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Connect Universal directly to 80GB Mobile Hard Drive?

Is there any way to connect the Universal Directly to a mobile hard drive?.
to be more precise, to this one:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10669

Not Directly NO. The Universal does not have the USB Host hardware required to attach this kind of thing.

Take a look at this...
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2002_10/pr0902.htm
Forget wires
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interesting...
but anyways there could be a kind of "piece of hardware" bewtween HD and Universal that makes the USB host function.. or maybe I am a bit lost..

gooroo said:
Take a look at this...
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2002_10/pr0902.htm
Forget wires
Regards
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Universal has WIFI so youd be better off just mapping a network drive or something rather than using bluetooth which is very slow.
jimcl said:
interesting...
but anyways there could be a kind of "piece of hardware" bewtween HD and Universal that makes the USB host function.. or maybe I am a bit lost..
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That would be a PC Its certainly possible that somebody could make a card for the SDIO slot that would support USB Hosting but I am not aware of one.

Better wait for cheaper 4 gigabytes sd cards

Hi jimcl,
You have the same idea as me! I was thinking of hooking up my external 60GB HDD to my Exec using just a normal camera USB cable. As you have thought, it didn't work. Wouldn't it be great if things just works the way we wanna them to be?
I assume that if it works, the battery on your Exec will dry up very quickly as the HDD draws its power from it.
Anyway, if you find anything that allows you to do that, please post it out here and share it with everyone!
Cheers!
Regards,
Johnnie

Wifi would be much better, and is already available, but they are not designed for mobile use, mains supply required.
SDIO to USB is, I think is in the pipeline, but prehaps a better solution would be SDIO to Wired Ethernet, more likely to find this for PDA's with no Wifi, and USB/Ethernet hard drives are available now. Although ethernet drives still require mains supply but USB ones would suck power to quick from the host
I think we will see host controllers as standard in future PDAs.
I know the 5Gb is not particulary good on the Toshiba device, but I doubt it will be long before the capacity increases.
I must admit, SD/MMC cards are a better way to go and I think 8gb is in the pipeline now and prices will drop over time.

of course I'll share the solution... in case I find it!
I more or less agree with all your comments... but sometimes we just want to work with the things we have, ... I already have a mobile hard drive. That's all.
Apart from 4GB SD cards - and future 8GB - maybe we could find a solution in the WIFI way, but anyways 8GB SD card sounds great - maybe not its price..

If your looking for a solution for home or car try the asus WL-HDD wireless access point / hard drive
I picked one up off ebay for 50ukp with a 60 gig drive in it,
Also lets you copy stuff from other usb devices to the hard drive (without a pc) or share other usb devices over the wireless (with new firmware from asus).
http://reviews.cnet.com/Asus_WL_HDD_2_5/4505-3382_7-31080278-2.html?tag=nav
Power wise it needs 5v @ 2 amps
Being linux based there is also some hacked firmware that will let you use other usb devices or turn it into a webserver and other things..
http://wl500g.info/
currently selling in the uk without drive for around 36ukp (scan)

RE
Yes, you can connect the Universal to the hard disk directly WITHOUT going through a router/access point using Wi-Drive, here:-
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
Spoken to the developer 2 days back and was told that it'll be ready this coming August. It'll be released with a 30GB hard disk as this will be more affordable to the public. If you need higher capacity hard disk you'll need to install it yourself.

Presentation using a HTC TyTN?

Guys
Has anyone been able to connect HTC to a projector and give a presentation e.g. present a powerpoint deck?
- JoKer

I haven't tried this, but you might need a screen scaler like NYDITOT Virtual Display...

goestoeleven said:
I haven't tried this, but you might need a screen scaler like NYDITOT Virtual Display...
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You da man!! Seems like an awesome software .. However, what kind of cable you would need .. because HTC TyTN is only mini-USB but the projector would need a monitor cable ..

Best guess on the cable at this stage: "Google is your Friend...." :wink:

Ok that google is your friend, but do you know what is the cable. Because here whe are talking about a output image to other device, this is possible using a cable, wich one. I know that is some new projectors that have a bluetooth connection and one sd connector (too expensive) that do this. But i havent head nothing about cable connection.

medicor said:
Ok that google is your friend, but do you know what is the cable. Because here whe are talking about a output image to other device, this is possible using a cable, wich one. I know that is some new projectors that have a bluetooth connection and one sd connector (too expensive) that do this. But i havent head nothing about cable connection.
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Basically, a mini-USB to VGA converter. Also, "NYDITOT Virtual Display" is for connecting to an external display but what's the point of the software really without a cable?

Sorry bud, but I haven't seen any external mini-USB adapters to date.
Frankly, I think you're much better off presenting off of a laptop, but that's my opinion.
I found this old article; maybe it will help point you in the right direction:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tips/margi_presenter.htm
The company they refer to nolonger makes hardware...

Sorry bud, but I haven't seen any external video / mini-USB adapters to date.
Frankly, I think you're much better off presenting off of a laptop, but that's my opinion.
I found this old article; maybe it will help point you in the right direction:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tips/margi_presenter.htm
The company they refer to nolonger makes hardware...
I found this one, which requires a miniSD (also won't work on the TyTN):
http://www.conduits.com/company_news.asp?pr20060822.html
I'm afraid you're probably ahead of the market in your requirements...

ok follow the condius news and know the sdv product
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http://www.spectec.com.tw/en/sdv-840.htm
not a microsd!
wonder our hermes microsd slot is a sdio slot?

I could be wrong but I don't think MicroSD slots are SDIO... The slot is too small and the cards too flimsy to support any time of external dongle.

yes i think so!
but it could be wrong
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=139433&tab=1
hope it is a sdio

vua777 said:
yes i think so!
but it could be wrong
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=139433&tab=1
hope it is a sdio
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Awesome vua777. Nice find. Can't wait fot it to get released. Then I wouldnt need my laptop anymore.
[edit] WTF .. "The Video-To-Go micro SD Card allows Pocket PC users with micro SD (TransFlash) slots to connect their digital projectors or other displays to the PDA (micro SD to SD adaptor also included in the box). Please note: This product does not convert the screen’s image into a VGA video signal." .. what does that mean?
goestoeleven said:
I'm afraid you're probably ahead of the market in your requirements...
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goestoeleven... Thanks for the compliment. 8) People like me define the future of the technology with their twisted needs .. :twisted:

Well I'm glad somebody is going to be producing one of these... I do hope it's sturdy enough to get through a couple presentations, too!
Best of luck!
PS. I think my initial comment still applies -- you're going to need a screen scaler to work with this device (otherwise, your presentation will be 320x240 resolution!)
PPS. I haven't found any information that says the MicroSD slot is SDIO compatible (and I have no way of testing)... I hope it is though!

Pocket Controller is your solution.. works when connects any PPC to the PC using USB-Activesync...
Sorry for the time to reply...
Nyditot works in you TyTn? i need a Hard Reset every time I tried to change the resolution...

What you can do is buy a usb to vga converter, then buy a cable to can convert the usb to mini usb and your all set. Then you just need the software for the resolution.

Marcello7x said:
What you can do is buy a usb to vga converter, then buy a cable to can convert the usb to mini usb and your all set. Then you just need the software for the resolution.
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You're kidding, right?

This this:
http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv842.htm
I saw them at CES and they have lots of SDIO products. They were using the a prototype when I was there. It was Micro SD but I did not recognize the phone. It definitely not a states phone.
It worked well though.

Ever heard about that?
Yesterday I received my ShowMate (http://www.impatica.com/showmate/). It is a bluetooth/vga adapter. So far it is working pretty good, but didn't had enough time for hardcore-testing.
But you have to know that you need a software on your pc to convert your ppt's. And you also need a software to project (and resize) your converted presentations.
There is also another bluetooth adapter
http://www.infrablue.co.uk/index.php?a=irmabluetooth
I think, you also need software to convert your presentations for this adapter.
Impatica is currently working on a solution to show your hole ppc-screen as you can only show the presentations with the current releases.

[DFT]LEO USB Host for WM65

DFT LEO USBH WM65
Introduction
this project was started long time ago, but then, during luck of free time for this project, it was suspended.
Now, because it seems very hard to improve it more, we make decision to release developed stuffs. Also more interesting projects now appear
About release
This release contains drivers designed to allow connect different USB devices to HTC LEO (HTC HD2)
Those drivers designed for Windows Mobile 6.5 OS and they were successfully tested on 3.14 ROM. Other ROMs are not tested.
For using USB host ability you need use special cable or self-powered USB hub.
More information can be found here
This release supports HID and MassStorage profiles.
You can connect UsB Mouse, USB Keyboard, USB Stick, USB Hard Disk.
Of course, you need enough external power for devices.
Please remember, this is some kind of demonstration,
this implementation sometimes isn't stable and you can have issues during usage.
PLEASE MAKE DATA BACKUP BEFORE INSTALLING!
Installation:
1. Install CotullaCert.cab
2. Install DFT_LEO_USBH_WM65.CAB.
3. Reset.
Usage:
1. Programs -> USBH Switch
2. Disconnect from PC.
3. Press "Switch to Host" button.
4. Connect host device.
5. After some time it should be detected.
6. You can try to use it.
7. After usage you need reset your device to go back USB client mode.
NOTE: It's not recommended to connect device to PC during USB Host mode active!
Disclaimer:
This product is free to use at your own risk. We take no
responsibility for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by
this unlocking procedure. No warranties, implied or otherwise, are given if you agree to use this product.
No problems were found while testing this product on several different devices, your experience may vary.
Use of the Product for commercial purposes is strictly prohibited and to prohibit the use by xda.cn Forum.
USBH Switch program:
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How it can looks in the real :
on picture you see a USB hub (without external power), a self made Y cable, LEO1024, USB mouse, USB Memory Stick and a bunch of cables.
I can see data on USB stick inside file explorer and can control device by mouse (cursor invisible by default). White cable go to USB male which used as VBUS 5V source.
18.08.2011
DFT, Cotulla

nice , good job Bro

Wow, impressive work! I don't use the HD2 anymore, but it's bloody great to see some real good dev work being done on it, especially for WM6.5!

is that mean i can browes my flash memory from my HD2 ?!!

Class, able to use a mouse on the HD2 brilliant! Keep up the good work

Hi Cotulla!! you finally made it!
I´m your early "beta tester" from Argentina, we chatted via msn some months ago. Sadly I don´t have the HD2 anymore to try this again. I have an DHD now and there are some people trying to develop this same thing for the DHD.
Congrats!:

Cotulla, please port this to Android. I don't have an HD2 anymore, I upgraded to the Sensation, and i would LOVE to see this on there!

Thanks for not forgotten Windows Mobile 6.5. I am so grateful to see some continue development on this.
A great project, thanks for our big Bro... 謝謝老大。

Great work Mate....
I will flash win6.5 again just to check this....

I might move back to Windows!! Thanks for the great work Cotulla!

Brillant !
I try it with a mouse, it"s fine.
And this evening, I'll try with a 1 Tera mass storage.
A HD2 with 1 To : Where are all the challengers from any brand ?

done a little 5 euro donation (i'm a student and i'm very poor...but i appreciate your hard work!!!)
GO GO GO Cotulla, we hope in a USB Host in Android too, a new MAGLDR, and a Mango 7720 build for our HD2

Thank you for your hard work! What software do I need to connect a mouse? I don't see cursor. USB HDD and keyboard works fine.
For me - USB Stick conflicts with microSD card. If I remove it and reboot, USB Stick works. Else USB Stick not detected.

Wow, the awesomeness of this is too awesome to describe. Very good work Cotulla! I wish I had a HD2 now

Very good work. Congratulations.

The linux of wince htc kernel has had USB host support for a long time now. You don't need to revert to WM6.5
Aim for OP is to do that on Winmo.

Cotulla is king
Thanks for developing. Do you have plan start usb host on android ?

It is only for HD2 or will this work too on Acer Neotouch S200?

Any one tried to connect gamepads? Il try if i get one from my friend. Is gamepad.hid working with leo?
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Man you're a genius!

USB OTG to our GT540

Hello !
i have one question to developers...
do we have usb host /otg compiled in any of our kernels?
seems that p500 users managed to get it eventually work
thread about that
if not, can anybody compile them.
i'm ready to test kernels and so... (i'll make otg and y-cable in few days)
cheers
EDIT: ok, i cutted original lg cable, and it seemed that it already have otg enabled (pin4 and 5 are connected)
so i made y cable to provide external power, but nothing happened.. no new inputs in dmesg and apps from market also didnt make it mount. (tried with 2 diffirent usb sticks , external hdd, usb mouse...)
maybe there is something with kernel ?!? can anybody compile new kernel where is otg drivers inside , so i can test them out.
drivers what p500 users used is zte blade -s .. (bcoz it haz same cpu msm7227) (http://sven.killig.de/android/Blade/usb_host/)

Its the hardware, the USB devices like a memory stick needs power to work so the device needs external power to power to the USB device to be order to work.
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if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)

hani93 said:
if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)
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Yes, you would have to include drivers in the kernel to make it work, like with any hardware. I don't think any of kernels available for our devices have OTG drivers, so you or someone else should compile kernel with these drivers included but that doesn't necessarily means that everything will work.
Wingrime's kernel is open source
https://github.com/wingrime/android_kernel_swift

hani93 said:
if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)
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let me see if i understand we need to "cook" the OTG support in some Kernel and then add the drivers to the room so they work and with the original cable we are good to go?

LtDementhial said:
let me see if i understand we need to "cook" the OTG support in some Kernel and then add the drivers to the room so they work and with the original cable we are good to go?
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should be good, but needs testing.
i try to compile kernel with drivers in few day's.. but i have limited time right here.. i'll post results if i get something..

What about the external power though?, the LG GT540 does not have such hardware.
Unless we can get a external powered OTA USB cable, we can probably do such thing
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andyabc said:
What about the external power though?, the LG GT540 does not have such hardware.
Unless we can get a external powered OTA USB cable, we can probably do such thing
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you can buy them if you find (Y-splitter cable).
but i made my own.
it just needs power (5v)
eg. from pc usb port.
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hani93 said:
you can buy them if you find (Y-splitter cable).
but i made my own.
it just needs power (5v)
eg. from pc usb port.
something like that :
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I remember a user on YouTube called 'Blunty3000' uploaded a video over 5 months ago i assume about how to play on emulators with the nexus 7 and he had some USB cable with a power cord to use on the N7.
You don't have to use a PC USB Port, i have a HTC USB charger, you can use the USB charger for power
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andyabc said:
I remember a user on YouTube called 'Blunty3000' uploaded a video over 5 months ago i assume about how to play on emulators with the nexus 7 and he had some USB cable with a power cord to use on the N7.
You don't have to use a PC USB Port, i have a HTC USB charger, you can use the USB charger for power
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This is good idea

USB Host support

It pains me to do this, as I was hoping B&N will step forward and release an OTG/USB Host cable. The hardware is certainly all there.
But alas, they are sitting on their hands again, so I have no other choice but use this software override kludge again.
All for the better most probably, as I suspect when they do release, it'll cost some outrageous amount of money, just like what happened to the HDMI adapter.
If you want to try it yourself.

good job verygreen.
whats the chances of getting this to work on the nook hd?

shue2701 said:
good job verygreen.
whats the chances of getting this to work on the nook hd?
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It should work on the HD. And since verygreen has his github up, bokbokan can see how he did it. So you need to ask bokbokan to do it in his HD thread.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

Wouldn't there be voltage draw threshold issues using the long cable as a usb host, especially for flash drives? Not even mentioning a usb hard drive, since obviously no way.

rushless said:
Wouldn't there be voltage draw threshold issues using the long cable as a usb host, especially for flash drives? Not even mentioning a usb hard drive, since obviously no way.
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I have not met any issues so far daisychaining two cables together (nook one and then into another one for the unpowered hub), but obviously don't go all crazy with 100m cable runs

verygreen said:
It pains me to do this, as I was hoping B&N will step forward and release an OTG/USB Host cable. The hardware is certainly all there.
But alas, they are sitting on their hands again, so I have no other choice but use this software override kludge again.
All for the better most probably, as I suspect when they do release, it'll cost some outrageous amount of money, just like what happened to the HDMI adapter.
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What is the software override kludge you're referring to?
-- Never mind, I just noticed the link at the bottom of the original post.

any chance you can make a flashable zip for stock?

dlinfiniti said:
any chance you can make a flashable zip for stock?
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That's too much hassle for questionable gains.

>Wouldn't there be voltage draw threshold issues using the long cable as a usb host, especially for flash drives? Not even mentioning a usb hard drive, since obviously no way.
After reading around, one can use a battery pack with pass-thru USB function to connect high-powered devices like a USB HDD. Continuing this line of thought, it should be feasible to connect said battery inline to an unpowered USB hub, and convert said hub to powered. Am practicing some Google-fu to find a decent pass-through USB battery now.

e.mote said:
After reading around, one can use a battery pack with pass-thru USB function to connect high-powered devices like a USB HDD. Continuing this line of thought, it should be feasible to connect said battery inline to an unpowered USB hub, and convert said hub to powered. Am practicing some Google-fu to find a decent pass-through USB battery now.
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there are tons of battery-powered hubs for mobile devices, which seems to be a neater solution than combining a usb hub with a battery.

>there are tons of battery-powered hubs for mobile devices, which seems to be a neater solution than combining a usb hub with a battery.
Would you mind providing some quick links, or whatever search keywords you used? Mine turned up zip:
http://google.com/search?q=battery+powered+hubs

e.mote said:
>there are tons of battery-powered hubs for mobile devices, which seems to be a neater solution than combining a usb hub with a battery.
Would you mind providing some quick links, or whatever search keywords you used? Mine turned up zip:
http://google.com/search?q=battery+powered+hubs
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Try "battery powered usb hub"

I was hoping you have some actual models in mind. Your key terms resolve to the same blank wall. There are plenty of "battery hubs" shown, but AFAICT all of them are AC-powered hubs that can charge battery-powered devices. The need for a portable (battery) powered hub isn't new, and I've searched for it before. I was thinking of DIY, but a hub + inline passthru battery pack looks to be the least hassle at this point. Again, would appreciate any more integrated solution you know of.

Welp nothing that some window shopping can't cure, as me sis would say.
Anker Astro3 10Ah charger, max output [email protected] $40
http://amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Incredible-cellphone-connectors-customized/dp/B009USAJCC
Anker USB 3.0 4-Port Hub, input [email protected] $20
http://amazon.com/Anker®-Uspeed-Adapter-Compatible-Windows/dp/B007BWTOHU
Use barrel tip and connect charger output to hub DC input. If tip doesn't fit, get charger w/ more tips.
http://amazon.com/Anker-10000mAh-Multi-Voltage-Camcoders-Recorders/dp/B005NGKR54
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Probably best to try in store.

e.mote said:
I was hoping you have some actual models in mind. Your key terms resolve to the same blank wall. There are plenty of "battery hubs" shown, but AFAICT all of them are AC-powered hubs that can charge battery-powered devices. The need for a portable (battery) powered hub isn't new, and I've searched for it before. I was thinking of DIY, but a hub + inline passthru battery pack looks to be the least hassle at this point. Again, would appreciate any more integrated solution you know of.
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Well, the very first link on that google search is to this amazon item: http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-Mobile-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
which is eaxactly a usb hub with AA batteries. Granted, it's no longer available for sale, but there are more of those, I saw them when I last looked a couple of years ago so I know there must be more.

That seems a lot of power draw to be practical, unless a chunky hub to last very long.

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That seems a lot of power draw to be practical, unless a chunky hub to last very long.
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Did you measure it? Does not seem too bad in my testing.

Just my looking at the draw having two things hooked up. If you are using one usb drive and no other devices, it should last several hours. Better than taking the load via the tablet battery. Sharing the drain love is good.

so the gender changer usb host thing only works with cm10.1 and not on stock?

baberswallet said:
so the gender changer usb host thing only works with cm10.1 and not on stock?
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This is correct.
For stock you need to have this special cable that B&N never made available (but certainly had plans for).
Shoehorning a new kernel into stock is too much of a hassle too.
But if you are an enterprising individual, you can trace the id pin on the pcb to see where does that connect in the connector and make your own otg cables, resell for huge amounts of money and profit