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Predictive T9 On Orange (UK)

Hi, I am a new user to
A) this web site
and
B) this Phone. 5 days so far.....
I dont know if my topic heading is quite correct but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
This phone seems to have so many names, anyhow, mine is on Orange here in the UK and called a SPV M3100
Right, only thing that gets on my nerves a bit with this phone is there is no
T9 "predictive text input" like I am and have been used to with Nokia phones for the last 7 or so years.
What I mean is, you all know how you write a text message on a Nokia with predictive texting. using just your thumb etc.
What I am after is, is there some software / program I can download that would make the screen like a keypad within the send SMS program. so it is easier to text.
Because unless I am mssing something. The only way to text on the ORANGE version is either with the slide out keypad, or with the virtual keypad and stylus ???
Thank you for reading this and perhaps you can advice me.

To get T9 with a normal style phone looking interface you can install the PhonePad application which is available here on this site (its linked in the Hermes Wiki):
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Phone Pad - English Only.CAB
You can also use the Block Recognizer, Onscreen Keyboard, Letter Recognizer, Symbol Pad and Transcriber as well as the slide out keyboard on a standard M3100.. In fact I think the options are the same as any Hermes?

IntelliPad (SIP Phone Pad) to another device with HW numeric keyboard.

Hello, I have had Wizard for a long time. Some time ago I purchased new O2 XDA Stealth phone (with slide numeric keyboard). There is the possibility to use the numeric keyboard for writing i.e. SMS's quickly when selected SIP eZiText. But there is a bug in eZiText and the support is terrible. So I decided to try to install IntelliPad from HTC to this device. After soft-reset it works normally (it means tapping by fingers to the screen). But do you thing that there is any possibility to make this to work with my hardware keyboard together as well? Somewhere has to be some buttons mapping, but I am not an advanced programmer and do not where.
Or is there any other SIP which could be usable with O2 XDA Stealth instead of eZiText?

kmozis said:
Hello, I have had Wizard for a long time. Some time ago I purchased new O2 XDA Stealth phone (with slide numeric keyboard). There is the possibility to use the numeric keyboard for writing i.e. SMS's quickly when selected SIP eZiText. But there is a bug in eZiText and the support is terrible. So I decided to try to install IntelliPad from HTC to this device. After soft-reset it works normally (it means tapping by fingers to the screen). But do you thing that there is any possibility to make this to work with my hardware keyboard together as well? Somewhere has to be some buttons mapping, but I am not an advanced programmer and do not where.
Or is there any other SIP which could be usable with O2 XDA Stealth instead of eZiText?
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Please let me know also, I'm having the same issue. Could you let me know where I can find Intellipad from HTC ? Any specific link ?
Thanks

Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1062820&postcount=2
but note that this is only software SIP, that will be shown on the screen and does not cooperate with the hardware keyboard :-(

Texting on the P3600

Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks

Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing

TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.

I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...

Hi
i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?

Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?

Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455

SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
tjw2007 said:
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?

tjw2007 said:
Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.

ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.

Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.

alternative onscreen keyboard

Hi,
does anyone know an alternative onscreen keyboard application (apart from TF3D).
To me it seems the X1 onscreen keyboard is pretty much unusable without the stylus.
Thx in advance,
Sinergy

I use the SPB keyboard, i prefer it to the blackstone keyboard purely on the basis that the blackstone doesn't mess up with the predictive text of my X1.
the SPB has feedback options with vibration/sound, supports many languages and the skin fits nicely with the menus etc

my 2 cents: (copied from the my post at the inxperia forums)
THE FREE:
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HTC Keyboard (from Touch HD)
the free HTC keyboard package also installs a normal phone keyboard.
So it installs:
- QWERTY Compact (two letters per button, for normal use)
- QWERTY Full (like hardware keyboard, for landscape use)
- Phone Keypad (phone keyboard, landscape and normal)
The Compact and Full version switch as you go from landscape to vertical, but you can't use the compact in ladscape and vice versa. So Compact -> rotate screen -> automatically oges to Full QWERTY.
Quite nice actually.
Problems: A bit sluggish within Opera and breaks the volume-zoom keys in Opera.
TouchPal (below) is better:
THE BEST:
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TouchPal:
Installs itself as default on startup (great). Everythings fluid, no bugs so far. Goes away nicely in Opera and after a landscape switch.
I noticed a small, but *very* important detail about TouchPal:
The leftmost (QAZ) and rightmost (PLM) buttons are a bit further away from the edge (so they are easier to hit with the recessed screen!). I tested both Touch HD Blackstone and TouchPal QWERTY. TouchPal has the better buttons, as they are easier to hit.
The TouchPal also has tabs with:
- 3 keyboards (phone, qwerty, qw-er-ty)
- 1 symbol board (which slides to the left and right, customizable)
- 1 number board
- 10 configurable text snippets, multilanguage fT9 input and
- a navigation/cut/copy/paste board, which is really handy.
So my vote is clearly for TouchPal (also looks better). No problems on X1 at all!!!
Problems: No landscape resizing, just black bars on the left and right (I think its okay). The 2on1 buttons (QW-ER-TY) are strange (you can't double tap, it works differently)
tldr;
Get the TouchPal software. It'll change your life!
THE TWEAKERS Keyboard:
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Fingertouch PRO
Completely skinnable and you can make custom layouts (dvorak for example)... Very good, I bought it but now use TouchPal.
Links:
Cootek TouchPal: http://www.cootek.com/
Teksoft Fingertouch PRO: http://www.fingertouchpro.com/
Touch HD Blackstone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439

I'm using SPB too. Much better than stock.

thx
I'll give a try to both of them.

Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA

I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?

mcbyte_it said:
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
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Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.

istnelane said:
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
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Try disabling the animations: Options-> (slide the screen) -> "Disable advanced animations". Maybe it helps.
Honestly I don't know. I had to turn my X1 off every 2 days because of exams I had. But the TouchPal keyboard has so many benefits that I won't mind soft-resetting every once in a while. I mean it's the only QWERTY where I can actually touch the Q/P/A buttons with the recessed screen.
chongbh said:
Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
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Take a look at FingerTouch, they also have a lite (free) version on their site. The video (I time-marked it) with the Phone keyboard is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhBMNr7iS8#t=47s

check out http://shapewriter.com - it's quite good if ur using two hands to type, works fairly well with one hand. Here's a vid of it in action on the Android => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPS2piSSRE
TenGO Thumb pretty good too for one-hand operation, but falls flat on it's face when trying to type in one or two numbers vs HTC Phone Pad.
Cliquick (http://www.cliquick.com) has nice large buttons, layout like HTC Phone Pad but larger, excellent querty landscape keyboard and "optimised" key layout, BUT lacks T9.... which is a pitty because this would've been the best with T9 for one-hand operation.
I tried TouchPal but found learning curve too steep. Plus it's too difficult to use with one hand, which I need to do so when standing in a bus.
EDIT: Have been thinking about FingerTouch, BUT needs two hands to type fast, so that's a bummer. I'd prefer ShapeWriter over it.

I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.

Fingertouch has 5 keyboard layouts provided. At least 2 of them allow one-handed typing and pretty fast. It has its own T9 and also word completion.
I'm using Fingertouch Pro and allow further customisation, but unlike Fingertouch (which is free), the Pro version is paid software.

clumsythief said:
I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
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Crzy! <--- my Touch HD keyboard "forgets" characters too..

change WM keyboard layout ?

I have a ww english version of the Touch 3G
The HTC software keyboard (called "Full QWERTY") nicely follows regional settings, and hence displays the AZERTY layout matching my language
The WM OS software keyboard (called "Keyboard") keeps defaulting to QWERTY...
But here comes the trick: I have an "old" bluetooth foldable keyboard (was working fine with my QTEK S100), that I am trying to use with my Touch 3G; the layout of this hardware keyboard is AZERTY.
2 options, 2 problems:
option #1: use the latest drivers available for the keyboard (which is no longer supported by the manufacturer); unfortunately,the drivers apparently don't like wm 6.1 and cause crashes in the services.exe module.
option #2 : have the keyboard recognized by wm 6.1 as standard HID BT device ("Think Outside Keyboard"): that works, despite some functionality loss I can live with, but the keyboard layout is wrong, b/c the device OS is ww english, and hence the layout is QWERTY, regardless of the regional settings....Apparently, this follows the logic of the WM OS software keyboard, not the HTC soft keyboard...
Question: in order to make option #2 work: I would need to tweak the OS to use the AZERTY keyboard layout instead of the default QWERTY... any way to accomplish that ?

try this
hi
try below link it is finger keyboard and it supports all languages and real nice one
hope it solves ur problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3395347&postcount=1

Great, I'll have a look at it
Do you think it will allow to change the layout mismatch of my HARDWARE keyboard ?

haree said:
hi
try below link it is finger keyboard and it supports all languages and real nice one
hope it solves ur problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3395347&postcount=1
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Can you advice which version of FingerKeyb 2.1 work perfect in HTC Touch 3g (Jade).
Although, Jade already have Full Qwert keypad, which is quite comfortable, but it gets deformatted once I manually change the orientation to Landscape (using QuickMenu).
So, basically I'm looking for a keypad similiar or better than Full Qwerty Keypad to use in Landscape orientation.
Thanks in advance!!

meet_bijoy said:
Can you advice which version of FingerKeyb 2.1 work perfect in HTC Touch 3g (Jade).
Although, Jade already have Full Qwert keypad, which is quite comfortable, but it gets deformatted once I manually change the orientation to Landscape (using QuickMenu).
So, basically I'm looking for a keypad similiar or better than Full Qwerty Keypad to use in Landscape orientation.
Thanks in advance!!
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You can try this one:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/
The landscape-mode is very good, IMO, but you have to buy it after a free trial-time.

MvBoe said:
You can try this one:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/
The landscape-mode is very good, IMO, but you have to buy it after a free trial-time.
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Ya, I heard about Spb Keyboard is good, but as of now not willing to pay. Looking for some nice Keyboard utility for Free.

hi, actually, can we turn t3g into lanscape mode during msg?or does it need another software to support it?