. I would like to see IE6 cache moved to the Storage Card.
3. An upgrade to Mobile Office (create new documents and copy and paste). Not sure if that is possible. Alternative would be adding Documents to Go.
4. Internet Sharing or WMWifiRouter.
5. Total Commander or Resco Explorer.
6. PHM Registry Editor.
7. Soft Reset Button.
To me, that would be the basics. Anything else could be added by the user later to their particular needs.
I'd like to keep:
**Visual Voicemail
**Remote Desktop
**Quick GPS
Internet Sharing
HTC Audio Booster (a more universal equalizer would be better though, not something just shackled to the headset)
Office Mobile w/ OneNote
the current Com Manager skin (its nice, but hey, as long as the new one is functional, I won't complain any)
MP3 Trimmer
Speed Dial
HTC Voice Recorder
HTC Video Recorder
HTC Camera
I'd like to see added:
Talk2Me (if it's leaked yet?) OR
one of the standard Voice Command apps (MSFT or Cyberon)
Total Commander
Skyfire
Windows Live w/ Messenger
MSFT MyPhone
Advanced Config
dotfred task manager (is there a smartphone friendly version?)
I'm a ROM purist, so I only like barebone stuff in my ROMs. Keeping it simple, stupid. Lol.
Does anyone know if these apps can be updated once they're written to the ROM? Or would we have to reflash the new versions? In my experience cooked versions of Windows Live have been unable to propperly update since the program core files are R/O.
Good luck figuring out the GSM/CDMA probs ookba. Delicious chicken dinners coming your way once I'm running your 6.5 masterpiece.
Can Internet Sharing (ICS) be added to the Comm Manager?
I'd had to agree with the majority on the bare rom thing. As a person without vision (only light perception), the less visuals included, the better. I'd also add USB to PC to the list of inclusions though, as it's a nice app.
Also, I cna't seem to be able to run comm manager - it doesn't open and I don't get why. ODD. Maybe my screen reader is not letting it open?
Regardless... Customization can in deed be added in later, and you could provide links to websites with the tools for customizing.
Good luck!
-Tomi
include:
generally speaking phone hosted software... im sick of getting roms that require me to use/have a data plan... where i come from data as an add on is ridiculously expensive.. try $100/month++ for the most basic phone package with basic data
voice recorder
gps test 1.04
pim backup (or something like it)
resco explorer
all the google maps stuff etc can be downloaded easily
or can be offered on a "WITH DATA" rom
Make sure ##778# and ##3424# works on the new roms....
A bit of 'customer feedback' etc:
I was going to ask a question, because I have a specific request, but then thought rather than limit the thread why not make it a general feature request for custom ROMs, for people to come up with new ideas etc for our esteemed cooks to implement.
Anyway, this is my request:
Can we have a 'delete' icon on the SMS and Email tabs in Sense, so we can delete junk emails as they arrive without having to open them first?
Thanks
Paul.
some requests from the Chefs
1 - transparency all over, everywhere.
2 - no curtains anywhere
3 - small sized colour icon pack for taskbar, notifications, startbutton
4 - built in Slide-2-Unlock (ask the devs)
5 - all stock photo's , stock stocks, stock footprints delete
6 - clock packs in cabs with installation. Clock with seconds
7 - actionscreen on endcall button and left softkey
8 - preinstall my own application Reperion (find your phone back after theft)
9 - Organized startmenu !!!! All these freaking icons need to much scrolling!
10- built in ACR HD2 (automatic call recording)
11 built in musicID latest version
etc etc.. let the cooking begin
stable, stable , very stable ~
Hope this gonna be true
Sense 2.1!
I wish I could have the folowing.
- Without Copilot8 trial
- WM messaging (not HTC messaging) by default
Well. that's all..
Something that I'd definitely want is a simple and useful task manager that would make switching between say the music player and browser much less of a chore(I have the taskmanager on my startscreen as a quick launch icon). Just mapping the current task manager to one of the hard buttons would suffice.
* Super-fast.
* Loads of free ROM space - dump all unneeded crap like wallpapers and ringtones as separate cabs
* WM 6.5.x (a must!)
* Stock Manila with options to customise
* Dump Jblend for Jbed. Jbed is sooo much faster
* Microsoft Bluetooth Stack... if possible (probably not).
1- delete button on the email tab
2- graphical task switcher (similar to Windows 7) with touch scrolling through tasks
3- larger buttons (see NRJ Blackstone ROMs)
4- enable windows Mobile contacts in HTC "People" so you don't have to use the Windows Contacts application to create Windows Live contacts.
5- Ported Google Maps Navigation application from Android
6- enable importing of facebook phone numbers when linking contact to facebook, currently only birthday and picture are being imported.
Don't know if this is possible but
1. Option to save all e-mail (not just attachments) from all accounts to microSD
2. Import facebook birthday from contacts to calendar
3. Eliminate bugs with alarm app, sometimes I have to press 2-3 times to get into app
- Without Copilot8 trial
- WM messaging (not HTC messaging) by default
The Main to reqeusts, get rid of the buggy HTC messaging and CoPilot trial to save space!
- as close to stock as possible.
- option to have chinese traditional support (dislay/keyboard)
Dont take this the wrong way but..
Many chefs here choose to make their ROMs to fit the "market", to please as many as possible. So changes as, transparency there, transparency here, app this, app that. Its just to specific to each induvidual that want a cooked ROM.
Dont get me wrong, its good that you guys tell the/us chefs what you want. But this could just be done in the chefs ROM threads instead.
Just read the posts. Many of you takes up the same things. If you want a ROM that fist all youre needs, cook it youre self (Or talk to a nice chef to do if for you?).
Just my 2 cents..
barbapappa_86 said:
Dont take this the wrong way but..
Many chefs here choose to make their ROMs to fit the "market", to please as many as possible. So changes as, transparency there, transparency here, app this, app that. Its just to specific to each induvidual that want a cooked ROM.
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I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
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I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
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Excactly.. There are UC comp ROMs and SHASHIMI to tweak the phone after HR, so just cooking some stuff in it is worse imo. I just dont se the point.
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Excactly.. There are UC comp ROMs and SHASHIMI to tweak the phone after HR, so just cooking some stuff in it is worse imo. I just dont se the point.
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The only advantage I see is fast setup after hard reset if all the settings and tweaks are included in a ROM.
But many requests we have here are things for which there are no cabs, so maybe it is interesting not only to the cooks but also to the app developers (BS Tweak, Max Manilla, Touch X Icons etc...).
johncmolyneux said:
I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
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Agreed.
Would love to see an Ultra Lite ROM with everything that can be removed gone. In addition to this... cab files to put the removed stuff back if you wanted to.
What really annoys me with ROMs is when apps like google maps and Opera are cooked in.... These apps are always being updated so removing them from ROMs just makes sense!
Request
- Better touch screen accuracy.
- Better touch keyboard accuracy (like in iPhone)
- Close/Minimize buttons like in Windows 95/98/NT/XP/Vista/7
- Some kind of Windows 7 pined buttons at the bottom of screen, so you can always Maximize soft.
without copilot trial
auto power on/off on base of proximity sensor (or combination)
auto in call speaker on/off on base of proximity sensor (or other)
a lot more storage space, unbelievable now... 512mb rom standard, after initial setup there is only 178.11MB free to use???? So so soooooo wrong.... lol
working taskmanager @ top right corner, one which doesn't slow the device down!!!! showcase is no option, unresponsive and too big. One tap should be enough to display the running tasks..... (with the option to close them or switch to them)
fix the htc weather graphics of frost/snow (see attached pic for clarification ) --> only noticeable when you use hdwall for full screen wallpapers.
find a way to limit the number of sms to display when using threaded sms. It takes ages for the damn program to load the conversation. If for example it only loads like 20-30 sms, then there will be no problem i think. May b a button to show history (all?) --> may b better a suggestion to HTC, apparently they haven't tested with a large number of text messages. If they did...... SHAME ON YOU!
I know you all hear this stuff every day, so at the risk of sounding like an idiot....
I have spent several days reading through all the countless hundreds of posts on ROM mods, tweaks, etc. and I find my head swimming! I read through all the FAQ and Newbie threads on the board, and I must admit that despite it all, I still have so much I do not understand. Let me try to be direct.
I have almost no experience with registry editing and the last time I did any it was so long ago, that I forgot how to do it. I have literally zero experience with Windows Mobile OS. What I need to know is:
If any of you were buying a Leo now, as I am about to do, where would you start? What are the top three things (for example) that I should do to get the most performance out of the device? Can the Leo be used "stock" and actually function? I have heard so much about the dreaded SMS bug, etc. that I hesitate to pull the trigger, so I am just looking for some feedback, so I can proceed with the most caution. I don't want to brick my Leo, so I prefer to stay on the safe side, but I willing to push the envelope if needed to gain functionality.
For the record, I am coming from a Symbian background, and I have actually hacked my 60v5 device, so I can learn, but Windows is not comfortable for me. I am a Mac User, but I do have XP installed on my Mac via Bootcamp partition.
All this ROM flashing stuff seems pretty complicated!
I was in the same boat as you are, long time since windows mobile.
first day or two took alot of info in.
best thing to do.
start using it, once you find a problem or desire a feture then come here, and most likely someone had asked for the same thing.
I used the stock TMO hd2 for a couple of days with no problems except when i ported over all my old phones files the lag caused by excessive texts stored under a contact made opening texts or editing details for that contact really slow. I archived all my old text messages using the myphone feature and deleted them from my phone - now no problems. All the other apps and features were excellent, so once I got used to the phone I felt 'ready' to take on some tweaks.
If you need to edit the registry direct to utilise a tweak (in the event of there not being a CAB for it or whatnot) then I used a program called TRE which works like regedit on your pc. just remember all the values given are in decimal unless stated otherwise. From the Leo hints n tips sticky I personally used tips 14, 56, 62, 63 for the camera modes and tips 36, 37, 39, 65, to boost overall performance.
Lastly, if you dont get a youtube app with your phone (probably the case if youre with tmobile) then installing it seperately will currently stop the camera album videos from playing due to file conflicts, tho the youtube app itself will work. A way around this is to use a tweak to fool opera into letting youtubes site recognise you have a flash enabled browser, from this thread and do without the youtube app so you can still play videos in the album view. It all depends on what youre wanting to get out of your phone, and how you plan to use its features. Ive managed to get by without needing to flash to a different rom.
Also 2 apps to work together that I find indespensible is myplayer and coreplayer (though you could get tcpmp or whatever its called as the free alternative to the latter) so I can watch catchup tv.
Hope this helps!
i was like that before as well, but im getting the hang of things now, just installed hspl so hopefully when a newer rom version comes out i will be installin this
Like you I came from Symbian and it is very different!
There are some basic things missing that will annoy you but for the most part it is fine.
Install BSB Tweaks, this program as solved alot of my annoyances.
IMO u should use Xannytech ROM cause at least the free adjustments are all included (BSB too) + it's quite beautiful and I found only one but not very annoying bug.
As explorer I still think the Resco Explorer is the best (with Registry Editor).
I think that's all u need.
I'm in the same boat having come from iphone, I have no idea how it all works. I am trying to get my head around this registry editing at the moment and deciding whether or not to take the plunge :-/
The phone does work out of the box, but coming from an iphone I want to install a few apps/cabs such as converter, ebay etc. The guys on here have been very helpful indeed, although sometimes I need things explaining in numpty terms becasue I don't understand all the tech terms
I am from iphone background however.
many things that we are doing with the cabs and tweaks on this phone are not avalible with the iphone.
for example LED notification
task manager
task switcher.
camera \ video tweaks
player tweaks
etc
NetDwarf said:
IMO u should use Xannytech ROM cause at least the free adjustments are all included (BSB too) + it's quite beautiful and I found only one but not very annoying bug.
As explorer I still think the Resco Explorer is the best (with Registry Editor).
I think that's all u need.
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I have just looked into Resco explorer and there are 2 versions, windows mobile pocket PC, and windows mobile smartphone, which one works for the HD2. Also it's pretty pricey $19.95 I think, are there any free downloads?
Karlos G said:
Like you I came from Symbian and it is very different!
There are some basic things missing that will annoy you but for the most part it is fine.
Install BSB Tweaks, this program as solved alot of my annoyances.
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What exactly is BSB tweaks, and what is the latest version? I've found 1.10 and 1.6 so far
You do have a file explorer there already (very basic) , and a lot of people use total commander. TC is not very finger friendly, but you can edit the look of it in preferences.
I just got my phone last week and this is my first wm phone. I have been spending all my free time searching for apps and tweeks for my hd2 and found that the first thing to do is check out the offical uppdates on htc homepage.
After that i would suggest BsB tweeks and ram sweeper, Chainfire driver patch 1.1, NetC Framework 3.5 Resco explorer/regeditor, coreplayer and opera mini.
Gl hf!
I have just looked into Resco explorer and there are 2 versions, windows mobile pocket PC, and windows mobile smartphone, which one works for the HD2. Also it's pretty pricey $19.95 I think, are there any free downloads?
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You want the pocket pc version.
There are free file explorers (Total Commander) and registry editors (PHMEdit I think is one), do a search on the Leo parent forums for "file explorer" etc. or look on google, alternatively install a custom rom, some of which are bundled with the software
snerkler said:
What exactly is BSB tweaks, and what is the latest version? I've found 1.10 and 1.6 so far
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1.6 is the latest version
BsB Tweaks lets you configure some/most of the stuff in the Leo Hints and Tips forum sticky post without you having to go through the registry to do it yourself. Pretty slick. Also does some stuff that isn't in the sticky.
Can someone please give me a link to the BsB Tweaks?
I had artemis before my HD2, and never head of this page until i got my HD2.
Very easy is to install/upgrade ROM connect active sync, double clik on ROM file and 10 min later a new ROM is installed. I have not tried any of the Custom ROMs from here. Because i Like my Danish ROM.
Some of the Qustions from above can U find here ppcwarez.org Which was help full to me
Forgive me guys..
donalgodon said:
Can someone please give me a link to the BsB Tweaks?
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Here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
Most things relating to the Leo can be found by searching the forum ( sometimes I find that it is quicker to do a Google Seach which then takes me to results within XDA).