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Android 2.0 & Camera drivers

Hi, the one and only thing keeping me from updating to Android 2.0 is that I won't be able to use my Camera. I've seen a lot of rom builders note that these will work as soon as the drivers are provided by HTC.
But what are the odds that HTC is actually going to provide these drivers? From what I've read there is no indication of HTC preparing an Android 2.0 update for the Magic or Dream devices.
Is there really any hope for us?
I think I'll probably give in and get a Nexus One once it's out, unless we get our update (and even then it's tempting).

ive seen a 2.0 rom with cam working... for mytouch/32b/g1 go look at some hero/2.0 roms in Dream dev sectiion

32b, damn.. would those drivers work on 32a as well?

most likely since the camera in 32B/A is the same. the rom itself probably wont work on 32A tho

So if there is a working driver on 2.0, why aren't there any 32A roms supporting it? There's like 5 of them and they all lack camera support..

Naatan said:
So if there is a working driver on 2.0, why aren't there any 32A roms supporting it? There's like 5 of them and they all lack camera support..
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No roms have cam support for any device, dont listen to the lies.
The mytouch/G1 will recieve up to 2.6 update from Tmo in the Us, which means custom roms will be made that can work on 32A.

Awesome! Thanks for the info.. I hope they will release a 2.0 version sooner rather than later then

what? im not lying...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
this is the one with camera working. i turned on camera app and it worked. if u dont beleive me try it for urself hater.

melterx12 said:
what? Im not lying...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
this is the one with camera working. I turned on camera app and it worked. If u dont beleive me try it for urself hater.
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hahahahahahaahahhahahahhahaha

melterx12 said:
what? im not lying...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
this is the one with camera working. i turned on camera app and it worked. if u dont beleive me try it for urself hater.
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Noob
this is a Hero Dump and not Eclair ROFL
SelfOWNED!

naatan said:
But what are the odds that HTC is actually going to provide these drivers? From what I've read there is no indication of HTC preparing an Android 2.0 update for the Magic or Dream devices.
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The HTC Magic has only been out for 6 months, why do you think HTC would abandon it already? There is every reason to think they will contine updating it for at least another 6 months, if not longer ... they have kept updating the G1 for 18 months, sometimes they are just a bit slow at getting the updates out there. Just be patient people ... they are probably putting out 2.1 rather than getting 2.0 out of the door ... just my 2 cents anyway

what? it looks like a hero rom to me -.- whats the difference

melterx12 said:
what? it looks like a hero rom to me -.- whats the difference
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People are talking about Android 2.0 here but the ROM you linked to is a "classic" Hero ROM running on Android 1.5. There aren't any 2.0 ROM with working camera yet.

melterx12 said:
what? it looks like a hero rom to me -.- whats the difference
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Hero is just a HTC device which a lot of ROMs use content from, it has nothing to do with the Android version the ROM runs on.
There's HERO roms based on Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1..

I really don't understand. Isn't there a full set of tools for decompiling android binary files. Why hasn't the camera driver been decompiled and recompiled for 2.0. What is the hold up. There is a whole group of people doing this and developing the tools for it. I thought this was going to be fix in like 1 day. And we still have no camera. Wake up people.

ok u dont need to laugh and be rude to me jerks.

Ace42 said:
No roms have cam support for any device, dont listen to the lies.
The mytouch/G1 will recieve up to 2.6 update from Tmo in the Us, which means custom roms will be made that can work on 32A.
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can you provide a link that supports this information?

ooo man i laughed so hard. i havent seen sflpwned in for ever lol!! its ok to be a noob. Ya 2.0 or what everyone is trying to work with now is 2.1 is not just another hero rom or ne thing. its like upgrading from 1.5 cupcake to 1.6 dognut. Dont mean to laugh bro just had to. I am super noob friendly here.

Which 2.XX Rom is the best so far? What are you using?

im currently running AOSP 1.6 rom with gbhil custom kernal with setcpu, I really wanna switch to a newer ROM im reading alot about.
1. flipz n toast 2.1 v1.8-7
2. darchstar Cyanogen (like) 2.0.1
3. darchstar AOSP 2.1
which seems to be the best ROM with the most features and close to everything working correctly?
What is everyone using?

BAttitude7689 said:
im currently running AOSP 1.6 rom with gbhil custom kernal with setcpu, I really wanna switch to a newer ROM im reading alot about.
1. flipz n toast 2.1 v1.8-7
2. darchstar Cyanogen (like) 2.0.1
3. darchstar AOSP 2.1
which seems to be the best ROM with the most features and close to everything working correctly?
What is everyone using?
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Still using fresh 1.1 Rom, going to try darchstar's AOSP 2.1 today. I will post when finished and let you know how it goes.

i won't use any 2.1 rom until the official comes out.

Now that multi touch and open gl is out thanks to toast, the sense 2.1 build has everything but the camara , mms receive at least for me it isnt working, and vvm
But I like the cyogen like 2.0.1 build a lot

I'm having problems in all of 'em. I like the live wallpapers, market, and maps of the AOSP 2.1, but there are quite a few bugs of things working then not working, then crashing, then working a little.
The Sense 2.1 is kinda nice, but no paid apps in the market and no live wallpapers.
I like the browser in AOSP more than the sense browser.
I haven't tried the 2.0 yet.
I don't think any of 'em are ready for prime-time. They're need, but all have critical issues.

official 2.1 is coming out soon, so I don't see much motivation to go for a custom 2.1 ROM.

Using darchstar's 2.1 right now and it is really fast!! The camera not to big of a deal(not working), But other than that should really give it a test try!!

ro_bro said:
official 2.1 is coming out soon, so I don't see much motivation to go for a custom 2.1 ROM.
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The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.

I'm using *LOOK IN SIG* right now. works great!

kel_o91 said:
The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.
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Really? I thought it was 1H2010 and then 2Q2010, which is practically the same damn thing....

Darkshneider said:
Really? I thought it was 1H2010 and then 2Q2010, which is practically the same damn thing....
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Aye, he's wrong, it's 2Q. I think I heard that sprint said it should be out next month.

kel_o91 said:
The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.
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nah, it was officially set at 2Q2010, which should be not too far off.
I agree with others, despite the massive amounts of work going into getting the kernels and roms working correctly, I will wait untill the official 2.1 as well...

wow either no one else here is trying Darchstar's 2.1 or 2.01 or im just lucky. I think his 2.1 is the best rom out, and I am including all the 1.5 and 1.6 roms in argument. Its my everyday rom, and I am a HEAVY user.

No camera = deal breaker for some.

no mms.. deal breaker.. But I use Sprint PIcture messaging website to get the missing pictures.. lol... and so I still use Darch's 2.1

the main purpose of the eclair i dev for is actually hopes of getting all hardware working in eclair with a .27 kernel. with that being said once sprint releases a 2.1 build for us we will be able to use a custom kernel in it. allowing for mods that extend beyond the build itself. the gsm hero devs know about this advantage as the .29 kernel they have runs slower then their .27 kernel in the builds. ive actually been passing my work on to lox as we fix things. trying to get them closer to a fully working 2.x build with .27 kernel under the hood also. all the 2.x builds will be buggy until we get atleast one official one to nab apps from and such. im thinking of the future right now. when sprint releases a rom and everyones pissed about source again. plus what we learn now will help us all later. i cant say one build is better then another. i guess its if u like sinse or aosp. or want this but not that. to me im just glad we are as far as we are. think about this... the dream guys dont even have opengl (as dream devs have come already looking to use our work) in their 2.x builds and the camera is half baked. also multitouch is a app hack. we have all but camera supported in a little .27 kernel and weve only had source for a few months. most said we wouldntve gotten this far in such little time. but we proved them all wrong.

I have been happy with every rom that I've found on this forum.
Gumbo 1.5c was the first I tried, and it was great. Some minor lag issues, but everything worked.
Now using toast + flips 2.1, and it's amazing. I miss my camera, but I'm not going to complain about it, because having multi touch and the consistency of how the phone runs is whats doing it for me. Thank god, I don't have to wait until Sprint releases one!

No offense to toast or anyone working on the 2.1 Sense ROM, but I tried it, and for me, it just didn't feel right. It was somehwat fast, but it did have moments of lag. Also, I didn't like all of the HTC stuff that came with it. I flashed darchstar's 2.1 AOSP, and WOW. It hit the spot. It's snappy because of the AOSP, and it has nothing "junky" in it. All I've done is flashed the HTC keyboard to it, and now it's wonderful Snappy, 2.1, AOSP, it's great. I don't really care about the live wallpapers, althought the Duck Hunt one was pretty nice.

tyrnight said:
no mms.. deal breaker.. But I use Sprint PIcture messaging website to get the missing pictures.. lol... and so I still use Darch's 2.1
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Can we access picture mail from our phone browser and how do you know when you get a new message?

I'd like to throw it out there that after removing HtcCopyright.apk from darchstar's 2.1 AOSP, I've gotten rid of a lot, if not all, lag from the ROM. The speed also got ridiculously faster.

so whats next for our hero's?

are we waiting on the official 2.1 to be released to get more fully functioning roms?
do you guys see more apps and themes being made for our cdma heros in the near future?
id love one day to see as many options on the cdma versions as they have for gsm.
any thoughts or input on this guys? what would you like to see?
maybe even the possibility of porting webos or maybe even winmo to our phones? i don't see why not as winmo can port android. it's not on the top of my list but it would be cool to play with.

Dude. You start a lot of threads man lol. But yeah, Android 1.5 was made for GSM, and HTC had to do some crazy wackjob stuff to make it work for CDMA. Android 1.6 started including CDMA support, and Android will continue to support CDMA from 1.6 on out. So basically, once 2.1 comes out officially, I believe we will be in business. You should just chill out a little bit about the whole being bored and what's gonna happen stuff, and just enjoy your device. The HERO is a great phone, and it's only gonna get better!

Leukay said:
Dude. You start a lot of threads man lol. But yeah, Android 1.5 was made for GSM, and HTC had to do some crazy wackjob stuff to make it work for CDMA. Android 1.6 started including CDMA support, and Android will continue to support CDMA from 1.6 on out. So basically, once 2.1 comes out officially, I believe we will be in business. You should just chill out a little bit about the whole being bored and what's gonna happen stuff, and just enjoy your device. The HERO is a great phone, and it's only gonna get better!
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yeah but i like to discuss, hence why we are on a forum.

Haha.. Yeah think it would be kinda cool to have WinMo on our phones, too; although I doubt I would use it for more than a day or two. Our Devs are seriously working hard getting the DEV-ROMs working and they're doing a ****ing great job. I can't wait to see what comes after the official update!!!

So... this might be a stupid question, but exactly what are we looking to see in the 2.1? I don't have any problems with my phone now, a little laggy and short battery life but I plan to get a new battery on payday. So, what is so great that people are actually talking about unrooting to go to the Official 2.1? I wouldn't unroot for anything they could possibly put in there. What if I'm at a friends and need internet and he doesn't have any? I gotta be able to tether. i can always use PDAnet, but its just not the same. And no longer being able to control the CPU, etc. And I love flashing all the new roms that come out and experimenting with the awesome stuff the Devs crank out, so really what is gonna be so awesome about 2.1?

i actually saw a guy on here with a pic of his hero with winmob 7 on his hero...don't know if it was legit or not, but nice to see

ko0pa11 said:
i actually saw a guy on here with a pic of his hero with winmob 7 on his hero...don't know if it was legit or not, but nice to see
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i debunked that this morning. it was a photoshop job. wm7 cannot run on any current device out there let alone an android phone.

smh @ that guy tricking people
still would be pretty cool to see it ported over

lol that was me.. not meant to trick.... but to... inspire...? yeah.
and again.... NO PHOTOSHOP WAS USED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sirstanley said:
So... this might be a stupid question, but exactly what are we looking to see in the 2.1? I don't have any problems with my phone now, a little laggy and short battery life but I plan to get a new battery on payday. So, what is so great that people are actually talking about unrooting to go to the Official 2.1? I wouldn't unroot for anything they could possibly put in there. What if I'm at a friends and need internet and he doesn't have any? I gotta be able to tether. i can always use PDAnet, but its just not the same. And no longer being able to control the CPU, etc. And I love flashing all the new roms that come out and experimenting with the awesome stuff the Devs crank out, so really what is gonna be so awesome about 2.1?
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Because when Sprint releases 2.1, then our devs will be able to take all the amazing-ness from 2.1 and combine it with the amazing-ness of having root access! Until then, we're just using hacks and leaks to get what we can get.

Gregalous said:
Because when Sprint releases 2.1, then our devs will be able to take all the amazing-ness from 2.1 and combine it with the amazing-ness of having root access! Until then, we're just using hacks and leaks to get what we can get.
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And we'll have the actual kernel instead of stuff with backported drivers.

well to me 2.1 was the holy grail until today.
The Dream rom has Flash 10.1, so its my new holy grail.

Oh, I agree totally that it will be awesome when the devs get their hands on all the 2.1 stuff, but what about the people talking about unrooting for the official upgrade? I guess what I'm really asking is...what amazing-ness? What are we waiting for? Will the phone make us breakfast in the morning and grab beer for us once we get 2.1? I'm in here every day like the rest, checking for updates on 2.1 status and waiting impatiently for the release, but again I ask..what am I waiting for? More speed? Less bloatware? Bug fixes? I'm just curious, I know that going from 1.29 to 1.56 fixed the massive lag when going from portrait to landscape and the original MMS issue, etc. But I really didn't notcie a diff in my phone after the upgrade. Seriously, what are we looking for in this new update?

sirstanley said:
Will the phone make us breakfast in the morning and grab beer for us once we get 2.1?
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I'm down for that one

mrinehart93 said:
And we'll have the actual kernel instead of stuff with backported drivers.
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Official .29 kernel or not. I bet once camera is backported most devs will use the modded .27 kernel to optimise their builds until .29 source is released. The main things we will get from the official release is the frameworks, a few and apks to allow for all of Sprints stuff to work. And I've almost managed that already but yeah other advantages of 2.1 are vwp, better frameworks, better opengl, better apps, UIs, and a better os all together. I know ill make sure the build is ready for all the root users on day one. If its not already leaked by then.

let's hope for a HERO200 leak then!
come on single unruly mischevious HTC employee....if you do this, then we promise we won't bother you like we did to get the source code..

So guess what, we aren't gonna get AOSP Gingerbread(says the 2.3 AOSP guy)

So the guy who's dumping the AOSP from the Nexus S said "There is no AOSP support any longer for ADP1 ("dream") and ADP2 ("sapphire")." You can read it yourself here http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/298a46f6eaab8c39 I don't know if it's true so please tell me if it's not and please don't flame me if it's not. I guess I'm gonna get a G2 now. What do yall think?

Never say never lol, Someone will find a way

Heard the same awhile ago with Eclair and Froyo.

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I'm gonna get a G2 now
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XxKOLOHExX said:
Never say never lol, Someone will find a way
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And this.
cesarbric said:
Heard the same awhile ago with Eclair and Froyo
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RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEE
Just kidding

The Dream can barely handle FroYo, I don't know how well it would handle Gingerbread.
Does anyone actually have their G1 running quickly on a FroYo ROM? CM is pretty damn slow.

Deathwish238 said:
The Dream can barely handle FroYo, I don't know how well it would handle Gingerbread.
Does anyone actually have their G1 running quickly on a FroYo ROM? CM is pretty damn slow.
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yes, CM itself can be set up right for once, then are the OTA roms who are with less things...so they run quite good and ofc the AOSP froyo roms.

What setup is needed for CM to be fast? I don't need any features, just speed. If there's a better FroYo ROM for that I'm open to switching.
Gingerbread on the Dream will happen...I have no doubt about that. The question is how well it'll run. If only the Dream had a little more RAM...

Come on man when have we "never" been able to get an update? Im gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say we will still be getting roms for at least another 2 years!

bonesy said:
Come on man when have we "never" been able to get an update? Im gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say we will still be getting roms for at least another 2 years!
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I don't know about that, because I'm pretty sure Honeycomb or whatever they decide to call Android 3.0 has a minimum requirement for 1GHz processor so the Hero, Sapphire and Dream might be out of luck, especially the Hero because they're still stuck with the 2.6.29 kernel. 3.0 might be possible but I doubt 2 yrs of new Android ROMs is plausible.

AOSP gingerbread running on my Dream..
So seems mostly a go.. will require some poking for a true release but not that bad.

If it's not officially supported in AOSP, does that mean we'll be without camera drivers?

ezterry said:
AOSP gingerbread running on my Dream..
So seems mostly a go.. will require some poking for a true release but not that bad.
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This is so great!
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Deathwish238 said:
What setup is needed for CM to be fast? I don't need any features, just speed. If there's a better FroYo ROM for that I'm open to switching.
Gingerbread on the Dream will happen...I have no doubt about that. The question is how well it'll run. If only the Dream had a little more RAM...
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check out the 2708 radio+kernels. By switching to the new radios released for the mytouch + kernel with support, you gain back an extra chunk of ram for os use. Definitely helps out froyo builds

AdrianK said:
If it's not officially supported in AOSP, does that mean we'll be without camera drivers?
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camera (with the minimal poking to get it to compile) is working
No release because many bits of this are easy to fix
> wifi works
> camera works
> hw3d I think is working .. but lanuncher/3d gallery/keyboard are running a bit slow .. and we know the port to 2.2 of launcher/keyboard run fine
> bluetooth no-go but that is just because I'm using a sapphire firmware (easy to swap)
> gsensor no go.. I think this will be a relatively easy thing to correct. API change confused it.
Taking a break from testing while I make a repo to work from

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I don't know about that, because I'm pretty sure Honeycomb or whatever they decide to call Android 3.0 has a minimum requirement for 1GHz processor so the Hero, Sapphire and Dream might be out of luck, especially the Hero because they're still stuck with the 2.6.29 kernel. 3.0 might be possible but I doubt 2 yrs of new Android ROMs is plausible.
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Honeycomb (Android 3.0 or 2.4....who knows) will not require a 1Ghz CPU.

Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?

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Honeycomb (Android 3.0 or 2.4....who knows) will not require a 1Ghz CPU.
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Alright I shall take your word for it.
protomanez said:
Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?
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People just want to have the newest, and humans like pushing limits (in this case of the G1).

Jurai said:
check out the 2708 radio+kernels. By switching to the new radios released for the mytouch + kernel with support, you gain back an extra chunk of ram for os use. Definitely helps out froyo builds
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Not only that, look at ezterry's mt3g port of froyo. 2708 radio/kernel + mt3g = hot fastness. Loaded it on two G1s, the gf loves how much faster it is than the other froyo roms we've tried. Probably has to do with the fact ezterry's port is nearly completely stock (it is without the parts update).

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Still don't understand why you people want gingerbread so much. The time it takes to get something that was never intended to even be ran on the G1 was at least a year or so and that was only with eclair and froyo. We can't run a lot of things because of the lack of ram like jit. Everything lacks now, even the gpu.
Please stop with all this silly nonsense about Gingerbread threads and just be patient. I have little faith in the project, as most original devs have completely moved onto different devices which are easier. Not saying the new devs are bad, I'm just saying we lost a lot of veteran support on the G1.
Why not just use something fast on your G1 that won't fry it's sockets after 5 hours of use?
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(keep hitting thnks buttn by mistake on every post xD)
Anyway I think 2.3 will be too much for the G1/MT3G to handle, it already struggles with 2.2 so 2.3 is over doing it. Battery will not be very good, as most phones with 2.2 now have 512+ ram as the standard. To get the best experience you'll need faster hw to support the effects,apps,etc...2.1 is the furthest i would go w/ a g1, but 1.6 is where the best perf is. I would go with a new phone if you wanna enjoy 2.3.
p.s. not trying to discourage anyone, just stating facts

DesireHD 2.3 leak!!!

Can we do something with this?
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/1429008812011329111555836/

Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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mrbracht said:
Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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yeah and if not we have that sense 3.0 leak to look forward to lol

definatly just spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to download the RUU from that chinese upload site... no dice... any direct link to DL you can PM me im interested i wanna see if i can get this running

still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.

r2DoesInc said:
still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.
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this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android

Zarboz said:
this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android
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nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.

r2DoesInc said:
nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.
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Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out

r2DoesInc said:
i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out
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nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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my bad
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i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
obviously not from this dump as it is 2.3

Zarboz said:
i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
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it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.

r2DoesInc said:
it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.
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just tried to do a quick n dirty hack n slash port... bootloop... man this new android versions is something im gunna need to read about

Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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miketoasty said:
Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.

can anyone tell me how to download this friggin dump..... i dont understand chinese... ive tried everything on that darn site...

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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.
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Well that's why we have you
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I will look at porting this also. I wonder if I can hack something together like I did with miui.