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Hi,
I am planning to buy Touch 3G or Touch Diamond. (Still confused)
However, can anyone tell me which one of these will work with US carriers 3G services.
The specs mention
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900
So, general latching on to US GSM networks and using Edge is not a problem, I know. However, not sure about 3G.
Whatever reading I have done shows that the 3G network is as per European standard. So I am sure I should be able to use 3G in Europe/Asia.
Can some gurus help me with this.
Appreciate your help
Anup
I have ATT, and no, the Touch 3G does not work because it is missing the 3G band used by ATT. I only get Edge in places where my old P3600 would get 3G.
araje said:
3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900
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Does this mean that this device will work at least for voice/SMS in Japan (which only has WCDMA 2100, no conventional GSM at all)?
Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps
JohnHere999 said:
Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps
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Try changing your band settings to WCDMA then 850+1900. Works great for my Touch HD T8285.
almost there - thanks
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?
JohnHere999 said:
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?
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Not sure on your phone but on mine go to settings, then phone, then band settings.
no band settings there either
Not that easy. I get phone, then settings, then the options are general, voice call, video call and message.
General sub folders are: call cost; caller id; own number; fixed dialing; auto answer; closed user group
Voice Call sub folders are: call barring, call forwarding, call waiting
Video Call - n/a
Message sub folders are call broadcast message, wap push message, voice mail, send text message options
I tried looking at the connections menu which yields:
My Internet - add a new modem; edit my proxy server; manage existing connections.
Manage existing allows you to change from media net or other connections and when you do that there are no options for changing band. Also if you try to create a new connection there is still no mention of band.
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I am not sure if your phone has 850mhz, as far as I Know the omnia 2 i8000 has 900/1900/2100 compatibility and maybe that is why you are getting so weak signal,
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2
Not true AT ALL!
rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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Chicago might primarily be 1900mhz but Dallas (my home) and probably where the original poster is located is 850mhz so the i8000L from Bell would be a better choice and probably for everyone else so you could never be limited to 1900mhz.
CAL0613 said:
This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2
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I loved the Omnia 2 but the lack of Roms and not having xda support (not such much anymore now i guess) made me sell it and go back to my Rogers Magic. I'll probably wait for the HTC Obsession or maybe the HTC Bravo as my next phone i definitely wanna check out Windows 7 when it comes out.
technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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can you post your network settings?
I've had pretty good reception in the NYC area on 3G for the past 6 months... until today. Now my phone can get 3G and 3g+ reception but I can't get any data over 3G anymore. When I step down to EDGE, I can get data again. iPhone users seem to be fine. Anyone else having these problems in the NYC area?
Hi guys.
I got a highly noobish and probably stupid question about my Nexus One.
Using the *#*#4636#*#* / phone information / network type: EDGE.
My wife's wildfire shows HSDPA and we ure under the same operator.
So, its a phone problem? It doesnt support HSDPA? If so, how to change that?
I understand there are 2 versions of Nexus One, how to figure out which one I have?
Thanks in advance!
There are 2 versions of the Nexus 1 that are out. One that works with tmobile 3g and one that works with at&t 3g. If you use the tmobile version with at&t you will only be able to get EDGE.
How long have you had your N1? Did you buy it new or used? Who is your provider?
krazichinaman said:
There are 2 versions of the Nexus 1 that are out. One that works with tmobile 3g and one that works with at&t 3g. If you use the tmobile version with at&t you will only be able to get EDGE.
How long have you had your N1? Did you buy it new or used? Who is your provider?
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Thank you for your answer. Really fast.
I live in Colombia, South America. My provider is movistar.
I have the nexus about 6 months ago. Rooted. Running CM nightlies.
What do you say about the result on *#*#4636#*#*??
Thanks again.
movistar uses 2100mhz for hsdpa in colombia correct? Both the wildfire and nexus one should support 2100mhz no matter what version you have, so you should be able to get it on both phones if it's available. The only reason maybe you wouldn't is that you have the "Use only 2G networks" option enabled?
Something else, in the data icon of the notification bar does it say the same thing as it does on the phone information screen, or do they both indicate edge?
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movistar uses 2100mhz for hsdpa in colombia correct? Both the wildfire and nexus one should support 2100mhz no matter what version you have, so you should be able to get it on both phones if it's available. The only reason maybe you wouldn't is that you have the "Use only 2G networks" option enabled?
Something else, in the data icon of the notification bar does it say the same thing as it does on the phone information screen, or do they both indicate edge?
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2G Networks only unchecked.
Indicate Edge in notification bar and in phone information (4636).
Is there a way to change or fix this thing out?
Thank you.
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2G Networks only unchecked.
Indicate Edge in notification bar and in phone information (4636).
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This is true on both phones? But it is only the wildfire that says hsdpa in phone information?
In phone information, scroll down a bit to the drop down box of network types above "Turn off radio". What is this setting?
greenlime812 said:
This is true on both phones? But it is only the wildfire that says hsdpa in phone information?
In phone information, scroll down a bit to the drop down box of network types above "Turn off radio". What is this setting?
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Wildfire: WCDMA preferred.
Nexus: WCDMA preferred.
Set both to GSM only. After a minute, if the wildfire still says hsdpa then it is likely a firmware issue where the connection information is permanately set to "hsdpa" or it doesn't update as it should. Have you traveled into an hsdpa service area recently?
Do you think changing the radio band may work? I didnt see any checked right now... in any of the phones...
greenlime812 said:
Set both to GSM only. After a minute, if the wildfire still says hsdpa then it is likely a firmware issue where the connection information is permanately set to "hsdpa" or it doesn't update as it should. Have you traveled into an hsdpa service area recently?
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After a while the wildfire was unable to coneect via data connection when I put GSM only.
When changing to GSM only, the nexus keeps showing E.
The radio band should auto-adjust based on what is available. I don't know that you can specify a certain radio band in android.
The wildfire has "E" in the notification bar at all times, correct?
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The radio band should auto-adjust based on what is available. I don't know that you can specify a certain radio band in android.
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I mean, where you can choose Automatic, EURO band, USA band, JAPAN band, AUS band, AUS2 band...
greenlime812 said:
The radio band should auto-adjust based on what is available. I don't know that you can specify a certain radio band in android.
The wildfire has "E" in the notification bar at all times, correct?
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No, the wildfire has H, the Nexus E.
movistar does not use the same bands for gsm and hsdpa anyway, this is a strange issue but I suspect it is simply a firmware issue
Edit: Maybe what I read was wrong. Do you know for sure what your provider uses for hsdpa in your area?
One version of the nexus one uses 850/1900/2100 and the other uses 900/1700/2100 for hsdpa, while the wildfire uses 900/2100. But they both have 850/900/1800/1900 for gsm. I didn't think 900mhz was used in South America?
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movistar does not use the same bands for gsm and hsdpa anyway, this is a strange issue but I suspect it is simply a firmware issue
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But in the meantime, Im only getting edge having hsdpa available.
What can I do to fix this?
greenlime812 said:
movistar does not use the same bands for gsm and hsdpa anyway, this is a strange issue but I suspect it is simply a firmware issue
Edit: Maybe what I read was wrong. Do you know for sure what your provider uses for hsdpa in your area?
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Let me ask first. If the phone shows H not necessarily theres HDSPA? Is what you mean?
They claim to offer 3.5g. Edge is 3g? Hsdpa is 3.5g?
The only thing I can think of is that your provider is using 900mhz for hsdpa and you have the wrong version of the nexus so you will not be able to use that band. Or, you have gsm 900 available and not hsdpa at all and the wildfire is interpreting gsm as hsdpa. Download a speedtest app and see if the connection speed on the two phones is actually any different.
greenlime812 said:
movistar does not use the same bands for gsm and hsdpa anyway, this is a strange issue but I suspect it is simply a firmware issue
Edit: Maybe what I read was wrong. Do you know for sure what your provider uses for hsdpa in your area?
One version of the nexus one uses 850/1900/2100 and the other uses 900/1700/2100 for hsdpa, while the wildfire uses 900/2100. But they both have 850/900/1800/1900 for gsm. I didn't think 900mhz was used in South America?
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How can I know?
I know, the other carrier claims hsdpa, COMCEL is the name of the operator.
But if my phone is configured to EDGE, what can I do then?
I'm sorry this issue is so confusing. I read conflicting information about what bands Movistar is using for gsm and hsdpa in your country. The operator name in the notification bar is Movistar, correct? If it is, the wildfire can not be using COMCEL.
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I'm sorry this issue is so confusing. I read conflicting information about what bands Movistar is using for gsm and hsdpa in your country. The operator name in the notification bar is Movistar, correct? If it is, the wildfire can not be using COMCEL.
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Yes. Movistar. But actually comcel haves better network and services here, so Im trhing to find out ic I can improve my browsing experience in terms of speed...
Hello everyone, im from mexico, i just bought a DVP from T-Mobile, i think is unlocked cause when inserted my sim card from "Telcel" i can make calls, send/receive sms, etc, always have "E" letter besides signal metter, however i would like to use "3G" network, as i found on this forum seems to "E" means edge, and T-mobile is not compatible with telcel 3g, is this correct? just want to confirm this and i want to know if ATT version is compatible to 3G from telcel, thanks in advance, BR
As far as I know Telcel uses the 850 band for 3G. The T-Mobile version uses 900/1700/2100 and hence wont support the Telcel 3G. The ATT version has the 850/900/2100 band and hence theoretically should support the Telcel 3G. It is advisable that you confirm with someone in your area if the ATT version works, because as per specifications it should work. The TMobile wont work as it does not support the 850 band
Thank you
Thanks, very clear and direct, also quick answer, so if i understand correctly its kinda hardware diference, right? so no way to convert or configure an aws to pcs or backwards.. thank you!
xpmymob said:
As far as I know Telcel uses the 850 band for 3G. The T-Mobile version uses 900/1700/2100 and hence wont support the Telcel 3G. The ATT version has the 850/900/2100 band and hence theoretically should support the Telcel 3G. It is advisable that you confirm with someone in your area if the ATT version works, because as per specifications it should work. The TMobile wont work as it does not support the 850 band
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ejbt said:
Thanks, very clear and direct, also quick answer, so if i understand correctly its kinda hardware diference, right? so no way to convert or configure an aws to pcs or backwards.. thank you!
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It's not possible, at least on phones. Each specific submodel likely has different amps for whatever bands that submodel supports. They're (very likely) physically different.
Just bought a galaxy note n7000.. when I poped in my sim card it does now work..
I am with mobilicity they use AWS, with bands 1700/2100
http://mobilicity.ca/
Is there anything I can do? Other than beat the hell out of my brother who told me it will work?
Preaak said:
Just bought a galaxy note n7000.. when I poped in my sim card it does now work..
I am with mobilicity they use AWS, with bands 1700/2100
http://mobilicity.ca/
Is there anything I can do? Other than beat the hell out of my brother who told me it will work?
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beat away... now it will work but on edge... there is a thread on trying to create a radio to work for tmobile which is the same as yours... now they have got the i717 version(usa att) to work but not the 7000... give these guys time they always come through... but until then its edge only....
ps you may find someone with a i717 wanting a 7000 and might trade....
Frequency used by Galaxy note :
Also known as Samsung GT-N7000, Samsung I9220
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)
Since your service provider uses 1700 and 2100, then it should work.. just activate your 3G network in your wireless settings.
Good luck
kawgirlval69 said:
beat away... now it will work but on edge... there is a thread on trying to create a radio to work for tmobile which is the same as yours... now they have got the i717 version(usa att) to work but not the 7000... give these guys time they always come through... but until then its edge only....
ps you may find someone with a i717 wanting a 7000 and might trade....
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I am gonna beat that kid... dam it!!
can you link me to this thread... are they close or this a dream?
Sorry for my ignorance but by radio you mean making and receiving calls?
sagaff said:
Frequency used by Galaxy note :
Also known as Samsung GT-N7000, Samsung I9220
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)
Since your service provider uses 1700 and 2100, then it should work.. just activate your 3G network in your wireless settings.
Good luck
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you sound like my brother... how do I do this?
i just want to make and receive calls I can live without internet for now!
Preaak said:
i just want to make and receive calls I can live without internet for now!
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I am just trying to help here. I hope it will work
Try
Setting -> Wireless and network -> Mobile networks -> Network mode
choose automode... If it doesn't work then go ahead.. beat the kid.
Preaak said:
i just want to make and receive calls I can live without internet for now!
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ok...the 1700/2100 is correct but like tmous they use the 1700 as the data so activating 3g is going to do nothing.... there is a 1700 freq in the chip, but it is locked hence the need for the custom radio.... btw that thread is in the general forum... as for making phone calls, well if it is unlocked it should make them just fine...
is it telling you something when you power it on? does it have signal strength?.... need a bit more info....
sagaff said:
I am just trying to help here. I hope it will work
Try
Setting -> Wireless and network -> Mobile networks -> Network mode
choose automode... If it doesn't work then go ahead.. beat the kid.
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Thanks... do you know if it should be on GSM.. wdma.. or both?
sorry btw it has been a bad day... I feel a cold comming on too... beating the kid is gonna feel good...
kawgirlval69 said:
ok...the 1700/2100 is correct but like tmous they use the 1700 as the data so activating 3g is going to do nothing.... there is a 1700 freq in the chip, but it is locked hence the need for the custom radio.... btw that thread is in the general forum... as for making phone calls, well if it is unlocked it should make them just fine...
is it telling you something when you power it on? does it have signal strength?.... need a bit more info....
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I get signal but it says... mobile network not available when I try to make a call... the notification bar says "emergency calls only"
Good thing because after I beat that kid he can call for help...
Preaak said:
I get signal but it says... mobile network not available when I try to make a call... the notification bar says "emergency calls only"
Good thing because after I beat that kid he can call for help...
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Normal GSM Functions (Calls/SMS) should work on 100%
There is something wrong with either the phone or your SIM Card/Provider
Call Customer support and explain your problem and be sure to tell them that the problem is Calls/SMS and you are aware that 3G will/may not work!
Maybe they are blocking the international Notes for some reason?!
It never hurts to ask them!
You will NOT get 3G to work if your carrier uses 1700mhz for AWS. Tmobile and as far as I know Wind use 1700 AND 2100 for 3G data. Having just one band (in this case, 2100, will not cut it). In any event, you should still get 2G data and be able to call/text.
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You will NOT get 3G to work if your carrier uses 1700mhz for AWS. Tmobile and as far as I know Wind use 1700 AND 2100 for 3G data. Having just one band (in this case, 2100, will not cut it). In any event, you should still get 2G data and be able to call/text.
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is there anything I can do to get this to work other thank popping my sim card in?
OrionBG said:
Normal GSM Functions (Calls/SMS) should work on 100%
There is something wrong with either the phone or your SIM Card/Provider
Call Customer support and explain your problem and be sure to tell them that the problem is Calls/SMS and you are aware that 3G will/may not work!
Maybe they are blocking the international Notes for some reason?!
It never hurts to ask them!
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how can test if this is problem with the phone?
I tried another sim card form rogers wireless and it works right away.
my sim card has "no service" then after 5 mins the icon changes for a stop sign with a live through it to actual bars.. the no service changes into emergency calls only.
Preaak said:
I tried another sim card form rogers wireless and it works right away.
my sim card has "no service" then after 5 mins the icon changes for a stop sign with a live through it to actual bars.. the no service changes into emergency calls only.
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OK. Then your phone is OK. Call Mobilicity customer support and explain everything! Tell them that the phone works with Rogers SIM and not with yours!