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New ROM - Battery Indicator vs Clock dilema

As it seems, M$ introduced a mod into new WM5.0 ROMs, so that a Battery Indicator is displayed at title bar instead of the tradicional clock.
It is also possible to configure the device to display the time/clock in all applications, but it doesn't happen while in Today screen.
In opposition to what happened with previous OS builds.
A Reg hack allowed and still allows to change the 'time', to 'date' or 'time&date'.
However with some combinations now, the icons overlap each other into the Title Bar...
Nobody seems to be happy with this new "feature", and likes to live with the alternative of having the time/clock displayed into a Today plug-in.
Also it seems no one succeded to hack and get rid of this. Any ideas?
It is in fact a very annoying indicator!!!
Who wants a Battery Indicator that means just one of three things: 'battery full'; 'battery half full' (or half empty); 'battery empty'...
And look bellow, how strange it could get...
Two battery indicators at the Title Bar (both from M$), and with different lookings...

lol
That's pretty funny, 2 battery meters in the taskbar, with no third party tool to do so? :>
I just wonder who came up with this stroke of genius... was it really Microsoft, or was it HTC, or was it iMate/Qtek (haven't seen any other branded ones yet..)?
Having the Time in the Today Item is one thing... it's a shame it takes up 2 lines, but I guess some people can live with that. Others, like me, think that's pretty messed up and would prefer a better solution ($100 is still available for the person to create said solution - search around the forums for the bounty thread).
But to automatically remove the clock from the expected location is just horrible ergonomics. Imagine having that in real life... you have a watch on your wrist, and wherever you are, you look at your wrist because you expect your watch with the time to be there. Now you get to the office, and there's one of those cheapo round wallclocks on the wall. You look at your wrist to check the time: hey, wtf - your watch is gone! But as soon as you step outside the door *ploink* your watch is back on your wrist. Ooookay.
The battery meter is an entirely different issue altogether. It's almost the lamest and least informative meter ever*, it takes up an icon in the task bar, and I guess it actually disappears when you switch to an app? What's the point? Battery meters like "Batti" are where it's at - MS/whoever should take a page out of their book and learn.
( * the lamest are actually those which are onlu applications. Start an application to check the battery level? double-you tee triple-ef. No offense to those who coded one )

And you thought that was funny!? Look at this!!! OMG LOL!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!! OMG 3 Battery indicators!!! LMAO!!!!!
M$ ARE STUPID AS ****

lol
how'd you end up with -that- happening ?
You sure that extra bar that's obscuring your today items isn't a third party thing? I suppose it might be that tray_icons.exe (wrong name, technically - as it's the taskbar, not the tray) ?

ZeBoxx said:
lol
how'd you end up with -that- happening ?
You sure that extra bar that's obscuring your today items isn't a third party thing? I suppose it might be that tray_icons.exe (wrong name, technically - as it's the taskbar, not the tray) ?
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LOL...
This bar pops-up when you have more than one notification in queue to acknowledge, and you tap ballon at Title Bar.
In fact it is the combination of the two images I posted, with the events queued
Great work M$...
Waitting for the day we can get rid of the battery icon on the Title Bar.

[>_<]
I hope Qtek's ROM makers end up reading all these complaints about the iMate one (and their own earlier test one) and fixes it before they release theirs. I know a lot of people are anxious for push e-mail (and then go asking how to disable it because it runs up their bills.. *chuckle*) and A2DP (not included in iMate) and overall improvements, but this is one non-improvement I'll stick to an older ROM for

You are really right. it is a sh***.
Always they come with these fantastic ideas. i don't know nobody of the developpers saw all complains about the device in all forums discussing the good and the negative points.
i hope one will come with a batch correcting these mess.

FWIW the recently released Orange ROM does this too. It is very annoying indeed.
Has anyone discovered a way to disable this useless battery indicator on the Title Bar?

It would have been nicer too if they at least made the date, day, and time pug-in as one line, and not the date and day taking 2 lines.

wisbar advance 2 makes the time stay when on the today screen,
when i can i'll post a pic but i have
wisbar advance 2 + vga skin
pocket breeze, contact breeze, pocket weather and ilauncher all setup to use only the 1 today item,
clock stays all the time
and im pleased with the speed, its still just as fast even at rotating

more accurately.. last time I checked.. wisbar advance places its own clock there %)
Not quite the same, and means you do have to install another app which permanently takes over your task bar, etc. - which isn't all bad, wisbar advance is pretty sweet. still, I didn't find any particular need for it.. so if the battery meter can just be removed, that'd be preferable %)

I must be the only one who thinks this is quite useful then! But it assumes that you have the clock plugin on the Today screen, and don't like to waste space on an extra battery plugin.
However, it would be nice to have the option. If no one comes up with a reg hack, it might be possible to hack the system to force it show only the clock I guess.
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Carnivor said:
wisbar advance 2 makes the time stay when on the today screen,
when i can i'll post a pic but i have
wisbar advance 2 + vga skin
pocket breeze, contact breeze, pocket weather and ilauncher all setup to use only the 1 today item,
clock stays all the time
and im pleased with the speed, its still just as fast even at rotating
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How much memory does Wisbar take? Can we install this to the SD card or better yet, the Ext ROM?

You might want to check out the recently released WisBar lite. No skinning engine built in for faster operation. I've never tried it though.
V

vijay555 said:
I must be the only one who thinks this is quite useful then!
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*gasp*
et tu, vijay?
vijay555 said:
But it assumes that you have the clock plugin on the Today screen
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mistake #1
vijay555 said:
and don't like to waste space on an extra battery plugin
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mistake #2.1. In my case icon wastes more space than 2px high indicator line. *pats Batti*.
mistake #2.2. Assumes that you don't already -have- a battery indicator. /me points at the dozens of battery indicators out there. Say yours of choice is a taskbar icon as well. Except it's cooler (more features.. whatever). Now you have two - but you can't get rid of the built-in one. Yay!
vijay555 said:
However, it would be nice to have the option.
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mistake #3
vijay555 said:
If no one comes up with a reg hack, it might be possible to hack the system to force it show only the clock I guess.
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request #1 as soon as this ROM popped up - get rid of the da*n battery icon
request #2 and restore the clock %)
I do suppose it's some silly registry thing, or just a file that you need to remove, or if need be some file that you need to hack about.

vijay555 said:
You might want to check out the recently released WisBar lite. No skinning engine built in for faster operation. I've never tried it though.
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I just checked out Wisbar Lite http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Lite as you and Carnivor mentioned, it does take care of the time issue on the today screen. I am afraid to try it though, for I am running Small Menu and Magic Button at the same time, their combination is absolutely perfect in the Universal.

Me too - I use smallmenu with VJOkButt. I wouldn't use Wisbar just to replace the clock.
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have the same problem, defies the whole purpose of having the date/time if it overlaps.
no way around it?

I just upgraded the ROM on my JAMin and its the same, battery meter on the top right hand corner in place of the clock.

Have we found a solution to this battery icon problem yet? I've not been able to find one.
Cheers,
Steve.

Move Battery Meter

I'd like to move the battery icon from the tray next to the time so I can remove the tray altogether. Any registry hacks/programs anybody can recommend?

Only AKU 2.x Roms allow a built-in battery meter on the top bar but they don't allow both the time and battery meter.
AKU 2.0 only allow the Battery Meter (no time on the today screen) but the battery meter is then gone when you are in an application.
AKU 2.2+ Roms allow you to choose between time or battery meter but again this is only on the today screen.
If you don't mind installing a 3rd party app, just search using "Battery Meter" and you'll find many to choose from. Spend a little time reading the threads and downloading a few to find the one that best fits your needs.
To remove the meter from the bottom, search for "Remove System Tray".

Just wondering what others on this forum used. Thanks.

Not to be "un-helpful" (new word I think) but the best thing you can do is search as I've suggested. You will find many discussions that give a lot if info on the ups and downs of the different applicatios which offer battery meters.
FYI, the Rom you listed is a 2.2 which does allow the battery meter to be placed up there but not with the time.

I use batti which puts a battery line at the top of the screen - it is pretty popular amongst forum users (or a variant of it) as it takes very little today screen space.
My favorite verson attached

thanks meschle for the link. i like this program already.

Uknown Clock has appeared

E guys, another one for the experts :-D
I've been trying to solve this since yesterday.
(Refer to pics)
The red arrow is pointing to an unknown digital clock. I'm suppose to see the battery icon there, and I would like to have my battery ICON back please smiley hehehe.
When you click on the digital clock you get that second screen with the balloon message.
(Please refer to pics below)
Ive seen no configuration to bring back that HTC battery meter. There is although another battery meter with pocket plus, but I want to use the original one because clicking on it takes you to the WM battery ap whilst the pocket plus one does nothing sad
Last applications installed that I think mite have caused it?
- SPB Pocket Plus
- Pocket Infromant
But I cant find the settings on either of the two.

im not sure how to disable it but it looks like pocket informant.

How did you get that there? I want to disable HTC home and put that there but there's no option to! =( Lucky.

Go to the clock settings, on the last tab there is an option for this.

I dont know how it got there, it just suddenly appeared :-(
@****er: Clock settings didnt work for me, it wasnt even selected :-(

if it isnt what ****er suggested then you must have advanced config installed, its under the today section top item, show on title bar, battery or clock

muzikfreakah said:
E guys, another one for the experts :-D
I've been trying to solve this since yesterday.
(Refer to pics)
The red arrow is pointing to an unknown digital clock. I'm suppose to see the battery icon there, and I would like to have my battery ICON back please smiley hehehe.
When you click on the digital clock you get that second screen with the balloon message.
(Please refer to pics below)
Ive seen no configuration to bring back that HTC battery meter. There is although another battery meter with pocket plus, but I want to use the original one because clicking on it takes you to the WM battery ap whilst the pocket plus one does nothing sad
Last applications installed that I think mite have caused it?
- SPB Pocket Plus
- Pocket Infromant
But I cant find the settings on either of the two.
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I like your wallpaper could you post it for me?
Ed...

got it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386133&page=2

Like mentioned before on clocks & alarms on settings System tab. on More tab uncheck the display clock option and it should remove it.

muzikfreakah said:
I dont know how it got there, it just suddenly appeared :-(
@****er: Clock settings didnt work for me, it wasnt even selected :-(
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we have the same problem, it happens after i enabled clock display on the bar in all programs

Install Schap's advanced config:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360587
Open it and navigate inside it to:
Today > Show on title bar: Clock/Battery

bettery % on manila 2d

Can some one tell me if we can have battery % on manila 2d.
Thx.

Do you use quickmenu? If you use quickmenu you can play around with the settings to get it back. It will be in the middle of the taskbar, but it will be back. If you can't figure it out let me know. Many people have overlooked the setting.

thx a lot.
Quickmenu work fine and I can see my battery %.

sdlopez83 said:
Do you use quickmenu? If you use quickmenu you can play around with the settings to get it back. It will be in the middle of the taskbar, but it will be back. If you can't figure it out let me know. Many people have overlooked the setting.
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I tried this setting in QuickMenu. It did work to see percentages, BUT because it sits over the voice/text/email notifications, it stops them from being marked as read. (The yellow light keeps blinking.)
If anyone knows how to get around this, I'm all ears.

I use ariel battery its freeware, i got it from this forum so do a search

VistaHide Battery Gauge
Hi,
in the past I took WKTask to have a battery bar on top of the screen.
But this application has a task manager additionally on board - wasted memory.
So now I'm using VistaHide Battery Gauge. Same bar like WKTask but only 1kB memory usage. Great tool.
AF

I use QuickMenu and VistaHide Battery Gauge. The only thing I miss with TF2D is the ability to see how much memory I have left, so I'll know when it's time to reboot.

basic

hi, just few basics please...
how do you know when the battery is fully charged ??
probably really dumb but i didn't really figured it ou exept going in the battery section of WM
thanks

The LEDs will stop flashing (if you had them enabled whilst charging)

ok thanks, and one last crappy question,
do you think that to have the ''self controlin brightness'' of the screen enabled is slowin down the system speed ?
what are (if they exist) the best cache values in xperia tweaker ?
thanks

"do you think that to have the ''self controlin brightness'' of the screen enabled is slowin down the system speed ?"
doubt it
i dont even believe it require actions from the os at all it could be don in hardware
and if it does use the system it's not rocket science equations it have to calc

bill'o said:
hi, just few basics please...
how do you know when the battery is fully charged ??
probably really dumb but i didn't really figured it ou exept going in the battery section of WM
thanks
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The obvious way is checking Start-->Settings-->System-->Power. (but you probably know that already, and anyway, it's a mission )
I use homeplusplus (or home++), which has a today screen plugin which gives you lots of indicators (including battery percentage (100% is fully charged)).
Search for the cab (if not in the sticky in this forum) on the Kaiser forum or Rapheal forum, and the best part is it's free.
When you install it, it has two icons on the Today screen (bottom) by default. Click and hold to get the options, and in there include extra rows as well as task bar icons. 10 points to the developer of that software.
A potentially better way of seeing battery percentage is to install SPB mobile Shell, which also has a today screen row (with useful icons and menus alongside the battery status on the main screen). But you got to pay for that.. spbsoftwarehouse.com.
The light sensor polls by default every 200 milliseconds (if I'm not mistaken), as already said - the system load for the polling is negligible.
BUT if you are worried, then there is an option in Start-->Settings-->Power-->Lighting-->Auto Adjust Backlight which you can tick off.
Doubt you will notice any performance gain by doing that.
Good luck!
Cheers